trinux-talk — General discussion including questions and problem resolution

RE: [Trinux-talk] Realtek, insmod, and ISO image

[Garrett, S. (SGARRETT) <SGA...@ar...>]

Thank you for the prompt response.

The 8390 module was not loaded.  Loading it first then allowed me to
successfully load the ne2k-pci module.  Now ETH0 is available and can be
configured.

Thank you very much for the assistance.

Best regards,
Stu

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From: Matthew Franz
To: Garrett, Stuart (SGARRETT)
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Sent: 8/2/03 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Trinux-talk] Realtek, insmod, and ISO image

Is the 8390 module loaded? If not, try insmoding that first.

lsmod (or cat /proc/modules) should tell you what is loaded.

- mdf

> I am unable to get a module loaded for my network card.
> 
> The card is a Realtek RTL8029(AS) PCI.  I am using the ISO image named
> trinux.iso, dated 28-Jul-2003. 
> 
> The /trinux/tux/config/modules/ file contains ne2k-pci.o, which (I
believe)
> is the correct module.  However, when I run "insmod ne2k-pci.o", I
receive
> the following errors:
> 
> unresolved symbol ei_open
> unresolved ethdev_init
> unresolved ei_interrupt
> unresolved NS8390_init
> unresolved ei_close
> 
> Dmesg doesn't give me any clues, either.  There are no references to
ETH0.
> 
> Any ideas ?  
> Best regards,
> Stu
> 
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Re: [Trinux-talk] Realtek, insmod, and ISO image

[Matthew F. <mf...@ci...>]

Is the 8390 module loaded? If not, try insmoding that first.

lsmod (or cat /proc/modules) should tell you what is loaded.

- mdf

> I am unable to get a module loaded for my network card.
> 
> The card is a Realtek RTL8029(AS) PCI.  I am using the ISO image named
> trinux.iso, dated 28-Jul-2003. 
> 
> The /trinux/tux/config/modules/ file contains ne2k-pci.o, which (I believe)
> is the correct module.  However, when I run "insmod ne2k-pci.o", I receive
> the following errors:
> 
> unresolved symbol ei_open
> unresolved ethdev_init
> unresolved ei_interrupt
> unresolved NS8390_init
> unresolved ei_close
> 
> Dmesg doesn't give me any clues, either.  There are no references to ETH0.
> 
> Any ideas ?  
> Best regards,
> Stu
> 
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[Trinux-talk] Has openssh/opensshd package changed?

[grazzt <gr...@tu...>]

Hi,

Running a monitor-less masq box that runs trinux (cant remember what 
version), and have set it up to run the the following commands at bootup:

getpkg system
getpkg baselib
getpkg dnslibs
getpkg bash
getpkg term
getpkg pthread
getpkg openssh
ssh-keygen -f //.ssh/identity -N ""
getpkg opensshd

Worked 2 weeks ago, but the power just went off, and now sshd aint 
responding on it. :/ (ipmasq and everything else on it is working though).

Has anything changed in the ssh packages?

Too lazy right now to hook a monitor up to it. heh

Any ideas?

Thanks.

[Trinux-talk] Realtek, insmod, and ISO image

[Garrett, S. (SGARRETT) <SGA...@ar...>]

I am unable to get a module loaded for my network card.

The card is a Realtek RTL8029(AS) PCI.  I am using the ISO image named
trinux.iso, dated 28-Jul-2003. 

The /trinux/tux/config/modules/ file contains ne2k-pci.o, which (I believe)
is the correct module.  However, when I run "insmod ne2k-pci.o", I receive
the following errors:

unresolved symbol ei_open
unresolved ethdev_init
unresolved ei_interrupt
unresolved NS8390_init
unresolved ei_close

Dmesg doesn't give me any clues, either.  There are no references to ETH0.

Any ideas ?  
Best regards,
Stu

[Trinux-talk] RE: hangs

[Mike P. <MPi...@lg...>]

Zim,

I found the following post from you in the archives.  I was searching 
for "hangs" because I ran into the same problem you saw.  It was strange 
because the same disk worked on both an older laptop and a newer laptop, 
but it hung while booting on the laptops I really want to use it on
(Compaq LTE 5300s).

Anyway, I can't say why that happened but I thought I'd let you know  
that the latest PCMCIA image, "pcmcia-090602.img", works great on that 
same laptop that hung before on "trinux-0.80rc2-pcmcia.img".  Give the
new one a try if you haven't yet.

-Mike Pilkington

From: zim zim <tehzemo@ms...> 
 hangs 
2003-05-05 15:19 
 im trying to use trinux-pcmcia, i tried 3 diffrent floppies and it just
does
 
 Loading initrd.gz....
 Loading bzimage....
 Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel.
 
 ..then it just hangs, i don't know why, i tried re-downloading the .img and

 re-making (even on diffrent disks) the disk several times.
 
 the PC in question meets the reqirements also, so i don't know why im
having 
 these problems.
 
 I also tried trinux-IDE to make sure maybe the pcmcia version on the server

 was currupt but i experience hte same problems.
 
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Re: [Trinux-talk] Placement of raw modules?

[Matthew F. <mf...@ci...>]

> I am building my own iso trinux version. Where (in which folder) do i place 
> the
> raw .o modules to get them loadad automatically at boot time?
> 
> I dont want to use insmod to use the each time..
> 
> I tried putting them directly in the root folder but that didny help. And 
> yes
> i have added them to my modules list in /config

You put the raw modules in the /trinux/modules directory on the CD and
edit /trinux/tux/config/modules to include the one's you get loaded.

I can add an option if /trinux/tux/config/modules = "all" to load them
all but that might not work all the

I uploaded a new ISO src tarball (and an .iso) to
http://trinux.sf.net/snaps/

I just changed the behavior for package loading. Everyting in bootpkg
get's loaded but what is in pkg only gets loaded if it is in the
config/pkglist file.

- mdf

[Trinux-talk] Placement of raw modules?

[Johan H. <hag...@ho...>]

I am building my own iso trinux version. Where (in which folder) do i place 
the
raw .o modules to get them loadad automatically at boot time?

I dont want to use insmod to use the each time..

I tried putting them directly in the root folder but that didny help. And 
yes
i have added them to my modules list in /config

Regards
Johan

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Re: [Trinux-talk] keyboard

[Projet G. <pro...@sm...>]

> I added the busybox keyboard utilities to the latest initrd.gz
> http://trinux.sf.net/snaps/

Unfortunately I cannot boot with this new initrd. I don't think I could solve 
may problem with setkeycodes anyway.

> I also added dumpkeys the to the kmap.tgz package.

The dumpkeys command works great. I've seen that the keymap used in Trinux is 
not exactly the same as the one loaded with loadkmap. For example, the loaded 
map contains:

#string Macro = "\033[M"
string Macro = "\033+"
#string Pause = "\033[P"
string Pause = "\033+"

but dumpkeys shows:

string Macro = "\033[M"
string Pause = "\033[P"

Any idea?

Cheers,

Mathieu

Re: [Trinux-talk] keyboard

[Projet G. <pro...@sm...>]

> Not sure if this helps:
>
> I added the busybox keyboard utilities to the latest initrd.gz
> http://trinux.sf.net/snaps/
>
> dumpkmap
> setkeycodes
> loadkmap

That's great, thank you. I think I'll try the setkeycodes command. The man 
page on busybox web site about this command is not really explicit but maybe 
I can solve my function keys problem with this command.

> I also added dumpkeys the to the kmap.tgz package.

Great too, so we don't need to install busybox anywhere else.

> Let me know if there is anything else that needs to be done to support
> non-US/non-QWERTY keyboards such as modifying the linuxrc or to allow
> user to specify keymap/country on the bootdevice so everything occurs
> automatically.

Well, there is something I need. As I told you in a previous mail, I would 
like to use Trinux to turn old PC into AS/400 diskless workstations.
Trinux is loaded and a tn5250 session is launched on a Mandrake box thanks too 
ssh to get an acces to the IBM's AS/400 server.
The thing is that regular dump stations use 24 fonction keys. I can use F1 up 
to F12 and then F13 up to F20 with shift F1-F8. My problem is that I cannot 
use the F21-F24 function keys.
I modified my keymap file but nothing happend. According to the guys at tn5250 
(http://tn5250.sourceforge.net), it's a termcap or terminfo problem. I have 
got a special termcap file and special terminfo directories supplied with 
tn5250. I suppose that I have to compile or install that files into Trinux to 
be able to use it because a simple copy/paste is useless.
Could you please let me know how I can modify Trinux to enable those 4 
function keys?
I know that other people could be interested in using my proposal based on 
Trinux for professional use. But it will certainly not be accepted if I 
cannot have F21 up to F24 with shift F9-F12. So, your help is really 
appreciated.

> - mdf

Cheers,

Mathieu

Re: [Trinux-talk] keyboard

[Matthew F. <mf...@ci...>]

Not sure if this helps:

I added the busybox keyboard utilities to the latest initrd.gz
http://trinux.sf.net/snaps/

dumpkmap
setkeycodes
loadkmap

I also added dumpkeys the to the kmap.tgz package.

Let me know if there is anything else that needs to be done to support
non-US/non-QWERTY keyboards such as modifying the linuxrc or to allow
user to specify keymap/country on the bootdevice so everything occurs
automatically.

- mdf


> > my keyboard is AZERTY.
> > Trinux boots on QWERTY, how to change the keyboard definition in AZERTY (
> > europe keyboard )
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Load kmap.tgz:
> # getpkg kmap
> Launch kmap:
> # kmap
> Answer the question with 4 for french.
> 
> The kmap package can be found on the trinux site: 
> http://trinux.sourceforge.net/pkg/
> You can put it straight on the floppy so that it's uncompressed in the system 
> as /kmap. You can also put that somewhere on a ftp server.
> 
> Answering a question is a bit boring. So, to boot straight with an azerty 
> keyboard, uncompress kmap.tgz somewhere. Look for the fr.bmap keymap file. Add 
> this to your floppy. Then you can add in the tux/init/last file something 
> like:
> # fmount
> # loadkmap < floppy/fr.bmap
> # fumont
> 
> You can also tgz the kmap.bmap file and put it on your floppy. The file will 
> be uncompressed and available in the system. So you don't need to mount the 
> floppy and you just have to add:
> # loakmap < fr.bmap
> 
> That's the way I boot with azerty. There may be other solutions.
> 
> Mathieu
> 
> PS: Why the hell are we supposed to speak english between french?
> 
> 

Re: [Trinux-talk] keyboard

[Projet G. <pro...@sm...>]

> > PS: Why the hell are we supposed to speak english between french?
>
> Parce que moi aussi veux comprendre, et je ne suis pas tres bien en
> language francais!
> Au revoir :-)
> Arne,
> Payies-Basse
>

Your french is not bad but that's a good reason anyway. I'm glade if my 
explanations are useful. Please note that it works with any keybaord.

I've been looking for loading my own custumized keyboard into Trinux for some 
reasons. If someone would like to do so, download and install busybox on your 
usual Linux box, then use that command:
# dumpkmap > customized.bmap
It will create a binary key map file that you can load into Trinux with 
loadkmap < customized.bmap

Cheers,

Mathieu

Re: [Trinux-talk] keyboard

[Arne de B. <akd...@ka...>]

> PS: Why the hell are we supposed to speak english between french?
Parce que moi aussi veux comprendre, et je ne suis pas tres bien en language
francais!
Au revoir :-)
Arne,
Payies-Basse

Re: [Trinux-talk] keyboard

[Projet G. <pro...@sm...>]

> my keyboard is AZERTY.
> Trinux boots on QWERTY, how to change the keyboard definition in AZERTY (
> europe keyboard )

Hi,

Load kmap.tgz:
# getpkg kmap
Launch kmap:
# kmap
Answer the question with 4 for french.

The kmap package can be found on the trinux site: 
http://trinux.sourceforge.net/pkg/
You can put it straight on the floppy so that it's uncompressed in the system 
as /kmap. You can also put that somewhere on a ftp server.

Answering a question is a bit boring. So, to boot straight with an azerty 
keyboard, uncompress kmap.tgz somewhere. Look for the fr.bmap keymap file. Add 
this to your floppy. Then you can add in the tux/init/last file something 
like:
# fmount
# loadkmap < floppy/fr.bmap
# fumont

You can also tgz the kmap.bmap file and put it on your floppy. The file will 
be uncompressed and available in the system. So you don't need to mount the 
floppy and you just have to add:
# loakmap < fr.bmap

That's the way I boot with azerty. There may be other solutions.

Mathieu

PS: Why the hell are we supposed to speak english between french?

[Trinux-talk] keyboard

[<har...@ya...>]

my keyboard is AZERTY.
Trinux boots on QWERTY, how to change the keyboard definition in AZERTY ( europe keyboard )



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Re: [Trinux-talk] help me

[Matthew F. <mf...@ci...>]

On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 11:40:18AM +0200, Pascal Hard? wrote:
> I install trinux with floppy boot.
> my kernel is old ( 2.2.16) and my net card is not detected.
> I had tried to change kernel directely on the floppy boot with earlier kernel, but nothing.
> 
> I want to know how update kernel on my floppy boot to the detection on may net card. ( Intel pro 100 / VE )
> Thanks
> 

The latest floppy boot image using kernel 2.4.21 and the Busybox 1.0 is
available at http://trinux.sourceforge.net/snaps/

Information on this kernel is available in:
http://trinux.sourceforge.net/kernel/2.4.21/


You have two options, regarding the kernel:

1) Use one of the kernel module packages available in
http://trinux.sf.net/pkg/2.4.21/  - You should use nicmode-l.tgz (kernel
modules that start with "e" to "l") and put it in the kpkg directory on
the boot floppy

2) Download the raw kernel module and put it in the modules directory on
the boot floppy

Modules for this kernel are avaliable in
http://trinux.sf.net/modules/2.4.21/ 

And you probably need
http://trinux.sourceforge.net/modules/2.4.21/kernel/drivers/net/eepro100.o

Either way, you'll need to edit \tux\config\modules on the boot floopy
(or edit /etc/tux/config/modules within trinux and the type save-config)
to add eepro100.o to the list of modules.

- mdf

[Trinux-talk] help me

[<har...@ya...>]

I install trinux with floppy boot.
my kernel is old ( 2.2.16) and my net card is not detected.
I had tried to change kernel directely on the floppy boot with earlier kernel, but nothing.

I want to know how update kernel on my floppy boot to the detection on may net card. ( Intel pro 100 / VE )
Thanks




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[Trinux-talk] AS/400 function keys problem

[Projet G. <pro...@sm...>]

Hi,

First of all, I'd like to thank the people involved in the Trinux project, 
especially Matthew Franz.

I've got a project using Trinux to turn old P75 without CDRom players into 
diskless workstations. Trinux uses DHCP to get a network configuration, then 
loads ssh from web through ftp. A script starts a ssh session on a Mandrake 
9.1 box and a tn5250 (http://tn5250.sourceforge.net) session is automatically 
started. So I get an access to the AS/400 from anywhere in the company thanks 
to a single floppy.

The problem is that AS/400 dump stations are using function keys from F1 to 
F24. I use F1 up to F12 straight from the keyboard, and shift F1 to shift F8 
to get access to F13-F20 but it's like F21-F24 are disabled.

My key map works great on Mandrake but doesn't on Trinux. I've been told that 
it could come from the termcap/terminfo configuration. I have added a termcap 
definition dedicated to tn5250 on the etc/termcap file and made a copy of 
/usr/share/terminfo/5/5250 from Mandrake to Trinux. I finally set the 
terminal configuration with $ export TERM=5250 but nothing happend. I think I 
should compile this but there's no tic command on Trinux.

So, how am I supposed to enable those function keys?

Cheers,

Mathieu

Re: [Trinux-talk] Status of Trinux and Ending the S P A M :)

[<jc...@co...>]

Hi Matthew,

I'm happy that you've chosen to continue Trinux afterall - in whatever
form. You have previously stated on the homepage that you'd discontinue=
 it
since there are other distributions with GUI that could be run from a C=
D. I
believe that I may speak for others too when I say that there are many
cases where a text-only, floppy-sized distribution is preferable.
Particular the ease of setting up the disk (installation), I find very
appealing.

Good work on the spam-issue.

Finally a question: Is it just me who cannot find it, or are there no
information on building new packages for Trinux on the homepage?

Regards
/J=F8rn Cornelius Olsen



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Thanks to those folks who finally complained about the spam. I deleted
some lists that were inactive and made the lists closed (you have to be=
 a
subscriber to post now) so hopefully you'll just be getting your normal=

share of non-Trinux spam.

I'm actually thinking about starting doing some Trinux development agai=
n
-- in the form of a new project called uTrinux. See
http://trinux.sf.net/uTrinux/ for details. I haven't released anything
yet and this is more of a development toolkit than a distribution, but
some folks might find it interesting.

Basically, the goal is to bring together some of the functionality from=

uClinux and from the development workgoing on for Linux handhelds
(familiar, intimate, iPKG) into a flexible means of creating custom Lin=
ux
(x86) distributions that can be used for a variety of uses: security
being one of them.

- mdf




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[Trinux-talk] Status of Trinux and Ending the S P A M :)

[Matthew F. <mf...@ci...>]

Thanks to those folks who finally complained about the spam. I deleted
some lists that were inactive and made the lists closed (you have to be a
subscriber to post now) so hopefully you'll just be getting your normal
share of non-Trinux spam.

I'm actually thinking about starting doing some Trinux development again
-- in the form of a new project called uTrinux. See
http://trinux.sf.net/uTrinux/ for details. I haven't released anything
yet and this is more of a development toolkit than a distribution, but
some folks might find it interesting. 

Basically, the goal is to bring together some of the functionality from
uClinux and from the development workgoing on for Linux handhelds
(familiar, intimate, iPKG) into a flexible means of creating custom Linux
(x86) distributions that can be used for a variety of uses: security
being one of them.

- mdf 

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Re: [Trinux-talk] Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam...

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Hallo, Cox,,

Du meintest am 11.07.03 zum Thema RE: [Trinux-talk] Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam...:

> Apparently, a lot of the traffic on this list is spam. Can we
> restrict posting to members only and maybe disable HTML too? You
> can do that in the Mailman interface iirc...

Restricting to "no html" should do a lot of the job ...

Viele Gruesse!
Helmut

RE: [Trinux-talk] Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam...

[Cox, M. <ms...@ti...>]

Apparently, a lot of the traffic on this list is spam. Can we restrict
posting to members only and maybe disable HTML too? You can do that in the
Mailman interface iirc...

Regards,
Michael

[Trinux-talk] Re: I apologize....I could not know that kkz yga

[Deandre M. <yr4...@ae...>]

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