Re: [Audacity-devel] Visual Studio 2012 upgrade?
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From: Martyn S. <mar...@gm...> - 2013-10-26 23:49:41
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re: MinGW And that would put a huge step in the way of Win people contributing (using VS) and being able to see if their changes would work on a Win release version! VS really is the way to go on Win at this time, even if another is available. Or tell me another story. Tell me how (I'm on Win7 right now) I can grab an executable that will install and let me work on Audacity code in a GUI, similar to VS, and use those type of tools. I'm sorry, but the user-base of people on Linux is very much smaller than that of people on Win. Presumably that is true of developers too. Many sources of stats are available I know, but to quote a 'geeky' one: http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp Linux rarely breaks 5%, maybe 15% if you add in Mac. About the same as XP. Nowhere near Win. I said "I'm sorry" as I really expected/hoped, 5 years ago, for PCs to be shipped with 2 choices of operating systems. That hasn't happened. Microsoft has continued to dominate. My daughter bought a laptop today with 8 on it, and so far isn't that happy with it, but what choices does she have? 7, as far as I see. TTFN Martyn On 26/10/2013 21:53, Benjamin Drung wrote: > An alternative would be to build the Windows binaries with MinGW on > Linux. This is what VLC does, for example. Using MinGW frees us from > reading complicated Terms of Use. ;) > > On Sa, 2013-10-26 at 11:48 +0100, James Crook wrote: >> Need to read the license for the Express edition of VS2012 carefully. >> >> IIRC VS 2010 license made it impossible for us to release software built >> with the VS2010 Express edition. If we make sure our release builders >> all have the paid-for version of VS2012, then we may be OK license wise. >> >> I am glad we did not go to VS2010. >> >> If there is good experience with VS2012, a strong wish to move to it and >> no real license barrier, then now might be the time. I think though >> that it is unlikely to help us with Metro unless wxWidgets also does >> some thing in that area. >> >> --James. >> >> >> >> >> On 26/10/2013 05:29, Leland wrote: >>> On 10/25/2013 8:34 PM, Vaughan Johnson wrote: >>>> I think I recall a stream a few weeks ago where James expressed >>>> opposition to upgrading to Microsoft Visual Studio 2012. >>>> >>>> VS2010 was a disaster, and I'm glad we didn't upgrade to it. But VS2012 >>>> has been out for more than a year, and VS2013 was released a week ago. >>>> >>>> I'm all for waiting a year before adopting *any* Microsoft release, >>>> because they have such a long history of failure on first tries. >>>> >>>> But VS2012 might offer us a leg up on Windows 8 features, especially >>>> Metro/desktop dichotomy. I don't know for sure. And "VS2012 Update 1" >>>> (Nov 2012) reintroduced support for builds that work on XP (absent in >>>> original release, Oct 2012). >>>> >>>> I'm not advocating for VS2013 -- it's too new. But sticking with VS2008 >>>> (released Nov 2007) seems pretty regressive, likely to cause more >>>> problems than it solves. >>>> >>>> Opinions, please, especially from somebody more informed about these >>>> issues than I am. (IIRC, Leland has worked with VS2012 and VS2013.) Thanks! >>>> >>> PLEASE DADDY, MAY I HAVE ONE?!?!?!?! >>> >>> Yes, I have converted the Audacity projects to VS2012 in the past. I >>> would start over from scratch though since I'm sure I've deleted by now. >>> >>> I like 2012 a lot. But, remember, I've only used it for personal stuff >>> and have never released any applications into the world. >>> >>> Not sure I'd go to 2013 though, unless Microsoft was sort of using it as >>> their 2012.1 version. :-) >>> >>> Leland >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> October Webinars: Code for Performance >> Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. >> Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most from >> the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register > >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60135991&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >> _______________________________________________ >> audacity-devel mailing list >> aud...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audacity-devel > > |