From: Frans S. <fra...@gm...> - 2013-06-06 16:31:48
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Patents often don't make sense, and so do american laws. Well we don't have a web interface for now so we are safe. Frans Op 6 jun. 2013 18:18 schreef "McGuire, Chuck" <CMc...@hr...> het volgende: > cloud / web based simulation has been patented.... > > I'm very happy that QUCS is around to preempt patents like the one > referenced here. > > It seems some one else found out the hard way about Corporate Greed. > "Today I discovered that Transim, a subsidiary of Arrow Electronics has > filed a lawsuit against underdog iSchematics. The lawyers claim that US > Patent no. 6,530,065 is being violated." > check this link if you are so inclined. > > http://www.semiwiki.com/forum/content/2326-more-injustice-eda-lawsuits.html?goback=.gde_168048_member_238567239 > > > Chuck McGuire > HRL Laboratories > 310-317-5921 > ________________________________________ > From: quc...@li... [ > quc...@li...] > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 5:23 AM > To: quc...@li... > Subject: Qucs-devel Digest, Vol 58, Issue 3 > > Send Qucs-devel mailing list submissions to > quc...@li... > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/qucs-devel > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > quc...@li... > > You can reach the person managing the list at > quc...@li... > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Qucs-devel digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: [Fwd: QUCS is inspiring] (Richard Crozier) > 2. Re: [Fwd: QUCS is inspiring] (Frans Schreuder) > 3. Re: Supporting qucs development (Frans Schreuder) > 4. Re: [Fwd: QUCS is inspiring] (Christopher Covington) > 5. Re: [Fwd: QUCS is inspiring] (Frans Schreuder) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2013 11:43:12 +0100 > From: Richard Crozier <r.c...@ed...> > Subject: Re: [Qucs-devel] [Fwd: QUCS is inspiring] > To: nig...@na... > Cc: quc...@li... > Message-ID: <51B...@ed...> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi Anurag, > > It is very unlikely that the Qucs project would be interested in > switching to C# from C++, this would mean rewriting the entire code > base! Perhaps I've misunderstood your proposal. We would also not be > interested in switching to .NET in general, as it is a proprietary > framework, something you should be concerned about if you are becoming > worried about corporate greed. > > It is also pretty unlikely we would want to switch to a Metro look, > mainly because Qucs is cross-platform, and developed primarily in Linux, > but also because the Metro design is widely regarded as the worst > redesign Microsoft has ever done. > > However, if you would like to support the project in other ways, such as > contributing example schematics, device models etc, or building on the > existing code we would certainly welcome this. > > Regards, > Richard Crozier > Qucs team. > > > > On 04/06/2013 14:27, Stefan Jahn wrote: > > ---------------------------- Original Message > ---------------------------- > > Subject: QUCS is inspiring > > From: nig...@na... > > Date: Mon, June 3, 2013 4:35 pm > > To: st...@lk... > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Hi, > > My name is Anurag Nigam. I am RFIC, MMIC designer with 13 years of > > experience. By hobby I am a programmer. I have bench marked Agilent ADS > > from 1999 onwards when it was alpha and beta release. > > > > Recent trends in Corporate Greed has made Agilent ADS almost 3 to 4 times > > the cost it used to be. Now it is out of the reach of Student Community. > > Cadence was so from its inception itself. > > > > It has been my desire for past 5 years to see a simulator that works from > > phone tab or PC running as a service in Cloud rather than as simulator > > sitting on a PC. Honestly I am sick of corporate greed. > > > > So i am investigating a Metro Look for QUCS and Internals updated to C# > > for better memory management. > > > > I have Masters Degree in Satellite Technology and Diploma in .NET > > Technologies. I have done ADS PDKs for CMOS Process. > > > > I also happen to have FEM, MOM and FDTD code tested and validated. > > > > I am just introducing myself to you and i am not sure if my dream of > > affordable Simulator for all will come true but i am serious. Just to > > introduce myself and to offer myself in anyway you may think suitable I > am > > attaching my resume to this email > > > > Thanks > > Regards > > Anurag Nigam > > Director > > NatTel Microsystems Private Limited > > Goa, India > > +91 9158580922 > > www.nattelmicro.com > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: > > 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and operations > > 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services > > 3. A single system of record for all IT processes > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Qucs-devel mailing list > > Quc...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/qucs-devel > > -------------- next part -------------- > An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... > Name: not available > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2013 13:50:09 +0200 > From: Frans Schreuder <fra...@gm...> > Subject: Re: [Qucs-devel] [Fwd: QUCS is inspiring] > To: quc...@li..., nig...@na... > Message-ID: <51B...@gm...> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hi Anurag, > > I was just going to write exactly the same thing, but Richard was a > little faster. > I don't see the need for a C# port for qucs, because it would drop > support for linux and MacOSX. Also a metro interface is not something > the scientific world is waiting for I guess. > If you would like to help developing the software you are more than > welcome, there are a few bugs to be solved and also a lot of new > features to be implemented. > > Regards, > > Frans > > On 6-6-2013 12:43, Richard Crozier wrote: > > Hi Anurag, > > > > It is very unlikely that the Qucs project would be interested in > > switching to C# from C++, this would mean rewriting the entire code > > base! Perhaps I've misunderstood your proposal. We would also not be > > interested in switching to .NET in general, as it is a proprietary > > framework, something you should be concerned about if you are becoming > > worried about corporate greed. > > > > It is also pretty unlikely we would want to switch to a Metro look, > > mainly because Qucs is cross-platform, and developed primarily in > > Linux, but also because the Metro design is widely regarded as the > > worst redesign Microsoft has ever done. > > > > However, if you would like to support the project in other ways, such > > as contributing example schematics, device models etc, or building on > > the existing code we would certainly welcome this. > > > > Regards, > > Richard Crozier > > Qucs team. > > > > > > > > On 04/06/2013 14:27, Stefan Jahn wrote: > >> ---------------------------- Original Message > >> ---------------------------- > >> Subject: QUCS is inspiring > >> From: nig...@na... > >> Date: Mon, June 3, 2013 4:35 pm > >> To: st...@lk... > >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> > >> Hi, > >> My name is Anurag Nigam. I am RFIC, MMIC designer with 13 years of > >> experience. By hobby I am a programmer. I have bench marked Agilent ADS > >> from 1999 onwards when it was alpha and beta release. > >> > >> Recent trends in Corporate Greed has made Agilent ADS almost 3 to 4 > >> times > >> the cost it used to be. Now it is out of the reach of Student Community. > >> Cadence was so from its inception itself. > >> > >> It has been my desire for past 5 years to see a simulator that works > >> from > >> phone tab or PC running as a service in Cloud rather than as simulator > >> sitting on a PC. Honestly I am sick of corporate greed. > >> > >> So i am investigating a Metro Look for QUCS and Internals updated to C# > >> for better memory management. > >> > >> I have Masters Degree in Satellite Technology and Diploma in .NET > >> Technologies. I have done ADS PDKs for CMOS Process. > >> > >> I also happen to have FEM, MOM and FDTD code tested and validated. > >> > >> I am just introducing myself to you and i am not sure if my dream of > >> affordable Simulator for all will come true but i am serious. Just to > >> introduce myself and to offer myself in anyway you may think suitable > >> I am > >> attaching my resume to this email > >> > >> Thanks > >> Regards > >> Anurag Nigam > >> Director > >> NatTel Microsystems Private Limited > >> Goa, India > >> +91 9158580922 > >> www.nattelmicro.com > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> > >> How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: > >> 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and operations > >> 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services > >> 3. A single system of record for all IT processes > >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Qucs-devel mailing list > >> Quc...@li... > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/qucs-devel > > > > > > > > The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in > > Scotland, with registration number SC005336. > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: > > 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and operations > > 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services > > 3. A single system of record for all IT processes > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Qucs-devel mailing list > > Quc...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/qucs-devel > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2013 13:55:29 +0200 > From: Frans Schreuder <fra...@gm...> > Subject: Re: [Qucs-devel] Supporting qucs development > To: quc...@li... > Message-ID: <51B...@gm...> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Dear Paolo, > > I read your message now, I guess Stefan Jahn has released it just now > from the mailing list. I will subscribe to the admin interface so I can > release messages in the future. > You are very welcome to help! Qucs needs a lot of work to be done, > especially when it comes to example schematics and documentation. > Do you know how to write Latex documents? In that case you could make a > nice contribution to the tutorials, I think a tutorial about active > filters will also be appreciated. > If you have example schematics to share with us I can give you write > access to the git repository. > > Kind regards, > > Frans Schreuder > > On 12-5-2013 23:44, Paolo Fioravanti wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I am no programmer but I would like to see if I could contribute > something. > > I am an analog IC designer. > > > > .tutorials about how to use Qucs or design guides > > .example schematics > > .filter transformations: LC filters to active filters > > > > Best regards, > > Paolo Fioravanti > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: > > 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and operations > > 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services > > 3. A single system of record for all IT processes > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j > > _______________________________________________ > > Qucs-devel mailing list > > Quc...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/qucs-devel > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 08:12:58 -0400 > From: Christopher Covington <co...@vt...> > Subject: Re: [Qucs-devel] [Fwd: QUCS is inspiring] > To: Frans Schreuder <fra...@gm...> > Cc: nig...@na..., > "quc...@li..." < > quc...@li...> > Message-ID: > < > CAK...@ma...> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > If the right libraries were used, a C# port could run quite well on Linux > using Mono. It does seem like such a large undertaking, though, that > re-writing from scratch may actually be easier. I'd love to see a web > interface (I assume Windows 8 has a browser). I once toyed around with > using Wt for graphing data output by iverilog and crunched by GTKWave: > > http://eceapps.wordpress.com/2011/01/17/screenshot/ > > Cov > > > On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Frans Schreuder <fra...@gm... > >wrote: > > > Hi Anurag, > > > > I was just going to write exactly the same thing, but Richard was a > > little faster. > > I don't see the need for a C# port for qucs, because it would drop > > support for linux and MacOSX. Also a metro interface is not something > > the scientific world is waiting for I guess. > > If you would like to help developing the software you are more than > > welcome, there are a few bugs to be solved and also a lot of new > > features to be implemented. > > > > Regards, > > > > Frans > > > > On 6-6-2013 12:43, Richard Crozier wrote: > > > Hi Anurag, > > > > > > It is very unlikely that the Qucs project would be interested in > > > switching to C# from C++, this would mean rewriting the entire code > > > base! Perhaps I've misunderstood your proposal. We would also not be > > > interested in switching to .NET in general, as it is a proprietary > > > framework, something you should be concerned about if you are becoming > > > worried about corporate greed. > > > > > > It is also pretty unlikely we would want to switch to a Metro look, > > > mainly because Qucs is cross-platform, and developed primarily in > > > Linux, but also because the Metro design is widely regarded as the > > > worst redesign Microsoft has ever done. > > > > > > However, if you would like to support the project in other ways, such > > > as contributing example schematics, device models etc, or building on > > > the existing code we would certainly welcome this. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Richard Crozier > > > Qucs team. > > > > > > > > > > > > On 04/06/2013 14:27, Stefan Jahn wrote: > > >> ---------------------------- Original Message > > >> ---------------------------- > > >> Subject: QUCS is inspiring > > >> From: nig...@na... > > >> Date: Mon, June 3, 2013 4:35 pm > > >> To: st...@lk... > > >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> > > >> > > >> Hi, > > >> My name is Anurag Nigam. I am RFIC, MMIC designer with 13 years of > > >> experience. By hobby I am a programmer. I have bench marked Agilent > ADS > > >> from 1999 onwards when it was alpha and beta release. > > >> > > >> Recent trends in Corporate Greed has made Agilent ADS almost 3 to 4 > > >> times > > >> the cost it used to be. Now it is out of the reach of Student > Community. > > >> Cadence was so from its inception itself. > > >> > > >> It has been my desire for past 5 years to see a simulator that works > > >> from > > >> phone tab or PC running as a service in Cloud rather than as simulator > > >> sitting on a PC. Honestly I am sick of corporate greed. > > >> > > >> So i am investigating a Metro Look for QUCS and Internals updated to > C# > > >> for better memory management. > > >> > > >> I have Masters Degree in Satellite Technology and Diploma in .NET > > >> Technologies. I have done ADS PDKs for CMOS Process. > > >> > > >> I also happen to have FEM, MOM and FDTD code tested and validated. > > >> > > >> I am just introducing myself to you and i am not sure if my dream of > > >> affordable Simulator for all will come true but i am serious. Just to > > >> introduce myself and to offer myself in anyway you may think suitable > > >> I am > > >> attaching my resume to this email > > >> > > >> Thanks > > >> Regards > > >> Anurag Nigam > > >> Director > > >> NatTel Microsystems Private Limited > > >> Goa, India > > >> +91 9158580922 > > >> www.nattelmicro.com > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >> > > >> How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: > > >> 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and operations > > >> 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services > > >> 3. A single system of record for all IT processes > > >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Qucs-devel mailing list > > >> Quc...@li... > > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/qucs-devel > > > > > > > > > > > > The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in > > > Scotland, with registration number SC005336. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: > > > 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and operations > > > 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services > > > 3. A single system of record for all IT processes > > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Qucs-devel mailing list > > > Quc...@li... > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/qucs-devel > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: > > 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and operations > > 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services > > 3. A single system of record for all IT processes > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j > > _______________________________________________ > > Qucs-devel mailing list > > Quc...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/qucs-devel > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2013 14:23:30 +0200 > From: Frans Schreuder <fra...@gm...> > Subject: Re: [Qucs-devel] [Fwd: QUCS is inspiring] > To: Christopher Covington <co...@vt...> > Cc: nig...@na..., > "quc...@li..." < > quc...@li...> > Message-ID: <51B...@gm...> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > No, just No. > > ...we have already given some arguments and I think we should end this > discussion before it starts becoming one. > Mono is not the way to go, we don't like porting everything because that > would take to much time, C# is a proprietary language (even though there > is a mono library that is a little compatible with .NET) > If you want a nice web interface, such things can be done using Qt as > well or indeed Wt. I don't see the need for a web interface because > people could just install qucs locally. If you want to have it on your > tablet or your iphone with a web interface, why not just use VNC or > something. You will need a server running qucs anyway. > > Frans > > On 6-6-2013 14:12, Christopher Covington wrote: > > If the right libraries were used, a C# port could run quite well on > > Linux using Mono. It does seem like such a large undertaking, though, > > that re-writing from scratch may actually be easier. I'd love to see a > > web interface (I assume Windows 8 has a browser). I once toyed around > > with using Wt for graphing data output by iverilog and crunched by > > GTKWave: > > > > http://eceapps.wordpress.com/2011/01/17/screenshot/ > > > > Cov > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Frans Schreuder > > <fra...@gm... <mailto:fra...@gm...>> wrote: > > > > Hi Anurag, > > > > I was just going to write exactly the same thing, but Richard was a > > little faster. > > I don't see the need for a C# port for qucs, because it would drop > > support for linux and MacOSX. Also a metro interface is not something > > the scientific world is waiting for I guess. > > If you would like to help developing the software you are more than > > welcome, there are a few bugs to be solved and also a lot of new > > features to be implemented. > > > > Regards, > > > > Frans > > > > On 6-6-2013 12:43, Richard Crozier wrote: > > > Hi Anurag, > > > > > > It is very unlikely that the Qucs project would be interested in > > > switching to C# from C++, this would mean rewriting the entire code > > > base! Perhaps I've misunderstood your proposal. We would also not > be > > > interested in switching to .NET in general, as it is a proprietary > > > framework, something you should be concerned about if you are > > becoming > > > worried about corporate greed. > > > > > > It is also pretty unlikely we would want to switch to a Metro look, > > > mainly because Qucs is cross-platform, and developed primarily in > > > Linux, but also because the Metro design is widely regarded as the > > > worst redesign Microsoft has ever done. > > > > > > However, if you would like to support the project in other ways, > > such > > > as contributing example schematics, device models etc, or > > building on > > > the existing code we would certainly welcome this. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Richard Crozier > > > Qucs team. > > > > > > > > > > > > On 04/06/2013 14:27, Stefan Jahn wrote: > > >> ---------------------------- Original Message > > >> ---------------------------- > > >> Subject: QUCS is inspiring > > >> From: nig...@na... > > <mailto:nig...@na...> > > >> Date: Mon, June 3, 2013 4:35 pm > > >> To: st...@lk... <mailto:st...@lk...> > > >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> > > >> > > >> Hi, > > >> My name is Anurag Nigam. I am RFIC, MMIC designer with 13 years of > > >> experience. By hobby I am a programmer. I have bench marked > > Agilent ADS > > >> from 1999 onwards when it was alpha and beta release. > > >> > > >> Recent trends in Corporate Greed has made Agilent ADS almost 3 to > 4 > > >> times > > >> the cost it used to be. Now it is out of the reach of Student > > Community. > > >> Cadence was so from its inception itself. > > >> > > >> It has been my desire for past 5 years to see a simulator that > > works > > >> from > > >> phone tab or PC running as a service in Cloud rather than as > > simulator > > >> sitting on a PC. Honestly I am sick of corporate greed. > > >> > > >> So i am investigating a Metro Look for QUCS and Internals > > updated to C# > > >> for better memory management. > > >> > > >> I have Masters Degree in Satellite Technology and Diploma in .NET > > >> Technologies. I have done ADS PDKs for CMOS Process. > > >> > > >> I also happen to have FEM, MOM and FDTD code tested and validated. > > >> > > >> I am just introducing myself to you and i am not sure if my > > dream of > > >> affordable Simulator for all will come true but i am serious. > > Just to > > >> introduce myself and to offer myself in anyway you may think > > suitable > > >> I am > > >> attaching my resume to this email > > >> > > >> Thanks > > >> Regards > > >> Anurag Nigam > > >> Director > > >> NatTel Microsystems Private Limited > > >> Goa, India > > >> +91 9158580922 <tel:%2B91%209158580922> > > >> www.nattelmicro.com <http://www.nattelmicro.com> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >> > > >> How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: > > >> 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and > operations > > >> 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services > > >> 3. A single system of record for all IT processes > > >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Qucs-devel mailing list > > >> Quc...@li... > > <mailto:Quc...@li...> > > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/qucs-devel > > > > > > > > > > > > The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in > > > Scotland, with registration number SC005336. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: > > > 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and operations > > > 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services > > > 3. A single system of record for all IT processes > > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Qucs-devel mailing list > > > Quc...@li... > > <mailto:Quc...@li...> > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/qucs-devel > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: > > 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and operations > > 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services > > 3. A single system of record for all IT processes > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j > > _______________________________________________ > > Qucs-devel mailing list > > Quc...@li... > > <mailto:Quc...@li...> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/qucs-devel > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: > 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and operations > 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services > 3. 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