Re: [Audacity-quality] Verbosity in installer dialog.
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From: James C. <cr...@in...> - 2012-02-20 21:49:41
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Please, Release Manager decides. We're just lobbyists. On 20/02/2012 00:35, Martyn Shaw wrote: > > On 18/02/2012 22:04, Gale Andrews wrote: >> | From James Crook<cr...@in...> >> | Sat, 18 Feb 2012 10:34:53 +0000 >> | Subject: [Audacity-quality] Verbosity in installer dialog. >>> audacity-win-2.0rc1.exe >>> >>> (P4?) >>> >>> The audacity executable, which is what you get with the installer, is >>> released under GPL. The fact that we also use the more permissive LGPL, >>> wxWidgets and BSD license for some source code and that this code may be >>> found in a directory called lib-src, which you only get if you also >>> download the source code, is only of interest to programmers who are >>> looking at adapting the source code. And they are not interested in it >>> (or at least I wasn't) when they are installing Audacity to use, only >>> when they are digging into the source code. People who install Audacity >>> executable don't have lib-src at all, so we really should not be >>> demanding that they pay attention to understanding what we are talking >>> about in the installer. >>> >>> This is part of user's initial impressions of Audacity. > What is displayed by the installer is LICENSE.txt, see > InfoBeforeFile=..\LICENSE.txt > in .iss files :-). > > I'm +1 on James's idea in principle. However in terms of > implementation, what we are displaying with the installer is > LICENSE.txt, so if we change it we lose info available to people who > download the source code and want to go further, which may not be the > right thing to do. > > We do need to display the GPL though, see the last sentence of this > para of the GPL Preamble: > > " For example, if you distribute copies of such a program, whether > gratis or for a fee, you must give the recipients all the rights that > you have. You must make sure that they, too, receive or can get the > source code. And you must show them these terms so they know their > rights." We display the GPL in the about box. Portable apps distributions will not get our installer probably. > Comments on that or an alternative implementation? A LICENSE1.txt > file with the bits we are cutting out? If we keep the license announcement in the installer, then LICENSE1.TXT is a workable solution. Another (compromise I could live with) is moving the announcement that some code is available under a more permissive license too to the foot of the text file. Most people will see 'free - GPL' and not scroll down. > >> I would trim it less drastically and make LICENSE.txt the same as >> the trimmed text. > see above. > > And no need for "please see here for that". > > Indeed, but is perhaps better English than a hanging URL. > >> -1 to the more drastic removal and mismatch with LICENSE.txt. >> My text: >> >> "Note: Audacity is distributed under the terms of the GNU GPL. >> >> Some code (in the lib-src directory in the sources) may be >> released under a different, GPL-compatible license). Please >> see the README.txt file and the license details inside each >> subdirectory of lib-src. > This rather misses James's point that we don't need to display the > stuff about other licences to the average user, since it is irrelevant > to them, and indeed to the licence of what they are installing. > > TTFN > Martyn |