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[webmin-l] Minor Bug?

[Thomas L. <th...@th...>]

I restored the config files from a previous installation - same version,
but different version of the O.S.

System says "Mandrake Linux 10.0"

Detected Operating System "Generic Linux 2.6"

Check "Update Webmin to use detected OS"

this is the result:

Error - Perl execution failed
Undefined subroutine &main::detect_operating_system called at /usr/libexec/webmin/usermin/change_os.cgi line 15.

Thomas

Re: [webmin-l] Recovery process almost complete.

[Jamie C. <jca...@we...>]

You've got a good point there .. I should really allow Virtualmin's
internal configurations to be backed up by the Backup Config Files
module as well. I will add this in future..

 - Jamie

On Thu, 2005-10-06 at 03:54, Thomas Leavitt wrote:
> Hallelujah! That did it. Totally painless (would be nice if you could
> get the webmin Backup Configuration Files option to back up VirtualMin
> as well.
> 
> Folks - Webmin saved my butt. Had all my important configuration files
> backed up to my local PC and on another hard drive on the machine. Was
> able to recover vastly easier, without stressing about extracting stuff
> from a dying hard drive. Using Webmin's recovery features for Webmin
> itself was painless.
> 
> Jaime/Joe - thank you so much! :)
> 
> Thomas
> 
> On Wed, 2005-10-05 at 06:01 -0700,
> web...@li... wrote:
> > Hi Thomas,
> > All the information about virtual servers known to virtualmin can be
> > found in the /etc/webmin/virtual-server/domains directory. If you
> > don't
> > restore that, the virtual web/dns domains will still continue to
> > operate, but virtualmin won't know about them..
> > 
> > If you have lost that directory, the only option is to re-import each
> > domain using virtualmin's import feature..
> > 
> >  - Jamie
> > 
> 
> 
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Re: [webmin-l] Failed to initialize SSL connection

[Jamie C. <jca...@we...>]

Hi Morris,
When does this error? Do you see it when trying to login, or when starting Usermin?

 - Jamie

-----Original Message-----

From:  Morris Hooten <Mor...@Su...>
Subj:  [webmin-l] Failed to initialize SSL connection
Date:  Thu 6 Oct 2005 3:04 am
Size:  604 bytes
To:  web...@li...

I'm seeing the error below in the usermin logs

Does anyone know what this is?

Thanks


Morris


Failed to initialize SSL connection


OpenSSL> version
OpenSSL 0.9.8 05 Jul 2005


Usermin Version: 	1.160



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Re: [webmin-l] Recovery process almost complete.

[Thomas L. <th...@th...>]

Hallelujah! That did it. Totally painless (would be nice if you could
get the webmin Backup Configuration Files option to back up VirtualMin
as well.

Folks - Webmin saved my butt. Had all my important configuration files
backed up to my local PC and on another hard drive on the machine. Was
able to recover vastly easier, without stressing about extracting stuff
from a dying hard drive. Using Webmin's recovery features for Webmin
itself was painless.

Jaime/Joe - thank you so much! :)

Thomas

On Wed, 2005-10-05 at 06:01 -0700,
web...@li... wrote:
> Hi Thomas,
> All the information about virtual servers known to virtualmin can be
> found in the /etc/webmin/virtual-server/domains directory. If you
> don't
> restore that, the virtual web/dns domains will still continue to
> operate, but virtualmin won't know about them..
> 
> If you have lost that directory, the only option is to re-import each
> domain using virtualmin's import feature..
> 
>  - Jamie
> 

[webmin-l] Failed to initialize SSL connection

[Morris H. <Mor...@Su...>]

I'm seeing the error below in the usermin logs

Does anyone know what this is?

Thanks


Morris


Failed to initialize SSL connection


OpenSSL> version
OpenSSL 0.9.8 05 Jul 2005


Usermin Version: 	1.160

[webmin-l] Failed to initialize SSL connection

[Morris H. <Mor...@Su...>]

I'm seeing the error below in the usermin logs

Does anyone know what this is?

Thanks


Morris


Failed to initialize SSL connection


OpenSSL> version
OpenSSL 0.9.8 05 Jul 2005


Usermin Version: 	1.160

Re: [webmin-l] Webmin

[Jesse C. S. <jsm...@ga...>]

There is three things that causes the eratic behavior.  Screwed up Cache which I think you've already purge, pressing the back button when you are reading a message instead of pressing the return to mailbox botton at the top or bottom of the email screen, and lastly if she receives a new message at the exact time she is going back into her mailbox it shifts the list.

Best bet remove the entries from her book and recreate them.
-Jesse


On 5/Oct/2005 09:00 Suspect wrote ..
> What are the requirements for being on the user council?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Tommy
> 
> Today pcu...@op... was all like:
> ** Hi,
> ** I'm Paul Cubbage, Evangelist for Open Country (OC), sponsors of Webmin.
> ** OC is working with Jamie on ways to improve Webmin but the user 
> ** community is the only real source for changing things.  I'm conducting
> ** an informal survey to find out the things the Webmin Community might
> ** like to have or find useful.
> ** 
> ** What if anything do you, the users want for Webmin?  New features? 
> ** Interface changes? Webmin T-shirts and other swag?  Please let me know
> ** 
> ** One suggestion I've made is to create a  Webmin Wiki.  If I get positive
> ** a response on the list, I will create a Wiki.
> ** Is anyone interested in being on a User Council for Webmin or Open Country?
> ** Cheers,
> ** 
> ** Paul Cubbage
> ** Evangelist
> ** Open Country, Inc.
> ** 1301 Shoreway Rd #211
> ** Belmont, CA 94002
> ** 408-472-1112(M)
> ** 
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Re: [webmin-l] Webmin

[Suspect <pr...@re...>]

What are the requirements for being on the user council?

Thanks,

Tommy

Today pcu...@op... was all like:
** Hi,
** I'm Paul Cubbage, Evangelist for Open Country (OC), sponsors of Webmin.  
** OC is working with Jamie on ways to improve Webmin but the user 
** community is the only real source for changing things.  I'm conducting 
** an informal survey to find out the things the Webmin Community might 
** like to have or find useful.
** 
** What if anything do you, the users want for Webmin?  New features? 
** Interface changes? Webmin T-shirts and other swag?  Please let me know
** 
** One suggestion I've made is to create a  Webmin Wiki.  If I get positive 
** a response on the list, I will create a Wiki.
** Is anyone interested in being on a User Council for Webmin or Open Country?
** Cheers,
** 
** Paul Cubbage
** Evangelist
** Open Country, Inc.
** 1301 Shoreway Rd #211
** Belmont, CA 94002
** 408-472-1112(M)
** 
** 
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Re: [webmin-l] Recovery process almost complete.

[Jamie C. <jca...@we...>]

On Wed, 2005-10-05 at 16:09, Thomas Leavitt wrote:
> Webmin very nicely recovered my backed up usermin and webmin users and
> configuration.
> 
> However, it is unclear whether the extra modules (to manage clamav and
> amavis-new were backed up), and I don't see an option to recover my
> virtualmin configuration.
> 
> I was able, however, to recover everything in /etc/ from the crashed
> hard drive (IBM Deathstar, "click of death", argh). If I need to, I can
> probably recover other stuff (although it gets dicier each time, the
> head gets stuck easily).
> 
> Unfortunately, I did a diff -r of the recovered /etc/webmin directory
> and the production /etc/webmin directory, both running 1.230 and I don't
> see anything to indicate where the virtualserver configuration
> information would be stored?
> 
> Recreating and reconfiguring 100 domains manually would be a real
> PITA... although, if that's all that I have left to do, I can live with
> it.

Hi Thomas,
All the information about virtual servers known to virtualmin can be
found in the /etc/webmin/virtual-server/domains directory. If you don't
restore that, the virtual web/dns domains will still continue to
operate, but virtualmin won't know about them..

If you have lost that directory, the only option is to re-import each
domain using virtualmin's import feature..

 - Jamie

[webmin-l] Recovery process almost complete.

[Thomas L. <th...@th...>]

Webmin very nicely recovered my backed up usermin and webmin users and
configuration.

However, it is unclear whether the extra modules (to manage clamav and
amavis-new were backed up), and I don't see an option to recover my
virtualmin configuration.

I was able, however, to recover everything in /etc/ from the crashed
hard drive (IBM Deathstar, "click of death", argh). If I need to, I can
probably recover other stuff (although it gets dicier each time, the
head gets stuck easily).

Unfortunately, I did a diff -r of the recovered /etc/webmin directory
and the production /etc/webmin directory, both running 1.230 and I don't
see anything to indicate where the virtualserver configuration
information would be stored?

Recreating and reconfiguring 100 domains manually would be a real
PITA... although, if that's all that I have left to do, I can live with
it.

Thomas

[webmin-l] Webmin

[Paul C. <pcu...@op...>]

Hi,
I'm Paul Cubbage, Evangelist for Open Country (OC), sponsors of Webmin.  
OC is working with Jamie on ways to improve Webmin but the user 
community is the only real source for changing things.  I'm conducting 
an informal survey to find out the things the Webmin Community might 
like to have or find useful.

What if anything do you, the users want for Webmin?  New features? 
Interface changes? Webmin T-shirts and other swag?  Please let me know

One suggestion I've made is to create a  Webmin Wiki.  If I get positive 
a response on the list, I will create a Wiki.
Is anyone interested in being on a User Council for Webmin or Open Country?
Cheers,

Paul Cubbage
Evangelist
Open Country, Inc.
1301 Shoreway Rd #211
Belmont, CA 94002
408-472-1112(M)

Re: [webmin-l] Recovery from backup.

[Thomas L. <tho...@ho...>]

... what I'm really asking about is webmin itself... if I was running 1.230 
before, can the webmin files in /etc/ and the usermin files in /etc/ be 
recovered straight up, off the old machine (since the new one will have the 
same IP addrs and hostname)?

Thomas

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Resume at http://www.thomasleavitt.org/personal/resume/

Wired since 1981. Internet-enabled since 1990. Web-enabled since 1993. 
Older, wiser, and poorer, post-crash. :)




>From: Joe Cooper <jo...@sw...>
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>Hi Thomas,
>
>Since you have upgraded to a new version of your OS (and subsequently new 
>versions of all of your applications), I would advise you proceed with 
>caution and restore only the files you need.
>
>The configuration file backup is extremely useful in a situation where you 
>are restoring from a system backup and want to get the latest version of 
>your configuration files (and in this case you can just unroll the tarball 
>right into /etc and expect everything to work fine).  Or, it can be used as 
>a "butt saver" as you've discovered, in case you screw up a working 
>configuration...in that case you pull out the one bad file.
>
>In your case, however, a wholesale configuration file overwrite with old 
>versions will be quite calamitous (OK, probably only for some files...but 
>knowing  which files is where the fun comes in).
>
>If I were in your situation, I would restore into a temporary directory, 
>make a backup copy of the "new" /etc directory, and then copy in the files 
>for each service, one at a time.  Restart the service, test it as 
>thoroughly as you can, and then move on to the next.  I'm betting theres 
>only a few (maybe a dozen) files in /etc that actually need to be 
>restored--most of my full-service (web, mail, database, Subversion, etc.) 
>servers have about that many.  Of course, some services put data elsewhere, 
>which is simply lost if you don't have a backup.  Databases store data and 
>much configuration in /var, for example.
>
>Hope this helps.
>
>Thomas Leavitt wrote:
>>Well, I didn't do a filesystem backup... that doesn't really work on an 
>>active/root filesystem (at least that's my experience).
>>
>>What I did was a configuration file backup (which actually saved my butt 
>>about 15 minutes later when I stomped an apache config file, which is why 
>>i did it).
>>
>>So, I have tmp/backup-config-manifests
>>
>>and the full /etc/
>>
>>and thus etc/webmin and etc/usermin
>>
>>... what I'm looking for, is what do I do now? Just copy everything back 
>>into /etc/ ?
>>
>>Thomas
>>
>>--
>>Thomas Leavitt -- tho...@ho..., Sr. Systems Admin For Hire
>>Resume at http://www.thomasleavitt.org/personal/resume/
>>
>>Wired since 1981. Internet-enabled since 1990. Web-enabled since 1993. 
>>Older, wiser, and poorer, post-crash. :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>From: "Tom Klem" <th...@lv...>
>>>Reply-To: web...@li...
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>>>Subject: Re: [webmin-l] Recovery from backup.
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>>>
>>>Enter webmin
>>>
>>>Click on 'System'
>>>Click on 'FileSystem Backup'
>>>
>>>If you used webmin to make them, they will all be there.
>>>
>>>I use webmin to do a level 0 once a week, and a level 9 the rest of the 
>>>time.
>>>
>>>I've recovered lost files this way many times, and it really does work 
>>>great.
>>>
>>>On the other hand, if you just used the dump command without webmin, you 
>>>will have to use the restore command. See Man pages on that puppy (ich).
>>>
>>>Tom Klem
>>>
>>>
>>>*********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********
>>>
>>>On 10/03/2005 at 1:02 PM Thomas Leavitt wrote:
>>>
>>> >My root filesystem ate itself over the weekend (IBM "Deathstar" "click 
>>>of
>>> >death").
>>> >
>>> >I've decided to go ahead and install the latest version of the 
>>>operating
>>> >system (since my system was two full revisions back of this, and for 
>>>other
>>> >reasons).
>>> >
>>> >Fortunately, I configured Webmin's backup module, so all my 
>>>configuration
>>> >files are saved.
>>> >
>>> >I've installed webmin 1.230 from the noarch.rpm (previously, it was
>>> >installed from a tarball).
>>> >
>>> >Can someone please point me to a document explaining how to recover (if
>>> >there is such a thing)?
>>> >
>>> >Regards,
>>> >Thomas Leavitt
>>> >
>>> >--
>>> >Thomas Leavitt -- tho...@ho..., Sr. Systems Admin For Hire
>>> >Resume at http://www.thomasleavitt.org/personal/resume/
>>> >
>>> >Wired since 1981. Internet-enabled since 1990. Web-enabled since 1993.
>>> >Older, wiser, and poorer, post-crash. :)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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Re: [webmin-l] Recovery from backup.

[Joe C. <jo...@sw...>]

Hi Thomas,

Since you have upgraded to a new version of your OS (and subsequently 
new versions of all of your applications), I would advise you proceed 
with caution and restore only the files you need.

The configuration file backup is extremely useful in a situation where 
you are restoring from a system backup and want to get the latest 
version of your configuration files (and in this case you can just 
unroll the tarball right into /etc and expect everything to work fine). 
  Or, it can be used as a "butt saver" as you've discovered, in case you 
screw up a working configuration...in that case you pull out the one bad 
file.

In your case, however, a wholesale configuration file overwrite with old 
versions will be quite calamitous (OK, probably only for some 
files...but knowing  which files is where the fun comes in).

If I were in your situation, I would restore into a temporary directory, 
make a backup copy of the "new" /etc directory, and then copy in the 
files for each service, one at a time.  Restart the service, test it as 
thoroughly as you can, and then move on to the next.  I'm betting theres 
only a few (maybe a dozen) files in /etc that actually need to be 
restored--most of my full-service (web, mail, database, Subversion, 
etc.) servers have about that many.  Of course, some services put data 
elsewhere, which is simply lost if you don't have a backup.  Databases 
store data and much configuration in /var, for example.

Hope this helps.

Thomas Leavitt wrote:
> Well, I didn't do a filesystem backup... that doesn't really work on an 
> active/root filesystem (at least that's my experience).
> 
> What I did was a configuration file backup (which actually saved my butt 
> about 15 minutes later when I stomped an apache config file, which is 
> why i did it).
> 
> So, I have tmp/backup-config-manifests
> 
> and the full /etc/
> 
> and thus etc/webmin and etc/usermin
> 
> ... what I'm looking for, is what do I do now? Just copy everything back 
> into /etc/ ?
> 
> Thomas
> 
> -- 
> Thomas Leavitt -- tho...@ho..., Sr. Systems Admin For Hire
> Resume at http://www.thomasleavitt.org/personal/resume/
> 
> Wired since 1981. Internet-enabled since 1990. Web-enabled since 1993. 
> Older, wiser, and poorer, post-crash. :)
> 
> 
> 
> 
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>> Enter webmin
>>
>> Click on 'System'
>> Click on 'FileSystem Backup'
>>
>> If you used webmin to make them, they will all be there.
>>
>> I use webmin to do a level 0 once a week, and a level 9 the rest of 
>> the time.
>>
>> I've recovered lost files this way many times, and it really does work 
>> great.
>>
>> On the other hand, if you just used the dump command without webmin, 
>> you will have to use the restore command. See Man pages on that puppy 
>> (ich).
>>
>> Tom Klem
>>
>>
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>> "click of
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>> >
>> >I've decided to go ahead and install the latest version of the operating
>> >system (since my system was two full revisions back of this, and for 
>> other
>> >reasons).
>> >
>> >Fortunately, I configured Webmin's backup module, so all my 
>> configuration
>> >files are saved.
>> >
>> >I've installed webmin 1.230 from the noarch.rpm (previously, it was
>> >installed from a tarball).
>> >
>> >Can someone please point me to a document explaining how to recover (if
>> >there is such a thing)?
>> >
>> >Regards,
>> >Thomas Leavitt
>> >
>> >--
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Re: [webmin-l] Recovery from backup.

[Thomas L. <tho...@ho...>]

Well, I didn't do a filesystem backup... that doesn't really work on an 
active/root filesystem (at least that's my experience).

What I did was a configuration file backup (which actually saved my butt 
about 15 minutes later when I stomped an apache config file, which is why i 
did it).

So, I have tmp/backup-config-manifests

and the full /etc/

and thus etc/webmin and etc/usermin

... what I'm looking for, is what do I do now? Just copy everything back 
into /etc/ ?

Thomas

--
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Resume at http://www.thomasleavitt.org/personal/resume/

Wired since 1981. Internet-enabled since 1990. Web-enabled since 1993. 
Older, wiser, and poorer, post-crash. :)




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>Enter webmin
>
>Click on 'System'
>Click on 'FileSystem Backup'
>
>If you used webmin to make them, they will all be there.
>
>I use webmin to do a level 0 once a week, and a level 9 the rest of the 
>time.
>
>I've recovered lost files this way many times, and it really does work 
>great.
>
>On the other hand, if you just used the dump command without webmin, you 
>will have to use the restore command. See Man pages on that puppy (ich).
>
>Tom Klem
>
>
>*********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********
>
>On 10/03/2005 at 1:02 PM Thomas Leavitt wrote:
>
> >My root filesystem ate itself over the weekend (IBM "Deathstar" "click of
> >death").
> >
> >I've decided to go ahead and install the latest version of the operating
> >system (since my system was two full revisions back of this, and for 
>other
> >reasons).
> >
> >Fortunately, I configured Webmin's backup module, so all my configuration
> >files are saved.
> >
> >I've installed webmin 1.230 from the noarch.rpm (previously, it was
> >installed from a tarball).
> >
> >Can someone please point me to a document explaining how to recover (if
> >there is such a thing)?
> >
> >Regards,
> >Thomas Leavitt
> >
> >--
> >Thomas Leavitt -- tho...@ho..., Sr. Systems Admin For Hire
> >Resume at http://www.thomasleavitt.org/personal/resume/
> >
> >Wired since 1981. Internet-enabled since 1990. Web-enabled since 1993.
> >Older, wiser, and poorer, post-crash. :)
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [webmin-l] Recovery from backup.

[Tom K. <th...@lv...>]

Enter webmin

Click on 'System'
Click on 'FileSystem Backup'

If you used webmin to make them, they will all be there.

I use webmin to do a level 0 once a week, and a level 9 the rest of the=
 time.

I've recovered lost files this way many times, and it really does work=
 great.

On the other hand, if you just used the dump command without webmin, you=
 will have to use the restore command. See Man pages on that puppy (ich).

Tom Klem


*********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********

On 10/03/2005 at 1:02 PM Thomas Leavitt wrote:

>My root filesystem ate itself over the weekend (IBM "Deathstar" "click of 
>death").
>
>I've decided to go ahead and install the latest version of the operating 
>system (since my system was two full revisions back of this, and for other=
 
>reasons).
>
>Fortunately, I configured Webmin's backup module, so all my configuration 
>files are saved.
>
>I've installed webmin 1.230 from the noarch.rpm (previously, it was 
>installed from a tarball).
>
>Can someone please point me to a document explaining how to recover (if 
>there is such a thing)?
>
>Regards,
>Thomas Leavitt
>
>--
>Thomas Leavitt -- tho...@ho..., Sr. Systems Admin For Hire
>Resume at http://www.thomasleavitt.org/personal/resume/
>
>Wired since 1981. Internet-enabled since 1990. Web-enabled since 1993. 
>Older, wiser, and poorer, post-crash. :)
>
>
>
>
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[webmin-l] Recovery from backup.

[Thomas L. <tho...@ho...>]

My root filesystem ate itself over the weekend (IBM "Deathstar" "click of 
death").

I've decided to go ahead and install the latest version of the operating 
system (since my system was two full revisions back of this, and for other 
reasons).

Fortunately, I configured Webmin's backup module, so all my configuration 
files are saved.

I've installed webmin 1.230 from the noarch.rpm (previously, it was 
installed from a tarball).

Can someone please point me to a document explaining how to recover (if 
there is such a thing)?

Regards,
Thomas Leavitt

--
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Resume at http://www.thomasleavitt.org/personal/resume/

Wired since 1981. Internet-enabled since 1990. Web-enabled since 1993. 
Older, wiser, and poorer, post-crash. :)

[webmin-l] [FAQ] Webmin/Usermin/Virtualmin - On the fly updates

[Martin M. <mm...@me...>]

######################################################################

History:
--------

03.10.2005
Virtualmin-Development-Version 2.604 released

02.10.2005
Webmin-Development-Version 1.231 released

20.09.2005
Webmin-Version 1.230 released as stable
Usermin-Version 1.160 released as stable

16.09.2005
Usermin-Development-Version 1.155 released

03.05.2005
Virtualmin-Version 2.60 released as stable

######################################################################

Current Stable Release for Webmin is 1.230
http://webmin.mamemu.de/devel/tarballs/webmin-1.230.tar.gz
http://webmin.mamemu.de/devel/tarballs/webmin-1.230-1.noarch.rpm
http://webmin.mamemu.de/devel/tarballs/webmin-1.230-minimal.tar.gz

Current Development Release for Webmin is 1.231
http://webmin.mamemu.de/devel/tarballs/webmin-1.231.tar.gz

Current Stable Release for Usermin is 1.160
http://webmin.mamemu.de/devel/tarballs/usermin-1.160.tar.gz
http://webmin.mamemu.de/devel/tarballs/usermin-1.160-1.noarch.rpm

Current Development Release for Usermin is 1.155
http://webmin.mamemu.de/devel/tarballs/usermin-1.155.tar.gz

Current Stable Release for VirtualMin is 2.60
http://webmin.mamemu.de/download/virtualmin/virtual-server-2.60.wbm.gz

Current Development Release for VirtualMin is 2.604
http://webmin.mamemu.de/download/virtualmin/virtual-server-2.604.wbm.gz
	
######################################################################

Important notice:
There are three announcments for stable versions.

a) Maybe the first one comes with a "on the fly"-update.
b) Paying sourceforge-members who are subscribed to notifications
about webmin/usermin-file uploads.
c) The one and only official one comes from Jamie Cameron directly.

Virtualmin has gone Virtualmin Pro:
Jamie Cameron and Joe Cooper founded Virtualmin Inc.
Please visit http://www.virtualmin.com/ for details

If you are anoyed by these post you can filter this with procmail
scanning for

X-Webmin: update

in the header.


bis dahin - kind regards

Martin Mewes

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Re: [webmin-l] Re: Usermin : Change Password Home Dir Required?

[Jamie C. <jca...@we...>]

Hi Rob,
That is odd, because I thought I made that change in my code ... perhaps I released a slightly older version by accident. Well, it will definately be fixed in the next Usermin release :-)

 - Jamie

-----Original Message-----

From:  Rob Thomas <wel...@gm...>
Subj:  Re: [webmin-l] Re: Usermin : Change Password Home Dir Required?
Date:  Mon 3 Oct 2005 7:24 pm
Size:  456 bytes
To:  web...@li...

As my previous message was too big here is the short version. Worked it out, the if statement which checks for the new mailbox parameter hadn't been changed in the updated changepass.cgi script i.e. change this .... 
 
  if (amp;foreign_check(mailbox)) { 
  
  to this .... 
 
 if ($config{'mailbox'} amp;amp; amp;foreign_check(mailbox)) {

 Thanks for the help Jamie. 
  

Re: [webmin-l] Re: Usermin : Change Password Home Dir Required?

[Rob T. <wel...@gm...>]

As my previous message was too big here is the short version. Worked it out=
,
the if statement which checks for the new mailbox parameter hadn't been
changed in the updated changepass.cgi script i.e. change this ....

if (&foreign_check("mailbox")) {

to this ....

if ($config{'mailbox'} && &foreign_check("mailbox")) {

Thanks for the help Jamie.

Re: [webmin-l] Edit qutoa's problem

[Obantec S. <su...@ob...>]

Hi Jamie

i do now but i am waiting for confirmation that my APC port will respond to
power off / on just in case it locks up again.
when i updated the quota pre the new version my servers Load Average went
thru the roof making the server unreachable.

as the server has been stable for 207 days i can only point the finger at
the old quota module.

i will let you know what happens later today.

Mark

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jamie Cameron" <jca...@we...>
To: <web...@li...>
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 8:33 AM
Subject: Re: [webmin-l] Edit qutoa's problem


> Hi Mark,
> Do you have the latest update to the quotas module from
www.webmin.com/updates.html installed? It may fix this bug ..
>
>  - Jamie
>
<snip>

Re: [webmin-l] Perl error - Undefined symbol "PL_exit_flags"

[Jamie C. <jca...@we...>]

Hi Mark,
This definately looks like an internal Perl bug to me, rather than a problem with Webmin ... although I have never seen it before. I would recommend upgrading or downgrading Perl if possible.

 - Jamie

-----Original Message-----

From:  Mark Edwards <ma...@an...>
Subj:  [webmin-l] Perl error - Undefined symbol "PL_exit_flags"
Date:  Mon 3 Oct 2005 10:02 am
Size:  1K
To:  web...@li...

I'm getting the following error in the browser when trying to write a  
change to a crontab using the webmin crontab edit function:

/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/bin/perl: Undefined symbol  
"PL_exit_flags"
crontab: "/usr/local/lib/webmin/cron/cron_editor.pl" exited with  
status 1

A Google search turns up some articles about Perl being broken after  
a 5.8.7 upgrade on FreeBSD (I'm running FreeBSD 4.11), but before  
tearing apart my Perl install, I thought I would see if anyone has  
seen such and knows what causes it in this case.

I'm not seeing any other odd behavior from Perl, for what its worth.

Thanks!

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RE: [webmin-l] Virtualmin/BIND template

[Thomas E D. <ed...@al...>]

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: web...@li... 
> [mailto:web...@li...] On Behalf 
> Of Jamie Cameron
> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 8:52 PM
> To: web...@li...
> Subject: RE: [webmin-l] Virtualmin/BIND template
> 
> On Mon, 2005-10-03 at 10:43, Thomas E Dukes wrote:
> >  
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: web...@li...
> > > [mailto:web...@li...] On Behalf Of 
> > > Jamie Cameron
> > > Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 7:53 PM
> > > To: web...@li...
> > > Subject: Re: [webmin-l] Virtualmin/BIND template
> > > 
> > > On Mon, 2005-10-03 at 01:04, Thomas E Dukes wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > > 
> > > > Apparently there have been some changes in virtualmin that
> > > I have not
> > > > noticed.
> > > > 
> > > > Previously, I'm sure VM was creating DNS records for
> > > virtual servers,
> > > > however now it is not.  In Server Tmplates under the BIND
> > > DNS records
> > > > for new domains, the box is now blank.  The checkbox,
> > > Record mode, Add
> > > > to automatically generated records is now checked.
> > > 
> > > That is the default setup. Basically, it means that 
> Virtualmin will 
> > > generate the DNS records automatically based on the features you 
> > > select for a virtual server, and will not add any custom 
> records. In 
> > > 99% of cases, this is what most admins want..
> > > 
> > > > I guess this is OK but what is it?  Also, I noticed none of
> > > my virtual
> > > > servers are listed in named.conf.  Previously, they 
> were.  I don't 
> > > > know if these are related but everything is still working.
> > > 
> > > That's odd, they should be listed in named.conf . When adding the 
> > > domain, did you select the 'Set up DNS zone?' option?
> > > 
> > It's been a while since I added a virtual host.   I'm sure I did the
> > 'default' setup.  There are files in /var/named/ for the 
> virtual hosts 
> > that virtualmin created.  I don't know what changed my 
> named.conf but 
> > everything is still working.
> > 
> > The 'Set up DNS zone' is checked by default, but I don't have a 
> > template setup in the 'Server Template', never did.  Everything has 
> > always worked out of the box. I'm not sure what has stepped 
> all-over 
> > my named.conf file.  I am running webmin 1.230 and 
> virtualmin 2.604 on 
> > a CentOS 4.1 system running BIND 9.2.4.
> > 
> > I don't know if this is a problem but I thought it was very strange.
> > 
> > What should  I do?
> 
> If it's working, I wouldn't worry too much :-) Perhaps the 
> new zone is being added to an include file of named.conf , 
> like /etc/named.conf.local  ?


I know !  If it ain't broke, don't fix it. :-)

I have a named.custom but they are not list there either.

Beats the heck outta me!

Thanks,

Eddie

RE: [webmin-l] Virtualmin/BIND template

[Jamie C. <jca...@we...>]

On Mon, 2005-10-03 at 10:43, Thomas E Dukes wrote:
>  
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: web...@li... 
> > [mailto:web...@li...] On Behalf 
> > Of Jamie Cameron
> > Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 7:53 PM
> > To: web...@li...
> > Subject: Re: [webmin-l] Virtualmin/BIND template
> > 
> > On Mon, 2005-10-03 at 01:04, Thomas E Dukes wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > Apparently there have been some changes in virtualmin that 
> > I have not 
> > > noticed.
> > > 
> > > Previously, I'm sure VM was creating DNS records for 
> > virtual servers, 
> > > however now it is not.  In Server Tmplates under the BIND 
> > DNS records 
> > > for new domains, the box is now blank.  The checkbox, 
> > Record mode, Add 
> > > to automatically generated records is now checked.
> > 
> > That is the default setup. Basically, it means that 
> > Virtualmin will generate the DNS records automatically based 
> > on the features you select for a virtual server, and will not 
> > add any custom records. In 99% of cases, this is what most 
> > admins want..
> > 
> > > I guess this is OK but what is it?  Also, I noticed none of 
> > my virtual 
> > > servers are listed in named.conf.  Previously, they were.  I don't 
> > > know if these are related but everything is still working.
> > 
> > That's odd, they should be listed in named.conf . When adding 
> > the domain, did you select the 'Set up DNS zone?' option?
> > 
> It's been a while since I added a virtual host.   I'm sure I did the
> 'default' setup.  There are files in /var/named/ for the virtual hosts that
> virtualmin created.  I don't know what changed my named.conf but everything
> is still working.
> 
> The 'Set up DNS zone' is checked by default, but I don't have a template
> setup in the 'Server Template', never did.  Everything has always worked out
> of the box. I'm not sure what has stepped all-over my named.conf file.  I am
> running webmin 1.230 and virtualmin 2.604 on a CentOS 4.1 system running
> BIND 9.2.4.
> 
> I don't know if this is a problem but I thought it was very strange.
> 
> What should  I do?

If it's working, I wouldn't worry too much :-)
Perhaps the new zone is being added to an include file of named.conf ,
like /etc/named.conf.local  ?
 
 - Jamie

RE: [webmin-l] Virtualmin/BIND template

[Thomas E D. <ed...@al...>]

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: web...@li... 
> [mailto:web...@li...] On Behalf 
> Of Jamie Cameron
> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 7:53 PM
> To: web...@li...
> Subject: Re: [webmin-l] Virtualmin/BIND template
> 
> On Mon, 2005-10-03 at 01:04, Thomas E Dukes wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > Apparently there have been some changes in virtualmin that 
> I have not 
> > noticed.
> > 
> > Previously, I'm sure VM was creating DNS records for 
> virtual servers, 
> > however now it is not.  In Server Tmplates under the BIND 
> DNS records 
> > for new domains, the box is now blank.  The checkbox, 
> Record mode, Add 
> > to automatically generated records is now checked.
> 
> That is the default setup. Basically, it means that 
> Virtualmin will generate the DNS records automatically based 
> on the features you select for a virtual server, and will not 
> add any custom records. In 99% of cases, this is what most 
> admins want..
> 
> > I guess this is OK but what is it?  Also, I noticed none of 
> my virtual 
> > servers are listed in named.conf.  Previously, they were.  I don't 
> > know if these are related but everything is still working.
> 
> That's odd, they should be listed in named.conf . When adding 
> the domain, did you select the 'Set up DNS zone?' option?
> 
It's been a while since I added a virtual host.   I'm sure I did the
'default' setup.  There are files in /var/named/ for the virtual hosts that
virtualmin created.  I don't know what changed my named.conf but everything
is still working.

The 'Set up DNS zone' is checked by default, but I don't have a template
setup in the 'Server Template', never did.  Everything has always worked out
of the box. I'm not sure what has stepped all-over my named.conf file.  I am
running webmin 1.230 and virtualmin 2.604 on a CentOS 4.1 system running
BIND 9.2.4.

I don't know if this is a problem but I thought it was very strange.

What should  I do?

TIA

Eddie

Re: [webmin-l] Filesystem Backup Module Feedback

[Alan D. <We...@Om...>]

On 10/1/2005 8:57 PM, Jamie Cameron wrote:
> On Fri, 2005-09-30 at 22:56, Alan Dobkin wrote:
>> /On 9/29/2005 9:07 PM, Jamie Cameron wrote:
>>> On Fri, 2005-09-30 at 03:52, Alan Dobkin wrote:
>>>   
>>>> As a possible resolution, perhaps each backup could be assigned a job
>>>> number to identify it, and/or the selection list could other attributes,
>>>> such as the dump level and the parent job's schedule.  Or, better yet,
>>>> it could use a move up/down interface similar to the rule configuration
>>>> tables in the Linux Firewall module.
>>>>     
>>>
>>> How about if the list of dumps includes the destination and level as
>>> well? That way you could more easily know which one is being selected..
>>>   
>>
>> That would be helpful, but there could still be multiple jobs with
>> the same destination and level scheduled at different times.  For it
>> to really be unique, I think it would have to display all three
>> fields and/or a job number.  The move up/down interface seems like a
>> more elegant direction though, because it would be easier to display
>> and modify the connections based on a parent/child relationship, and
>> they would all display in the correct order in the summary table. 
>> But I'm sure the former is much easier to code than the latter, and
>> it would still be functional./ 
> I will have to see if I can fit the schedule in the list as well.
> A table wouldn't really make sense, as you are not defining an
> ordering, but more of a list or tree of backups.

That's true, but I was thinking more of separate tables for each
chain/branch, similar to the Linux Firewall module.  Either way though,
it will be a welcome improvement to differentiate the jobs.  What I did
in the meantime was temporarily rename the duplicate jobs on the same
directories by prefixing an extra slash just so I could finish setting
them up, and then I went back and removed them afterwards.

>>>> /The other improvement that I would like to suggest is a way to retain
>>>> multiple backups and auto-expire them after a given amount of time.  For
>>>> example, it is bad practice to overwrite a good backup with a second
>>>> (possibly bad) backup.  Instead, the second backup should be written to
>>>> a second destination (file, tape, remote host, etc.), and then the first
>>>> backup can be deleted after a set amount of time.  This could be
>>>> extended to retain any number of old backups before expiring/deleting
>>>> them, similar to how the logrotate program keeps a certain number of old
>>>> backlogs.  In order to accomplish this now, I have to create multiple
>>>> backup jobs for each repetition, which is very cumbersome.  But again, I
>>>> would welcome any suggestions if someone knows of a better way to do
>>>> this given the current interface.
>>>>     /
>>>> / /
>>> /
>>> /
>>> /I can't really make any suggestions here, apart from perhaps doing
>>> backups with data-based filenames, and setting up a cron job to delete
>>> backups older that a certain number of days.
>>>
>>>  - Jamie/
>>> / /
>> /
>> I already set the filenames based on the directory that is being
>> backed up, but how would that allow retention of multiple backups of
>> the same directory?  I guess I could create separate jobs for each
>> day of the week, for example, and then they would automatically
>> overwrite the file from the previous week.  But setting that up for
>> multiple directories would be cumbersome.  For example, all of these
>> jobs would have to be created separately:
>>
>> home-mon
>> home-tues
>> home-wed
>> ...
>>
>> etc-mon
>> etc-tues
>> etc-wed
>> ...
>>
>> same for var, usr, etc....
>>
>> Is there an easier way to accomplish something like this, or am I
>> asking too much of this module?/ 
> Have you looked into using the strftime format code feature, which can
> be enabled on the Module Config page? You can then use codes like %d
> for the day of the month or %a for the day of the week in the backup
> destination.
>
> - Jamie
>
No, I hadn't thought of that yet, but it's a great idea.  In the
meantime, I am using the options to run a command before and after each
backup to save a copy of the previous backup before overwriting it with
the new one.

Thanks,
Alan