Re: [Qucs-devel] Qucs plugin for GNUCap

[Richard C. <r.c...@ed...>]

> No it is not the future, we (as uni) still use cluster and merging gui
> and core is bad.
>
> Moreover becuse manufacturer still use spice we must still support spice.

I think there's a few things up for discussion in the long term, I can 
see some advantage from having the core solver, either gnucap or 
qucsator, have the ability to be built and linked as a library, rather 
than spawning a process, but there will always also be a standalone 
qucsator (and presumeably gnucap)provided. I also expect both simulators 
to continue to exist for quite some time in tandem, even if both are 
options as the backend simulator for Qucs.

I agree that we need to be able to support spice files, and I think 
gnucap supports this, and there are no plans to remove such support from 
Qucs.

Incidentally, If you are using qucsator on a cluster, are you not 
calling qucsator directly rather than going through Qucs? Do you just 
mean that you would not want to have to load the gui, as I said we 
always plan to retain the command line simulator.

>> Some background on this .......
>>
>> A while back I suggested that Gnucap and Qucs work together
>> because we can all benefit from it.  Gnucap has a lot of what
>> Qucs needs, and Qucs has a lot of what Gnucap needs.  As a first
>> step, I suggested that a plugin be developed to make it so
>> Gnucap can stand in for Qucsator.  Then we take another look and
>> see where to go from there.  I am well aware of what both
>> projects have and don't have, and NGspice too.
> Yes, a good step forward will be to output true xml from qucs gui in
> order to apply xslt and convert in gnucap file easilly.
>
> I plan to rewrite the core in order to digest directly xml instead of
> ugly netlist.

What exactly is wrong with the netlist format? I for one would much 
rather type by hand a netlist than an xml file. If you modify Qucs to 
take xml directly, this will have to be in addition to the netlist 
format, a new option, while still retaining the ability to parse the 
current netlist style.

Richard

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