From: John C. <joh...@ua...> - 2005-02-15 15:52:48
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Single source to HTML, Compiled HTML Help, PDF, and other formats. I have a tool chain that goes from phpwiki -> docbook -> Compiled HTML Help && PDF The Docbook stylesheets auto creates TOCs and a lot of other nice typographical things. Once you have things running, it's very nice to have it all working. Docbook is a great way to go no matter how you create it or store it (we store released manuals in docbook xml format in cvs). John Cole -----Original Message----- From: man...@li... [mailto:man...@li...] On Behalf Of Kenzaburo Ito Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 9:45 AM To: man...@li... Subject: RE: [Mantisbt-dev] Mantis manual ? What does DocBook give us besides CVS storage? -Ken > Hi Kristis, > >> Where is the actualy Mantis manual content ? How can one submit a patch >> to it ? I don't see the content itself in CVS anywhere. > > The actual manual content is now in a MySQL database that can be accessed > via the web at http://manual.mantisbt.org. The way to submit patches > against it is by submitting notes. > > I have been thinking about moving the manual to DocBook standard. This > will > allow it to live in CVS and easily be updated via patches and as part of > development tasks by developers. > > Ideas are welcome regarding this issue. Also if someone would like to > volunteer some time to help with this conversion, please let me know. > > Ideally we should achieve the following: > > - Use DocBook standard and store the manual in CVS. > > - Select a tool to use for generation of the manual in different formats > under Windows / Linux (can be different tools). > > - Select a tool to use for editing of the manual on both Windows / Linux. > Obviously a text editor is an option, however, for people who are new to > Docbook, a tool which has inteli-sense like feature would be helpfool. > Ideally, such tool should preserve the xml to minimise the diff changes > when > the changes are delivered into CVS. > > - All tools used must be open source or freeware. > > - Develop styles (or use standard ones) to be used for the generation of > PDF > as well as the online version. The online version should also support the > notes feature to allow users to provide feedback. > > - Convert the current manual content (manually or automatically) to > Docbook > format. > > - Enhance the quality of the manual. > > - Publish a snapshot of the manual with Mantis releases. This can be in > PDF > or HTML format. > > Regards, > Victor. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click > _______________________________________________ > Mantisbt-dev mailing list > Man...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mantisbt-dev > ------------------------------------------------------- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click _______________________________________________ Mantisbt-dev mailing list Man...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mantisbt-dev ------------------------------------- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. |
From: Shaffer, C. <Chris.Shaffer@BellSouth.com> - 2005-02-15 18:56:02
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"I have a tool chain that goes from phpwiki -> docbook -> Compiled HTML Help && PDF..." What tool's are those, and where do I get them? I'd be interested in seeing that in action. Chris Shaffer -----Original Message----- From: man...@li... [mailto:man...@li...] On Behalf Of John Cole Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 10:53 AM To: 'man...@li...' Subject: RE: [Mantisbt-dev] Mantis manual ? Single source to HTML, Compiled HTML Help, PDF, and other formats. I have a tool chain that goes from phpwiki -> docbook -> Compiled HTML Help && PDF =20 The Docbook stylesheets auto creates TOCs and a lot of other nice typographical things. Once you have things running, it's very nice to have it all working. Docbook is a great way to go no matter how you create it or store it (we store released manuals in docbook xml format in cvs). John Cole -----Original Message----- From: man...@li... [mailto:man...@li...] On Behalf Of Kenzaburo Ito Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 9:45 AM To: man...@li... Subject: RE: [Mantisbt-dev] Mantis manual ? What does DocBook give us besides CVS storage? -Ken > Hi Kristis, > >> Where is the actualy Mantis manual content ? How can one submit a=20 >> patch to it ? I don't see the content itself in CVS anywhere. > > The actual manual content is now in a MySQL database that can be=20 > accessed via the web at http://manual.mantisbt.org. The way to submit > patches against it is by submitting notes. > > I have been thinking about moving the manual to DocBook standard. =20 > This will allow it to live in CVS and easily be updated via patches=20 > and as part of development tasks by developers. > > Ideas are welcome regarding this issue. Also if someone would like to > volunteer some time to help with this conversion, please let me know. > > Ideally we should achieve the following: > > - Use DocBook standard and store the manual in CVS. > > - Select a tool to use for generation of the manual in different=20 > formats under Windows / Linux (can be different tools). > > - Select a tool to use for editing of the manual on both Windows /=20 > Linux. Obviously a text editor is an option, however, for people who=20 > are new to Docbook, a tool which has inteli-sense like feature would=20 > be helpfool. Ideally, such tool should preserve the xml to minimise=20 > the diff changes when the changes are delivered into CVS. > > - All tools used must be open source or freeware. > > - Develop styles (or use standard ones) to be used for the generation=20 > of PDF as well as the online version. The online version should also=20 > support the notes feature to allow users to provide feedback. > > - Convert the current manual content (manually or automatically) to=20 > Docbook format. > > - Enhance the quality of the manual. > > - Publish a snapshot of the manual with Mantis releases. This can be=20 > in PDF or HTML format. > > Regards, > Victor. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real=20 > users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. 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From: John C. <joh...@ua...> - 2005-02-15 20:55:57
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Ok, I put a page up on the PhpWiki site. http://phpwiki.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/DocBook/XsltStylesheet I tried to put up most of our internal instructions for using the xsl file. John -----Original Message----- From: man...@li... [mailto:man...@li...] On Behalf Of Shaffer, Chris Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 12:55 PM To: man...@li... Subject: RE: [Mantisbt-dev] Mantis manual ? "I have a tool chain that goes from phpwiki -> docbook -> Compiled HTML Help && PDF..." What tool's are those, and where do I get them? I'd be interested in seeing that in action. Chris Shaffer -----Original Message----- From: man...@li... [mailto:man...@li...] On Behalf Of John Cole Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 10:53 AM To: 'man...@li...' Subject: RE: [Mantisbt-dev] Mantis manual ? Single source to HTML, Compiled HTML Help, PDF, and other formats. I have a tool chain that goes from phpwiki -> docbook -> Compiled HTML Help && PDF The Docbook stylesheets auto creates TOCs and a lot of other nice typographical things. Once you have things running, it's very nice to have it all working. Docbook is a great way to go no matter how you create it or store it (we store released manuals in docbook xml format in cvs). John Cole -----Original Message----- From: man...@li... [mailto:man...@li...] On Behalf Of Kenzaburo Ito Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 9:45 AM To: man...@li... Subject: RE: [Mantisbt-dev] Mantis manual ? What does DocBook give us besides CVS storage? -Ken > Hi Kristis, > >> Where is the actualy Mantis manual content ? How can one submit a >> patch to it ? I don't see the content itself in CVS anywhere. > > The actual manual content is now in a MySQL database that can be > accessed via the web at http://manual.mantisbt.org. The way to submit > patches against it is by submitting notes. > > I have been thinking about moving the manual to DocBook standard. > This will allow it to live in CVS and easily be updated via patches > and as part of development tasks by developers. > > Ideas are welcome regarding this issue. Also if someone would like to > volunteer some time to help with this conversion, please let me know. > > Ideally we should achieve the following: > > - Use DocBook standard and store the manual in CVS. > > - Select a tool to use for generation of the manual in different > formats under Windows / Linux (can be different tools). > > - Select a tool to use for editing of the manual on both Windows / > Linux. Obviously a text editor is an option, however, for people who > are new to Docbook, a tool which has inteli-sense like feature would > be helpfool. Ideally, such tool should preserve the xml to minimise > the diff changes when the changes are delivered into CVS. > > - All tools used must be open source or freeware. > > - Develop styles (or use standard ones) to be used for the generation > of PDF as well as the online version. The online version should also > support the notes feature to allow users to provide feedback. > > - Convert the current manual content (manually or automatically) to > Docbook format. > > - Enhance the quality of the manual. > > - Publish a snapshot of the manual with Mantis releases. This can be > in PDF or HTML format. > > Regards, > Victor. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real > users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start > reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click > _______________________________________________ > Mantisbt-dev mailing list > Man...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mantisbt-dev > ------------------------------------------------------- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click _______________________________________________ Mantisbt-dev mailing list Man...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mantisbt-dev ------------------------------------- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. 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From: Shaffer, C. <Chris.Shaffer@BellSouth.com> - 2005-02-16 12:50:40
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John Thanks... Looks very interesting. Chris Shaffer -----Original Message----- From: man...@li... [mailto:man...@li...] On Behalf Of John Cole Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 3:56 PM To: 'man...@li...' Subject: RE: [Mantisbt-dev] Mantis manual ? Ok, I put a page up on the PhpWiki site. http://phpwiki.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/DocBook/XsltStylesheet I tried to put up most of our internal instructions for using the xsl file. John -----Original Message----- From: man...@li... [mailto:man...@li...] On Behalf Of Shaffer, Chris Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 12:55 PM To: man...@li... Subject: RE: [Mantisbt-dev] Mantis manual ? "I have a tool chain that goes from phpwiki -> docbook -> Compiled HTML Help && PDF..." What tool's are those, and where do I get them? I'd be interested in seeing that in action. Chris Shaffer -----Original Message----- From: man...@li... [mailto:man...@li...] On Behalf Of John Cole Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 10:53 AM To: 'man...@li...' Subject: RE: [Mantisbt-dev] Mantis manual ? Single source to HTML, Compiled HTML Help, PDF, and other formats. I have a tool chain that goes from phpwiki -> docbook -> Compiled HTML Help && PDF =20 The Docbook stylesheets auto creates TOCs and a lot of other nice typographical things. Once you have things running, it's very nice to have it all working. Docbook is a great way to go no matter how you create it or store it (we store released manuals in docbook xml format in cvs). John Cole -----Original Message----- From: man...@li... [mailto:man...@li...] On Behalf Of Kenzaburo Ito Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 9:45 AM To: man...@li... Subject: RE: [Mantisbt-dev] Mantis manual ? What does DocBook give us besides CVS storage? -Ken > Hi Kristis, > >> Where is the actualy Mantis manual content ? How can one submit a >> patch to it ? I don't see the content itself in CVS anywhere. > > The actual manual content is now in a MySQL database that can be > accessed via the web at http://manual.mantisbt.org. The way to submit > patches against it is by submitting notes. > > I have been thinking about moving the manual to DocBook standard. > This will allow it to live in CVS and easily be updated via patches=20 > and as part of development tasks by developers. > > Ideas are welcome regarding this issue. Also if someone would like to > volunteer some time to help with this conversion, please let me know. > > Ideally we should achieve the following: > > - Use DocBook standard and store the manual in CVS. > > - Select a tool to use for generation of the manual in different > formats under Windows / Linux (can be different tools). > > - Select a tool to use for editing of the manual on both Windows / > Linux. Obviously a text editor is an option, however, for people who=20 > are new to Docbook, a tool which has inteli-sense like feature would=20 > be helpfool. Ideally, such tool should preserve the xml to minimise=20 > the diff changes when the changes are delivered into CVS. > > - All tools used must be open source or freeware. > > - Develop styles (or use standard ones) to be used for the generation > of PDF as well as the online version. The online version should also=20 > support the notes feature to allow users to provide feedback. > > - Convert the current manual content (manually or automatically) to > Docbook format. > > - Enhance the quality of the manual. > > - Publish a snapshot of the manual with Mantis releases. This can be > in PDF or HTML format. > > Regards, > Victor. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real > users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start=20 > reading now. = http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3D6595&alloc_id=3D14396&op=3Dclick > _______________________________________________ > Mantisbt-dev mailing list > Man...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mantisbt-dev > ------------------------------------------------------- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3D6595&alloc_id=3D14396&op=3Dclick _______________________________________________ Mantisbt-dev mailing list Man...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mantisbt-dev ------------------------------------- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. 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From: Kenzaburo I. <ke...@30...> - 2005-02-15 17:27:14
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Since either method can probably be modified to output the same material, I see the fundamental issue as whether people will update the manual more using the current manual format or docbook. Docbook will obviously require a decent amount of effort to implement so there should be enough desire and advantages to make the decision 'easy'. I'm fairly resistant to the idea at the moment. All the DocBooks I've ever seen are, while functional, bland and sterile and aren't setup the way I'd want. One significant item that I see in DocBook's favor is the ability to do mass search/replaces when editing content. That's definitely not easily done with db storage of the manual data. Thanks, -Ken > Single source to HTML, Compiled HTML Help, PDF, and other formats. I have > a > tool chain that goes from phpwiki -> docbook -> Compiled HTML Help && PDF > > The Docbook stylesheets auto creates TOCs and a lot of other nice > typographical things. > > Once you have things running, it's very nice to have it all working. > Docbook is a great way to go no matter how you create it or store it (we > store released manuals in docbook xml format in cvs). > > John Cole |
From: Robert F. <rf...@mo...> - 2005-02-15 22:25:32
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Can you point me in the direction of a HOWTO for setting this kind of = thing up? I have a project that is starting to require a Use Manual in CHTM, = and this sounds like just the ticket... Rob. -----Original Message----- From: man...@li... [mailto:man...@li...] On Behalf Of John Cole Sent: Wednesday, 16 February 2005 2:53 AM To: 'man...@li...' Subject: RE: [Mantisbt-dev] Mantis manual ? Single source to HTML, Compiled HTML Help, PDF, and other formats. I = have a tool chain that goes from phpwiki -> docbook -> Compiled HTML Help && = PDF =20 The Docbook stylesheets auto creates TOCs and a lot of other nice typographical things. Once you have things running, it's very nice to have it all working. = Docbook is a great way to go no matter how you create it or store it (we store released manuals in docbook xml format in cvs). John Cole -----Original Message----- From: man...@li... [mailto:man...@li...] On Behalf Of Kenzaburo = Ito Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 9:45 AM To: man...@li... Subject: RE: [Mantisbt-dev] Mantis manual ? What does DocBook give us besides CVS storage? -Ken > Hi Kristis, > >> Where is the actualy Mantis manual content ? How can one submit a=20 >> patch to it ? I don't see the content itself in CVS anywhere. > > The actual manual content is now in a MySQL database that can be=20 > accessed via the web at http://manual.mantisbt.org. The way to submit = > patches against it is by submitting notes. > > I have been thinking about moving the manual to DocBook standard. =20 > This will allow it to live in CVS and easily be updated via patches=20 > and as part of development tasks by developers. > > Ideas are welcome regarding this issue. Also if someone would like to = > volunteer some time to help with this conversion, please let me know. > > Ideally we should achieve the following: > > - Use DocBook standard and store the manual in CVS. > > - Select a tool to use for generation of the manual in different=20 > formats under Windows / Linux (can be different tools). > > - Select a tool to use for editing of the manual on both Windows /=20 > Linux. Obviously a text editor is an option, however, for people who=20 > are new to Docbook, a tool which has inteli-sense like feature would=20 > be helpfool. Ideally, such tool should preserve the xml to minimise=20 > the diff changes when the changes are delivered into CVS. > > - All tools used must be open source or freeware. > > - Develop styles (or use standard ones) to be used for the generation=20 > of PDF as well as the online version. The online version should also=20 > support the notes feature to allow users to provide feedback. > > - Convert the current manual content (manually or automatically) to=20 > Docbook format. > > - Enhance the quality of the manual. > > - Publish a snapshot of the manual with Mantis releases. This can be=20 > in PDF or HTML format. > > Regards, > Victor. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real=20 > users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start=20 > reading now. = http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3D6595&alloc_id=3D14396&op=3Dclick > _______________________________________________ > Mantisbt-dev mailing list > Man...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mantisbt-dev > ------------------------------------------------------- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3D6595&alloc_id=3D14396&op=3Dclick _______________________________________________ Mantisbt-dev mailing list Man...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mantisbt-dev ------------------------------------- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and = intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are = addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system = manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for = the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. ------------------------------------------------------- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3D6595&alloc_id=3D14396&op=3Dclick _______________________________________________ Mantisbt-dev mailing list Man...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mantisbt-dev |