trinux-talk — General discussion including questions and problem resolution

[Trinux-talk] Can't get SSH to work properly..

[David E. <dav...@nt...>]

Please help,

I have followed the instructions at =
http://trinux.sourceforge.net/remote-admin.html to the letter but still =
cant get it to work, when i try to connect it asks for a username and a =
password even though i havent set a password if I try to skip the =
username and password then I get a message saying server refused are =
public key.

Re: [Trinux-talk] Modified CDROM boot iso image

[<HHu...@t-...>]

Hallo, Matthew,

Du meintest am 02.11.01 zum Thema Re: [Trinux-talk] Modified CDROM boot iso image:

> This .iso is now available at http://www.trinux.org/iso/

> I included an md5 of the image as well, but I have *not* tested it.

It's ok.

Viele Gruesse!
Helmut

Re: [Trinux-talk] Modified CDROM boot iso image

[Matthew F. <mf...@ci...>]

This .iso is now available at http://www.trinux.org/iso/

I included an md5 of the image as well, but I have *not* tested it.

- mdf

> I have posted my modified version of the CDROM iso on my server at:
>
> http://www.timburt.com/trinux/trinux-0.80tburt-2.4.5.iso
>
> Matt says he will put it up on sourceforge, so when he gets around to it,
> I will probably take the above URL down.
>
> Hopefully, this will help some of you who are using the iso and having
> trouble adding packages.
>
> Note that after successful bootup, the CDROM is not mounted.  If you want
> to use addpkg, you will need to mount the cdrom and find the package you
> want to add.
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[Trinux-talk] Modified CDROM boot iso image

[<tb...@ti...>]

I have made some changes to the linuxrc file to smooth out the boot 
process for the CDROM version of Trinux.  It works much better for me now.  
Hopefully, I didn't break any of the floppy boot dependant code...

In addition, I added another Ram disk config for bigger ramdisks, if 
you have 512M of ram.

And one more change, I disabled the DHCP default.  The startup will ask if
you want to use DHCP, or allow you to enter your own network values.

These changes were applied to the stock trinux-0.80rc2-2.4.5 iso.

I have posted my modified version of the CDROM iso on my server at:

http://www.timburt.com/trinux/trinux-0.80tburt-2.4.5.iso

Matt says he will put it up on sourceforge, so when he gets around to it, 
I will probably take the above URL down.

Hopefully, this will help some of you who are using the iso and having 
trouble adding packages.

Note that after successful bootup, the CDROM is not mounted.  If you want 
to use addpkg, you will need to mount the cdrom and find the package you 
want to add.

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Internet Specialist

[Trinux-talk] kernel .config

[P60 <ar...@de...>]

I would like to get the .config file for the kernel on the
netbootflop-image:
trinux-0.80rc2-net.img

Thanks,
Arne

Re: [Trinux-talk] I need help please ...

[Matthew F. <mf...@ci...>]

> I think I may have missed the point....
>
> How do you know the package did not install?  Many of them install
> quietly, and only leave behind the installed executables.
>
> Getpkg depends on a network connection, I think.  The CDROM image has some
> problems establishing a net connection (I just do it by hand), and doesn't
> seem to find it's own packages..  :-(
>
> Ok, I had a quick look, the CDROM support appears to need work.
>

I agree. I am in the process of rewriting the linuxrc to improve
hardware/boot probing (did trinux boot from a floppy or CD-ROM) and
package discovery (where are the packages)

I have also rewritten the network configuration scripts which I know
performed irregularly on CD boots

I also think it is confusing to have both a pkgadd (for local retrieval)
and getpkg (remote retrieval). I have written a rmpkg that deletes a
packages files. No dependency checking or anything fancy like that.

What I'm thinking about doings is having a variable on the boot device
\tux\config\pkgsrc that specifies where the packages should be loaded from
(network/CDROM/local filesystem) if this variable is *not* found trinux
will search likely places (\trinux directories and/or network)

Thoughts?

-mdf

Re: [Trinux-talk] I need help please ...

[<tb...@ti...>]

I think I may have missed the point....

How do you know the package did not install?  Many of them install 
quietly, and only leave behind the installed executables.

Getpkg depends on a network connection, I think.  The CDROM image has some 
problems establishing a net connection (I just do it by hand), and doesn't 
seem to find it's own packages..  :-(

Ok, I had a quick look, the CDROM support appears to need work.

You will either need to DIY (do it yourself), or wait for someone else.  I 
will try to look at it again in the coming days...

BTW, pkgadd and getpkg are pretty basic scripts, and if you think they are 
not working, you can add some debugging info and figure out what is going 
on, then work around it manually.  That is what I do...

On Wed, 31 Oct 2001, Gavin Hargreaves wrote:

> Hi folks,
> 
> Firstly i am still learning linux/trinux (convert from windoze) so apologies
> in advance if this is a stupid question.
> 
> Ok i have downloaded the iso image and made a bootable CD and I have got the
> ide boot image floppy also.
> 
> My problem is when i boot with the ide floppy disk trinux boots fine and
> finds the cdrom etc but i am unable to add any other packages.  when i use
> getpkg <package name> nothing happens ... it just returns to the bash
> prompt.
> 
> if i use pkgadd <package name>.tgz it says package added but then nothing
> again.
> 
> I can mount the cd with mount /dev/hdc /mnt and then cd to it and see all
> the packages in the trinux dir
> 
> If i just boot from the CD i get the same problems.
> 
> I have also added packages to the pkglist on the boot floppy but they just
> get ignored during boot.
> 
> The solution is probably really easy but please can somebody tell me
> what/where/why etc I am doing wrong
> 
> Regards
> 
> Gavin Hargreaves
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Re: [Trinux-talk] I need help please ...

[<tb...@ti...>]

Another fellow was having difficulty with the CDROM, and I was going to 
look into it more, but I just don't have the time right now.

The CDROM is a little more difficult to debug because of the need to build 
a third filesystem (the CDROM) with the embedded floppy image, which 
contains the initial boot filesystem image, which is where some important 
scripts live.  See my prior post for more info.

The Trinux boot sequence is pretty easy to figure out.  Have a look at
/linuxrc.  This script is run to setup the filesystems and load the
initial image and packages.  Like I say, it lives in the boot filesystem
image (initrd)  which is buried pretty deep.  But you can see the script
on a live Trinux system, and you can figure out why it doesn't behave the
way you think it should.

It is probably easier to manually perform the steps yourself after boot, 
than it is to change the script.  Which, is my guess as to why it hasn't 
been fixed yet.

If you have gotten the CDROM booted, then you are 99% there.

I hope this helps....

On Wed, 31 Oct 2001, Gavin Hargreaves wrote:

> Hi folks,
> 
> Firstly i am still learning linux/trinux (convert from windoze) so apologies
> in advance if this is a stupid question.
> 
> Ok i have downloaded the iso image and made a bootable CD and I have got the
> ide boot image floppy also.
> 
> My problem is when i boot with the ide floppy disk trinux boots fine and
> finds the cdrom etc but i am unable to add any other packages.  when i use
> getpkg <package name> nothing happens ... it just returns to the bash
> prompt.
> 
> if i use pkgadd <package name>.tgz it says package added but then nothing
> again.
> 
> I can mount the cd with mount /dev/hdc /mnt and then cd to it and see all
> the packages in the trinux dir
> 
> If i just boot from the CD i get the same problems.
> 
> I have also added packages to the pkglist on the boot floppy but they just
> get ignored during boot.
> 
> The solution is probably really easy but please can somebody tell me
> what/where/why etc I am doing wrong
> 
> Regards
> 
> Gavin Hargreaves
> 
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[Trinux-talk] I need help please ...

[Gavin H. <gav...@ul...>]

Hi folks,

Firstly i am still learning linux/trinux (convert from windoze) so apologies
in advance if this is a stupid question.

Ok i have downloaded the iso image and made a bootable CD and I have got the
ide boot image floppy also.

My problem is when i boot with the ide floppy disk trinux boots fine and
finds the cdrom etc but i am unable to add any other packages.  when i use
getpkg <package name> nothing happens ... it just returns to the bash
prompt.

if i use pkgadd <package name>.tgz it says package added but then nothing
again.

I can mount the cd with mount /dev/hdc /mnt and then cd to it and see all
the packages in the trinux dir

If i just boot from the CD i get the same problems.

I have also added packages to the pkglist on the boot floppy but they just
get ignored during boot.

The solution is probably really easy but please can somebody tell me
what/where/why etc I am doing wrong

Regards

Gavin Hargreaves

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please use the following contacts
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[Trinux-talk] boot.gz & classic.gz file locations

[shawn m. <di...@tu...>]

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There are other mirrors out there besides sourceforge.  check out:

http://escert.upc.es/tools/trinux/

http://xenia.sote.hu/ftp/linux/mirrors/ftp.trinux.org/

http://download.unesp.br/linux/trinux/

good luck!

- -scm

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> 
> Today's Topics:
> 
>    1. FW: Trinux (Garcia, Jose)
> 
> --__--__--
> 
> Message: 1
> From: "Garcia, Jose" <jga...@ed...>
> To: tri...@li...
> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 10:03:36 -0600
> Subject: [Trinux-talk] FW: Trinux
> 
> Hi,
> 
> How can I get the boot.gz and classic.gz files, I want to install trinux
> following the basic direcctions  from trinux learning page but it looks like
> ftp://trinux.org  is not available and the mirrors do not have those files.
> Any help will be welcome
> 
> Thanks
> 
> JG
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don Sizemore [mailto:dl...@me...]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 7:40 AM
> To: Garcia, Jose
> Subject: RE: Trinux
> 
> 
> 
>   Hi Jose,
> 
>   We mirror Trinux from Sourceforge, and it looks like
> http://www.trinux.org/ doesn't have the .gz files either.  ibiblio
> merely mirrors the distribution and I'm afraid I can't troubleshoot
> your installation for you.  Have you written to trinux.org and asked
> for help?
> 
> |Sorry, I am not very familiar with Trinux even linux, in fact I just
> |installed linux on my pc and now I want to install the trinux so I found
> |the trinux learning page on the web. I started  following direccions, what
> I
> |understood reading the instruccions is that I need to create 2 disks, boot
> |and data disk or something and he recommend for beginners to download two
> |files boot.gz and classic.gz from a ftp which is not available right now
> |but  there are three more ftps which only one is available (ibiblio) but I
> |do not find those files and that is my point I want to find the .gz files
> to
> |begin my installation.
> |
> |Sorry for the inconveniences but like I told you I am a linux begginer....
> |
> |Thanks in advance,
> |
> |any help will be welcome
> |
> |Jose
> |
> |
> |
> |
> |-----Original Message-----
> |From: Don Sizemore [mailto:dl...@me...]
> |Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 1:06 PM
> |To: Garcia, Jose
> |Subject: Re: Trinux
> |
> |
> |
> ||	I hope you can help me, I do not know if you are the right
> ||person but anyways ...  I was trying to download the files boot.gz
> ||and classic.gz from the ftp trinux.org but I could't and then I
> ||tried to get it from your ftp but I did not find them, what I want
> ||is to install Trinux (basic installation)  and I just was following
> ||the direcctions what I found at trinux learnig page. What can I
> ||do???
> |
> |  Hi Jose,
> |
> |  I belive you'll want to install from one of the .img files, found in
> |
> |  ftp://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/trinux/boot/
> |
> |  Hope this helps!
> |
> |  Donald                                           ibiblio.org
> |                                            formerly known as SunSITE
> |  919.843.8215                                      and stoof.
> |
> 
>   Thanks,
>   Donald                                           ibiblio.org
>                                             formerly known as SunSITE
>   919.843.8215                                      and stoof.
> 
> 
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[Trinux-talk] FW: Trinux

[Garcia, J. <jga...@ed...>]

Hi,

How can I get the boot.gz and classic.gz files, I want to install trinux
following the basic direcctions  from trinux learning page but it looks like
ftp://trinux.org  is not available and the mirrors do not have those files.
Any help will be welcome

Thanks

JG

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Sizemore [mailto:dl...@me...]
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 7:40 AM
To: Garcia, Jose
Subject: RE: Trinux



  Hi Jose,

  We mirror Trinux from Sourceforge, and it looks like
http://www.trinux.org/ doesn't have the .gz files either.  ibiblio
merely mirrors the distribution and I'm afraid I can't troubleshoot
your installation for you.  Have you written to trinux.org and asked
for help?

|Sorry, I am not very familiar with Trinux even linux, in fact I just
|installed linux on my pc and now I want to install the trinux so I found
|the trinux learning page on the web. I started  following direccions, what
I
|understood reading the instruccions is that I need to create 2 disks, boot
|and data disk or something and he recommend for beginners to download two
|files boot.gz and classic.gz from a ftp which is not available right now
|but  there are three more ftps which only one is available (ibiblio) but I
|do not find those files and that is my point I want to find the .gz files
to
|begin my installation.
|
|Sorry for the inconveniences but like I told you I am a linux begginer....
|
|Thanks in advance,
|
|any help will be welcome
|
|Jose
|
|
|
|
|-----Original Message-----
|From: Don Sizemore [mailto:dl...@me...]
|Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 1:06 PM
|To: Garcia, Jose
|Subject: Re: Trinux
|
|
|
||	I hope you can help me, I do not know if you are the right
||person but anyways ...  I was trying to download the files boot.gz
||and classic.gz from the ftp trinux.org but I could't and then I
||tried to get it from your ftp but I did not find them, what I want
||is to install Trinux (basic installation)  and I just was following
||the direcctions what I found at trinux learnig page. What can I
||do???
|
|  Hi Jose,
|
|  I belive you'll want to install from one of the .img files, found in
|
|  ftp://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/trinux/boot/
|
|  Hope this helps!
|
|  Donald                                           ibiblio.org
|                                            formerly known as SunSITE
|  919.843.8215                                      and stoof.
|

  Thanks,
  Donald                                           ibiblio.org
                                            formerly known as SunSITE
  919.843.8215                                      and stoof.

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Re: [Trinux-talk] the making of packages

[Matthew F. <mf...@ci...>]

> I like the way trinux is configurable very much. I don't use trinux for
> security issues, but for a way of running clients with different purposes.
> However I like to learn the way the packages are being made, so I can create
> my own packages.
> There seems to be no kind of toturial on how to create an easy setup for
> making the packages I need.
> Any hints??
> Arne
>

building packages

binaries are compiled on Slackware 7.1 (glibc2.1.3) and then stripped.
Binaries can probably be built on any glibc2.1 platform (I think RH6.2
will still work, but 7.x are probably out since they use glibc2.2)

I have a script that automates the distribution to the trinux.org io.com
and sf.net sites but building the package is simply a tarball with a
startup script in /etc/init.d/package-name

- mdf

[Trinux-talk] the making of packages

[P60 <ar...@de...>]

I like the way trinux is configurable very much. I don't use trinux for
security issues, but for a way of running clients with different purposes.
However I like to learn the way the packages are being made, so I can create
my own packages.
There seems to be no kind of toturial on how to create an easy setup for
making the packages I need.
Any hints??
Arne

Re: [Trinux-talk] Inet(R) PRO/100+ MiniPCI kernel needed

[Matthew F. <mf...@ci...>]

> I am new to this. I downloaded the PCMCIA boot image,
> however, it doesn;t have the PCMCIA kernel packages
> that i am using. My PCMICA is build in w/ the laptop,
> which is Inet(R) PRO/100+ MiniPCI. Where can i find
> the kernel for my nic. Thanks a lot.
>

What Chipset does it use?

If it is built into the mobo then it is probably not PCMCIA so you don't
need the pcmcia boot disk. :)

-mdf

[Trinux-talk] Inet(R) PRO/100+ MiniPCI kernel needed

[Oldmoon s. <old...@ya...>]

Hi all, 

I am new to this. I downloaded the PCMCIA boot image,
however, it doesn;t have the PCMCIA kernel packages
that i am using. My PCMICA is build in w/ the laptop,
which is Inet(R) PRO/100+ MiniPCI. Where can i find
the kernel for my nic. Thanks a lot. 

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[Trinux-talk] Boot from Floppy, Package on HD

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[Trinux-talk] debugging CDROM boot *or* where do I find linuxrc?

[<tb...@ti...>]

After booting from a floppy, or a cdrom, you should have a file in the
root called linuxrc.  This is the basic "RUN COMPUTER" script that is run
early in the boot process.  It sets up the ramdisks, loads some needed
modules and eventually starts the shells that run on the ttys.  It would
be nice to be able to modify this script with some echo's and debugging
output, but where do you find the file to modify?

First, the .iso file is a cdrom image.  On linux, you can mount a cdrom.  
Or you can mount the image (.iso file) using the -o loop parameter to the
mount command.

If you have the trinux.iso file you need to mount it with:

mount -o loop trinux.iso /mnt

This will be mounted read only, so you will need to make a copy that you 
can later use to master another trinux.iso file.  So, make a folder in 
/tmp called /tmp/trinux.

I use the find/cpio command to copy the entire cdrom to the new work 
directory (/tmp/trinux).

cd /mnt
find . -depth -print | cpio -pmduv /tmp/trinux

Once this is finished, you can umount the iso image with:

cd /tmp
umount /mnt

Inside the work directory (/tmp/trinux) you will find the boot.img.  This 
is an image of a floppy disk.  This floppy disk image, is what allows a 
system to boot from cdrom.  You see, the bios in these X86 systems don't 
really know how to boot from CDROM, so we trick it into thinking it is a 
floppy and we hand it a floppy image at boot time.

Now, just like we mounted the iso image, to see what was there, we can 
mount the boot.img just as if we were mounting a floppy.  Again, using the 
-o loop parameter to mount.

cd /tmp/trinux
mount -o loop boot.img /mnt

Now we have a pseudo floppy mounted on /mnt.  Unlike the CDrom iso image, 
this image is not read-only.  You can modify it just like a floppy.  
However, searching this floppy image for the elusive linuxrc file will 
result in disappointment.  If the linuxrc file doesn't exist on the iso 
image, and it doesn't exist on the boot.img floppy image, then where is 
it?

Answer:

The floppy boot process loads the kernel and is smart enough to unpack a 
previously prepared filesystem.  This filesystem must be as small as 
possible, because it must fit entirely on the floppy with the kernel and 
the other necessary files.  This germ of a filesystem is contained on the 
boot floppy as initrd.gz.  It is compressed, to make it as small as 
possible.  It is a minux filesystem, and can be mounted and modified just 
like the others, using the -o loop parameter to mount.

First create another mountpoint in the root.

mkdir /mnt2

Now cd /mnt and copy the initrd.gz file to /tmp

Unzip the initrd file and then mount it to /mnt2

cd /tmp
gunzip initrd.gz
mount -o loop initrd /mnt2

cd to /mnt2 and there you will find the elusive linuxrc file.  You can 
edit this file with vi, and save the changes in place.  Just remember 
before you go adding another 50 lines of code, that this image needs to 
stay the same size.  You have very little room for expansion.

Once you have added your echos or special (debug) code, then you need to 
reverse the whole process.

cd /tmp.
umount /mnt2

This will release the initrd image in /tmp.  Now zip this guy back up.

gzip initrd

copy this gzipped image back to the boot floppy image that is still 
mounted on /mnt

cp initrd.gz /mnt

Now you can unmount the floppy image from /mnt

umount /mnt

This will release the file boot.img that is in the working copy of the 
cdrom image (/tmp/trinux/boot.img).

Now you can create a new iso image from the work directory.  Something 
like this should work:

cd /tmp/trinux
mkisofs -v -J -o ../trinux.iso -b boot.img .

This should give you a new iso image in /tmp that you can burn to a cd.

Either use the cdrecord command in Linux, or copy it to a Microsoft OS and 
run Adaptec CD Creator to burn the iso image to a fresh CD blank.

Debugging the CDROM boot process can be a real chore, but hopefully once 
you understand where the files are hiding, you have a fighting chance.

Finally, once you get your CDROM booting the way you like, or find that
nasty bug that is keeping your special situation from working like it
should, don't keep it to yourself.  Give Matt the lowdown or the diffs so
he can incorporate the fix for all of us...

I hope this helps...

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[Trinux-talk] Trinux with USB SanDisk Compact Flash reader

[Matthew F. <mat...@ya...>]

If there is any interest, I'll release a trinux-usb
boot disk and some instructions for using with a USB
SanDisk Compact Flash reader (SDDR-31-01) with Trinux.

Basically there is a now a usb-core.tgz package and a
new kernel at
http://www.io.com/~mdfranz/trinux/kernel/ that has
in-built scsi.

These devices are pretty neat. They are cheap ($30 US)
and fit in your pocket and provide a decent amount of
read *and* write storage. I'm currently looking into
the possibility of loading packages from them and/or
installing trinux on a CompactFlash. If I can find any
CompactFlash to IDE adapters, booting may be possible
as well.

- mdf

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Re: [Trinux-talk] Cloning Hard disk with Trinux

[Matthew F. <mat...@ya...>]

Thanks for the detailed tutorial. I added a new "War
Stories" link off the trinux sourceforge site
(http://trinux.sf.net/stories/ ) that will archive
tips, tricks, and cool uses such as this.

--- tb...@ti... wrote:
> 
> I admin a small ISP.  In the past few weeks, we have
> had three Seagate 
> drives bite the dust (all the same model/batch), so
> the assumption is that 
> the other drives are following soon.


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Re: [Trinux-talk] (no subject)

[<tb...@ti...>]

A workaround might be to do an insmod in your /tux/init/last script.

Put the module packages in the pkglist (to grab them), then...

Add this line to /tux/init/last

insmod /lib/modules/yourmodule.o

On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, Joe Fico wrote:

> Hi.
> 
> I've created my bootable CD off of trinux-0.80rc2-2.4.5.iso image.
> 
> Question. What device is the CD associated with so I can mount it?
> It seems odd to not mount the CD since I just booted off of it.
> 
> I am also having the same problems as Phill in loading in additional
> packages.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Joe
> 
> 
> >FROM: deloitte.co.nzDATE: 10/09/2001 16:14:30
> >SUBJECT:  [Trinux-talk] Problems with a bootable
> >Trinux CD Hello all
> 
> >I have created a Trinux boot CD that works really well but I'm having
> >difficulties creating a cd that will load additional kernel modules when it
> >boots.
> 
> >I am trying to load the following kernel modules
> >to create a bootable Linux cd that supports the PCMCIA Xircom network card
> >on my laptop.
> 
> >pcmcia-bin.tgz
> >pcmcia-coremods.tgz
> >pcmcia-xirc2ps.tgz
> 
> >To try and get this working I have been copying these files into the
> >/TRINUX/ directory on my CD image and adding the package filenames to
> >/TRINUX/tux/config/kpkglist on the CD image.
> 
> >But this does not work.  The modules just do not load at boot time.
> 
> >Once Trinux has booted I can then mount the CD-ROM, copy these three
> >packages to the root directory, untar them, and exec pcmcia to initialise
> >the network card.
> 
> >This brings up the network card fine.
> 
> >Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  I feel like there is
> >something small that I am missing as I'm still getting my head around
> >Trinux.
> 
> >Great tools kit though.
> 
> >Phill
> 
> 
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[Trinux-talk] Cloning Hard disk with Trinux

[<tb...@ti...>]

I admin a small ISP.  In the past few weeks, we have had three Seagate 
drives bite the dust (all the same model/batch), so the assumption is that 
the other drives are following soon.

Replacement drives are only about $100 at Fry's, but who wants to rebuild
a dozen machines.  The new drives are also bigger, so using dd to image
the drives would work, but I wouldn't get the benefit of the increased
drive space.

Enter Trinux ( Thank you Matt! ).

Here is how to clone your hard disks, and get the benefit of the increased 
capacity of the newer disk.  Note that I am actually cloning RedHat 
installations.  It doesn't matter.

First, make sure you have available the following packages:

diskutil
ext2tools
fileutil
modutil

and

fsmods   <-- from the pkg/2.4.5 folder

Open your computer case, and install your new hard disk.  Unplug the CDRom
(usually connected to primary on the second controller) and plug in your
old hard disk instead.

Boot Trinux from floppy and load the above packages.

The boot kernel doesn't support ext2 filesystems, so you must add the 
support via a module.

Install the ext2.0 module with the command:

insmod /lib/modules/ext2.o

Now prep your new hard disk with fdisk (or your favorite disk partion 
app).  I set my disks to:

fdisk /dev/hda

Partition 1  <-- /boot   250M (make this partition active)
Partition 2  <-- Swap    250M (change to type 82)
Partition 3  <-- /       Whatever remains.  As big as possiible

X86 boxes, and the ancient requirements that all bootable load modules be 
located in the first 1024 cylinders, need to have the kernels loaded in 
the first part of the disk.  This is why the separate boot partition.

Once you have the partitions set, format them with ext2 filesystems with 
the command:

mke2fs /dev/hda1
mke2fs /dev/hda3
and create the swap partition.
mkswap /dev/hda2

Be extra careful here, because if you put the disks in backwards, you 
could be formatting the old data...    To be really careful, don't 
plug in the old data disk until after you have formatted the new one.  I 
do this extra step when the data is critical, and I don't have backups....

Now make two mount points..

mkdir /new
mkdir /old

mount up the old disk with:

mount /dev/hdc3 /old
mount /dev/hdc1 /old/boot

It might be prudent to e2fsck them first...  Then..

mount up the new partitions with:

mount /dev/hda3 /new
mkdir /new/boot              <-- need to create new mountpoint for boot
mount /dev/hda1 /new/boot

now cd to /old and execute the following:

find . -depth -print | cpio -pmduv /new

This will copy the contents, file by file from the old disk to the new 
one.  The -depth parameter helps insure that all directories get chowned 
and chmoded properly, otherwise, cpio will make them owned by the same 
owner as the first file it writes to the folder. (It is faster if you 
leave off the "v", but then you stare at a prompt for a long time..)

After the file copy is complete, then you need to run lilo, or whatever 
bootloader you are using.  I use the command:

cd /new/etc
lilo -r /new

The "-r /new" causes lilo to do a chroot to /new before running lilo, 
which is required since you have your new root partition mounted on /new, 
not the root.  Lilo also requires that the disk being bootstrapped be 
connected to the controller it will boot from.  This is why the new disk 
needs to be put in place on the primary controller, and not the other way 
around.

One last caveat..  RedHat 7.0 is using disk labels in the /etc/fstab file 
instead of the good old devs.  I just edit the labels out and replace them 
with /dev/hda1 and /dev/hda3 in the fstab file.  Or you could label the 
partitions, but I didn't figgure out how to do that yet...

sync and unmount the disks.

Shut down the system and remove the old disk.  Plug the CDRom back on and 
boot her up...  Back online with all configs, log files, etc, just like 
when you shut it down.

I hope this helps someone out, somewhere...  I have been using this method 
for about a dozen years, since my days at Locus.  cpio is the only app I 
have found that makes perfect mirror images (devs, procs and all), but 
only if you use -depth with the find...

I noticed ntfs tools are available.  This might work with Windows disks 
too.  I haven't tried.

And Thanks again to Matt, for putting up find and cpio on the pkg site for 
me.

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--------------------
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Internet Specialist

[Trinux-talk] (no subject)

[Joe F. <Fi...@Ai...>]

Hi.

I've created my bootable CD off of trinux-0.80rc2-2.4.5.iso image.

Question. What device is the CD associated with so I can mount it?
It seems odd to not mount the CD since I just booted off of it.

I am also having the same problems as Phill in loading in additional
packages.

Thanks,

Joe


>FROM: deloitte.co.nzDATE: 10/09/2001 16:14:30
>SUBJECT:  [Trinux-talk] Problems with a bootable
>Trinux CD Hello all

>I have created a Trinux boot CD that works really well but I'm having
>difficulties creating a cd that will load additional kernel modules when it
>boots.

>I am trying to load the following kernel modules
>to create a bootable Linux cd that supports the PCMCIA Xircom network card
>on my laptop.

>pcmcia-bin.tgz
>pcmcia-coremods.tgz
>pcmcia-xirc2ps.tgz

>To try and get this working I have been copying these files into the
>/TRINUX/ directory on my CD image and adding the package filenames to
>/TRINUX/tux/config/kpkglist on the CD image.

>But this does not work.  The modules just do not load at boot time.

>Once Trinux has booted I can then mount the CD-ROM, copy these three
>packages to the root directory, untar them, and exec pcmcia to initialise
>the network card.

>This brings up the network card fine.

>Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  I feel like there is
>something small that I am missing as I'm still getting my head around
>Trinux.

>Great tools kit though.

>Phill

Re: [Trinux-talk] SNORT - libraries missing?

[Matthew F. <mat...@ya...>]

What libraries? 

--- Sean Doull-Connolly <sdo...@hu...>
wrote:
> Trinux 0.80rc2 loads the SNORT package, but
> complains that
> some libraries are missing.  Has anyone else seen
> this problem?
> What library package(s) do I need to load for SNORT?
> 
> Thanks
> 
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[Trinux-talk] re: snort - libraries missing?

[shawn m. <di...@tu...>]

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you may need to do a ldconfig to sync up the libraries.  also, you may
need the term.tgz package.

one thing that i noticed is that the snort pkg did not create a log folder
in /var/log/ 

- -scm

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> Subject: [Trinux-talk] SNORT - libraries missing?
> 
> Trinux 0.80rc2 loads the SNORT package, but complains that
> some libraries are missing.  Has anyone else seen this problem?
> What library package(s) do I need to load for SNORT?
> 
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