RE: [Arianne-devel] Arianne, 3D Client and Planeshift

[djaggernaut <dja...@wa...>]

"IMO it is a bad idea to join with a project that:
a) is not really open source
b) has no public content
c) doesn't welcome newcomers

 I would really think twice before
spending whole weekends on a project that I won't feel as my creation."


True.

[KW] Djaggernaut -(atx)-


|> -----Message d'origine-----
|> De : ari...@li...
|> [mailto:ari...@li...]De la part de MIGUEL
|> ANGEL BLANCH LARDIN
|> Envoy=E9 : mardi 27 ao=FBt 2002 10:50
|> =C0 : ari...@li...
|> Objet : Re: [Arianne-devel] Arianne, 3D Client and Planeshift
|>
|>
|> > While looking for informations about crystal space for our new
|> 3D Client
|> > I also visited the #planeshift-public channel a few times....
|> >
|> > I had a long chat with Talad, the project leader of the Planeshift
|> > project.
|> > In case you dont know, Planeshift is a project just like ours that
|> > focuses on creating a 3D MMORPG game.
|> > They are also on our IRC server and on sourceforge.
|> >
|> > Their website is at: http://www.planeshift.it/
|>
|> Ok, I were proposed around 2 years ago the same by previous PS
|> leader. And as
|> you guess my reply was no.
|>
|> I have had serious problems with way PS people think of Open
|> source development.
|> If you take a few minutes to browse the site you will see that all the
|> development information is hidden and it is only accessible to
|> developers ( is
|> that Open Source? ) if you join their developer channel you are
|> invited to go
|> out because it is a "developers only" channel ( is that Open Source? )=
=2E
|> And well there is also the #1 problem.
|> All the artwork and stuff from PS is licensed under the PS
|> license, that is
|> INCOMPATIBLE with GPL.
|>
|> > Now, they already have a very cool 3D client and a server done, and =
we
|> > have a pretty cool server and 2d client...
|> >
|> > Talad was proposing to join up and do one project together, which wo=
uld
|> > probably benefit both teams.
|> > He thinks its a waste of resources to do two projects with the same
|> > goal, as it will be hard to get
|> > enough devs to stay around all the time to finish massive projects l=
ike
|> > ours....
|>
|> PS (code) works in a different way that Arianne one.
|> PS use UDP and has a static world, while Arianne uses TCP and
|> the world is
|> dinamically created on the server.
|> Really PS way is from far the easiest one to get fast a good
|> looking client, but
|> IMO the concept is a bit limited.
|>
|> Also another drawback is that PS is totally integrated on CS,
|> and they use
|> something called CEL ( Crystalspace entity layer ) for the "RP
|> System" ( I
|> think ), so it is really hard to break that link. What that
|> means? That PS is
|> totally linked to success of CS and is totally linked to CS, so
|> if in anytime a
|> new different 3D engine want to be used it would be a really hard task=
=2E
|>
|> > I just wanted to bring this up so people can discuss about it,
|> wether it
|> > would be a good idea, a bad idea, or whatever....
|>
|> IMO it is a bad idea.
|> Personally I dislike ways of working of PS people, IMO Open
|> source development
|> requiere Open source models...
|> I also dislike the desorganization of our reference project WF,
|> IMO it is too
|> big, too complex.
|>
|> > We could also discuss to maybe share art and music only, or other
|> > things....
|>
|> IMO a Open Source project should have an Open Source content...
|> but that is only
|> my opinion.
|>
|> > He pretty much wants to merge the projects totally though, so the de=
vs
|> > can concentrate on advancing one project and make
|> > development faster.
|>
|> IMO it is a bad idea to join with a project that:
|> a) is not really open source
|> b) has no public content
|> c) doesn't welcome newcomers
|>
|> Well, that is my opinion as one more on Arianne.
|> Personally, I work hard on Arianne, because I feel it as mine, as my
|> treassssure, my little treassssure..., I would really think twice befo=
re
|> spending whole weekends on a project that I won't feel as my creation.
|>
|> Regards,
|> Miguel
|>
|>
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