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From: Antony C. <an...@sm...> - 2005-06-15 14:50:30
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Sorry folks I am still catching up on my email... The templates (updated interface) are ready for merging. Am I right in=20= thinking that I do this after the other updates? Do we have a current=20 list of progress on cvs merges? Antony On 14 Jun 2005, at 13:00, Colin Tatham wrote: > > Adam sed: > >>> So what's happening about getting the UHI templates into SF and then >>> distributing instructions on how to internationalise and >> then doing the >>> edits? This task was supposed to run from 21 may - 7 june so we are >>> already >>> a week overdue and we haven't seen any templates yet! > > Alistair replied: > >> I sent a message to the list on 26/5 saying 1i8n was ready >> and including >> instructions on how to localise a template: >> http://www.weblogs.uhi.ac.uk/sm00ay/?p=3D90 > > > ... and I think that looks great! > > > The bit Adam was asking about is what state the templates are in that=20= > have > your improved user interface changes (e.g. collapsible help text,=20 > 'manage' > link, etc). We need to get those changes before we start updating=20 > others. > > A related issue is how committed we feel to the XML templates as they=20= > are? > We all seem to find them too verbose -- maybe we could simplify them > slightly. Matthew suggested adding support for the <building> tags in=20= > the > new templates, which could save a lot of work. > > Colin > > > ____________________________________ > Colin Tatham > VLE Team > Oxford University Computing Services > www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/ > www.bodington.org > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: bod...@li... >> [mailto:bod...@li...]On Behalf Of >> Alistair Young >> Sent: 13 June 2005 15:12 >> To: bod...@li... >> Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] attn Alistair and sean >> >> >> Adam, >> I sent a message to the list on 26/5 saying 1i8n was ready >> and including >> instructions on how to localise a template: >> http://www.weblogs.uhi.ac.uk/sm00ay/?p=3D90 >> not sure what the plan is to get the new templates into sf - perhaps >> someone may know? >> Alistair >> >> >> -- >> Alistair Young >> Senior Software Engineer >> UHI@Sabhal M=F2r Ostaig >> Isle of Skye >> Scotland >> >>> So what's happening about getting the UHI templates into SF and then >>> distributing instructions on how to internationalise and >> then doing the >>> edits? This task was supposed to run from 21 may - 7 june so we are >>> already >>> a week overdue and we haven't seen any templates yet! >>> >>> We're going to have institutional commitments soon which >> will prevent us >>> from helping out with the internationalisation. >>> >>> adam >>> >>> -- >>> Adam Marshall: OUCS, 13, Banbury Rd. Oxford OX2 6NN. >>> Shameless plug: Use the Bodington VLE http://bodington.org >>> Blog: http://ramble.oucs.ox.ac.uk/blog/adamm/ >>> Cheese of the month: Cheshire (not to be underestimated) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------- >>> This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How >> far can you >>> shotput >>> a projector? How fast can you ride your desk chair down the >> office luge >>> track? >>> If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. >>> Play to win an NEC 61" plasma display: http://www.necitguy.com/?r=3D20= >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Bodington-developers mailing list >>> Bod...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How far >> can you shotput >> a projector? How fast can you ride your desk chair down the >> office luge track? >> If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. >> Play to win an NEC 61" plasma display: http://www.necitguy.com/?r >> _______________________________________________ >> Bodington-developers mailing list >> Bod...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers >> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How far can you=20= > shotput > a projector? How fast can you ride your desk chair down the office=20 > luge track? > If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. > Play to win an NEC 61" plasma display: http://www.necitguy.com/?r=3D20 > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Adam M. <ada...@co...> - 2005-06-15 14:49:33
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Will this go into 2.6? If so I'd suggest that it is added to head AFTER Aleixis's's's' WebAuth / SSO modific's as there will be the same issues with 'change password' links and text about 'logout' which he has now predicated. adam -- Adam Marshall: OUCS, 13, Banbury Rd. Oxford OX2 6NN. Shameless plug: Use the Bodington VLE http://bodington.org Blog: http://ramble.oucs.ox.ac.uk/blog/adamm/ Cheese of the month: Cheshire (not to be underestimated) | -----Original Message----- | From: bod...@li... [mailto:bodington- | dev...@li...] On Behalf Of Andrew Booth | Sent: 06 June 2005 12:51 | To: bod...@li... | Cc: Andrew Booth | Subject: [Bodington-developers] Bodington with SP and IdP | | Just to keep you up to date, we now have two bodingtons communicating IdP | to | SP and we have automatic account creation working at the SP end. It | shouldn't take too long to get the groups sorted as well. | | At the Bodington behind the SP, we have mapped /site and /shibsite to the | same bodington servlet. The Shibboleth servlet filter is set to protect | the | /shibsite URLs but not the /site ones, so the same resources can be | shib-protected or not depending on the URL used. | | One thing that we need to point out is that usernames created in the | SP-protected bodington are of the form use...@my... - we | therefore need to increase the size of the username field in the database, | which is currently 30 characters wide. We propose to increase it to 128 | characters. (The same had to be done with mvnForum to cope with usernames | of | this kind.) | | Do either of these changes (servlet mapping and field width) break | anything | anyone else is doing? | | Aggie and Atif | | | | | | ------------------------------------------------------- | This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How far can you | shotput | a projector? How fast can you ride your desk chair down the office luge | track? | If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. | Play to win an NEC 61" plasma display: http://www.necitguy.com/?r | _______________________________________________ | Bodington-developers mailing list | Bod...@li... | https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Sean M. <se...@sm...> - 2005-06-15 12:36:03
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no one from UHI!-< s <quote who=3D"Adam Marshall"> > Not from the Oxford VLE team. > > adam > > -- > Adam Marshall: OUCS, 13, Banbury Rd. Oxford OX2 6NN. > Shameless plug: Use the Bodington VLE http://bodington.org > Blog: http://ramble.oucs.ox.ac.uk/blog/adamm/ > Cheese of the month: Cheshire (not to be underestimated) > > | -----Original Message----- > | From: bod...@li... > [mailto:bodington- > | dev...@li...] On Behalf Of > jo...@ca... > | Sent: 14 June 2005 19:31 > | To: bod...@li... > | Cc: 'Ian Boston' > | Subject: RE: [Bodington-developers] Bodington/Sakai > | > | July 4 is a really bad date for me. Is anyone planning to attend > Alt-i-Lab > | in > | Sheffield? > | > | John > | > | Quoting Adam Marshall <ada...@co...>= : > | > | > Our next meeting is likely to be in Leeds in July. To me that sound= s > | > inconvenient to get to from Cambs so if you want to come here and h= ave > a > | > chat instead??? > | > > | > Are you coming to our next Bodington Buzz on July 4th? Sean from UH= I > | will be > | > here and it may be a good time to spend an hour having an informal > chat. > | > Unfortunately Aggie will be on a Caribbean beach at that time so wi= ll > be > | > really missing out! > | > > | > adam > | > > | > -- > | > Adam Marshall: OUCS, 13, Banbury Rd. Oxford OX2 6NN. > | > Shameless plug: Use the Bodington VLE http://bodington.org > | > Blog: http://ramble.oucs.ox.ac.uk/blog/adamm/ > | > Cheese of the month: Cheshire (not to be underestimated) > | > > | > | -----Original Message----- > | > | From: bod...@li... > | [mailto:bodington- > | > | dev...@li...] On Behalf Of John Norman > | > | Sent: 14 June 2005 18:37 > | > | To: bod...@li... > | > | Cc: 'Ian Boston' > | > | Subject: RE: [Bodington-developers] Bodington/Sakai > | > | > | > | Maybe we could tag something on to your next developer meeting to > | compare > | > | notes? An alternative that would involve more delay would be to t= ry > | and > | > | tie > | > | in with a UK Sakai developer meeting planned for the September > | timeframe. > | > | If > | > | we waited for that, we could get Chuck Severance (the principal > Sakai > | > | architect). Or we could do both..? > | > | > | > | John > | > | > | > | > -----Original Message----- > | > | > From: bod...@li... > | > | > [mailto:bod...@li...] On > | > | > Behalf Of Andrew Booth > | > | > Sent: 14 June 2005 11:20 > | > | > To: bod...@li... > | > | > Cc: Andrew Booth > | > | > Subject: RE: [Bodington-developers] Bodington/Sakai > | > | > > | > | > John > | > | > > | > | > That sounds interesting. How would you suggest taking the > | > | > scoping exercise forward? > | > | > > | > | > Aggie > | > | > > | > | > > | > | > > | > | > -----Original Message----- > | > | > From: bod...@li... > | > | > [mailto:bod...@li...] On > | > | > Behalf Of John Norman > | > | > Sent: 14 June 2005 10:25 > | > | > To: bod...@li... > | > | > Subject: [Bodington-developers] Bodington/Sakai > | > | > > | > | > Dear All > | > | > > | > | > I'm just back from the Sakai meeting in Baltimore. While > | > | > there I had the thought that it would be interesting to do a > | > | > scoping exercise on what it would take to get the code bases > | > | > of Sakai and Bodington to converge (or what inter-operation > | > | > strategies may be possible). > | > | > > | > | > Do you think this would be of interest to the Bodington communi= ty? > | We > | > | > (Cambridge) could obviously do it from one side, but it seems > | > | > to make sense to have those who understand the code > | > | > intimately in each project compare notes. I imagine that were > | > | > we to agree that (i) it would be possible and > | > | > (ii) it would be desirable, then a project to converge the > | > | > code would take around 12-18 months, but that may be a bit > | > | > premature right now > | > | > > | > | > Please let me know what you think. > | > | > > | > | > John > | > | > > | > | > PS. This is my individual/Cambridge idea and not an official > | > | > Sakai Project approach. > | > | > > | > | > Centre for Applied Research in Educational Technologies > | > | > (CARET) University of Cambridge > | > | > 16 Mill Lane > | > | > Cambridge CB2 1SB > | > | > > | > | > +44-1223-765367 > | > | > > | > | > > | > | > > | > | > ------------------------------------------------------- > | > | > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How far > | > | > can you shotput a projector? How fast can you ride your desk > | > | > chair down the office luge track? > | > | > If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. > | > | > Play to win an NEC 61" plasma display: > | > | > http://www.necitguy.com/?r=3D20 > | > | > _______________________________________________ > | > | > Bodington-developers mailing list > | > | > Bod...@li... > | > | > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-develope= rs > | > | > > | > | > > | > | > > | > | > ------------------------------------------------------- > | > | > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How far > | > | > can you shotput a projector? How fast can you ride your desk > | > | > chair down the office luge track? > | > | > If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. > | > | > Play to win an NEC 61" plasma display: > | > | > http://www.necitguy.com/?r > | > | > _______________________________________________ > | > | > Bodington-developers mailing list > | > | > Bod...@li... > | > | > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-develope= rs > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | ------------------------------------------------------- > | > | SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration > Strategies > | > | from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward article= s, > | > | informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up = to > | > | speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3D7477&alloc_id=3D16492&o= p=3Dclick > | > | _______________________________________________ > | > | Bodington-developers mailing list > | > | Bod...@li... > | > | https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > | > > | > > | > > | > > | > ------------------------------------------------------- > | > SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strateg= ies > | > from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, > | > informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to > | > speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3D7477&alloc_id=3D16492&op=3D= click > | > _______________________________________________ > | > Bodington-developers mailing list > | > Bod...@li... > | > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > | > > | > | > | > | > | ---------------------------------------------------------------- > | This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > | > | > | > | ------------------------------------------------------- > | SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategie= s > | from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, > | informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to > | speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3D7477&alloc_id=3D16492&op=3D= click > | _______________________________________________ > | Bodington-developers mailing list > | Bod...@li... > | https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies > from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, > informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to > speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3D7477&alloc_id=3D16492&op=3Dcl= ick > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > --=20 Sean Mehan Head of Computing Research SMO, UHI |
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From: Adam M. <ada...@co...> - 2005-06-15 11:47:24
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Not from the Oxford VLE team. adam -- Adam Marshall: OUCS, 13, Banbury Rd. Oxford OX2 6NN. Shameless plug: Use the Bodington VLE http://bodington.org Blog: http://ramble.oucs.ox.ac.uk/blog/adamm/ Cheese of the month: Cheshire (not to be underestimated) | -----Original Message----- | From: bod...@li... [mailto:bodington- | dev...@li...] On Behalf Of jo...@ca... | Sent: 14 June 2005 19:31 | To: bod...@li... | Cc: 'Ian Boston' | Subject: RE: [Bodington-developers] Bodington/Sakai | | July 4 is a really bad date for me. Is anyone planning to attend Alt-i-Lab | in | Sheffield? | | John | | Quoting Adam Marshall <ada...@co...>: | | > Our next meeting is likely to be in Leeds in July. To me that sounds | > inconvenient to get to from Cambs so if you want to come here and have a | > chat instead??? | > | > Are you coming to our next Bodington Buzz on July 4th? Sean from UHI | will be | > here and it may be a good time to spend an hour having an informal chat. | > Unfortunately Aggie will be on a Caribbean beach at that time so will be | > really missing out! | > | > adam | > | > -- | > Adam Marshall: OUCS, 13, Banbury Rd. Oxford OX2 6NN. | > Shameless plug: Use the Bodington VLE http://bodington.org | > Blog: http://ramble.oucs.ox.ac.uk/blog/adamm/ | > Cheese of the month: Cheshire (not to be underestimated) | > | > | -----Original Message----- | > | From: bod...@li... | [mailto:bodington- | > | dev...@li...] On Behalf Of John Norman | > | Sent: 14 June 2005 18:37 | > | To: bod...@li... | > | Cc: 'Ian Boston' | > | Subject: RE: [Bodington-developers] Bodington/Sakai | > | | > | Maybe we could tag something on to your next developer meeting to | compare | > | notes? An alternative that would involve more delay would be to try | and | > | tie | > | in with a UK Sakai developer meeting planned for the September | timeframe. | > | If | > | we waited for that, we could get Chuck Severance (the principal Sakai | > | architect). Or we could do both..? | > | | > | John | > | | > | > -----Original Message----- | > | > From: bod...@li... | > | > [mailto:bod...@li...] On | > | > Behalf Of Andrew Booth | > | > Sent: 14 June 2005 11:20 | > | > To: bod...@li... | > | > Cc: Andrew Booth | > | > Subject: RE: [Bodington-developers] Bodington/Sakai | > | > | > | > John | > | > | > | > That sounds interesting. How would you suggest taking the | > | > scoping exercise forward? | > | > | > | > Aggie | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > -----Original Message----- | > | > From: bod...@li... | > | > [mailto:bod...@li...] On | > | > Behalf Of John Norman | > | > Sent: 14 June 2005 10:25 | > | > To: bod...@li... | > | > Subject: [Bodington-developers] Bodington/Sakai | > | > | > | > Dear All | > | > | > | > I'm just back from the Sakai meeting in Baltimore. While | > | > there I had the thought that it would be interesting to do a | > | > scoping exercise on what it would take to get the code bases | > | > of Sakai and Bodington to converge (or what inter-operation | > | > strategies may be possible). | > | > | > | > Do you think this would be of interest to the Bodington community? | We | > | > (Cambridge) could obviously do it from one side, but it seems | > | > to make sense to have those who understand the code | > | > intimately in each project compare notes. I imagine that were | > | > we to agree that (i) it would be possible and | > | > (ii) it would be desirable, then a project to converge the | > | > code would take around 12-18 months, but that may be a bit | > | > premature right now | > | > | > | > Please let me know what you think. | > | > | > | > John | > | > | > | > PS. This is my individual/Cambridge idea and not an official | > | > Sakai Project approach. | > | > | > | > Centre for Applied Research in Educational Technologies | > | > (CARET) University of Cambridge | > | > 16 Mill Lane | > | > Cambridge CB2 1SB | > | > | > | > +44-1223-765367 | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > ------------------------------------------------------- | > | > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How far | > | > can you shotput a projector? How fast can you ride your desk | > | > chair down the office luge track? | > | > If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. | > | > Play to win an NEC 61" plasma display: | > | > http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 | > | > _______________________________________________ | > | > Bodington-developers mailing list | > | > Bod...@li... | > | > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > ------------------------------------------------------- | > | > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How far | > | > can you shotput a projector? How fast can you ride your desk | > | > chair down the office luge track? | > | > If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. | > | > Play to win an NEC 61" plasma display: | > | > http://www.necitguy.com/?r | > | > _______________________________________________ | > | > Bodington-developers mailing list | > | > Bod...@li... | > | > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers | > | > | > | | > | | > | | > | ------------------------------------------------------- | > | SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies | > | from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, | > | informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to | > | speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477&alloc_id=16492&op=click | > | _______________________________________________ | > | Bodington-developers mailing list | > | Bod...@li... | > | https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers | > | > | > | > | > ------------------------------------------------------- | > SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies | > from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, | > informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to | > speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477&alloc_id=16492&op=click | > _______________________________________________ | > Bodington-developers mailing list | > Bod...@li... | > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers | > | | | | | ---------------------------------------------------------------- | This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. | | | | ------------------------------------------------------- | SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies | from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, | informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to | speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477&alloc_id=16492&op=click | _______________________________________________ | Bodington-developers mailing list | Bod...@li... | https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Sean M. <se...@sm...> - 2005-06-15 10:37:05
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Hi. Please allow me to drop in here. I think that what you suggest is *very* interesting, but perhaps it will help if I put it into a wider context. You probably might not be aware that we had (great minds think alike and all that!-) an initial foray with Jim Farmer about Sakai developments before we had a summit meeting in Skye earlier this month. JF responded very enthusiastically and suggested that once we knew what we (the Bodders) wanted to do, that JF and others (he suggested Ian Dolphin anyway) come up for a second summit. Would you (and others) be open to a soonish meeting in Skye? I can promise a pint and maybe even a boat!-) Regards, Sean Mehan <quote who=3D"John Norman"> > Maybe we could tag something on to your next developer meeting to compa= re > notes? An alternative that would involve more delay would be to try and > tie > in with a UK Sakai developer meeting planned for the September timefram= e. > If > we waited for that, we could get Chuck Severance (the principal Sakai > architect). Or we could do both..? > > John > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: bod...@li... >> [mailto:bod...@li...] On >> Behalf Of Andrew Booth >> Sent: 14 June 2005 11:20 >> To: bod...@li... >> Cc: Andrew Booth >> Subject: RE: [Bodington-developers] Bodington/Sakai >> >> John >> >> That sounds interesting. How would you suggest taking the >> scoping exercise forward? >> >> Aggie >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: bod...@li... >> [mailto:bod...@li...] On >> Behalf Of John Norman >> Sent: 14 June 2005 10:25 >> To: bod...@li... >> Subject: [Bodington-developers] Bodington/Sakai >> >> Dear All >> >> I'm just back from the Sakai meeting in Baltimore. While >> there I had the thought that it would be interesting to do a >> scoping exercise on what it would take to get the code bases >> of Sakai and Bodington to converge (or what inter-operation >> strategies may be possible). >> >> Do you think this would be of interest to the Bodington community? We >> (Cambridge) could obviously do it from one side, but it seems >> to make sense to have those who understand the code >> intimately in each project compare notes. I imagine that were >> we to agree that (i) it would be possible and >> (ii) it would be desirable, then a project to converge the >> code would take around 12-18 months, but that may be a bit >> premature right now >> >> Please let me know what you think. >> >> John >> >> PS. This is my individual/Cambridge idea and not an official >> Sakai Project approach. >> >> Centre for Applied Research in Educational Technologies >> (CARET) University of Cambridge >> 16 Mill Lane >> Cambridge CB2 1SB >> >> +44-1223-765367 >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How far >> can you shotput a projector? How fast can you ride your desk >> chair down the office luge track? >> If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. >> Play to win an NEC 61" plasma display: >> http://www.necitguy.com/?r=3D20 >> _______________________________________________ >> Bodington-developers mailing list >> Bod...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How far >> can you shotput a projector? How fast can you ride your desk >> chair down the office luge track? >> If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. >> Play to win an NEC 61" plasma display: >> http://www.necitguy.com/?r >> _______________________________________________ >> Bodington-developers mailing list >> Bod...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers >> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies > from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, > informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to > speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3D7477&alloc_id=3D16492&op=3Dcl= ick > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > --=20 Sean Mehan Head of Computing Research SMO, UHI |
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From: <jo...@ca...> - 2005-06-14 18:30:58
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July 4 is a really bad date for me. Is anyone planning to attend Alt-i-Lab in Sheffield? John Quoting Adam Marshall <ada...@co...>: > Our next meeting is likely to be in Leeds in July. To me that sounds > inconvenient to get to from Cambs so if you want to come here and have a > chat instead??? > > Are you coming to our next Bodington Buzz on July 4th? Sean from UHI will be > here and it may be a good time to spend an hour having an informal chat. > Unfortunately Aggie will be on a Caribbean beach at that time so will be > really missing out! > > adam > > -- > Adam Marshall: OUCS, 13, Banbury Rd. Oxford OX2 6NN. > Shameless plug: Use the Bodington VLE http://bodington.org > Blog: http://ramble.oucs.ox.ac.uk/blog/adamm/ > Cheese of the month: Cheshire (not to be underestimated) > > | -----Original Message----- > | From: bod...@li... [mailto:bodington- > | dev...@li...] On Behalf Of John Norman > | Sent: 14 June 2005 18:37 > | To: bod...@li... > | Cc: 'Ian Boston' > | Subject: RE: [Bodington-developers] Bodington/Sakai > | > | Maybe we could tag something on to your next developer meeting to compare > | notes? An alternative that would involve more delay would be to try and > | tie > | in with a UK Sakai developer meeting planned for the September timeframe. > | If > | we waited for that, we could get Chuck Severance (the principal Sakai > | architect). Or we could do both..? > | > | John > | > | > -----Original Message----- > | > From: bod...@li... > | > [mailto:bod...@li...] On > | > Behalf Of Andrew Booth > | > Sent: 14 June 2005 11:20 > | > To: bod...@li... > | > Cc: Andrew Booth > | > Subject: RE: [Bodington-developers] Bodington/Sakai > | > > | > John > | > > | > That sounds interesting. How would you suggest taking the > | > scoping exercise forward? > | > > | > Aggie > | > > | > > | > > | > -----Original Message----- > | > From: bod...@li... > | > [mailto:bod...@li...] On > | > Behalf Of John Norman > | > Sent: 14 June 2005 10:25 > | > To: bod...@li... > | > Subject: [Bodington-developers] Bodington/Sakai > | > > | > Dear All > | > > | > I'm just back from the Sakai meeting in Baltimore. While > | > there I had the thought that it would be interesting to do a > | > scoping exercise on what it would take to get the code bases > | > of Sakai and Bodington to converge (or what inter-operation > | > strategies may be possible). > | > > | > Do you think this would be of interest to the Bodington community? We > | > (Cambridge) could obviously do it from one side, but it seems > | > to make sense to have those who understand the code > | > intimately in each project compare notes. I imagine that were > | > we to agree that (i) it would be possible and > | > (ii) it would be desirable, then a project to converge the > | > code would take around 12-18 months, but that may be a bit > | > premature right now > | > > | > Please let me know what you think. > | > > | > John > | > > | > PS. This is my individual/Cambridge idea and not an official > | > Sakai Project approach. > | > > | > Centre for Applied Research in Educational Technologies > | > (CARET) University of Cambridge > | > 16 Mill Lane > | > Cambridge CB2 1SB > | > > | > +44-1223-765367 > | > > | > > | > > | > ------------------------------------------------------- > | > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How far > | > can you shotput a projector? How fast can you ride your desk > | > chair down the office luge track? > | > If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. > | > Play to win an NEC 61" plasma display: > | > http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 > | > _______________________________________________ > | > Bodington-developers mailing list > | > Bod...@li... > | > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > | > > | > > | > > | > ------------------------------------------------------- > | > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How far > | > can you shotput a projector? How fast can you ride your desk > | > chair down the office luge track? > | > If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. > | > Play to win an NEC 61" plasma display: > | > http://www.necitguy.com/?r > | > _______________________________________________ > | > Bodington-developers mailing list > | > Bod...@li... > | > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > | > > | > | > | > | ------------------------------------------------------- > | SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies > | from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, > | informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to > | speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477&alloc_id=16492&op=click > | _______________________________________________ > | Bodington-developers mailing list > | Bod...@li... > | https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies > from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, > informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to > speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477&alloc_id=16492&op=click > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. |
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From: Andrew B. <a.g...@le...> - 2005-06-14 18:21:54
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But you will be in my thoughts. In the meantime, type Grand Anse into Google... Then ask how much I'm missing out. ;-) Aggie -----Original Message----- From: bod...@li... [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of Adam Marshall Sent: 14 June 2005 19:02 To: bod...@li... Cc: 'Ian Boston' Subject: RE: [Bodington-developers] Bodington/Sakai Our next meeting is likely to be in Leeds in July. To me that sounds inconvenient to get to from Cambs so if you want to come here and have a chat instead??? Are you coming to our next Bodington Buzz on July 4th? Sean from UHI will be here and it may be a good time to spend an hour having an informal chat. Unfortunately Aggie will be on a Caribbean beach at that time so will be really missing out! adam -- Adam Marshall: OUCS, 13, Banbury Rd. Oxford OX2 6NN. Shameless plug: Use the Bodington VLE http://bodington.org Blog: http://ramble.oucs.ox.ac.uk/blog/adamm/ Cheese of the month: Cheshire (not to be underestimated) | -----Original Message----- | From: bod...@li... [mailto:bodington- | dev...@li...] On Behalf Of John Norman | Sent: 14 June 2005 18:37 | To: bod...@li... | Cc: 'Ian Boston' | Subject: RE: [Bodington-developers] Bodington/Sakai | | Maybe we could tag something on to your next developer meeting to compare | notes? An alternative that would involve more delay would be to try and | tie | in with a UK Sakai developer meeting planned for the September timeframe. | If | we waited for that, we could get Chuck Severance (the principal Sakai | architect). Or we could do both..? | | John | | > -----Original Message----- | > From: bod...@li... | > [mailto:bod...@li...] On | > Behalf Of Andrew Booth | > Sent: 14 June 2005 11:20 | > To: bod...@li... | > Cc: Andrew Booth | > Subject: RE: [Bodington-developers] Bodington/Sakai | > | > John | > | > That sounds interesting. How would you suggest taking the | > scoping exercise forward? | > | > Aggie | > | > | > | > -----Original Message----- | > From: bod...@li... | > [mailto:bod...@li...] On | > Behalf Of John Norman | > Sent: 14 June 2005 10:25 | > To: bod...@li... | > Subject: [Bodington-developers] Bodington/Sakai | > | > Dear All | > | > I'm just back from the Sakai meeting in Baltimore. While | > there I had the thought that it would be interesting to do a | > scoping exercise on what it would take to get the code bases | > of Sakai and Bodington to converge (or what inter-operation | > strategies may be possible). | > | > Do you think this would be of interest to the Bodington community? We | > (Cambridge) could obviously do it from one side, but it seems | > to make sense to have those who understand the code | > intimately in each project compare notes. I imagine that were | > we to agree that (i) it would be possible and | > (ii) it would be desirable, then a project to converge the | > code would take around 12-18 months, but that may be a bit | > premature right now | > | > Please let me know what you think. | > | > John | > | > PS. This is my individual/Cambridge idea and not an official | > Sakai Project approach. | > | > Centre for Applied Research in Educational Technologies | > (CARET) University of Cambridge | > 16 Mill Lane | > Cambridge CB2 1SB | > | > +44-1223-765367 | > | > | > | > ------------------------------------------------------- | > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How far | > can you shotput a projector? How fast can you ride your desk | > chair down the office luge track? | > If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. | > Play to win an NEC 61" plasma display: | > http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 | > _______________________________________________ | > Bodington-developers mailing list | > Bod...@li... | > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers | > | > | > | > ------------------------------------------------------- | > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How far | > can you shotput a projector? How fast can you ride your desk | > chair down the office luge track? | > If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. | > Play to win an NEC 61" plasma display: | > http://www.necitguy.com/?r | > _______________________________________________ | > Bodington-developers mailing list | > Bod...@li... | > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers | > | | | | ------------------------------------------------------- | SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies | from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, | informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to | speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477&alloc_id=16492&op=click | _______________________________________________ | Bodington-developers mailing list | Bod...@li... | https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers ------------------------------------------------------- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477&alloc_id=16492&op=click _______________________________________________ Bodington-developers mailing list Bod...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Adam M. <ada...@co...> - 2005-06-14 18:02:13
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Our next meeting is likely to be in Leeds in July. To me that sounds inconvenient to get to from Cambs so if you want to come here and have a chat instead??? Are you coming to our next Bodington Buzz on July 4th? Sean from UHI will be here and it may be a good time to spend an hour having an informal chat. Unfortunately Aggie will be on a Caribbean beach at that time so will be really missing out! adam -- Adam Marshall: OUCS, 13, Banbury Rd. Oxford OX2 6NN. Shameless plug: Use the Bodington VLE http://bodington.org Blog: http://ramble.oucs.ox.ac.uk/blog/adamm/ Cheese of the month: Cheshire (not to be underestimated) | -----Original Message----- | From: bod...@li... [mailto:bodington- | dev...@li...] On Behalf Of John Norman | Sent: 14 June 2005 18:37 | To: bod...@li... | Cc: 'Ian Boston' | Subject: RE: [Bodington-developers] Bodington/Sakai | | Maybe we could tag something on to your next developer meeting to compare | notes? An alternative that would involve more delay would be to try and | tie | in with a UK Sakai developer meeting planned for the September timeframe. | If | we waited for that, we could get Chuck Severance (the principal Sakai | architect). Or we could do both..? | | John | | > -----Original Message----- | > From: bod...@li... | > [mailto:bod...@li...] On | > Behalf Of Andrew Booth | > Sent: 14 June 2005 11:20 | > To: bod...@li... | > Cc: Andrew Booth | > Subject: RE: [Bodington-developers] Bodington/Sakai | > | > John | > | > That sounds interesting. How would you suggest taking the | > scoping exercise forward? | > | > Aggie | > | > | > | > -----Original Message----- | > From: bod...@li... | > [mailto:bod...@li...] On | > Behalf Of John Norman | > Sent: 14 June 2005 10:25 | > To: bod...@li... | > Subject: [Bodington-developers] Bodington/Sakai | > | > Dear All | > | > I'm just back from the Sakai meeting in Baltimore. While | > there I had the thought that it would be interesting to do a | > scoping exercise on what it would take to get the code bases | > of Sakai and Bodington to converge (or what inter-operation | > strategies may be possible). | > | > Do you think this would be of interest to the Bodington community? We | > (Cambridge) could obviously do it from one side, but it seems | > to make sense to have those who understand the code | > intimately in each project compare notes. I imagine that were | > we to agree that (i) it would be possible and | > (ii) it would be desirable, then a project to converge the | > code would take around 12-18 months, but that may be a bit | > premature right now | > | > Please let me know what you think. | > | > John | > | > PS. This is my individual/Cambridge idea and not an official | > Sakai Project approach. | > | > Centre for Applied Research in Educational Technologies | > (CARET) University of Cambridge | > 16 Mill Lane | > Cambridge CB2 1SB | > | > +44-1223-765367 | > | > | > | > ------------------------------------------------------- | > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How far | > can you shotput a projector? How fast can you ride your desk | > chair down the office luge track? | > If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. | > Play to win an NEC 61" plasma display: | > http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 | > _______________________________________________ | > Bodington-developers mailing list | > Bod...@li... | > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers | > | > | > | > ------------------------------------------------------- | > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How far | > can you shotput a projector? How fast can you ride your desk | > chair down the office luge track? | > If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. | > Play to win an NEC 61" plasma display: | > http://www.necitguy.com/?r | > _______________________________________________ | > Bodington-developers mailing list | > Bod...@li... | > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers | > | | | | ------------------------------------------------------- | SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies | from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, | informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to | speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477&alloc_id=16492&op=click | _______________________________________________ | Bodington-developers mailing list | Bod...@li... | https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Alistair Y. <ali...@sm...> - 2005-06-14 17:55:05
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> Would there be requirements from GX too? nope - gx doesn't know anything about bod other than it has attributes in it somewhere! Alistair --=20 Alistair Young Senior Software Engineer UHI@Sabhal M=F2r Ostaig Isle of Skye Scotland > We have a temporary developer starting soon who will work on an admin > tools > interface. She will be wanting to speak to the sysadmins at oxford, Lee= ds, > Manchester?, UHI and other users about what they would like to be able = to > do > with Bod which they currently cannot, for example, we have a requiremen= t > to > transfer admin right from one staff member to another which would be us= ed > when somebody leaves and somebody else takes over their job (as floor > admin). > > I'm not sure if all sysadmins are on this list - if not could somebody > from > Leeds, UHI and Manchester tell me who the person to contact would be. > > We'd also be interested in talking to Eton and the Yorkshire colleges. > > Would there be requirements from GX too? > > We wont get a massive amount of work done as theres only 5-6 weeks of > requirements and programming - the main point is for her to pass her > dissertation. > > I suggested that she joins the dev list. > > adam > > -- > Adam Marshall: OUCS, 13, Banbury Rd. Oxford OX2 6NN. > Shameless plug: Use the Bodington VLE http://bodington.org > Blog: http://ramble.oucs.ox.ac.uk/blog/adamm/ > Cheese of the month: Cheshire (not to be underestimated) > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies > from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, > informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to > speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3D7477&alloc_id=3D16492&op=3Dcl= ick > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > |
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From: Adam M. <ada...@co...> - 2005-06-14 17:46:13
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We have a temporary developer starting soon who will work on an admin tools interface. She will be wanting to speak to the sysadmins at oxford, Leeds, Manchester?, UHI and other users about what they would like to be able to do with Bod which they currently cannot, for example, we have a requirement to transfer admin right from one staff member to another which would be used when somebody leaves and somebody else takes over their job (as floor admin). I'm not sure if all sysadmins are on this list - if not could somebody from Leeds, UHI and Manchester tell me who the person to contact would be. We'd also be interested in talking to Eton and the Yorkshire colleges. Would there be requirements from GX too? We wont get a massive amount of work done as theres only 5-6 weeks of requirements and programming - the main point is for her to pass her dissertation. I suggested that she joins the dev list. adam -- Adam Marshall: OUCS, 13, Banbury Rd. Oxford OX2 6NN. Shameless plug: Use the Bodington VLE http://bodington.org Blog: http://ramble.oucs.ox.ac.uk/blog/adamm/ Cheese of the month: Cheshire (not to be underestimated) |
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From: John N. <jo...@ca...> - 2005-06-14 17:37:33
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Maybe we could tag something on to your next developer meeting to compare notes? An alternative that would involve more delay would be to try and tie in with a UK Sakai developer meeting planned for the September timeframe. If we waited for that, we could get Chuck Severance (the principal Sakai architect). Or we could do both..? John > -----Original Message----- > From: bod...@li... > [mailto:bod...@li...] On > Behalf Of Andrew Booth > Sent: 14 June 2005 11:20 > To: bod...@li... > Cc: Andrew Booth > Subject: RE: [Bodington-developers] Bodington/Sakai > > John > > That sounds interesting. How would you suggest taking the > scoping exercise forward? > > Aggie > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: bod...@li... > [mailto:bod...@li...] On > Behalf Of John Norman > Sent: 14 June 2005 10:25 > To: bod...@li... > Subject: [Bodington-developers] Bodington/Sakai > > Dear All > > I'm just back from the Sakai meeting in Baltimore. While > there I had the thought that it would be interesting to do a > scoping exercise on what it would take to get the code bases > of Sakai and Bodington to converge (or what inter-operation > strategies may be possible). > > Do you think this would be of interest to the Bodington community? We > (Cambridge) could obviously do it from one side, but it seems > to make sense to have those who understand the code > intimately in each project compare notes. I imagine that were > we to agree that (i) it would be possible and > (ii) it would be desirable, then a project to converge the > code would take around 12-18 months, but that may be a bit > premature right now > > Please let me know what you think. > > John > > PS. This is my individual/Cambridge idea and not an official > Sakai Project approach. > > Centre for Applied Research in Educational Technologies > (CARET) University of Cambridge > 16 Mill Lane > Cambridge CB2 1SB > > +44-1223-765367 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How far > can you shotput a projector? How fast can you ride your desk > chair down the office luge track? > If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. > Play to win an NEC 61" plasma display: > http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How far > can you shotput a projector? How fast can you ride your desk > chair down the office luge track? > If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. > Play to win an NEC 61" plasma display: > http://www.necitguy.com/?r > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > |
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From: Colin T. <col...@co...> - 2005-06-14 16:57:47
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> It was originally for i18n - if the templates are too verbose that's > another problem entirely. Yes, I agree. (I wasn't talking about i18n at all in my email, and I want to know about the other UHI template improvements...) > delay translation even more > while the templates are updated to some other format. I'm hoping for some fairly small and simple changes (ha! silly me!) Colin ____________________________________ Colin Tatham VLE Team Oxford University Computing Services www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/ www.bodington.org > -----Original Message----- > From: bod...@li... > [mailto:bod...@li...]On Behalf Of > Alistair Young > Sent: 14 June 2005 17:49 > To: bod...@li... > Subject: RE: [Bodington-developers] Templates (was: attn Alistair and > sean) > > > It was originally for i18n - if the templates are too verbose that's > another problem entirely. The danger now is we delay > translation even more > while the templates are updated to some other format. > > Who was coordinating the template divvy-up and merge into sf? fc? > > Alistair > > > -- > Alistair Young > Senior Software Engineer > UHI@Sabhal Mòr Ostaig > Isle of Skye > Scotland > > > > > Adam sed: > > > >> > So what's happening about getting the UHI templates into > SF and then > >> > distributing instructions on how to internationalise and > >> then doing the > >> > edits? This task was supposed to run from 21 may - 7 > june so we are > >> > already > >> > a week overdue and we haven't seen any templates yet! > > > > Alistair replied: > > > >> I sent a message to the list on 26/5 saying 1i8n was ready > >> and including > >> instructions on how to localise a template: > >> http://www.weblogs.uhi.ac.uk/sm00ay/?p=90 > > > > > > ... and I think that looks great! > > > > > > The bit Adam was asking about is what state the templates > are in that have > > your improved user interface changes (e.g. collapsible help > text, 'manage' > > link, etc). We need to get those changes before we start > updating others. > > > > A related issue is how committed we feel to the XML > templates as they are? > > We all seem to find them too verbose -- maybe we could simplify them > > slightly. Matthew suggested adding support for the > <building> tags in the > > new templates, which could save a lot of work. > > > > Colin > > > > > > ____________________________________ > > Colin Tatham > > VLE Team > > Oxford University Computing Services > > www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/ > > www.bodington.org > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: bod...@li... > >> > [mailto:bod...@li...]On Behalf Of > >> Alistair Young > >> Sent: 13 June 2005 15:12 > >> To: bod...@li... > >> Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] attn Alistair and sean > >> > >> > >> Adam, > >> I sent a message to the list on 26/5 saying 1i8n was ready > >> and including > >> instructions on how to localise a template: > >> http://www.weblogs.uhi.ac.uk/sm00ay/?p=90 > >> not sure what the plan is to get the new templates into sf > - perhaps > >> someone may know? > >> Alistair > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Alistair Young > >> Senior Software Engineer > >> UHI@Sabhal Mòr Ostaig > >> Isle of Skye > >> Scotland > >> > >> > So what's happening about getting the UHI templates into > SF and then > >> > distributing instructions on how to internationalise and > >> then doing the > >> > edits? This task was supposed to run from 21 may - 7 > june so we are > >> > already > >> > a week overdue and we haven't seen any templates yet! > >> > > >> > We're going to have institutional commitments soon which > >> will prevent us > >> > from helping out with the internationalisation. > >> > > >> > adam > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Adam Marshall: OUCS, 13, Banbury Rd. Oxford OX2 6NN. > >> > Shameless plug: Use the Bodington VLE http://bodington.org > >> > Blog: http://ramble.oucs.ox.ac.uk/blog/adamm/ > >> > Cheese of the month: Cheshire (not to be underestimated) > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ------------------------------------------------------- > >> > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How > >> far can you > >> > shotput > >> > a projector? How fast can you ride your desk chair down the > >> office luge > >> > track? > >> > If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. > >> > Play to win an NEC 61" plasma display: http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Bodington-developers mailing list >> > Bod...@li... >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers >> > >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How far >> can you shotput >> a projector? How fast can you ride your desk chair down the >> office luge track? >> If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. >> Play to win an NEC 61" plasma display: http://www.necitguy.com/?r >> _______________________________________________ >> Bodington-developers mailing list >> Bod...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers >> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How far can you > shotput > a projector? How fast can you ride your desk chair down the office luge > track? > If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. > Play to win an NEC 61" plasma display: http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > ------------------------------------------------------- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt77&alloc_id492&op=ick _______________________________________________ Bodington-developers mailing list Bod...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Alistair Y. <ali...@sm...> - 2005-06-14 16:48:58
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It was originally for i18n - if the templates are too verbose that's another problem entirely. The danger now is we delay translation even mor= e while the templates are updated to some other format. Who was coordinating the template divvy-up and merge into sf? fc? Alistair --=20 Alistair Young Senior Software Engineer UHI@Sabhal M=F2r Ostaig Isle of Skye Scotland > > Adam sed: > >> > So what's happening about getting the UHI templates into SF and then >> > distributing instructions on how to internationalise and >> then doing the >> > edits? This task was supposed to run from 21 may - 7 june so we are >> > already >> > a week overdue and we haven't seen any templates yet! > > Alistair replied: > >> I sent a message to the list on 26/5 saying 1i8n was ready >> and including >> instructions on how to localise a template: >> http://www.weblogs.uhi.ac.uk/sm00ay/?p=3D90 > > > ... and I think that looks great! > > > The bit Adam was asking about is what state the templates are in that h= ave > your improved user interface changes (e.g. collapsible help text, 'mana= ge' > link, etc). We need to get those changes before we start updating other= s. > > A related issue is how committed we feel to the XML templates as they a= re? > We all seem to find them too verbose -- maybe we could simplify them > slightly. Matthew suggested adding support for the <building> tags in t= he > new templates, which could save a lot of work. > > Colin > > > ____________________________________ > Colin Tatham > VLE Team > Oxford University Computing Services > www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/ > www.bodington.org > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: bod...@li... >> [mailto:bod...@li...]On Behalf Of >> Alistair Young >> Sent: 13 June 2005 15:12 >> To: bod...@li... >> Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] attn Alistair and sean >> >> >> Adam, >> I sent a message to the list on 26/5 saying 1i8n was ready >> and including >> instructions on how to localise a template: >> http://www.weblogs.uhi.ac.uk/sm00ay/?p=3D90 >> not sure what the plan is to get the new templates into sf - perhaps >> someone may know? >> Alistair >> >> >> -- >> Alistair Young >> Senior Software Engineer >> UHI@Sabhal M=F2r Ostaig >> Isle of Skye >> Scotland >> >> > So what's happening about getting the UHI templates into SF and then >> > distributing instructions on how to internationalise and >> then doing the >> > edits? This task was supposed to run from 21 may - 7 june so we are >> > already >> > a week overdue and we haven't seen any templates yet! >> > >> > We're going to have institutional commitments soon which >> will prevent us >> > from helping out with the internationalisation. >> > >> > adam >> > >> > -- >> > Adam Marshall: OUCS, 13, Banbury Rd. Oxford OX2 6NN. >> > Shameless plug: Use the Bodington VLE http://bodington.org >> > Blog: http://ramble.oucs.ox.ac.uk/blog/adamm/ >> > Cheese of the month: Cheshire (not to be underestimated) >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------- >> > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How >> far can you >> > shotput >> > a projector? How fast can you ride your desk chair down the >> office luge >> > track? >> > If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. >> > Play to win an NEC 61" plasma display: http://www.necitguy.com/?r=3D= 20 >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Bodington-developers mailing list >> > Bod...@li... >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers >> > >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How far >> can you shotput >> a projector? How fast can you ride your desk chair down the >> office luge track? >> If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. >> Play to win an NEC 61" plasma display: http://www.necitguy.com/?r >> _______________________________________________ >> Bodington-developers mailing list >> Bod...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers >> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How far can you > shotput > a projector? How fast can you ride your desk chair down the office luge > track? > If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. > Play to win an NEC 61" plasma display: http://www.necitguy.com/?r=3D20 > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > |
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From: Colin T. <col...@co...> - 2005-06-14 15:36:00
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12, 13, or 14 July all OK with me (although I'd obviously much prefer it to be after the Buzz in Oxford...) ____________________________________ Colin Tatham VLE Team Oxford University Computing Services www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/ www.bodington.org > -----Original Message----- > From: bod...@li... > [mailto:bod...@li...]On Behalf Of > Jane Jotcham > Sent: 14 June 2005 16:16 > To: bod...@li... > Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] Next Developers meeting > > > The responses to my message about availability for the next > developers' > meeting indicate that a some people are not available before the week > beginning 11 July. Could I please ask everyone to let me know their > availability for a meeting on any of 12, 13, or 14 July (Tuesday, > Wednesday, Thursday). Unless there is a preference for an alternate > venue I suggest we host the meeting here in Leeds. > > Thanks > > Jane > > > Jane Jotcham wrote: > > > We need to set a date for the next developers' meeting to > take place > > prior to release 2.6. Can people please advise when they > are available > > in July from 5 July onwards. One thought I had was that if most > > people are in Oxford for Buzz on 4 July the meeting could > be in Oxford > > on the 5th. However, I have not checked anyone's availability for > > this so advice would be appreciated. > > > > Thanks > > Jane > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How > far can you > > shotput > > a projector? How fast can you ride your desk chair down the office > > luge track? > > If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little > guy. Play > > to win an NEC 61" plasma display: http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 > > _______________________________________________ > > Bodington-developers mailing list > > Bod...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How far > can you shotput > a projector? How fast can you ride your desk chair down the > office luge track? > If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. > Play to win an NEC 61" plasma display: http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > |
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From: Antony C. <an...@sm...> - 2005-06-14 15:33:51
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will be in Stornoway from Weds (13th) onwards. Following week would be fine if the ELD developer forum has not been confirmed On 14 Jun 2005, at 16:15, Jane Jotcham wrote: > The responses to my message about availability for the next > developers' meeting indicate that a some people are not available > before the week beginning 11 July. Could I please ask everyone to let > me know their availability for a meeting on any of 12, 13, or 14 July > (Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday). Unless there is a preference for an > alternate venue I suggest we host the meeting here in Leeds. > > Thanks > > Jane > > > Jane Jotcham wrote: > >> We need to set a date for the next developers' meeting to take place >> prior to release 2.6. Can people please advise when they are >> available in July from 5 July onwards. One thought I had was that >> if most people are in Oxford for Buzz on 4 July the meeting could be >> in Oxford on the 5th. However, I have not checked anyone's >> availability for this so advice would be appreciated. >> >> Thanks >> Jane >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How far can you >> shotput >> a projector? How fast can you ride your desk chair down the office >> luge track? >> If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. Play >> to win an NEC 61" plasma display: http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> Bodington-developers mailing list >> Bod...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How far can you > shotput > a projector? How fast can you ride your desk chair down the office > luge track? > If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. Play > to win an NEC 61" plasma display: http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Adam M. <ada...@co...> - 2005-06-14 15:16:43
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Yep/nope/yep -- Adam Marshall: OUCS, 13, Banbury Rd. Oxford OX2 6NN. Shameless plug: Use the Bodington VLE http://bodington.org Blog: http://ramble.oucs.ox.ac.uk/blog/adamm/ Cheese of the month: Cheshire (not to be underestimated) | -----Original Message----- | From: bod...@li... [mailto:bodington- | dev...@li...] On Behalf Of Jane Jotcham | Sent: 14 June 2005 16:16 | To: bod...@li... | Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] Next Developers meeting | | The responses to my message about availability for the next developers' | meeting indicate that a some people are not available before the week | beginning 11 July. Could I please ask everyone to let me know their | availability for a meeting on any of 12, 13, or 14 July (Tuesday, | Wednesday, Thursday). Unless there is a preference for an alternate | venue I suggest we host the meeting here in Leeds. | | Thanks | | Jane | | | Jane Jotcham wrote: | | > We need to set a date for the next developers' meeting to take place | > prior to release 2.6. Can people please advise when they are available | > in July from 5 July onwards. One thought I had was that if most | > people are in Oxford for Buzz on 4 July the meeting could be in Oxford | > on the 5th. However, I have not checked anyone's availability for | > this so advice would be appreciated. | > | > Thanks | > Jane | > | > | > | > | > | > ------------------------------------------------------- | > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How far can you | > shotput | > a projector? How fast can you ride your desk chair down the office | > luge track? | > If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. Play | > to win an NEC 61" plasma display: http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 | > _______________________________________________ | > Bodington-developers mailing list | > Bod...@li... | > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers | | | | | | ------------------------------------------------------- | This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How far can you | shotput | a projector? How fast can you ride your desk chair down the office luge | track? | If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. | Play to win an NEC 61" plasma display: http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 | _______________________________________________ | Bodington-developers mailing list | Bod...@li... | https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Jane J. <jan...@bo...> - 2005-06-14 15:09:17
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The responses to my message about availability for the next developers' meeting indicate that a some people are not available before the week beginning 11 July. Could I please ask everyone to let me know their availability for a meeting on any of 12, 13, or 14 July (Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday). Unless there is a preference for an alternate venue I suggest we host the meeting here in Leeds. Thanks Jane Jane Jotcham wrote: > We need to set a date for the next developers' meeting to take place > prior to release 2.6. Can people please advise when they are available > in July from 5 July onwards. One thought I had was that if most > people are in Oxford for Buzz on 4 July the meeting could be in Oxford > on the 5th. However, I have not checked anyone's availability for > this so advice would be appreciated. > > Thanks > Jane > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How far can you > shotput > a projector? How fast can you ride your desk chair down the office > luge track? > If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. Play > to win an NEC 61" plasma display: http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: Sean M. <se...@sm...> - 2005-06-14 12:12:12
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> > A related issue is how committed we feel to the XML templates as they a= re? > We all seem to find them too verbose -- maybe we could simplify them > slightly. Matthew suggested adding support for the <building> tags in t= he > new templates, which could save a lot of work. > ++2! |
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From: Colin T. <col...@co...> - 2005-06-14 12:00:53
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Adam sed: > > So what's happening about getting the UHI templates into SF and then > > distributing instructions on how to internationalise and > then doing the > > edits? This task was supposed to run from 21 may - 7 june so we are > > already > > a week overdue and we haven't seen any templates yet! Alistair replied: > I sent a message to the list on 26/5 saying 1i8n was ready > and including > instructions on how to localise a template: > http://www.weblogs.uhi.ac.uk/sm00ay/?p=90 ... and I think that looks great! The bit Adam was asking about is what state the templates are in that have your improved user interface changes (e.g. collapsible help text, 'manage' link, etc). We need to get those changes before we start updating others. A related issue is how committed we feel to the XML templates as they are? We all seem to find them too verbose -- maybe we could simplify them slightly. Matthew suggested adding support for the <building> tags in the new templates, which could save a lot of work. Colin ____________________________________ Colin Tatham VLE Team Oxford University Computing Services www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/vle/ www.bodington.org > -----Original Message----- > From: bod...@li... > [mailto:bod...@li...]On Behalf Of > Alistair Young > Sent: 13 June 2005 15:12 > To: bod...@li... > Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] attn Alistair and sean > > > Adam, > I sent a message to the list on 26/5 saying 1i8n was ready > and including > instructions on how to localise a template: > http://www.weblogs.uhi.ac.uk/sm00ay/?p=90 > not sure what the plan is to get the new templates into sf - perhaps > someone may know? > Alistair > > > -- > Alistair Young > Senior Software Engineer > UHI@Sabhal Mòr Ostaig > Isle of Skye > Scotland > > > So what's happening about getting the UHI templates into SF and then > > distributing instructions on how to internationalise and > then doing the > > edits? This task was supposed to run from 21 may - 7 june so we are > > already > > a week overdue and we haven't seen any templates yet! > > > > We're going to have institutional commitments soon which > will prevent us > > from helping out with the internationalisation. > > > > adam > > > > -- > > Adam Marshall: OUCS, 13, Banbury Rd. Oxford OX2 6NN. > > Shameless plug: Use the Bodington VLE http://bodington.org > > Blog: http://ramble.oucs.ox.ac.uk/blog/adamm/ > > Cheese of the month: Cheshire (not to be underestimated) > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How > far can you > > shotput > > a projector? How fast can you ride your desk chair down the > office luge > > track? > > If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. > > Play to win an NEC 61" plasma display: http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 > > _______________________________________________ > > Bodington-developers mailing list > > Bod...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How far > can you shotput > a projector? How fast can you ride your desk chair down the > office luge track? > If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. > Play to win an NEC 61" plasma display: http://www.necitguy.com/?r > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > |
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From: Andrew B. <a.g...@le...> - 2005-06-14 10:20:11
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John That sounds interesting. How would you suggest taking the scoping = exercise forward? Aggie -----Original Message----- From: bod...@li... [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of = John Norman Sent: 14 June 2005 10:25 To: bod...@li... Subject: [Bodington-developers] Bodington/Sakai Dear All I'm just back from the Sakai meeting in Baltimore. While there I had the thought that it would be interesting to do a scoping exercise on what it would take to get the code bases of Sakai and Bodington to converge (or = what inter-operation strategies may be possible). Do you think this would be of interest to the Bodington community? We (Cambridge) could obviously do it from one side, but it seems to make = sense to have those who understand the code intimately in each project compare notes. I imagine that were we to agree that (i) it would be possible and (ii) it would be desirable, then a project to converge the code would = take around 12-18 months, but that may be a bit premature right now Please let me know what you think. John PS. This is my individual/Cambridge idea and not an official Sakai = Project approach. Centre for Applied Research in Educational Technologies (CARET) University of Cambridge 16 Mill Lane Cambridge CB2 1SB=20 +44-1223-765367 ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How far can you shotput a projector? How fast can you ride your desk chair down the office luge track? If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. =20 Play to win an NEC 61" plasma display: http://www.necitguy.com/?r=3D20 _______________________________________________ Bodington-developers mailing list Bod...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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From: John N. <jo...@ca...> - 2005-06-14 09:24:52
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Dear All I'm just back from the Sakai meeting in Baltimore. While there I had the thought that it would be interesting to do a scoping exercise on what it would take to get the code bases of Sakai and Bodington to converge (or what inter-operation strategies may be possible). Do you think this would be of interest to the Bodington community? We (Cambridge) could obviously do it from one side, but it seems to make sense to have those who understand the code intimately in each project compare notes. I imagine that were we to agree that (i) it would be possible and (ii) it would be desirable, then a project to converge the code would take around 12-18 months, but that may be a bit premature right now Please let me know what you think. John PS. This is my individual/Cambridge idea and not an official Sakai Project approach. Centre for Applied Research in Educational Technologies (CARET) University of Cambridge 16 Mill Lane Cambridge CB2 1SB +44-1223-765367 |
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From: Matthew B. <mat...@co...> - 2005-06-14 08:58:15
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Just in case anyone else sees this problem: In quite a few places in Bodington dates are formatted and displayed to the user. All these dates are formatted according to the default locale of the java platform which is normally picked up from the system settings. On Linux/UNIX the way to change the date formatting (and the system locale) is to set the LANG environmental variable before starting the servlet container. To have dates formatted for the UK use something like: export LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 I'm not so sure about Windows but I'm guessing that is you change your settings in the control panel Java should pick them up. -- +--Matthew Buckett-----------------------------------------+ | VLE Developer, Learning Technologies Group | | Tel: +44 (0) 1865 283660 http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ | +------------Computing Services, University of Oxford------+ |
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From: Alistair Y. <ali...@sm...> - 2005-06-13 14:11:49
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Adam, I sent a message to the list on 26/5 saying 1i8n was ready and including instructions on how to localise a template: http://www.weblogs.uhi.ac.uk/sm00ay/?p=3D90 not sure what the plan is to get the new templates into sf - perhaps someone may know? Alistair --=20 Alistair Young Senior Software Engineer UHI@Sabhal M=F2r Ostaig Isle of Skye Scotland > So what's happening about getting the UHI templates into SF and then > distributing instructions on how to internationalise and then doing the > edits? This task was supposed to run from 21 may - 7 june so we are > already > a week overdue and we haven't seen any templates yet! > > We're going to have institutional commitments soon which will prevent u= s > from helping out with the internationalisation. > > adam > > -- > Adam Marshall: OUCS, 13, Banbury Rd. Oxford OX2 6NN. > Shameless plug: Use the Bodington VLE http://bodington.org > Blog: http://ramble.oucs.ox.ac.uk/blog/adamm/ > Cheese of the month: Cheshire (not to be underestimated) > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How far can you > shotput > a projector? How fast can you ride your desk chair down the office luge > track? > If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. > Play to win an NEC 61" plasma display: http://www.necitguy.com/?r=3D20 > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > |
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From: Adam M. <ada...@co...> - 2005-06-13 13:45:20
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So what's happening about getting the UHI templates into SF and then distributing instructions on how to internationalise and then doing the edits? This task was supposed to run from 21 may - 7 june so we are already a week overdue and we haven't seen any templates yet! We're going to have institutional commitments soon which will prevent us from helping out with the internationalisation. adam -- Adam Marshall: OUCS, 13, Banbury Rd. Oxford OX2 6NN. Shameless plug: Use the Bodington VLE http://bodington.org Blog: http://ramble.oucs.ox.ac.uk/blog/adamm/ Cheese of the month: Cheshire (not to be underestimated) |
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From: Andrew B. <a.g...@le...> - 2005-06-13 11:20:53
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The restriction on database connections per user was introduced to cope = with those users who use web-hoovers to copy large chunks of the site. We had = a particularly persistent problem with an apparent denial of service = attack which emanated from a sixth form college in Manchester. I complained to = the head of IT at the college and it stopped. We later found out that one of = our dental students had asked her father to hoover all the content related = to her course. It later transpired that her father was, of course, the = head of IT at the sixth form college. Aggie -----Original Message----- From: bod...@li... [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of Matthew Buckett Sent: 13 June 2005 12:04 To: bod...@li... Subject: [Bodington-developers] Commons DBCP I was going to have a look at moving from our custom database connection pooling to common-dhcp (http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/dbcp/). Initially this work would be against WebLearn HEAD but I could push it across to Bodington HEAD. Currently org.bodington.database.ConnectionPool doesn't cope with a database restart while Bodington is still running and rather than adding support for this I though it might make more sense to replace it with a "standard" open source equivilent. With the move to commons-dhcp we also get things like custom connection validation. One feature I might have to reimplement (or throw away?) is the restriction of the number of database connections per user which o.b.d.ConnectionPool currently supports. Any comments? --=20 +--Matthew Buckett-----------------------------------------+ | VLE Developer, Learning Technologies Group | | Tel: +44 (0) 1865 283660 http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ | +------------Computing Services, University of Oxford------+ ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How far can you shotput a projector? How fast can you ride your desk chair down the office luge track? If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. =20 Play to win an NEC 61" plasma display: http://www.necitguy.com/?r=3D20 _______________________________________________ Bodington-developers mailing list Bod...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
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