trinux-talk — General discussion including questions and problem resolution

RE: RE: [Trinux-talk] new ISO image

[Matthew F. <mf...@ci...>]

I'm guessing it is the attempts to mount /dev/fd0 (checking for the
presence of a boot or config floppy) which works fine if a drive exists
but there is no floppy disk present. If there is no drive then it takes a
long time to time out. 

I should be able to modify the the /linuxrc to check for a floppy drive in
/proc/devices and ignore the checks if one isn't there.

I should be able to duplicate the problem on my laptop.

-mdf

> sorry, it doesn't hang forever, it just hang for 3 minutes (i looked at my 
> watch).
> after this time trinux booted but without pcmcia.
> I used the ISO from http://www.trinux.org/boot/trinux-80rc2-2.4.5.iso
> is there a pcmcia ISO?
> 
> The trinux-ide floppy works without that 3 minutes delay.
> 
> 
>  > It is a PCMCIA CD-ROM or an IDE? Does the trinux-ide floppy work, because
>   >  that is the same kernel as on the CD-ROM?
> 
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Re: RE: [Trinux-talk] new ISO image

[ray o'g. <ray...@ya...>]

my experience matches
patience is not on of my virtues
however it does not hang for the 3 minutes if the external floppy is
attached
> sorry, it doesn't hang forever, it just hang for 3 minutes (i looked at my
> watch).
> after this time trinux booted but without pcmcia.
> I used the ISO from http://www.trinux.org/boot/trinux-80rc2-2.4.5.iso
> is there a pcmcia ISO?
>
> The trinux-ide floppy works without that 3 minutes delay.
>
>
>  > It is a PCMCIA CD-ROM or an IDE? Does the trinux-ide floppy work,
because
>   >  that is the same kernel as on the CD-ROM?
>
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RE: RE: [Trinux-talk] new ISO image

[hans n. <ha...@no...>]

sorry, it doesn't hang forever, it just hang for 3 minutes (i looked at my 
watch).
after this time trinux booted but without pcmcia.
I used the ISO from http://www.trinux.org/boot/trinux-80rc2-2.4.5.iso
is there a pcmcia ISO?

The trinux-ide floppy works without that 3 minutes delay.


 > It is a PCMCIA CD-ROM or an IDE? Does the trinux-ide floppy work, because
  >  that is the same kernel as on the CD-ROM?

Re: [Trinux-talk] new ISO image

[Matthew F. <mf...@ci...>]

Thanks for the feedback.
I know it may be difficult but if there is anyway y'all can post the
output of dmesg to see what the kernel is seeing.

If you can access a floppy

mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /floppy   (stick in a DOS floppy)

cd /floppy

dmesg > dmesg

cat /proc/devices > devices
cat /proc/pci > pci
cat /proc/ioports > ioports

cd /
sync
umount /dev/fd0

In the future I'll add a debug script to do all this automatically.


It looks like I need to add more smarts to the linuxrc to look for laptop
specific stuff.



> I had the same experience , once, but not repeatable 
> 
> (dell c600 w/ Intel NIC)
> now it just doesn't find the NIC
> started into the 'mount cdrom' but got dstracted by another fire
> 
> > yes, i had problems with the new ISO, too but not with the dhcpd.
> > with my laptop (HP Omnibook 4150 and a 3Com NIC) the ISO-trinux hangs on 
> > early start (after decompressing the kernel - i think during hardware 
> > detect). the pcmcia floppy works fine.
> > 
> >  >Has anyone had problems w/ dhcp on the new ISO? 
> > 
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RE: [Trinux-talk] new ISO image

[Matthew F. <mf...@ci...>]

> yes, i had problems with the new ISO, too but not with the dhcpd.
> with my laptop (HP Omnibook 4150 and a 3Com NIC) the ISO-trinux hangs on 
> early start (after decompressing the kernel - i think during hardware 
> detect). the pcmcia floppy works fine.
> 
>  >Has anyone had problems w/ dhcp on the new ISO? 
> 

It is a PCMCIA CD-ROM or an IDE? Does the trinux-ide floppy work, because
that is the same kernel as on the CD-ROM?

Thanks. I've added it to the bug list

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=3301&atid=103301

There is a links off of http://trinux.sourceforge.net for submitting bugs
and new features. Feel free to use it.

Re: [Trinux-talk] new ISO image

[Ray O'G. <ray...@ya...>]

I had the same experience , once, but not repeatable 

(dell c600 w/ Intel NIC)
now it just doesn't find the NIC
started into the 'mount cdrom' but got dstracted by another fire

> yes, i had problems with the new ISO, too but not with the dhcpd.
> with my laptop (HP Omnibook 4150 and a 3Com NIC) the ISO-trinux hangs on 
> early start (after decompressing the kernel - i think during hardware 
> detect). the pcmcia floppy works fine.
> 
>  >Has anyone had problems w/ dhcp on the new ISO? 
> 
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RE: [Trinux-talk] new ISO image

[hans n. <ha...@no...>]

yes, i had problems with the new ISO, too but not with the dhcpd.
with my laptop (HP Omnibook 4150 and a 3Com NIC) the ISO-trinux hangs on 
early start (after decompressing the kernel - i think during hardware 
detect). the pcmcia floppy works fine.

 >Has anyone had problems w/ dhcp on the new ISO? 

Re: [Trinux-talk] new ISO image

[Matthew F. <mf...@ci...>]

> 
> Has anyone had problems w/ dhcp on the new ISO?  It boots fine on both my 
> workstation and laptop, but I cannot get a network connection.  The ide-rc0 
> boot image brings up the network connection with no problem on the same 
> machines.  
> 

What NIC do you have? With the laptop you'll need to ensure that
pcmcia-bin.tgz pcmcia-coremods.tgz and then the individual (3com, xircom,
or whatever) driver have been installed.

Does the trinux-net image detect your NIC and work with DHCP on your
workstation? I attached the kernel config to see if your NIC was included
in the kernel.

These are not probed automatically but you should be able to mount to the
cdrom and pkgadd them

and then run /etc/init.d/pcmcia




-mdf

[Trinux-talk] new ISO image

[<fn...@co...>]

Has anyone had problems w/ dhcp on the new ISO?  It boots fine on both my 
workstation and laptop, but I cannot get a network connection.  The ide-rc0 
boot image brings up the network connection with no problem on the same 
machines.  

[Trinux-talk] X11 packages

[Hans S. <han...@co...>]

i can rememeber some time ago (trinux 0.6x i think) there were some X11 packages available.
what did happen to those packages? i still have some tools (i.e. nessus) that could use a X11 environment.
does anybody know if there are still X11 packages for trinux around?
the second tool i am missing is stunnel which is mentioned on the trinux tools page.
in my opinion those tools should fit at least on the ISO-image/CDROM.

[Trinux-talk] Ettercap

[<ma...@el...>]

what about upgrading ettercap pkg?

Manolo

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[Trinux-talk] Ettercap

[<ma...@el...>]

What about upgrading ettecap pkg?

Manolo

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[Trinux-talk] New ISO Available

[Matthew F. <mf...@ci...>]

see http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/trinux/

root@samara:/usr/tmp# md5sum trinux-80rc2-2.4.5.iso 
003dfc74d6855a7deb16b0258a0d097a  trinux-80rc2-2.4.5.iso

The checksum should (eventually) show up in the release notes at:

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=3301&release_id=44917


Thanks for all the folks who sent in bugfixes and let me know if there are
any (more) problems.

-mdf


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Re: [Trinux-talk] ssh from trinux

[Matthew F. <mf...@ci...>]

Great message, huh :)

Are you missing the dnslibs.tgz package?  And ldconfig just in case.

Check for the presence of /lib/libnss* 

> hi there
> 
> when I run ssh from trinux it sends the message:
> You don't exist, go away!
> 
> I've already ran ssh-keygen, Am I missing something?
> -- 
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> ru...@ne...
> 

[Trinux-talk] ssh from trinux

[<rau...@ne...>]

hi there

when I run ssh from trinux it sends the message:
You don't exist, go away!

I've already ran ssh-keygen, Am I missing something?
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RE: [Trinux-talk] Pkg loading from ISO

[Matthew F. <mf...@ci...>]

> Subject: RE: [Trinux-talk] Pkg loading from ISO
> 
> This message was sent from Geocrawler.com by "Alan Turing" <the...@po...>
> 
> my prefered option for the time being is to boot from floppy and load packages from CDROM.
> 
> Not acheived this. How do you force Tinux to load packages from CDROM?
> 

I will be releasing a new ide-enabled boot floppy tomorrow (have to do one
last round of testing) that will load packages from the first
minix,vfat,ntfs,iso9660 filesystem that has trinux/baselib.tgz in it.

This is also the boot floppy that will be used to create bootable ISO's.


-mdf

Re: [Trinux-talk] Pkg loading from ISO

[Matthew F. <mf...@ci...>]

> Has anyone had any issues with the current ISO and
> some of the tar pkgs not initializing/loading
> correctly? I am getting several "Invalid header"
> messages once the CD boots (vi was one of the pkgs). I
> am also getting an error when several programs (telnet
> is one) try to load. An error in regards to their
> lib.05, if memory serves correctly? I presume that
> this is a result of one of the tar pkgs not loading
> correctly. Just a little curious, wondering If I got a
> corrupt ISO. Any info/insight would be greatly
> appreciated.
> 

I included an MD5 for the ISO. Have you checked it? 

Another possiblity (which I see more often) is that you've run out of
RAM. Unfortunately with the ISO you can't modify which packages gets
loaded so there's really nothing you can do--if this is even the problem.

The next ISO will probably probably be smaller as to encourage folks to
burn their own images with the script I provided or boot off a floppy and
then load images off a CD-ROM. I'll probably guess at which packages are
used most often (or folks can email to this list) and then burn an
8-10mb image and set the pkglist to only load enough packages for 32-64meg
box.

-mdf 

[Trinux-talk] Pkg loading from ISO

[Gauldin S. <gau...@ya...>]

Has anyone had any issues with the current ISO and
some of the tar pkgs not initializing/loading
correctly? I am getting several "Invalid header"
messages once the CD boots (vi was one of the pkgs). I
am also getting an error when several programs (telnet
is one) try to load. An error in regards to their
lib.05, if memory serves correctly? I presume that
this is a result of one of the tar pkgs not loading
correctly. Just a little curious, wondering If I got a
corrupt ISO. Any info/insight would be greatly
appreciated.

Thanks,
-Sean

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[Trinux-talk] Proxy setting on bootup?

[Will S. <wi...@pr...>]

Hi,

This is a great package.  I can now have all my commonly used network tools
with me no matter where I go.

My Question:  How can I set the proxy environment variable (SNARF_PROXY) for
snarf so that when it tries to find packages through the network I can use
the http proxy? (This is when the system boots up)

I am about to try the floppy package install that I saw mentioned on the
trinux-talk archives so that I can actually see this OS work.

Thanks,

--Will 

Re: [Trinux-talk] smbmount on kernel 2.4

[Matthew F. <mf...@ci...>]

Raul,

I just built a new one from samba-2.2.1a, but have done no testing -- I'm
not sure if it has ever worked. 

This is definitely a feature I want to have for network recovery, image
backup, and forensics stuff. I built a new The Coroner's Toolkit package
today, and I'm anxious to use smbfs with it.

You'll need to have the smbfs.o module installed. It is available in the
fsmods.tgz kernel package as well as individuall at
http://www.trinux.org/modules/

Another thing, you might make sure you have netutil.tgz installed because
it contains the full (i.e. non-busybox) versions of mount and unmount.

Thanks for all your help. I'll give it a try tomorrow. You might also take
a tcpdump trace while you attempt to mount it (be sure to capture the full
ethernet snaplen -s 1500) and look with ethereal. I think it has better
decodes.

-mdf


> hi there
> 
> I'm having problems to mount a smbfs file system, using the floppy ide image, the old/smbmount.tgz and the 2.4.5/smbfs.o
> (the smbfs.o included in smbmount.tgz cannot be loaded even with insmod -f it sends a message about in resolved simbols)
> 
> when I try to mount a  shared directory from a win2k machine I get this error message:
> 
> smbfs: mount_data version 1919251317 is not supported
> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //100.100.100.200/publico,
>        ot too many mounted file systems
> 
> any hints?
> do I need a new smbmount.tgz?
> -- 

[Trinux-talk] smbmount on kernel 2.4

[<rau...@ne...>]

hi there

I'm having problems to mount a smbfs file system, using the floppy ide image, the old/smbmount.tgz and the 2.4.5/smbfs.o
(the smbfs.o included in smbmount.tgz cannot be loaded even with insmod -f it sends a message about in resolved simbols)

when I try to mount a  shared directory from a win2k machine I get this error message:

smbfs: mount_data version 1919251317 is not supported
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //100.100.100.200/publico,
       ot too many mounted file systems

any hints?
do I need a new smbmount.tgz?
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Re: [Trinux-talk] Using floppies for package disks

[Henk-Jan H. <hjh...@wx...>]

Thanks, it work now.

HJH

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To: "Henk-Jan Hopman" <hjh...@wx...>
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Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 9:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Trinux-talk] Using floppies for package disks


> > 
> > When I download the file  071201.gz. its not the size of 582 kb. The
> > download is about 6 MB.
> > I don't think that is oke.
> > 
> > Matthew do you now what is wrong?
> > 
> 
> Yes, your browser is automatically uncompressing the .gz. Probably using
> netscape?  
> 
> I renamed the file (w/o the .gz) so it should work now.
> 
> -mdf
> 
> 
> -------------------------------------
> Matthew Franz        mf...@ci...
> Security Research Engineer
> Security Technologies Assessment Team
> 

[Trinux-talk] Re: ISO problem on desktops

[Matthew F. <mf...@ci...>]

> The command line greps for "CD-ROM," and on most systems proceeds to
> eliminate all but its "hdc" label.
> On both of my desktop systems, however, the cdrom (hdc) is _not_
> identified as a "CD-ROM," but as a "DVD-ROM."
> 
> Thus the query simply does not find the appropriate device to boot
> from. I haven't tested this (I will in a minute), but a slight
> modification to grep for "-ROM" might well do the trick and allow
> booting on any device with a standard cd-rom or newer dvd-rom.
> 

Thanks, will add it to the linuxrc and release a new initrd.gz but
probably won't burn a new .iso until later this week when I hopefully
release .80rc2 after I fix some of the kernel issues.

-mdf

[Trinux-talk] ISO problem on desktops

[dr.kaos <dr...@us...>]

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Matthew,

In trying to determine why the new ISO wouldn't boot on EITHER of my
desktops, I seem to have found the problem.
In "linuxrc," you use a command line that greps through the output
from dmesg to identify a boot device...

The command line greps for "CD-ROM," and on most systems proceeds to
eliminate all but its "hdc" label.
On both of my desktop systems, however, the cdrom (hdc) is _not_
identified as a "CD-ROM," but as a "DVD-ROM."

Thus the query simply does not find the appropriate device to boot
from. I haven't tested this (I will in a minute), but a slight
modification to grep for "-ROM" might well do the trick and allow
booting on any device with a standard cd-rom or newer dvd-rom.

cheers...
- -tb

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Re: [Trinux-talk] Using floppies for package disks

[Matthew F. <mf...@ci...>]

> 
> When I download the file  071201.gz. its not the size of 582 kb. The
> download is about 6 MB.
> I don't think that is oke.
> 
> Matthew do you now what is wrong?
> 

Yes, your browser is automatically uncompressing the .gz. Probably using
netscape?  

I renamed the file (w/o the .gz) so it should work now.

-mdf


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