Re[3]: [Mingw-users] [mingw] Hosting the mingw mailing list on sources.redhat.com

[Paul S. <pa...@is...>]

Hello Tor,

Tor Lillqvist <tm...@ik...> wrote:

>> But since it's GNU target

TL> Umm, please explain more in detail in which way mingw32 is a GNU
TL> target.

    For informal answer, ask Colin Peters or Mumit Khan - they chose
name Minimalist GNU-Win32. For me, it's enough that there's official
GNU architecture tripple for it, i386-unknown-mingw32, and very
software which is heart of mingw32 distribution built using
--host=mingw32 --target=mingw32 .

TL> Isn't mingw more a build environment, and not a target?  The
TL> target is native Win32, with msvcrt (or crtdll) Microsoft C
TL> runtime. The little mingw runtime library there is is explicitly not
TL> Open Source (GPL, LGPL or otherwise), but in the public domain.

    Please do not pick on words, or rather letters, or rather their
case. Also, to be picking from my side, I have a feeling that you
confuse w32api library, part of minfw32, with mingw32 at whole.

    But my intention not to start a flame, but rather to convey my
opinion that this maillist's topic wider than discussing "little mingw
runtime library" and even wider than "Windows here not Windows 'unix
clone"". I dislike separatism dendencies, especially when there's
hardly something to divide. I hope you all read essays on open source
community (well, on people who use software products, at least some of
which distributed with source available), it is often compared with
guys kicking each other. In application to GNU/Win32 (note - when you
use mingw32, you use *GNU* C and C++ compiler), there were single
maillist where all could be talked about, and full-blown mingw32
started there, too. Since cygwin people said 'out' to discussions not
directly related to cygwin (and they had reason - there huge traffic),
this list is only bulwark of free GNU/Win32 thought. And we should not
push each other aside.

TL> --tml


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