Re: [Audacity-quality] Sound Finder GUI

[Steve t. F. <ste...@gm...>]

To get the ball rolling, I've posted a "very simple" (too simple)
"Sound or Silence Marker" (version 0.1).
This version clearly does not have enough features to replace the
current versions, but I thought it might help to start off with the
most basic version and then look at which features "need" to be added.
Sound or Silence Marker Version 0.1 is available on the forum:
http://forum.audacityteam.org/viewtopic.php?p=197980#p197980


Steve

On 20 November 2012 20:59, Steve the Fiddle <ste...@gm...> wrote:
> On 20 November 2012 19:44, Gale Andrews <ga...@au...> wrote:
>>
>> | From Steve the Fiddle <ste...@gm...>
>> | Tue, 20 Nov 2012 19:28:16 +0000
>> | Subject: [Audacity-quality] Sound Finder GUI
>>> Although it has had some minor updates "Sound Finder" is essentially a
>>> very old Nyquist effect, (compatible with Audacity 1.2.x).
>>> Nyquist plug-ins still do not have radio buttons or check boxes, but
>>> multi-choice widgets have been available since Audacity 1.3.4.
>>>
>>> The plug-in also has the old style verbosity between the title bar and
>>> the controls (which I've been informed many blind users find annoying
>>> because it gets read out every time the effect is run).
>>>
>>> It's probably due for an overhaul.
>>> There are already several alternative (more modern) versions.
>>
>> We should try and re-invigorate those Forum discussions about
>> where to go with Silence Finder and Sound Finder.
>>
>> It's the usual story that there are several requested improvements
>> to those plug-ins, but it's a question of the best way to implement
>> them and which of the two (or both) they get implemented in.
>>
>> Ideally the two plug-ins should be combined, but as I recall this will
>> be too complex for the limitations of Nyquist interface.
>
> I don't think that it's too complicated to "only" combine Silence /
> Sound marking, but it does get too complicated if we want to add other
> options for what sounds/silences to mark/ignore, where to mark them
> and labelling options.
>
> There have been a lot of requests for more "advanced" versions than we
> currently have, but including all of the "advanced" options will
> certainly makes it too complicated for a lot of users.
>
> It was agreed in previous forum discussions that there must be a very
> simple version included with Audacity, but that alone will not satisfy
> other users so we need to have two effects. What needs to be decided
> is what features will be available in the simple effect, and what
> features will be available in the more comprehensive version.
>
> Steve
>
>>
>> Gale
>>
>>
>>> On 20 November 2012 18:58, Peter Sampson <pet...@ya...> wrote:
>>> > In doing some work on the Analyze Menu page I was led to have a look
>>> > at the GUI for Sound Finder (a utility I personally never use - hence
>>> > previously un-noticed by me).
>>> >
>>> > See:
>>> > http://manual.audacityteam.org/man/Silence_Finder_and_Sound_Finder#sound
>>> >
>>> > The final parameter that can be set "Add a label at the end of the track?"
>>> > has what seems to be a ridiculous GUI:
>>> >
>>> > 1) Rather than a Yes/No the user has to choose 1 or 0, by typing.
>>> >
>>> > 2) The effect does not trap values other than 0 and 1 - and will even
>>> > accept decimal values (0.5 forces a yes for example etc.).
>>> >
>>> > 3) The 0 <=> 1 off/on flip can also be effected by a ridiculous slider.
>>> >
>>> > Surely we should be providing a check box or a radio button
>>> > to control this simple on/off parameter - or am I wrong here?
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > Peter.
>>
>>
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