Re: [Lmms-users] [LMMS-devel] Wake LMMS up!

[Jonathan A. <eag...@gm...>]

Toby have you considered making the master git repo based off the 0.4.x
branch?
On 9 Jan 2014 22:44, "Devin Venable" <ven...@gm...> wrote:

> Thanks Tobias!  The move to github will be a real boost for new
> development.
>
> Great move!
>
> Devin
>
>
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> On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Tobias Doerffel <tob...@gm...
> > wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> thank you all for your helpful and diverse input! I also agree with most
>> of what has been said. Even though I do have time to contribute to LMMS I
>> do not have the time for being the only primary developer, which has been a
>> severe problem in the past. It's true that the Git repositories on
>> Sourceforge are not very visible and thus it's hard to attract new
>> developers, so I'd prefer the Github solution as well. To make an immediate
>> start, I just created a development space on github.com/lmms with a
>> repository at github.com/lmms/lmms (currently uploading branches).
>> Hopefully this will ease collaborative development alot and allow easy
>> management of pull requests. I'm willing to continue managing development
>> on Github however I'd vote for choosing someone else as project manager who
>> does not only coordinate development but all the aspects that were
>> mentioned in this thread.
>>
>> Nevertheless this will not solve problems with patches which we simply
>> can't accept due to the code quality. I know that much of the historically
>> grown code is a mess too, but many patches in the past did not even meet
>> basic coding style guidelines (
>> http://lmms.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Guidelines_on_coding_style)
>> and often the visual integration into the existing UI has not been
>> satisfying. So what we definitely need is a team of UI designers!
>>
>> Another oberservation I recently made: rolling-releases are the only way
>> to go. When we started the stable 0.4 series we branched off the master
>> branch and basically overloaded it with new features and massive changes
>> leading to a completely diverged source code base. Thus bug fixes to the
>> stable-0.4 series began to be lost in the master branch. Today the master
>> branch is a mess and IMHO it's not suitable for stabilization anymore. I
>> therefore recently started to pick all the goodies from it and backport it
>> to different branches based on the 0.4 series (done so far: improved
>> undo/redo support, new FX mixer with sends etc.). This way we can stabilize
>> features individually and merge them little by little into continuous
>> releases. For the next release it's probably a good idea to stabilize what
>> has been integrated recently. The release afterwards should integrate the
>> improved undo/redo support, the new logo (I think proposal 2 in the
>> discussion one year ago got the most votes) and maybe already the new FX
>> mixer. I also like the proposal to rename SongEditor to Sequencer and
>> B+B-Editor to "Pattern Editor". We need terminology consistency in other
>> places as well (e.g. "tacts" -> "bars").
>>
>> What I'm planning to backport in the future (as it once has been
>> developed by me):
>>
>> - new settings dialog
>> - Resources framework for locality-independent usage of resources (audio
>> files, project files, presets, ...)
>> - welcome screen
>> - new ProjectRenderer
>>
>> To be taken care of soon:
>> - new UI concepts for abandoning most of the MDI stuff by making central
>> components have a fixed place with easy collapsing possibilities
>>
>> About communication: for development purposes, I still prefer mailing
>> lists over forums or similiar as management of messages etc. is much
>> easier. As soon as the new development on Github is gaining momentum,
>> certainly much of the communication will happen on this platform directly.
>>
>> As for the name I'd stick with LMMS as well but get rid of "Linux
>> MultiMedia Studio". However I'd leave a final decision up to a new project
>> manager and/or an extensive survey.
>>
>> One more thought: IMHO we never claimed LMMS to be a real professional
>> DAW. We aim at hobby and semi-professional users. We surely can satisfy
>> their needs if LMMS development gains new momentum this year.
>>
>> So far..
>>
>> Toby
>>
>>
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