xbox-linux-user

Re: [Xbox-linux-user] question about linux install

[Darren W. <chi...@ch...>]

leslie dale wrote:
> Yes lol im still trying to figure out a different method of installing 
> linux on my Xbox, But my main question is, instead of using a memory 
> stick, xbmc or reformatting the HD..
>
> Is it possible for someone to just burn the linux mech assault disk to 
> there hard drive then upload it to a site, then let us burn it to our 
> dvdr's?
>
> thanks
You seem to have misunderstood a few things. Firstly reformatting an 
xbox hd is never a good idea. You can take larger pc drives and copy the 
xbox data to them to make an xbox drive that way.

Secondly there is no "linux mechassault disk". Of course if you had a 
modchip you could burn any disk you want to the dvdr and if the disk had 
an xbox version of linux on it then it would run.

[Xbox-linux-user] question about linux install

[leslie d. <cla...@ya...>]

Yes lol im still trying to figure out a different method of installing linux on my Xbox, But my main question is, instead of using a memory stick, xbmc or reformatting the HD..

Is it possible for someone to just burn the linux mech assault disk to there hard drive then upload it to a site, then let us burn it to our dvdr's?

thanks

       
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Re: [Xbox-linux-user] Stop X from starting

[Darren W. <chi...@ch...>]

Monkey Pet wrote:
> Hi, i wanted to know what starts X.  I scanned the init scripts, but i
> can't seem to find it.  I thought xdm would start X, but after
> stopping the service and killing X, it gets respawned.  I have killed
> it but it gets respawned.  I have been able to stop it by renaming
> startx to something else and killing off X.
/etc/inittab is the file you are looking for. Each terminal has an entry 
there.

[Xbox-linux-user] Stop X from starting

[Monkey P. <mon...@gm...>]

Hi, i wanted to know what starts X.  I scanned the init scripts, but i
can't seem to find it.  I thought xdm would start X, but after
stopping the service and killing X, it gets respawned.  I have killed
it but it gets respawned.  I have been able to stop it by renaming
startx to something else and killing off X.

Re: [Xbox-linux-user] newbie getting buried in info : XBMC

[Brandon R. <ps...@gm...>]

I've managed to use GentooX running on a PC to read/write FATX formatted USB
keys and FATX formatted Xbox hard drives.  Make sure you use the correct
kernel when you boot the CD and it will run on the PC and give you the
ability to read/write FATX as well as your local machine's filesystem.

Brandon

On 8/28/07, Jesse Laeuchli <jla...@gm...> wrote:
>
> Its been awhile, but I believe you can use action replay to move the files
> over. If you have a router and two regular ethernet cables you dont need a
> cross over cable.
>
> On 8/28/07, Henk-Jan <sm...@wa...> wrote:
> >
> > OK, started working on it and think I encountered the first hurdle ,
> > quite
> > early in the process ..
> > Once the USB stick gets recognized by the Xbox, the FATX will be used to
> >
> > wipe the drive.
> >
> > Now the question : how do I after that place the gamesaves on it ?
> > Windows
> > itself cannot use FATX, and I tried a VMware of Ubuntu but it did not
> > seem
> > to like the stick that much ...
> >
> > Any tips ? (I am sure once this hurdle is taken, the next one will be to
> > get
> > FTP to the XBOX, I saw a crossover cable is required what I do not
> > have... )
> >
> > Cheers,
> > HJ
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Darren Wilkinson" < xb...@ch...>
> > Newsgroups: gmane.linux.ports.xbox.user
> > To: <xbo...@li... >
> > Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 11:04 PM
> > Subject: Re: newbie getting buried in info : XBMC
> >
> >
> > > Darren Wilkinson wrote:
> > >> Henk-Jan wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Rip out old HD, copy over the partition structure and contents of
> > the 8
> > >>> or
> > >>> 10 Gb drive to the 320 Gb drive, which is otherwise empty
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >> Yes, but you've got to unlock the drive first.
> > >
> > > Also you should register on the forums of xbox-scene.com. They're the
> > > most knowledgeable although I don't post there myself. There is a
> > > program also there called xboxhdm which can automatically do most of
> > > what needs doing with regards copying and locking/unlocking drives.
> > >
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Re: [Xbox-linux-user] newbie getting buried in info : XBMC

[Jesse L. <jla...@gm...>]

Its been awhile, but I believe you can use action replay to move the files
over. If you have a router and two regular ethernet cables you dont need a
cross over cable.

On 8/28/07, Henk-Jan <sm...@wa...> wrote:
>
> OK, started working on it and think I encountered the first hurdle , quite
> early in the process ..
> Once the USB stick gets recognized by the Xbox, the FATX will be used to
> wipe the drive.
>
> Now the question : how do I after that place the gamesaves on it ? Windows
> itself cannot use FATX, and I tried a VMware of Ubuntu but it did not seem
> to like the stick that much ...
>
> Any tips ? (I am sure once this hurdle is taken, the next one will be to
> get
> FTP to the XBOX, I saw a crossover cable is required what I do not have...
> )
>
> Cheers,
> HJ
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Darren Wilkinson" <xb...@ch...>
> Newsgroups: gmane.linux.ports.xbox.user
> To: <xbo...@li...>
> Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 11:04 PM
> Subject: Re: newbie getting buried in info : XBMC
>
>
> > Darren Wilkinson wrote:
> >> Henk-Jan wrote:
> >>
> >>> Rip out old HD, copy over the partition structure and contents of the
> 8
> >>> or
> >>> 10 Gb drive to the 320 Gb drive, which is otherwise empty
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Yes, but you've got to unlock the drive first.
> >
> > Also you should register on the forums of xbox-scene.com. They're the
> > most knowledgeable although I don't post there myself. There is a
> > program also there called xboxhdm which can automatically do most of
> > what needs doing with regards copying and locking/unlocking drives.
> >
> >
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Re: [Xbox-linux-user] newbie getting buried in info : XBMC

[Henk-Jan <sm...@wa...>]

OK, started working on it and think I encountered the first hurdle , quite 
early in the process ..
Once the USB stick gets recognized by the Xbox, the FATX will be used to 
wipe the drive.

Now the question : how do I after that place the gamesaves on it ? Windows 
itself cannot use FATX, and I tried a VMware of Ubuntu but it did not seem 
to like the stick that much ...

Any tips ? (I am sure once this hurdle is taken, the next one will be to get 
FTP to the XBOX, I saw a crossover cable is required what I do not have... )

Cheers,
HJ

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Darren Wilkinson" <xb...@ch...>
Newsgroups: gmane.linux.ports.xbox.user
To: <xbo...@li...>
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 11:04 PM
Subject: Re: newbie getting buried in info : XBMC


> Darren Wilkinson wrote:
>> Henk-Jan wrote:
>>
>>> Rip out old HD, copy over the partition structure and contents of the 8 
>>> or
>>> 10 Gb drive to the 320 Gb drive, which is otherwise empty
>>>
>>>
>> Yes, but you've got to unlock the drive first.
>
> Also you should register on the forums of xbox-scene.com. They're the
> most knowledgeable although I don't post there myself. There is a
> program also there called xboxhdm which can automatically do most of
> what needs doing with regards copying and locking/unlocking drives.
>
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Re: [Xbox-linux-user] newbie getting buried in info : XBMC

[Darren W. <chi...@ch...>]

Ashley Hakker wrote:
> For modding, you will really only need two things, an Action Replay and one 
> of three three useable games to modify the Xbox.  The Ndure soft mod WILL 
> work on any version of Xbox.  However older Xbox's have older dashboards and 
> need upgrading to 5920 but this can be done manually which is what I've done 
> since I've modded 4 Xbox's so far for our streaming video project.
>   
The AR is suitable but a usb stick with a xbox to usb adapter works as
well. Also many apps inc XBMC and microsofts own dashboard support using
a keyboard for entering text. He also has a 1.6 xbox so the dashboard
version isn't an issue. I think I mentioned NDURE works on all but I
mentioned UXE does so to.
> To get the right game, just go to any used game store and ask for the game 
> and have them look for the right serial number.  I got funny looks at EB 
> Games but they found me the right version of Splinter Cell after 4 discs.  
> When you start the mod tool, it enables FTP access.  I downloaded a copy of 
> the 5920 Dashboard for Xbox and I can just delete the old dashboard off the 
> Xbox and FTP on the new version.  A lot easier than say, installing an 
> operating system on a PC.  I find it quite user friendly once you figure it 
> out.  Also while in the Ndure installer you can copy the 'EEPROM' data and 
> such that's necessary to unlock and lock the hard drive.  You can then FTP 
> that off the Xbox and use for other tools, such as Xbox HDM.  (I've only 
> used Xbox HDM once, that was when my Xbox hard drive was 'fucked' in such a 
> way that all Xbox aps worked fine but Xebian couldn't correctly format the 
> drive for it's use.  Yeah, I have no idea why it was like that.
>   
We've already covered all that but I think most xbox newbies need many
reassurances that it is so easy so thanks. You can also use xboxhdm to
format any copy the savegames onto a fatx usb stick.
> As I've learned, it is hard to PERMINANTLY fuck up your Xbox.  So long as 
> the exploited save game is on your Xbox in the save game area, you have the 
> game CD, and a backup of the necessary Xbox data on your PC, you can always 
> regain FTP access and return your Xbox to normal or just wash everything off 
> and leave it 'unmodified'.
>   
Very true. The only risky point is when it comes to drive locking where
one mistyped letter can stop the drive from working. But even then that
is avoidable with xboxhdm and technically that alters the drive & not
the xbox.
> When I'm modding Xbox's I just make sure to have backup data on the PC, 
> basicly a clone of the Xbox's C:\ and E:\ drives.
>   
Very wise I'm backing up the E: partition at the moment.
> I've been yet to do an HDD upgrade on an Xbox but I will for our XBMC in our 
> living room soon, but it's really no different than when I used Xbox HDM to 
> 'repair' the drive... Just using a bigger drive.
>   
xboxhdm is best for copying an xbox drive but I've read somewhere that
it won't get the full amount of space for some drives as it only formats
with 16k clusters. XBpartitioner on the xbox will format any disk size
though.

Re: [Xbox-linux-user] newbie getting buried in info : XBMC

[Darren W. <chi...@ch...>]

Henk-Jan wrote:
>> I am using the XBMC with the mythtv script instead of my original plan, 
>> which was to run linux on my xbox. I am very happy with XBMC, not only 
>> because it was so easy to get set up, but also because it is VERY well 
>> done. I've worked with many commercial products that don't even compare. 
>> Here's how I did it:
>>
>> 1. I wasn't able to get a USB flashdrive that worked, so I purchased a 
>> memory card and sent it off to get the exploits put on it.
>> 2. Bought a copy of Splinter Cell.
>> 3. Started Xbox Live, so I could get the dashboard update.
>>     
>
> Necessary for what if I may ask ? You have considered the fact that my Xbox 
> is version 1.6 ? Is this a MS update necessary before the XBMC installation 
> ?
>   
He's just listing what he did. You won't need it as I think you'll 
already have the newest dashboard. You can doublecheck by going to the 
MS dashboard and checking the system menu though. I have kernel 4034 and 
MS dashboard 5960. My exploit loads UnleashX dashboard when the xbox boots.
> 4. Ran the Spinter Cell exploit, backed up my rom files, and installed the 
> dashboard. I don't remember which one.
> 5. Hooked up the Xbox to my network and started it up. With the IP address 
> I copied the backup files and the contents of the C and E drives to my 
> windows machine.
>   
>
> Nothing between 4 and 5 ? How to getthe IP ?
>   
The exploit/installer & dashboard will include an ftp server operating 
in the background. Check their ftp settings once it's installed. Ftp is 
the easiest way to get software to the xbox once the new dashboard is 
installed.
>> 6. Download a copy of XBoxHDM 1.9 and follow the readme on how to use it 
>> to make a boot CD to make the new hard drive work.
>> 7. After locking the new hard drive and putting it into the Xbox, boot it 
>> up and get the IP address.
>>     
>
> Prior to 7 I guess the old drive in the Xbox needs to get unlocked, and the 
> necessary codes obtained to lock the new drive ? Which FAT system is going 
> to be used on the new drive ? Can I leave files on the drive or will they be 
> lost ? (was going to have it loaded with MP3's and then migrate)
>   
Xboxes use FatX which can't normally be read by windows and xbox drives 
have no traditional msdos partition table and copying the xbox data over 
will wipe the msdos table. You'll need to find a temporary home for 
those files.
>> 8. Copy all the contents of the XBMC directory to the Dashboard directory 
>> on the E drive.
>> 9. Reboot and enjoy.
>> I wrote this from memory, but I really don't think I missed any steps.
>>     
>
> :) See what a second digging brings out ..
>
>
> cheers,
> Henk-Jan
>   

Re: [Xbox-linux-user] newbie getting buried in info : XBMC

[Henk-Jan <sm...@wa...>]

Hi Jack,

thanks for taking the time to respond.. a few notes :


>I am using the XBMC with the mythtv script instead of my original plan, 
>which was to run linux on my xbox. I am very happy with XBMC, not only 
>because it was so easy to get set up, but also because it is VERY well 
>done. I've worked with many commercial products that don't even compare. 
>Here's how I did it:
>
> 1. I wasn't able to get a USB flashdrive that worked, so I purchased a 
> memory card and sent it off to get the exploits put on it.
> 2. Bought a copy of Splinter Cell.
> 3. Started Xbox Live, so I could get the dashboard update.

Necessary for what if I may ask ? You have considered the fact that my Xbox 
is version 1.6 ? Is this a MS update necessary before the XBMC installation 
?

> 4. Ran the Spinter Cell exploit, backed up my rom files, and installed the 
> dashboard. I don't remember which one.
> 5. Hooked up the Xbox to my network and started it up. With the IP address 
> I copied the backup files and the contents of the C and E drives to my 
> windows machine.

Nothing between 4 and 5 ? How to getthe IP ?

> 6. Download a copy of XBoxHDM 1.9 and follow the readme on how to use it 
> to make a boot CD to make the new hard drive work.
> 7. After locking the new hard drive and putting it into the Xbox, boot it 
> up and get the IP address.

Prior to 7 I guess the old drive in the Xbox needs to get unlocked, and the 
necessary codes obtained to lock the new drive ? Which FAT system is going 
to be used on the new drive ? Can I leave files on the drive or will they be 
lost ? (was going to have it loaded with MP3's and then migrate)

> 8. Copy all the contents of the XBMC directory to the Dashboard directory 
> on the E drive.
> 9. Reboot and enjoy.
> I wrote this from memory, but I really don't think I missed any steps.

:) See what a second digging brings out ..


cheers,
Henk-Jan

Re: [Xbox-linux-user] newbie getting buried in info : XBMC

[Ashley H. <cam...@ho...>]

I was initially looking at Xebian myself to use the Xbox for media purposes. 
  In this case we are trying to do a streaming video network using Xbox as 
the client set top boxes for streaming video over LAN.  (The Xbox seemed 
cheap, effective, and had native TV out support which lower end off lease 
computers do not support.)

So in screwing around with Xebian Sarge and VLC 0.8.2 for a few weeks and 
not having much success in making the Xbox 'effective', I decided to just 
try XBMC, since it would run a lot smoother.  In retrospect, a general 
purpose operating system on purpose built hardware with a few modifications 
(Some of which are not all that reliable) just wasn't the best for what I 
needed it to do.  Xbox Media Center, being coded specifcly for the Xbox and 
compiled using Micosoft's own Xbox Development Kit means it runs as well as 
any Xbox game runs on the Xbox so it's smooth as silk.

XBMC basicly uses Mplayer as it's media playing core so it was agian well 
suited for my purposes.

For modding, you will really only need two things, an Action Replay and one 
of three three useable games to modify the Xbox.  The Ndure soft mod WILL 
work on any version of Xbox.  However older Xbox's have older dashboards and 
need upgrading to 5920 but this can be done manually which is what I've done 
since I've modded 4 Xbox's so far for our streaming video project.

To get the right game, just go to any used game store and ask for the game 
and have them look for the right serial number.  I got funny looks at EB 
Games but they found me the right version of Splinter Cell after 4 discs.  
When you start the mod tool, it enables FTP access.  I downloaded a copy of 
the 5920 Dashboard for Xbox and I can just delete the old dashboard off the 
Xbox and FTP on the new version.  A lot easier than say, installing an 
operating system on a PC.  I find it quite user friendly once you figure it 
out.  Also while in the Ndure installer you can copy the 'EEPROM' data and 
such that's necessary to unlock and lock the hard drive.  You can then FTP 
that off the Xbox and use for other tools, such as Xbox HDM.  (I've only 
used Xbox HDM once, that was when my Xbox hard drive was 'fucked' in such a 
way that all Xbox aps worked fine but Xebian couldn't correctly format the 
drive for it's use.  Yeah, I have no idea why it was like that.

If you just FTP on the new Dashboard (Assuming your machine doesn't already 
have 5920 on the Xbox) and then go threw Ndures install process which is 
very procedural and hard to screw up.  Once that is installed, you can just 
download Xbox media Center, go to the dashboard folder on E:\ on the Xbox, 
delete the UnleashX or what ever dashboard Ndure installed, and FTP XBMC 
into that location and just reboot.

As I've learned, it is hard to PERMINANTLY fuck up your Xbox.  So long as 
the exploited save game is on your Xbox in the save game area, you have the 
game CD, and a backup of the necessary Xbox data on your PC, you can always 
regain FTP access and return your Xbox to normal or just wash everything off 
and leave it 'unmodified'.

When I'm modding Xbox's I just make sure to have backup data on the PC, 
basicly a clone of the Xbox's C:\ and E:\ drives.

I've been yet to do an HDD upgrade on an Xbox but I will for our XBMC in our 
living room soon, but it's really no different than when I used Xbox HDM to 
'repair' the drive... Just using a bigger drive.

-Ashley Hakker


>From: "Henk-Jan" <sm...@wa...>
>Reply-To: xbo...@li...
>To: <xbo...@li...>
>Subject: Re: [Xbox-linux-user] newbie getting buried in info : XBMC
>Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 12:49:02 +0200
>
>ok, so to recap :
>
>first apply softmod (which backs up BIOS onto a partition on original HD)
>Rip out old HD, copy over the partition structure and contents of the 8 or
>10 Gb drive to the 320 Gb drive, which is otherwise empty
>Get the new HD patched, signature wise to allow the HD to be used in the
>XBox (this needs to be done connecting the HD to a PC ?!)
>load the XBMC folder structure onto the drive (also from having the drive
>hooked up to the PC yet ?)
>place the new HD in the Xbox
>boot ?
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Xbox-linux-user] newbie getting buried in info : XBMC

[Darren W. <xb...@ch...>]

Darren Wilkinson wrote:
> Henk-Jan wrote:
>   
>> Rip out old HD, copy over the partition structure and contents of the 8 or 
>> 10 Gb drive to the 320 Gb drive, which is otherwise empty
>>   
>>     
> Yes, but you've got to unlock the drive first.

Also you should register on the forums of xbox-scene.com. They're the 
most knowledgeable although I don't post there myself. There is a 
program also there called xboxhdm which can automatically do most of 
what needs doing with regards copying and locking/unlocking drives.

Re: [Xbox-linux-user] newbie getting buried in info : XBMC

[Darren W. <chi...@ch...>]

Henk-Jan wrote:
> ok, so to recap :
>
> first apply softmod (which backs up BIOS onto a partition on original HD)
>   
Yes. But at this point you've got to ftp (using the new xbox dashboard) 
or otherwise copy the bios from the xbox to the pc.
> Rip out old HD, copy over the partition structure and contents of the 8 or 
> 10 Gb drive to the 320 Gb drive, which is otherwise empty
>   
Yes, but you've got to unlock the drive first.
> Get the new HD patched, signature wise to allow the HD to be used in the 
> XBox (this needs to be done connecting the HD to a PC ?!)
>   
It is unlocking not patching. The drive structure itself isn't altered. 
Unlocking is a data security measure on hard drives but rarely used on 
home pcs, as the drive needs a "key" before it will give you it's data.
> load the XBMC folder structure onto the drive (also from having the drive 
> hooked up to the PC yet ?)
>   
Better to do this either second or last when the hd is actually in the 
xbox. You'd then copy it via ftp or dvdr (xboxes can't handle cdr 
without a modchip & new dvd drive).
> place the new HD in the Xbox
> boot ?

That's right. It is best though to re-lock the original xbox drive 
though so you have a backup working backup.

Re: [Xbox-linux-user] newbie getting buried in info : XBMC

[Henk-Jan <sm...@wa...>]

ok, so to recap :

first apply softmod (which backs up BIOS onto a partition on original HD)
Rip out old HD, copy over the partition structure and contents of the 8 or 
10 Gb drive to the 320 Gb drive, which is otherwise empty
Get the new HD patched, signature wise to allow the HD to be used in the 
XBox (this needs to be done connecting the HD to a PC ?!)
load the XBMC folder structure onto the drive (also from having the drive 
hooked up to the PC yet ?)
place the new HD in the Xbox
boot ?

Re: [Xbox-linux-user] newbie getting buried in info : XBMC

[Darren W. <chi...@ch...>]

Henk-Jan wrote:
> Hi Darren,
>
> I've read a lot more, but still am concerned about having a 2005 version 1.6 
> Xbox, and e.g.
>   
Don't be. I've softmodded a 1.6 xbox in the past and unmodded it too.
> http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/FAQ#Why_Linux.3F_Why_not_Windows.3F
> will tell you no softmodding can be done. Don't want to realize halfway thru 
> that I have to reverse the whole thing and start looking around for a chip. 
> I thought you may have a suggestion ?
>   
The data there is old. There is no LEGAL way to softmod a 1.6 xbox is 
the exploits need to contain some of microsofts copyrighted code). Also 
softmodding is VERY quick and uncomplicated once you've copied the right 
savegames over. Ndure and UXE exploits work *brilliantly* on 1.6 boxes.
> Also, 320 Gb should not be a problem, should it ? (using Linux, or XBMC, see 
> also following question)
>   
No.
> By the way, Linux can be put on such a system, or XBMC. I XBMC an app 
> running from within Linux, or is this a standalone running thing which 
> eliminates the option of having Linux on the Xbox ?
>   
The exploit will install a new dashboard which will load when you reboot 
without a disc in. The dashboard can then do other stuff (play music, 
load emulators, linux, XBMC, xbox games from hd, other dashboards etc). 
Most homebrew apps also have an option to exit to the dashboard. Linux 
on a chipped box can *if you so wish* take over the entire hd but it is 
in no way necessary and on a softmodded box is not recommended.

Re: [Xbox-linux-user] newbie getting buried in info : XBMC

[Patrick <th...@gm...>]

Think of XBMC and linux as two seperate apps.  Don't think of it as an
actual operating system for the xbox, unless you want to think of XBMC
and EvoX and Avalaunch as apps too.  linux can be launched from XBMC or
any other illegal hacker dash.  Linux cannot launch any other
applications.
-Patrick
P.S. the thing about having that version xbox means you have a certain
dash version and a kernel that won't let you downgrade.  If you can find
a hack that works on that dash version (certainly not the xbox-linux
hack.  you'll have to look to the dark side for help there) then you
should be fine.

On Sat, 2007-08-25 at 13:02 +0200, Henk-Jan wrote:
> Hi Darren,
> 
> I've read a lot more, but still am concerned about having a 2005 version 1.6 
> Xbox, and e.g.
> http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/FAQ#Why_Linux.3F_Why_not_Windows.3F
> will tell you no softmodding can be done. Don't want to realize halfway thru 
> that I have to reverse the whole thing and start looking around for a chip. 
> I thought you may have a suggestion ?
> 
> Also, 320 Gb should not be a problem, should it ? (using Linux, or XBMC, see 
> also following question)
> 
> By the way, Linux can be put on such a system, or XBMC. I XBMC an app 
> running from within Linux, or is this a standalone running thing which 
> eliminates the option of having Linux on the Xbox ?
> 
> 
> cheers,
> a hesitant Xbox owner ;-)
> 
> 
> > The softmod NEEDS drive locking. The original xbox drive is locked with
> > a code made form both the a unique HD drive signature  and a unique xbox
> > bios code and the bios refuses to boot anything if it can't go through
> > the process of unlocking the drive. It then tries to boot, from the hard
> > drive, into the microsoft code but runs into the softmod which then runs
> > your choice of dashboard and programs.
> >
> > The softmod you install should backup the xbox bios to a file in the E:
> > partition of the drive. The tools at www.xbox-scene.com will ask you for
> > the xbox bios file and the drive you wish to lock and will give you the
> > "key" which you should write down and keep safe.
> >
> > Things to keep in mind?
> > 1. You've got to find somewhere to store the data already on the 320gb
> > drive until the process is finished.
> > 2. If the xbox menu doesn't give you the "copy" option when looking at
> > the usb stick then tap the joystick right first ;)
> >
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Re: [Xbox-linux-user] newbie getting buried in info : XBMC

[Henk-Jan <sm...@wa...>]

Hi Darren,

I've read a lot more, but still am concerned about having a 2005 version 1.6 
Xbox, and e.g.
http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/FAQ#Why_Linux.3F_Why_not_Windows.3F
will tell you no softmodding can be done. Don't want to realize halfway thru 
that I have to reverse the whole thing and start looking around for a chip. 
I thought you may have a suggestion ?

Also, 320 Gb should not be a problem, should it ? (using Linux, or XBMC, see 
also following question)

By the way, Linux can be put on such a system, or XBMC. I XBMC an app 
running from within Linux, or is this a standalone running thing which 
eliminates the option of having Linux on the Xbox ?


cheers,
a hesitant Xbox owner ;-)


> The softmod NEEDS drive locking. The original xbox drive is locked with
> a code made form both the a unique HD drive signature  and a unique xbox
> bios code and the bios refuses to boot anything if it can't go through
> the process of unlocking the drive. It then tries to boot, from the hard
> drive, into the microsoft code but runs into the softmod which then runs
> your choice of dashboard and programs.
>
> The softmod you install should backup the xbox bios to a file in the E:
> partition of the drive. The tools at www.xbox-scene.com will ask you for
> the xbox bios file and the drive you wish to lock and will give you the
> "key" which you should write down and keep safe.
>
> Things to keep in mind?
> 1. You've got to find somewhere to store the data already on the 320gb
> drive until the process is finished.
> 2. If the xbox menu doesn't give you the "copy" option when looking at
> the usb stick then tap the joystick right first ;)
>
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Re: [Xbox-linux-user] newbie getting buried in info : XBMC

[Darren W. <chi...@ch...>]

Henk-Jan wrote:
> Thanks for your patience, I am in the process of getting the USB - Xbox 
> cable / converter, as well as an original Splinter Cell.
>
> One more question if you do not mind. How does my "trying to fit a WD 320 
> HD" fit in here (so ripping out the old drive), at what point to I do so ? 
> Before or after the softmod, and what do I need to keep in mind ? Is the 
> softmod also intended to avoid drive locking (I assume not) ?
The softmod NEEDS drive locking. The original xbox drive is locked with 
a code made form both the a unique HD drive signature  and a unique xbox 
bios code and the bios refuses to boot anything if it can't go through 
the process of unlocking the drive. It then tries to boot, from the hard 
drive, into the microsoft code but runs into the softmod which then runs 
your choice of dashboard and programs.

The softmod you install should backup the xbox bios to a file in the E: 
partition of the drive. The tools at www.xbox-scene.com will ask you for 
the xbox bios file and the drive you wish to lock and will give you the 
"key" which you should write down and keep safe.

Things to keep in mind?
1. You've got to find somewhere to store the data already on the 320gb 
drive until the process is finished.
2. If the xbox menu doesn't give you the "copy" option when looking at 
the usb stick then tap the joystick right first ;)

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Re: [Xbox-linux-user] newbie getting buried in info : XBMC

[Henk-Jan <sm...@wa...>]

Thanks for your patience, I am in the process of getting the USB - Xbox 
cable / converter, as well as an original Splinter Cell.

One more question if you do not mind. How does my "trying to fit a WD 320 
HD" fit in here (so ripping out the old drive), at what point to I do so ? 
Before or after the softmod, and what do I need to keep in mind ? Is the 
softmod also intended to avoid drive locking (I assume not) ?



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Darren Wilkinson" <chi...@ch...>
Newsgroups: gmane.linux.ports.xbox.user
To: <xbo...@li...>
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2007 11:14 PM
Subject: Re: newbie getting buried in info : XBMC


> Henk-Jan wrote:
>> Hmm, is this what I require to get to a save game (using a USB memory 
>> stick
>> I have laying around) ?
> As long as that stick didn't need any drivers to work in any operating
> system (except anything before windows xp) it'll be fine. In fact
> download any of the xbox linux distros and boot them on your pc. If that
> recognises the usb stick with the "mount /dev/sda /whateverdirectory"
> command (or possibly mount /dev/sdb or sdc depending on if you have any
> sata drives) you can run "mkfs.fatx" and copy the folders across. The
> folder names will be 8 digit hex values to be put in the UDATA folder
>
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Re: [Xbox-linux-user] newbie getting buried in info : XBMC

[Darren W. <chi...@ch...>]

Henk-Jan wrote:
> Hmm, is this what I require to get to a save game (using a USB memory stick 
> I have laying around) ?
As long as that stick didn't need any drivers to work in any operating 
system (except anything before windows xp) it'll be fine. In fact 
download any of the xbox linux distros and boot them on your pc. If that 
recognises the usb stick with the "mount /dev/sda /whateverdirectory" 
command (or possibly mount /dev/sdb or sdc depending on if you have any 
sata drives) you can run "mkfs.fatx" and copy the folders across. The 
folder names will be 8 digit hex values to be put in the UDATA folder

Re: [Xbox-linux-user] newbie getting buried in info : XBMC

[Darren W. <chi...@ch...>]

Henk-Jan wrote:
> I guess I'll have to check to get a reader first. What card format is used ? 
> SD ?
Any flash drive stick that doesn't require drivers to run on windows xp 
is fine.
> Now do I need the original game or can I play a copied DVD of one of those 
> games ?
You need the original games. After all the box isn't hacked *yet*. You 
also need the first releases of the games (not "classix" or "platinum" 
or any other re-release).

Re: [Xbox-linux-user] newbie getting buried in info : XBMC

[Darren W. <chi...@ch...>]

Henk-Jan wrote:
> I guess I'm off for a USB stick reader (what format by the way, SD card ?) 
> and a DVD of one of the games (can Xbox 1 play copied DVD games or do I need 
> the original ?)
>
> cheers,
> Henk-Jan
>   
No, a normal usb stick is ok as long as it doesn't require any drivers 
to run on Windows XP it'll work on the xbox as well.

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Re: [Xbox-linux-user] newbie getting buried in info : XBMC

[Dustin R. <scr...@gm...>]

shrug, postage wouldnt be that bad, if you strip the xbox down, and
take out everything it doesnt need and pack it properly, probably be a
max of 20 dollars.

all i need to modify it is mobo/psu/harddrive

On 8/18/07, Henk-Jan <sm...@wa...> wrote:
> Hmm, is this what I require to get to a save game (using a USB memory stick
> I have laying around) ?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Darren Wilkinson" <chi...@ch...>
> Newsgroups: gmane.linux.ports.xbox.user
> To: <xbo...@li...>
> Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2007 12:59 AM
> Subject: Re: newbie getting buried in info : XBMC
>
>
> > Henk-Jan wrote:
> >> Ok, that is good info. What are the ups and downs on either mod (softmod
> >> uses the card reader / game thing right .. edit oops, read on HenkJan,
> >> you're too eager..) ? Any tips on what chip to get and where ? Not too
> >> worred about having to screw and fiddle, actually love to do that :)
> >>
> > No info on chipping but this website
> > (http://www.xbox-scene.com/modchips.php) as I've softmodded my box which
> > is a rather simple process itself.
> > 1. Connect usb stick to xbox & format the stick (makes an fatx filesystem)
> > 2. Download the exploit (one savegame folder and one folder with the
> > main exploit & dashboard)
> > 3. Load an  xbox-linux distro on the pc (like a normal linux distro -
> > they are pc-compatible livecds) & copy the savegame folders to the UDATA
> > folder)
> > 4. Connect the usb stick to the xbox again and copy both entries to the
> > xbox hd.
> > 5. Load the game, select the savegame & follow the onscreen instructions.
> >
> > Also sometimes modchip stores only program their chips with a bios
> > called cromwell that only loads linux-xbox distros. This is due to the
> > other bioses using Microsoft copyrighted code. You might have to find
> > out how to flash those. However there is a linux program called raincoat
> > which you can use to flash the bios with whatever you want.
> >> OK, I've seen chipd that with a flick can lock / unlock so you can keep
> >> using the Xbox as it is now, is that correct ? Again any chip advise
> >> would
> >> be welcome, although I see nice chaleenges in getting the softmod done as
> >> well.
> > The chips have an on/off switch on the front of the xbox, which disables
> > the chip. That is different from locking/unlocking. An xbox with an
> > enabled chip can use either a locked or unlocked hard disk drive. An
> > unchipped xbox or an xbox with the chip turned off needs a locked drive.
> > The modchips can lock/unlock the drives themselves though.
> >
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