Re: [Audacity-quality] Play/Stop and Set Cursor button

[James C. <cr...@in...>]

On acreage...

I think experience shows the pause button is actually confusing, and we 
could lose it.

For example the play button could change to a pause button when playing.
Then 'pause' does what Steve suggests, it stops, with the cursor where 
it was, and
'stop' does as now, sending the cursor back.
The record button could do much the same thing.

One less button.  Better functionality.  All (?) we lose is the ability 
to restart play quickly
with one click, rather than with two.

--James.

PS: To short circuit arguments about the colour, I say the 'pause' 
button should remain
blue.

On 11/12/2013 02:11, Steve the Fiddle wrote:
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> On 11 December 2013 01:46, Vaughan Johnson <va...@au... 
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>>     | From Steve the Fiddle <ste...@gm...
>>     <mailto:ste...@gm...>>
>>     | Mon, 2 Dec 2013 16:07:04 +0000
>>     | Subject: [Audacity-quality] Play/Stop and Set Cursor button
>>     > Just a suggestion:
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>     It's fundamental in GUI design that you don't put an image of a
>     cursor on a control, because then it can appear you have two cursors.
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> It's a big blue cursor that is stuck on a button and does not move, 
> but it could be made a lot more abstract.
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>     And are you talking about putting an extra button on the transport
>     bar? That's a lot of precious acreage. Maybe this comes from an
>     off-list I don't know about.
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> Yes it is a lot of precious acreage, but for many users it would be 
> one of the most used buttons.
> In addition, we get a huge number of support requests asking how to 
> stop playback and leave the cursor at the play position.
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> An option for half size buttons (1/4 area) would more than compensate 
> for the increase.
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> Steve
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>     - V
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>>     Thanks, Steve.
>>     Summary: I am strongly in favour of a button given so many users try
>>     to press Pause and then edit. A button would help close bug 412:
>>     http://bugzilla.audacityteam.org/show_bug.cgi?id=412
>>     <http://bugzilla.audacityteam.org/show_bug.cgi?id=412#c0> .
>>     ATM my thought is to have a yellow coloured button that is only
>>     active
>>     when there is playback.
>>     Detail:
>>     Should the button colour be blue, or yellow when it can be used to
>>     stop and green when it can be used to start? I think on balance it
>>     should be yellow when used to stop, notwithstanding that blue might
>>     look like a second Pause button. I could be persuaded otherwise.
>>     SHIFT + A operates the Play button the same as SPACE does. So
>>     this raises the question if this button should only do Stop and Set
>>     Cursor. So should it when playback is stopped have a greyed out
>>     version of the icon it has when there is playback or paused
>>     playback?
>>     What icon(s) should be on the button?  That partly depends on the
>>     answers to the above. I think the major issue is people realising
>>     the button "stops and sets cursor", so a Play symbol is not helpful.
>>     I'm not sure about the I-beam cursor either.
>>     Here's my rough idea of what we could have as the second icon on the
>>     button to indicate the "set cursor":
>>     Perhaps the triangle should be green to mimic the playback triangle
>>     (though SHIFT + A could also stop a recording) - or it could be
>>     blue if
>>     we decide on blue. Or perhaps something like my image should be
>>     enlarged to be the whole button?
>>     Gale
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