Re: [Mingw-msys] Mingw-install-20060210 has released

[haibin z. <dr...@ya...>]

--- Keith MARSHALL <kei...@to...>写道:

> Haibin Zhang wrote, quoting me:
> >> As Earnie and I have both pointed out, it's your
> monolithic
> >> packaging format that we object to, not what you
> provide in
> >> your package.  Any user who needs those latest
> versions of
> >> the autotools, or gettext, will be well capable
> of updating
> >> their own installations, using our mingwPORTs.
> >
> > This is a temporary schema, If I have time, I will
> package it
> > as cygwin install.exe. so that many people can
> upgrade mingw
> > as cygwin.
> 
> I hope you mean "like cygwin", rather than "as
> cygwin"; I don't
> think the Cygwin folks will be too enamoured of you
> trying to
> replace a Cygwin install with a MinGW rip-off.  Nor
> will we be
> best pleased, if upgrading a MinGW installation
> turns it into
> Cygwin.  (That aside, there is already significant
> co-operation
> between the Cygwin and MinGW projects).
> 
> >> If you *really* want to assist those users who
> you say need
> >> your package, then why not offer them an even
> better service,
> >> by helping us to keep the appropriate mingwPORTs
> up to date,
> >> instead of creating yet another software
> distribution?
> >
> > I think that if you spend much time to update
> mingwPORTS, maybe
> > you can create a intall.exe like cygwin.  Sorry,
> maybe I am wrong,
> > maybe I don't understand mingwPORTS.
> 
> We like the mingwPORT concept, because it allows
> users to select
> those packages they want/need, download the PORT
> file, and run
> `mingwPORT.sh' to handle the details of downloading,
> building
> and installing the required package, while also
> optimising it to
> best fit their own system configuration.
> 
> In many respects, each mingwPORT is like a mini
> installer, with
> each one dedicated to its own optional add-on
> package for a MinGW
> or MSYS system.  Certainly, there isn't currently
> any single
> integrated installer, which can handle both a basic
> MinGW
> installation, and also manage the optional add-ons. 
> It would be
> nice to offer one, but that needs development
> effort, which in
> turn needs time, and that is a scarce commodity. 
> That would
> appear to be your goal, but isn't your effort
> misdirected?
> Instead of impatiently going it alone, wouldn't you
> be better
> working *with* us, to achieve that goal?  Together
> we could
> achieve so much more than we can each produce
> independently.
> I have no issue with letting you join the MinGW
> Developer Team,
> and allowing you to participate in development
> discussions.
> We already have a couple of developers, with an
> interest in
> installers; why not share your ideas with them?  But
> please,
> show some patience; you must give us an opportunity
> to review
> your work, *before* we adopt it into MinGW, or give
> you carte
> blanche to upload to our project pages.

Thank you Keith, If I have some idea of mingw, I will
first share with mingw group !

regards

Zhang haibin


> Regards,
> Keith.
> 
> 
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