Re: [Audacity-devel] More fun today: Pop-up menus for the vertical ruler in waveform tracks

[Paul L. <pau...@gm...>]

If the objection is not to having the menu but only to using right-click to
open it, then what is the alternative?  The track menu is opened by
left-click on track name.  It is not so obvious where I would have room to
draw a new button and make it clear that it is associated with the vertical
ruler.


On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 2:40 PM, Paul Licameli <pau...@gm...>
wrote:

> Noted, one vote against.  This can be easily reverted.  I will do so if
> that is the preponderance of other opinions.
>
> Against this objection I would say that new users coming to Audacity would
> instead expect to use right click as the way to discover actions with
> context menus, which is a widespread convention among other programs, but
> Audacity uses too few.  I do something to remedy that and improve
> Audacity's ease of use for those with expectations shaped by other programs.
>
> Millions may use Audacity, but it does not follow that millions regularly
> use every feature, or even that the most experienced users do.  Speaking
> only for myself, I tend to use left-drag and shift-right-click in the
> rulers, and would not miss the right click for twofold zooming out.
>
> If we ever want the vertical ruler to switch between level or dB labelling
> independently of scale, or in spectrum views to give options like labelling
> by the musical note instead of frequency -- then this popup would be a good
> place to put that choice too so that it is easily discoverable.
>
> Steve has not objected yet to View Settings... , the more varied spectrum
> scales, and the improvements to Pitch view.  That project was inseparable
> from reducing the view types in the menu down to three or even as now two
> -- the alternative was unreasonable lengthening of the menu.  The switching
> between spectrogram and waveform will still be easy with two keystrokes but
> I made it more difficult to switch between what we used to call waveform
> and "waveform dB" or between what we once called spectrogram and
> "spectrogram log F".  You need to open Preferences or View Settings... for
> that.
>
> By making the right mouse popup menu, I make it easier again, to switch
> among the different view scales of the two main view types.
>
> PRL
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Steve the Fiddle <
> ste...@gm...> wrote:
>
>> On 28 July 2015 at 14:45, Paul Licameli <pau...@gm...> wrote:
>> >
>> https://github.com/audacity/audacity/commit/b7f1cf99d6bc3c5777f812cc83bfd509fd0a3e2e
>> >
>> > As promised:  right click on the vertical ruler of a waveform track
>> used to
>> > be zoom-in, but was redundant with shift-left-click, so I repurposed it
>> to
>> > pop up a menu.
>>
>> "Left click zoom in, right click zoom out" has been a familiar and
>> frequently used control for millions of Audacity users for many years,
>> I don't agree that it was "redundant". What was previously a
>> convenient one click action has become a menu selection or a two
>> handed action.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>> >
>> > The menu allows switching among the vertical scale types appropriate to
>> > Waveform or Spectrum.
>> >
>> > In either view type there is also a separator and then menu items for
>> zoom
>> > in, zoom out, and zoom to fit, which replicate the left click/drag,
>> > shift-left click, and shift-right click actions.  The menu gives a
>> place to
>> > describe those mouse shortcuts and make them discoverable, just as we
>> do for
>> > keystroke shortcuts in other menus.
>> >
>> > In future this menu might also switch among track label types, as
>> disctinct
>> > from the vertical scale type, for instance between level and dB labels.
>> >
>> > PRL
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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