Re: [ jEdit-devel ] more fundamental text area questions

[Jim <jim...@po...>]

Hi Steve,

>Hi Jim,
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>Bear in mind that jEdit was designed as a programmer's text editor, not as a
>general word processor. Text editors are, by nature, "line-centric".
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>Having said that, I would not discourage you from adding voice capabilities to
>jEdit. This would certainly improve jEdit's accessibility by those without use
>of their hands, carpal tunnel, etc. Definitely a good thing!

Thanks for the encouragement.  At the very least, voice can be used to 
activate commands of jEdit, and to activate macros, etc while 
programming.  You're right, saving keystrokes is a good thing for many 
people.  I was just hoping so much to be able to jEdit as my sole editor - 
which would mean a wrappable text area - but like I said, that might be 
asking too much.


>Also, you may want to discuss with Slava how the text area is to be 
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>in the upcoming jEdit 4.0. With a new major version, this may be the best time
>to incorporate the sorts of interfaces that could potentially accommodate a
>project like yours.

That's true..  Although being so new to jEdit I don't yet feel it's my 
place to make such fundamental suggestions - surely those involved with 4.0 
have already major design considerations they are working with..

But thanks for the positive feedback.  Maybe I'll release what I have 
sometime soon.

Jim




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>Jim <jim...@po...> on 09/21/2001 01:07:15 PM
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>Hi,
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>As a follow-on to my question about down horizontal scrolling of the
>JEditTextArea, I did a little more research. I'm not optimistic about the
>possibility of the JEditTextArea supporting less newline-centric files such
>as I mentioned (ie, for word processing where only paragraphs are
>terminated by newlines).  I very much hope that someone will tell me I've
>just missed one simple method call somewhere...
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>So my next thought was that I would try to, for specified file types,
>replace the JEditTextArea with perhaps a subclass of one of the Swing text
>areas, which support the desired functionality. But this doesn't look very
>realistic either. While jEdit supports much of the MVC concept - I mean,
>there is indeed a separation between the model and the views - it
>unfortunately does not make enough use of interfaces at any of these
>junctions.  Thus it is not so easy, if not impossible without changing tons
>of code, to replace one "view" (in the MVC sense of the word) with another,
>and thus eliminating one of the stronger points of MVC architecture -
>namely, the ability to swap out one piece for another.
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>Am I mistaken about this?  I hope I am.  Is jEdit simply meant to be a
>line-centric editing tool, and perhaps I'm trying to push it too
>far?  Perhaps nobody has interest in using it for anything other than
>"source" and "txt" editor.
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>I've not gotten any feedback about voice capabilities when I've mentioned
>it in the past, so maybe I'm just wasting my time. But it seems a shame,
>because while I still have another swing-based editor, jEdit is so far
>superior that it would be nice to leverage it.  And, even if not in this
>dev list, rest assured there are many speech recognition users out there,
>and making jEdit JSAPI enabled would seem to be a nice addition.
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>Any feedback at all would be very very welcome,
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>Jim
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