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[Benjamin M. <be...@me...>]

Why is webmin users in its own module and not in the webmin configuration?  
Would it make more sense to move it in there?

-Benjamin Meyer

Re: icon art etc

[Benjamin M. <be...@me...>]

> To do stuff like that, you need to override the index.cgi program in your
> theme. Have a look at the included caldera theme for an example.. it has
> it's own index.cgi which outputs a top-bottom frameset.

caldera uses frames.

> > Where are the header and footer functions located?  Will it be easy to
> > overload them in my theme?
>
> > I presume that all of the icons currently have a bsd licence with them?
>
> Yeah, all the code and graphics in the main webmin distribution are BSD
> licenced. Yours can be whatever you want though ..

I do not wish to fork my code from yours, I wish to contribute to the default 
codebase thus everything I make will have a bsd license.

-Benjamin Meyer

Re: icon art etc

[Jamie C. <jca...@we...>]

Benjamin Meyer wrote:
> 
> ok, I have already created a theme and I have it up and running.  Doesn't
> look to bad if I do say myself.  Upon further designing of the "theme" I
> relized that the grid icon approch isn't the best one, but a
> pure vertical is a much better design.  The human eye can read vertically
> much faster then it can horizontally and much much faster then a grid.  If
> possible having the smaller vertical listing always on the left.  The only
> way I was able to find to do this is to use frames.  I can include stuff in
> the top of the body and the bottom, but I can't include a cgi page (or can
> I?)  If possible I would like to not have to use frames, can the feature be
> added in the theme for bodycgiinclude for body top and bottom?  This would
> all for much earlier web apps to view my "theme" and cleaner html.

To do stuff like that, you need to override the index.cgi program in your
theme. Have a look at the included caldera theme for an example.. it has
it's own index.cgi which outputs a top-bottom frameset.

> Where are the header and footer functions located?  Will it be easy to
> overload them in my theme?

You can't do that. However, there are somethings you can put in the
theme's config file to include extra stuff in the header and footer.
 
> Because in my "theme" I have a listing on the left I do not use the icons off
> the top, but I would like to have them placed to the left of the module name
> and also I wish to dump the module help data at the bottom of the module (in
> the footer)

You could do that with your index.cgi
 
> I presume that all of the icons currently have a bsd licence with them?

Yeah, all the code and graphics in the main webmin distribution are BSD
licenced. Yours can be whatever you want though ..

 - Jamie
 
> -Benjamin Meyer
> 
> On Sunday 17 June 2001 18:58, you wrote:
> > Benjamin Meyer wrote:
> > > Hi there, I finally downloaded and installed webmin after looking at it
> > > for about a year.  I currently do not know perl (but recently bought a
> > > book) but no fret for I would like to help in a different area anyway.  I
> > > noticed that a number of the icons need some work.  Other then being
> > > 48x48 is are there other rules?  Is there someone I can work with (i.e.
> > > is there someone already asigned to this job) to create a set of rich
> > > high quality icons (and rules) for all of the default install?  Webmin is
> > > a very feature rich application and filled with many good modules, but it
> > > needs a little polish and I would like to help out in that regard.
> >
> > The 48 x 48 size is the only real rule for icons..
> > If you want to create your own set, the best way to do it at first is by
> > creating your own theme, which allows you to override the default icons.
> > Have a look at http://www.webmin.com/webmin/modules.html#theme for the
> > technical details.
> >
> >  - Jamie

Re: image error

[Jamie C. <jca...@we...>]

Damn, you're right! I don't know how some of the letters missed
their transparency like that .. anyway, it will have to wait till
the next release to be fixed.

 - Jamie

Benjamin Meyer wrote:
> 
> no I mean in the letter images.  I see that you made every letter as a image
> and the "/" letter gif file doesn't have transparency.
> 
> -Ben
> 
> On Sunday 17 June 2001 19:04, Jamie Cameron wrote:
> > Benjamin Meyer wrote:
> > > the "/" image doesn't have transperancy set on it.
> >
> > You mean the newlogo.gif image on the main page?
> > Sure it does ..
> >
> >  - Jamie

Re: Linux Bootup Configuration

[Joe C. <jo...@sw...>]

And what if you don't know what the heck LILO is?

I think Linux Bootup Configuration is fine.  (And it is in keeping with 
Webmin's attempt, where possible, to use plain english terms to describe 
what things are about.)

There are other types of OS loaders (Grub being the obvious successor to 
LILO, if succession is to occur--which is not a foregone conclusion), 
but Webmin only supports LILO, and odds are good that it's probably 
sensible to put them both into the same module (with an auto-detect or 
manual configure of which loader is being used).

Benjamin Meyer wrote:

> This should be called "Lilo Configuration" and not "Linux bootup 
> configurations" for several reasons.  First off being that it is for lilo and 
> nothing else second there are other boot loaders for linux and third someone 
> might use lilo on a non linux unix.
> 
> -Benjamin Meyer

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Re: Linux Bootup Configuration

[Benjamin M. <be...@me...>]

To use lilo you (generally) compile a new kernel and then touch up lilo.  
Compiling a kernel is not small task and in every howto etc out there they 
ask you to go modify lilo and go into detail with lilo.  Athough we are 
trying to dumb down the frontend we do not want to confuse the user.  My 
points still stand.  As not fun as it is (because the translations need to be 
checked i.e. remove "linux bootloader" and replace with "lilo" for each 
translation)  It should be done.

-Benjamin Meyer

On Sunday 17 June 2001 23:56, you wrote:
> Benjamin Meyer wrote:
> > This should be called "Lilo Configuration" and not "Linux bootup
> > configurations" for several reasons.  First off being that it is for lilo
> > and nothing else second there are other boot loaders for linux and third
> > someone might use lilo on a non linux unix.
>
> Try .. but the average person might not know that LILO is the
> Linux boot loader. That's why I chose that name.
>
>  - Jamie
>
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Re: logout

[Jamie C. <jca...@we...>]

Benjamin Meyer wrote:
> 
> When you go to the login screen I presume that it calls header and footer
> because the lines show up, I am still learning how perl, but where is the
> code that generates the login page located?

In session_login.cgi

 - Jamie

Re: Linux Bootup Configuration

[Jamie C. <jca...@we...>]

Benjamin Meyer wrote:
> 
> This should be called "Lilo Configuration" and not "Linux bootup
> configurations" for several reasons.  First off being that it is for lilo and
> nothing else second there are other boot loaders for linux and third someone
> might use lilo on a non linux unix.

Try .. but the average person might not know that LILO is the
Linux boot loader. That's why I chose that name.

 - Jamie

logout

[Benjamin M. <be...@me...>]

When you go to the login screen I presume that it calls header and footer 
because the lines show up, I am still learning how perl, but where is the 
code that generates the login page located?

-Ben

Re: icon art etc

[Benjamin M. <be...@me...>]

ok, I have already created a theme and I have it up and running.  Doesn't 
look to bad if I do say myself.  Upon further designing of the "theme" I 
relized that the grid icon approch isn't the best one, but a 
pure vertical is a much better design.  The human eye can read vertically 
much faster then it can horizontally and much much faster then a grid.  If 
possible having the smaller vertical listing always on the left.  The only 
way I was able to find to do this is to use frames.  I can include stuff in 
the top of the body and the bottom, but I can't include a cgi page (or can 
I?)  If possible I would like to not have to use frames, can the feature be 
added in the theme for bodycgiinclude for body top and bottom?  This would 
all for much earlier web apps to view my "theme" and cleaner html.  

Where are the header and footer functions located?  Will it be easy to 
overload them in my theme?

Because in my "theme" I have a listing on the left I do not use the icons off 
the top, but I would like to have them placed to the left of the module name 
and also I wish to dump the module help data at the bottom of the module (in 
the footer)

I presume that all of the icons currently have a bsd licence with them?

-Benjamin Meyer


On Sunday 17 June 2001 18:58, you wrote:
> Benjamin Meyer wrote:
> > Hi there, I finally downloaded and installed webmin after looking at it
> > for about a year.  I currently do not know perl (but recently bought a
> > book) but no fret for I would like to help in a different area anyway.  I
> > noticed that a number of the icons need some work.  Other then being
> > 48x48 is are there other rules?  Is there someone I can work with (i.e.
> > is there someone already asigned to this job) to create a set of rich
> > high quality icons (and rules) for all of the default install?  Webmin is
> > a very feature rich application and filled with many good modules, but it
> > needs a little polish and I would like to help out in that regard.
>
> The 48 x 48 size is the only real rule for icons..
> If you want to create your own set, the best way to do it at first is by
> creating your own theme, which allows you to override the default icons.
> Have a look at http://www.webmin.com/webmin/modules.html#theme for the
> technical details.
>
>  - Jamie
>
> -
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Linux Bootup Configuration

[Benjamin M. <be...@me...>]

This should be called "Lilo Configuration" and not "Linux bootup 
configurations" for several reasons.  First off being that it is for lilo and 
nothing else second there are other boot loaders for linux and third someone 
might use lilo on a non linux unix.

-Benjamin Meyer

Re: image error

[Benjamin M. <be...@me...>]

no I mean in the letter images.  I see that you made every letter as a image 
and the "/" letter gif file doesn't have transparency.

-Ben

On Sunday 17 June 2001 19:04, Jamie Cameron wrote:
> Benjamin Meyer wrote:
> > the "/" image doesn't have transperancy set on it.
>
> You mean the newlogo.gif image on the main page?
> Sure it does ..
>
>  - Jamie
>
> -
> Forwarded by the Webmin development list at web...@we...
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Re: image error

[Jamie C. <jca...@we...>]

Benjamin Meyer wrote:
> 
> the "/" image doesn't have transperancy set on it.

You mean the newlogo.gif image on the main page?
Sure it does ..

 - Jamie

Re: Date And Time

[Jamie C. <jca...@we...>]

Benjamin Meyer wrote:
> 
> I redid the entire Date and Time module html with a better ui, who should I
> sumit it too?

Email it to me at jca...@we... .. if it's good, I will include it
in the next release.

 - Jamie

Re: icon art etc

[Jamie C. <jca...@we...>]

Benjamin Meyer wrote:
> 
> Hi there, I finally downloaded and installed webmin after looking at it for
> about a year.  I currently do not know perl (but recently bought a book) but
> no fret for I would like to help in a different area anyway.  I noticed that
> a number of the icons need some work.  Other then being 48x48 is are there
> other rules?  Is there someone I can work with (i.e. is there someone already
> asigned to this job) to create a set of rich high quality icons (and rules)
> for all of the default install?  Webmin is a very feature rich application
> and filled with many good modules, but it needs a little polish and I would
> like to help out in that regard.

The 48 x 48 size is the only real rule for icons..
If you want to create your own set, the best way to do it at first is by
creating your own theme, which allows you to override the default icons.
Have a look at http://www.webmin.com/webmin/modules.html#theme for the
technical details.

 - Jamie

Date And Time

[Benjamin M. <be...@me...>]

I redid the entire Date and Time module html with a better ui, who should I 
sumit it too?

-Ben

process manager

[Benjamin M. <be...@me...>]

At the top there is a "Display:"  It should be "Sort By:".  Also Search and 
Run.. should be on another line. so it doesn't look like you can search them.

-Ben

Create user

[Benjamin M. <be...@me...>]

Small and trivial, but hey

In create user in password options "password changed" should be password 
changed last"


Also in the help for the copy files to home dir, it states that normal files 
like .profile etc are copied it, but it doesn't specify anywhere what those 
are.

-Ben

image error

[Benjamin M. <be...@me...>]

the "/" image doesn't have transperancy set on it.

-Ben

Re: System time module

[Benjamin M. <be...@me...>]

Even better would be to put them them both on the bottom as 1.

-Ben

P.S.  How hard would it be to add timezone to the time module?

On Sunday 17 June 2001 11:12, you wrote:
> In the system time module:
>
> The two "set" buttons have different names, they should both be apply or
> both be save.
>
> The : seperating the clock time can made to be in the middle of the table
> via valign=center for that cell.
>
> -Ben
>
>
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Module Help

[Benjamin M. <be...@me...>]

Is there a web in my "theme" to have the help for any module appended to the 
modules main page?  (right under the title or at the bottom)

I think that this would be a very usefull feature for it would cause the 
modules writers to actually write help on what that modules does and it 
because the documentation isn't very big in the first place have it in a easy 
spot for users to read.

-Ben

System time module

[Benjamin M. <be...@me...>]

In the system time module:

The two "set" buttons have different names, they should both be apply or both 
be save.

The : seperating the clock time can made to be in the middle of the table via 
valign=center for that cell.

-Ben

icon art etc

[Benjamin M. <be...@me...>]

Hi there, I finally downloaded and installed webmin after looking at it for 
about a year.  I currently do not know perl (but recently bought a book) but 
no fret for I would like to help in a different area anyway.  I noticed that 
a number of the icons need some work.  Other then being 48x48 is are there 
other rules?  Is there someone I can work with (i.e. is there someone already 
asigned to this job) to create a set of rich high quality icons (and rules) 
for all of the default install?  Webmin is a very feature rich application 
and filled with many good modules, but it needs a little polish and I would 
like to help out in that regard.

-Benjamin Meyer

P.S. for those that want to see that I know a bit about art see: 
http://www.csh.rit.edu/~benjamin/desktop/drawings.shtml

Re: Can I make webmin bind just one IP?

[Joe C. <jo...@sw...>]

Short answer is 'Webmin Configuration:Port and Address'

Longer answer is in the guide:

http://www.swelltech.com/support/webminguide/webmin-config.html#WMPORTADDRESS

Diego M. Vadell - UYR wrote:

> Hi!
>    I have webmin installed in a linux router with two interfaces, and I 
> thought it would be great to make miniserv.pl listen in only one of them... 
> Is it possible? (Im sure it is). How can I do that?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Diego. 



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Re: Can I make webmin bind just one IP? - sorry!!

[Diego M. V. - U. <dv...@uy...>]

Sorry!! I have just found it!! Thanks anyway.

Diego.

> Hi!
>    I have webmin installed in a linux router with two interfaces, and I
>    
> thought it would be great to make miniserv.pl listen in only one of
> them...  Is it possible? (Im sure it is). How can I do that?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Diego. 
> 
> 
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