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Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] [Tuxpaint-cvs] tuxpaint/src tuxpaint.c, 1.531, 1.532

[TOYAMA Shin-i. <sh...@wm...>]

I've confirmed it is fixed.
Thanks!

>On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 01:18:29AM +0000, John Popplewell wrote:
>> Update of /cvsroot/tuxpaint/tuxpaint/src
>> In directory sc8-pr-cvs10.sourceforge.net:/tmp/cvs-serv20828/src
>> 
>> Modified Files:
>> 	tuxpaint.c 
>> Log Message:
>> Fix for 'Stamp text bug'.
>> 
>
>John beat me to it!  Thx! :)
>
>-bill!

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Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] [Tuxpaint-cvs] tuxpaint/src tuxpaint.c, 1.531, 1.532

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 01:18:29AM +0000, John Popplewell wrote:
> Update of /cvsroot/tuxpaint/tuxpaint/src
> In directory sc8-pr-cvs10.sourceforge.net:/tmp/cvs-serv20828/src
> 
> Modified Files:
> 	tuxpaint.c 
> Log Message:
> Fix for 'Stamp text bug'.
> 

John beat me to it!  Thx! :)

-bill!

Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Tux Paint 0.9.16 build for Mac OS X?

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 11:53:33PM -0600, Martin Fuhrer wrote:
> 
> Actually, scratch the foreign font problems.  XCode was bundling  
> the .ttf fonts incorrectly, so Tux Paint was unable to load them.   
> I've fixed the XCode project (can't believe I didn't notice this  
> problem in the earlier Tux Paint versions!), and Chinese Traditional  
> and Japanese fonts now work fine.  Tux Paint is still displaying  
> squares for Korean and Chinese Simplified fonts - however, this  
> appears to be because the required fonts (ko.ttf and zh_cn.ttf) are  
> missing from my CVS workspace (presumably, they should be in the  
> fonts/locale directory along with the other foreign fonts).  Are  
> these fonts available anywhere?

They are not in the main Tux Paint project, because they are too large.
You can download them from here:

  http://www.tuxpaint.org/download/fonts/

:)

Thx!

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Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Tux Paint 0.9.16 build for Mac OS X?

[Martin F. <mf...@gm...>]

On 17-Oct-06, at 4:59 AM, Mark K. Kim wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 09:41:55PM -0600, Martin Fuhrer wrote:
>
>>    Hmm... including SDL_ttf 2.0.6 doesn't help.* I also ran Tux  
>> Paint 0.9.14
>>    and 0.9.15 and I also get the squares with the Korean language  
>> selected,
>>    so the problem may have been around for quite a while on the  
>> Mac side of
>>    things.**
>
> Oh no...  Thank you for looking into this, as I have no Mac to test it
> out on myself!

Actually, scratch the foreign font problems.  XCode was bundling  
the .ttf fonts incorrectly, so Tux Paint was unable to load them.   
I've fixed the XCode project (can't believe I didn't notice this  
problem in the earlier Tux Paint versions!), and Chinese Traditional  
and Japanese fonts now work fine.  Tux Paint is still displaying  
squares for Korean and Chinese Simplified fonts - however, this  
appears to be because the required fonts (ko.ttf and zh_cn.ttf) are  
missing from my CVS workspace (presumably, they should be in the  
fonts/locale directory along with the other foreign fonts).  Are  
these fonts available anywhere?

Martin

Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] "Hidden" OS X folders in Tux Paint Config 'Save Directory' browser

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 05:59:34PM -0600, Martin Fuhrer wrote:
> Well, I think the easiest way to prevent this would be to launch a  
> standard Mac OS X file dialog box instead of the FLTK dialog.  I'll  
> have to think about how to do this, though it should be possible...

Ok, cool, thanks!  Feel free to throw it in the code in CVS once you get
something, and just wrap it around #ifdef's, I guess.

Thx again!  (I'm not in a huge hurry for the upcoming version, since it's
not a showstopper, and will be happy to release an update whenever, since this
issue isn't tied to any Tux Paint core feature.)

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Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] "Hidden" OS X folders in Tux Paint Config 'Save Directory' browser

[Martin F. <mf...@gm...>]

>
> Martin, do you think there's a way we can, at least by default, not  
> show
> these?  I'm guessing FLTK's looking at things in a very Unix  
> fashion, and
> therefore exposing stuff that's normally hidden during normal  
> Finder browsing
> in OS X.

Well, I think the easiest way to prevent this would be to launch a  
standard Mac OS X file dialog box instead of the FLTK dialog.  I'll  
have to think about how to do this, though it should be possible...

Martin

Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Stamp text Bug.

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 12:47:37PM +0900, TOYAMA Shin-ichi wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> There still remains stamp text bug.
> 
> 1) Select Stamp Tool
> 2) Select some stamp.
> 3) Put stamp on canvas
> 4) Wait a little
> 5) Boxes again!!

Good catch!  (Confirmed in Win32 rc6)  I'll try to fix that this evening!

-bill!

Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Tux Paint 0.9.16 build for Mac OS X?

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 09:15:02PM -0600, Martin Fuhrer wrote:
> 
> I can look into it.  Could you or John provide me with a screenshot  
> of the Windows installer for reference?

  http://www.tuxpaint.org/screenshots/tuxpaint-stamps-win32-installer.png

:)

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Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Tux Paint 0.9.16 build for Mac OS X?

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 09:41:55PM -0600, Martin Fuhrer wrote:
> I'll throw in the HTML docs as well!

:)


> Alternatively, I could include  
> the HTML and/or text documents inside the Tux Paint application  
> bundle and make them accessible via the Help menu (from the Mac  
> menubar).

Since there's a "Help" menu item already, that'd be groovy, thanks! :)

Could you do both?  (So people don't have to launch Tux Paint just to
read the README)

-bill!

[Tuxpaint-devel] "Hidden" OS X folders in Tux Paint Config 'Save Directory' browser

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

Someone just wrote in:

<snip>
> after playing around with the settings I've found a potential security risk
> and should be looked into.  When trying to browse for an alternative
> location for saving pictures, the finder window will show all the hidden
> directories and almost none of the regular ones.  For example, it will
> show the /var (A hidden Mac OS X dir) and the /Desktop Folder (a hidden
> classic OS9 dir).  I am using the latest downloadable version 0.9.15 for
> Mac OS X on 10.3.9 machines.

Martin, do you think there's a way we can, at least by default, not show
these?  I'm guessing FLTK's looking at things in a very Unix fashion, and
therefore exposing stuff that's normally hidden during normal Finder browsing
in OS X.

Thanks!

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Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Tux Paint 0.9.16 build for Mac OS X?

[Mark K. K. <mkk...@gm...>]

On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 09:41:55PM -0600, Martin Fuhrer wrote:

>    Hmm... including SDL_ttf 2.0.6 doesn't help.* I also ran Tux Paint 0.9.14
>    and 0.9.15 and I also get the squares with the Korean language selected,
>    so the problem may have been around for quite a while on the Mac side of
>    things.**

Oh no...  Thank you for looking into this, as I have no Mac to test it
out on myself!

-Mark

[Tuxpaint-devel] Stamp text Bug.

[TOYAMA Shin-i. <sh...@wm...>]

Hi!

There still remains stamp text bug.

1) Select Stamp Tool
2) Select some stamp.
3) Put stamp on canvas
4) Wait a little
5) Boxes again!!

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Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Tux Paint 0.9.16 build for Mac OS X?

[Martin F. <mf...@gm...>]

> Testing now.  First off, the splash screen within Tux Paint still
> says 0.9.15 from 2005.11.25.  I see your About screen has the right
> version (although the build seems to be from a few days in the  
> future ;^) )

Splash screen fixed.  (I like to stay ahead of things on the build  
date :-) )


> Secondly, Chinese (both), Japanese and Korean are ALL showing up as  
> squares.
> Can you perhaps try using an older SDL_ttf, like John is on Win32, and
> see if these locales render properly for you?

Hmm... including SDL_ttf 2.0.6 doesn't help.  I also ran Tux Paint  
0.9.14 and 0.9.15 and I also get the squares with the Korean language  
selected, so the problem may have been around for quite a while on  
the Mac side of things.

> I tried playing with locale settings in the Mac's System Preferences
> dialog, and some worked, some didn't seem to do anything, except  
> pick the
> next option down the list (e.g., if I moved Portuguese to the top of
> the list in the Mac's settings, Tux Paint would end up using the next
> language down... other languages worked properly, e.g., Hebrew)

Do you know how Tux Paint reads the language settings from the Mac  
System preferences.  Via an environment variable? settings file?  I  
perused through the code but can't seem to find the spot where  the  
Mac language settings are read...

> One more issue.  It seems the locale is not being kept track of inside
> Tux Paint.  If I change the locale to Catalan in Tux Paint Config,
> the UI text is all Catalan, which is correct.
>
> However, none of the stamps play their descriptive (spoken) sounds,
> when I click them.
>
> e.g., when I click the Rooster stamp, I do not hear  
> "rooster_desc_ca.ogg"
> play after "rooster.ogg" plays.
>
> Additionally, when I click the number stamps (i.e., "0.png" thru  
> "9.png"),
> I get the english sounds (e.g., "0_en.png"), rather than the Catalan
> ones (e.g., "0_ca.png").

It works fine for me, after using Tux Paint Stamps installer to  
install stamps for the "Current User". This evening I updated the Tux  
Paint Stamps XCode project, as it was placing both the stamps gzip  
file and the unzipped stamps directory into the installer bundle,  
making the installer twice as large as it should be.  I doubt this  
would have affected proper installation of the stamps, however.   
Maybe try compiling this latest installer and running it, just in  
case it solves the problem for you...

> Ok, one more, then I'm done.  ANy reason you include only the english
> plain-text (TXT) version of the documentation, and not the HTML docs
> (either instead of, or as well as the plain-text)?

I'll throw in the HTML docs as well!  Alternatively, I could include  
the HTML and/or text documents inside the Tux Paint application  
bundle and make them accessible via the Help menu (from the Mac  
menubar).

Martin

Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Tux Paint 0.9.16 build for Mac OS X?

[Martin F. <mf...@gm...>]

>> www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~fuhrer/temp/tuxpaintstamps-2006.10.12- 
>> macosx.dmg
>
> Oh yeah, do you think you'd be able to provide a checkbox interface
> in the installer, like we have for Windows?

I can look into it.  Could you or John provide me with a screenshot  
of the Windows installer for reference?
Thanks!

Martin

Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Status of Sazanami Gothic / TTF

[Ben A. <sy...@sa...>]

TOYAMA Shin-ichi wrote:
> See bugzilla for SDL_ttf
>
> http://bugzilla.libsdl.org/show_bug.cgi?id=190
>   

Thanks!  I'll file a bug against the Debian tuxpaint-data package to
track this issue and resolve it by the eventual replacement of ja.ttf in
tuxpaint-data with a symlink and dependency on ttf-sazanami-gothic once
this SDL_ttf bug is resolved.


Ben

Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Status of Sazanami Gothic / TTF

[TOYAMA Shin-i. <sh...@wm...>]

Hi!

Ben Armstrong wrote in <453...@sa...>
>What is the status of the TTF bug (URLs please?) that our customized
>version works around?  Could it be fixed in the latest versions of TTF
>packages in Debian/sid?

See bugzilla for SDL_ttf

http://bugzilla.libsdl.org/show_bug.cgi?id=190


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Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Chinese fonts

[Ben A. <sy...@sa...>]

I *remember* the discussion I had with the Wesnoth developers about this
now!  It is a problem that was discovered at least a couple of years
ago.  I had a nagging suspicion I already knew what was wrong, but
couldn't put my finger on why or where I knew of this.

Ben

John Popplewell wrote:
> Just for the record, I got round to looking at the code for SDL_ttf and
> this:
> http://www.libsdl.org/cgi/viewvc.cgi?view=rev&revision=2304
>
> causes the change in behavior we are seeing between 2.0.7 and 2.0.8
>
> cheers,
> John.
>
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Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Chinese fonts

[John P. <jo...@jo...>]

On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 10:46:43PM -0700, Bill Kendrick wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 02:13:21AM +0100, John Popplewell wrote:
> > 
> > got a chance to try these out - all broken. I dropped in an old SDL_ttf
> > from 0.9.15 (which I think was freetype-2.1.9 and SDL_ttf-2.0.7) and
> > chinese worked fine so it looks like it's an SDL_ttf/Freetype problem.
> 
> YAY!
> 
Just for the record, I got round to looking at the code for SDL_ttf and
this:
http://www.libsdl.org/cgi/viewvc.cgi?view=rev&revision=2304

causes the change in behavior we are seeing between 2.0.7 and 2.0.8

cheers,
John.

Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Tux Paint 0.9.16 build for Mac OS X?

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 07:20:15PM -0600, Martin Fuhrer wrote:
> I've posted the Mac OS X Tux Paint 0.9.16rc5 builds here:
> 
> www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~fuhrer/temp/tuxpaint-0.9.16rc5-macosx.dmg
> www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~fuhrer/temp/tuxpaintstamps-2006.10.12-macosx.dmg

Oh yeah, do you think you'd be able to provide a checkbox interface
in the installer, like we have for Windows?

Or, alternatively, could you provide separate stamps DMGs, one for each
category?  (Like we have for RPM packages.)

Thx!

-bill!

[Tuxpaint-devel] Status of Sazanami Gothic / TTF

[Ben A. <sy...@sa...>]

As indicated in the Chinese fonts discussion, I really have no need for
these subset fonts in my Debian package, where a good full font
alternative exists.

What is the status of the TTF bug (URLs please?) that our customized
version works around?  Could it be fixed in the latest versions of TTF
packages in Debian/sid?

I could test this if I know what problems to look for.  I'd really
rather not include *any* fonts in the tuxpaint-data package in Debian,
so if I could go back to using the full ttf-sazanami-gothic package,
that would be great.  And if we're not ready to do that today, I'd at
least like to track the bug so I can eventually switch to using a
non-customized font when it is fixed.

Ben

TOYAMA Shin-ichi wrote:
> Thank you bill,
>
> Ben,
>
> ja.ttf in tuxpaint-0.9.16 is a simple and very small subset of 
> sazanami-gothic.ttf. 
>
> -----  From "fonts/locale/ja_docs/COPYING.txt -----------------
>
> Sazanami-Gothic-noBitmap-noKanji.ttf (Custumized for TuxPaint)
>  
> This is a custumized subset of Sazanami-Gothic.ttf for TuxPaint.
> Difference between original are, 
>
>   a) Bitmap data which prevent correct rendering (due to SDL_ttf
>      bug) are removed.
>   b) All Kanji data not used in TuxPaint are removed.
>   

Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Chinese fonts

[Ben A. <sy...@sa...>]

Bill Kendrick wrote:
> however!  Ben, would you mind experimenting to see if Song's changes
> to the TTF actually helps? :)  Just so we have a datapoint. ;)
>   

Sure.  I'll try to fit it in.  Actually preparing the release (or at
least the next release candidate) will take precedence.

Ben

Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Chinese fonts

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 11:37:04AM -0300, Ben Armstrong wrote:
> Thanks, Song.  This is good to have in Tuxpaint upstream.  But for the
> Debian package, I think it is best to keep on using ttf-arphic-uming as
> I do now.  I am sure Traditional Chinese Debian users will already have
> this package installed, so there is no need for me to use the subset of
> the wangfonts font.

Agreed!

however!  Ben, would you mind experimenting to see if Song's changes
to the TTF actually helps? :)  Just so we have a datapoint. ;)

Thx

-bill!

Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Tux Paint 0.9.16 build for Mac OS X?

[John P. <jo...@jo...>]

On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 07:01:54PM -0700, Bill Kendrick wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 06:55:04PM -0700, Bill Kendrick wrote:
> > On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 06:24:50PM -0700, Bill Kendrick wrote:
> > > 
> > > Awesome, thanks! I've put them on my FTP site here:
> > > 
> > >   ftp://ftp.tuxpaint.org/unix/x/tuxpaint/testbuilds/macosx/
> > > 
> > > And will test it on my PPC Mac Mini momentarily! ;)
> > 
> 
> One more issue.  It seems the locale is not being kept track of inside
> Tux Paint.  If I change the locale to Catalan in Tux Paint Config,
> the UI text is all Catalan, which is correct.
> 
> However, none of the stamps play their descriptive (spoken) sounds,
> when I click them.
> 
> e.g., when I click the Rooster stamp, I do not hear "rooster_desc_ca.ogg"
> play after "rooster.ogg" plays.
> 
> Additionally, when I click the number stamps (i.e., "0.png" thru "9.png"),
> I get the english sounds (e.g., "0_en.png"), rather than the Catalan
> ones (e.g., "0_ca.png").
> 
> Any ideas?  (I'll need to double-check this works right in Win32.
> It works fine in Linux.)
Seems to work fine here,

cheers,
John.

> 
> Thx,
> 
> -bill!
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Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Chinese fonts

[John P. <jo...@jo...>]

On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 10:26:23PM +0800, Song Huang wrote:
> Dears,
> 
> I fixed this problum of zh_tw.ttf, I don't known what differ from SDL,
> but I change the fontforge script to keep all orig font's properties.
> 
> pls kindly to confirm the fixed, and put the zh_tw.ttf into tuxpaint 0.9.16
> release,
> thanks~!!
Hi song,

I can confirm that the problem is fixed on Windows using SDL_ttf-2.0.8
and freetype-2.2.1,

regards,
John.

> 
> Best regards,
> song.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Popplewell" <jo...@jo...>
> To: "Discussion list for Tux Paint developers"
> <tux...@li...>
> Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 11:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Chinese fonts
> 
> 
> > On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 04:12:19PM +0100, John Popplewell wrote:
> > > > <snip!>
> > > > I appreciate this.  I cannot, of course, make the SDL packages revert
> to
> > > > an earlier version in Debian.  So for Chinese to work in Debian, we
> have
> > > > to move forward starting with what's there now.
> > > Sure, I understand.
> > >
> > > For what it's worth, I've built similar versions to the ones in Debian:
> > >
> > > freetype-2.2.1
> > > SDL_ttf-2.0.7
> > > SDL_ttf-2.0.8
> > > with this patch (so that SDL_ttf builds):
> > >
> http://www.freetype.org/freetype2/patches/SDL_ttf-2.0.7-noftinternals.patch
> > >
> > > and the problem with SDL_ttf-2.0.8 and the small zh_tw.ttf font remains.
> > > If I use the original zh_tw.ttf (13MB) it works fine.
> > >
> > > At least it's probably not a freetype problem :-)
> > >
> > An additional data-point. If I use the 'showfont' test program that
> > comes with SDL_ttf-2.0.8:
> >
> > $ showfont c:/windows/fonts/arial.ttf 32 "Hello world."
> > Font is generally 36 big, and string is 36 big
> > [displays correctly]
> >
> > $ showfont ../tuxpaint/fonts/locale/zh_tw.ttf 32 "Hello world."
> > Font is generally 1 big, and string is 1 big
> > [displays the top row of pixels only]
> >
> > regards,
> > John.
> >
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Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] Tux Paint 0.9.16 build for Mac OS X?

[John P. <jo...@jo...>]

On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 06:55:04PM -0700, Bill Kendrick wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 06:24:50PM -0700, Bill Kendrick wrote:
> > 
> > Awesome, thanks! I've put them on my FTP site here:
> > 
> >   ftp://ftp.tuxpaint.org/unix/x/tuxpaint/testbuilds/macosx/
> > 
> > And will test it on my PPC Mac Mini momentarily! ;)
> 
> Testing now.  First off, the splash screen within Tux Paint still
> says 0.9.15 from 2005.11.25.  I see your About screen has the right
> version (although the build seems to be from a few days in the future ;^) )
> 
> Secondly, Chinese (both), Japanese and Korean are ALL showing up as squares.
> Can you perhaps try using an older SDL_ttf, like John is on Win32, and
> see if these locales render properly for you?
Whoa! I have tried this as an experiment, but all the release candidates
used SDL_ttf-2.0.8.  I've changed the version of freetype a few times
(to no effect) and rc6 has a slightly patched SDL_ttf-2.0.8 to work with
freetype-2.2.1.

> I tried playing with locale settings in the Mac's System Preferences
> dialog, and some worked, some didn't seem to do anything, except pick the
> next option down the list (e.g., if I moved Portuguese to the top of
> the list in the Mac's settings, Tux Paint would end up using the next
> language down... other languages worked properly, e.g., Hebrew)
> 
> Thanks!
> 
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