Re: [Tuxpaint-devel] [Tuxmath-devel] Further clarifications about maintainance

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

Adding tuxpaint-devel list to the Cc's.


On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 09:37:14AM +0200, Bastien Guerry wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Holger Levsen <ho...@la...> writes:
> 
> > why: because it focusses on tuxmath only, but we should solve this for
> > the bigger tux4kids project.
> 
> Indeed, this was implicit in my previous email but I wasn't clear
> enough and I was not aware of other issues I just discovered.
> 
> > I very very much applaud and thank Bastien for this initiative but I
> > *cannot* agree on it. Please include tuxtype and tuxpaint in it, and
> > quite very probably *more* tux4kids projects.
> 
> My understanding was that Deepak maintains all tux4kids projects but I
> see now this is wrong.
> 
> Deepak maintains Tuxmath only.
> 
> @Deepak, is it so?
> 
> > And, (long term) we need to come up with some rules / practices to
> > define what tux4kids is.
> 
> After exploring a bit more, here is how I see it:
> 
> - "Tux4kids" is just an ombrella for educational free softwares that
>   use the tux- prefix.
> 
> - Among those softwares, there are two categories: those who are well
>   established and usable: Tuxmath, Tuxpaint, Tuxtype; others are more
>   or less stable, maintained, etc.: tuxhistory (?), Tux4ME, Tuxblocks.
> 
> I suggest http://tux4kids.alioth.debian.org should simply have four
> "buttons" (or beautiful pictures of games):
> 
> 1. one to redirect to tuxpaint.org;
> 2. one to redirect to the tuxmath project webpage;
> 3. one to redirect to the tuxtype project webpage;
> 4. one to list other games (the Tux4Kids "lab"?).
> 
> At the bottom, a link to the tux4kids-discuss mailing list.
> 
> From here:
> 
> - Tuxpaint seems to be developed rather autonomously, so I won't
>   suggest anything, the button would just lead to tuxpaint.org

Correct, Tux Paint is currently maintained:

  Website: http://tuxpaint.org/

  Lists:
   * Dev discussions:
     * Code: http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxpaint-devel
     * i18n: http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxpaint-i18n
     * Art:  http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxpaint-stamps
     * Docs: http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxpaint-docs
   * User discussion:
     * http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tuxpaint-users
   * Announcements (non-discussion):
     * http://tuxpaint.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tuxpaint-news

  Files & code repo:
   * SF project: https://sourceforge.net/projects/tuxpaint/
   * Builds/etc: https://sourceforge.net/projects/tuxpaint/files/
   * CVS repo:   http://tuxpaint.cvs.sourceforge.net/tuxpaint/

  Maintainers:
   * Me (Bill Kendrick, bi...@ne... / nb...@so...)
   * Others (Pere Pujal & others have been helping a lot)

I've been a little out-of-the-loop lately, but discussions have
been going on aboiut switching from CVS to Git, and possibly
moving away from SF.net.  I should probably catch up and
participate in those :)


-bill!


> 
> - http://tux4kids.alioth.debian.org/tuxmath/index.php can be updated,
>   adding Deepak as the maintainer, listing tuxmath-devel@ as the main
>   communication point and the github tuxmath repository as the central
>   place for contributing with code and bug reports.
> 
> - http://tux4kids.alioth.debian.org/tuxtype/index.php can be cleaned
>   up a bit, advertizing the fact that the project is looking for a
>   maintainer--I assume it is.
> 
> - A new page for other tux- softwares would just list them, maybe with
>   the name of a maintainer if there is one, deferring communication to
>   the github repositories.
> 
> > And yes, probably we should have one mailing list (only). But this list
> > then *must not* have "tuxmath" in it's name???!
> 
> Would tux4kids-discuss@ be okay?
> 
> > Again: Bastien, thanks a lot for driving this! Much appreciated. I'm
> > looking forward for a modified plan! ;-)
> 
> Here is one:
> 
> 1. Deepak agrees to be maintainer for Tuxmath *only*.
> 
> 2. We all agree that there is no need for a Tux4Kids maintainer.
> 
> 3. We all agree on using the tux4kids-discuss@ mailing list as the
>    central place for discussing among developers, contributors and
>    users from all Tuxy- projects.
> 
> 4. Holger keeps the Tuxmath alioth repository in sync with the Tuxmath
>    Github's repository, and we all agree this Github repository is the
>    central place for Tuxmath development.
> 
> 4. If Deepak maintains other repositories on Github that are also on
>    alioth (like tuxtype?), and if those repositories needs a sync on
>    alioth, Holger sets up a sync--otherwise those repositories lives
>    on Github and are advertized as such on the tux4kids website.
> 
> 5. I update the various webpage to reflect this structure.
>    
> If that's OK, from there we can move forward:
> 
> - Laura sends her tuxmath patches as PR on Github.
> - We clean-up "abandonware" on the Github repositories.
> - ...
> 
> Sorry for being so bulleted-list oriented, it helps me think!
> 
> Thanks again for your feedback,
> 
> -- 
>  Bastien
> 
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