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From: Brent R. <bre...@cc...> - 2004-01-30 20:10:04
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Hi all, To answer roms' questions: 1) I primarily use Gentoo Linux (2.6) kernel, although I now have an=20 Apple laptop running OS X. Maybe time to port to a new platform? :) 2) I have an 83+SE 3) I have a SilverLink cable, and a black serial cable (I tend to use=20 the black cable because the USB one always seems kind of flaky for me) 4) I use Gnome (and OS X, as I said above) 5) Better integration would always be welcome (seeing as TiLP is=20 already GTK-based, Gnome integration would be nice) 6) I would be available for development, although I do not have a lot=20 of experience with the TiLP code itself, or with low-level hardware=20 control stuff. 7) I think all I would really look for is a variable editor, and a=20 program editor. A nice, open-source emulator would be great, but it's=20 not a major need for me. Hope this helps! Brent Redeker On Jan 29, 2004, at 10:00 AM, Romain LIEVIN wrote: > Hi to all my users & developers ! > > > TiLP (and all others TI related software) development has been stopped=20= > for 6 months now > due to various reasons... But, I'm gonna to take over TiLP development=20= > soon... > > Given that I'm not a student any more, I will have less time... Thus,=20= > I will focus me > on things are important and I will delegate some work (if possible). > Delegation may include: graphism, web site, documentation,=20 > translators, developers, > packaging. > > This is the reason why I'm writing this mail; it's a kind of=20 > survey/poll. > > > At first, I will stop every Win32 support. I will keep in mind Win32=20= > extensions or > gateways for others developpers but there will not be new code. > For now, it's Linux/U*IX only ! Win32 porters/developers are = welcome... > > > Next, a simple poll: > > 1=B0) Which is your primary OS ? secondary ? ... > 2=B0) Which calculator do you own ? > 3=B0) Which link cable do you have ? > 4=B0) Which is your desktop (Gnome, KDE, ...) ? > 5=B0) Will you be interested in a better integration with the desktop = ? > 6=B0) Will you be interested in TiLP development, support, help,=20 > testing, ... ? > If yes, please tell me which field. Please not that you must have a=20 > good availability. > 7=B0) What software would you like to get (emulator, editors, ...) ? > > > At last, I would like to know some of your prefs, what you would like > to do or see... All suggestions are welcome ! > > Please reply on the 2 mailing-lists. > > > Regards, Romain. > --- > Romain Li=E9vin > Site web > Messagerie instantan=E9e (ICQ) 43585029 > "Linux, y'a moins bien mais c'est plus cher !" > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 > Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration > See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anaheim, CA. > http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn > _______________________________________________ > TiLP-users mailing list > TiL...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tilp-users > |
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From: Romain L. <rom...@wa...> - 2004-01-30 18:03:58
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Hi to all my users & developers ! TiLP (and all others TI related software) development has been stopped for = 6 months now=20 due to various reasons... But, I'm gonna to take over TiLP development soon= ... Given that I'm not a student any more, I will have less time... Thus, I wil= l focus me on things are important and I will delegate some work (if possible). Delegation may include: graphism, web site, documentation, translators, dev= elopers, packaging. This is the reason why I'm writing this mail; it's a kind of survey/poll. At first, I will stop every Win32 support. I will keep in mind Win32 extens= ions or gateways for others developpers but there will not be new code. For now, it's Linux/U*IX only ! Win32 porters/developers are welcome... Next, a simple poll: 1=B0) Which is your primary OS ? secondary ? ... 2=B0) Which calculator do you own ? 3=B0) Which link cable do you have ? 4=B0) Which is your desktop (Gnome, KDE, ...) ? 5=B0) Will you be interested in a better integration with the desktop ? 6=B0) Will you be interested in TiLP development, support, help, testing, .= .. ? If yes, please tell me which field. Please not that you must have a good av= ailability. 7=B0) What software would you like to get (emulator, editors, ...) ? At last, I would like to know some of your prefs, what you would like to do or see... All suggestions are welcome ! Please reply on the 2 mailing-lists. Regards, Romain. ---=20 Romain Li=E9vin =20 Site web =20 Messagerie instantan=E9e (ICQ) 43585029=20 "Linux, y'a moins bien mais c'est plus cher !" |
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From: Service de d. du c. <pos...@li...> - 2004-01-28 20:17:15
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- Ces destinataires ont =E9t=E9 trait=E9s par le serveur de messagerie : da...@li...; =C9chec; 5.2.2 (bo=EEte aux lettres satur=E9e) |
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From: Romain L. <rom...@wa...> - 2004-01-28 10:28:30
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Hi, > Message du 28/01/04 00:26 > De : John Spiegel=20 > A : til...@li... > Copie =E0 :=20 > Objet : Re: Re: [TiLP-devel] Backups and Erasing memory > It's a Voyage 200 using the latest OS (2.09 I think).=20 Well, TI introduced new linking functions in this OS... > Still, I think it's possible with others (92's, 89's). If AMS is upgraded to 2.09, it should be. > I'll see if I can confirm this with him. Anyways, it's quite interesting because it will allow to manage calc like a= filesystem ! >=20 > How can we go about capturing the protocol? The easiest way: - a PC with TI-Connect software, - a calculator, - a Gray Link, - another PC with 2 COM ports and a terminal to spy transferts, - a 'do-it-yourself' serial cable (RxD(pc1) =3D> RxD(pc2,com1) and TxD(pc1)= =3D> RxD(pc2,com2)) >=20 > John roms. >=20 > On Tue, 2004-01-27 at 01:45, Romain LIEVIN wrote: > > Hi, > >=20 > >=20 > > > Objet : Re: [TiLP-devel] Backups and Erasing > memory > > > The Mac guy in our project is able to delete > variables > > > off thecalculator using the applescript API to > > > TIConnect for Mac. So it's gotto be possible > > > somehow... Any ideas on capturing messages being > sent > > > tothe calc > >=20 > > Very interesting ! Which calculator model is he > using ?=20 > > This may be possible because TI recently implemented > some new I/O link functions in their OS=20 >=20 > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! > http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------- > The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 > Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration > See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anaheim, CA. > http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn > _______________________________________________ > TiLP-devel mailing list > TiL...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tilp-devel >=20 ---=20 Romain Li=E9vin =20 Site web =20 Messagerie instantan=E9e (ICQ) 43585029=20 "Linux, y'a moins bien mais c'est plus cher !" |
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From: John S. <mi...@ya...> - 2004-01-27 23:24:36
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It's a Voyage 200 using the latest OS (2.09 I think). Still, I think it's possible with others (92's, 89's). I'll see if I can confirm this with him. How can we go about capturing the protocol? John On Tue, 2004-01-27 at 01:45, Romain LIEVIN wrote: > Hi, > > > > Objet : Re: [TiLP-devel] Backups and Erasing memory > > The Mac guy in our project is able to delete variables > > off thecalculator using the applescript API to > > TIConnect for Mac. So it's gotto be possible > > somehow... Any ideas on capturing messages being sent > > tothe calc > > Very interesting ! Which calculator model is he using ? > This may be possible because TI recently implemented some new I/O link functions in their OS __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ |
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From: <sa...@em...> - 2004-01-27 17:28:32
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From: Romain L. <rom...@wa...> - 2004-01-27 07:46:05
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Hi, > Objet : Re: [TiLP-devel] Backups and Erasing memory > The Mac guy in our project is able to delete variables > off thecalculator using the applescript API to > TIConnect for Mac. So it's gotto be possible > somehow... Any ideas on capturing messages being sent > tothe calc Very interesting ! Which calculator model is he using ?=20 This may be possible because TI recently implemented some new I/O link func= tions in their OS (TI-navigator). >=20 > John >=20 roms > On Tue, 2004-01-27 at 01:16, Romain LIEVIN wrote: > > There is no way to erase vars from the link like HP calcs. >=20 > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! > http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------- > The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 > Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration > See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anaheim, CA. > http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn > _______________________________________________ > TiLP-devel mailing list > TiL...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tilp-devel >=20 ---=20 Romain Li=E9vin =20 Site web =20 Messagerie instantan=E9e (ICQ) 43585029=20 "Linux, y'a moins bien mais c'est plus cher !" |
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From: John S. <mi...@ya...> - 2004-01-27 07:39:40
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The Mac guy in our project is able to delete variables off thecalculator using the applescript API to TIConnect for Mac. So it's gotto be possible somehow... Any ideas on capturing messages being sent tothe calc John On Tue, 2004-01-27 at 01:16, Romain LIEVIN wrote: > There is no way to erase vars from the link like HP calcs. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ |
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From: Romain L. <rom...@wa...> - 2004-01-27 07:16:35
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Hi, > Objet : [TiLP-devel] Backups and Erasing memory > How does Tilp erase the memory when it restores a backup? And in > particular, is there any way to apply this to individual variables? TiLP does not erase memory itself when it restores a backup. This step is m= anaged internally by calc. There is no way to erase vars from the link like HP calcs. >=20 > John >=20 roms >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------- > The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 > Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration > See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anaheim, CA. > http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn > _______________________________________________ > TiLP-devel mailing list > TiL...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tilp-devel >=20 ---=20 Romain Li=E9vin =20 Site web =20 Messagerie instantan=E9e (ICQ) 43585029=20 "Linux, y'a moins bien mais c'est plus cher !" |
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From: John S. <mi...@ya...> - 2004-01-26 18:00:03
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How does Tilp erase the memory when it restores a backup? And in particular, is there any way to apply this to individual variables? John |
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From: Brent R. <bre...@ca...> - 2004-01-24 20:08:47
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roms, Thanks for the reply. >> the problem, I also realized the info on the TiLP site is quite outdated - >> which is probably my fault >> for not keeping the web site maintainer informed of changes. > >Well, link seems to be broken... If you mean the link to my ebuilds, yes, it's broken for now. (Permissions on the server hosting that link got reset or something, so the files are currently only 0600 - thus the 403 error). It's easy enough to fix, but like I said, they're outdated anyway, so it's probably better to just remove that link from the TiLP site. >At the time being, nobody maintains the TiLP SourceForge site any more. TiLP development has been stopped for a while. But, things are expected to restart soon (as explained in the news section). I can't give a deadline because my schedule is currently a bit complicated ( ><my life> >I have a girlfriend. >I live in my girlfriend' flat, >my girlfriend is pregnant (yes, yes !) >I don't have an PC (with Linux) anymore, >I switched from my job to another, >I am gonna to switch from this flat to a bigger one, >I wouls like to buy a Linux laptop, >... ></my> Wow, sounds like you have a lot going on. Congratulations on the baby-to-be; I hope all goes well. >If you need access to the site, I can give you permissions by adding you to the team... That is fine by me. My updates are minor, but I'd be glad to make them myself. Just one question - I've never really updated anything on SourceForge, so how do you go about changing a web page? (I know HTML and PHP fairly well - I'm just wondering how you edit/upload the actual files.) >Note: I would like to thanks people involved in this still exciting project ! And thank you for creating it and being involved as much as you are currently able to. Brent |
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From: Romain L. <rom...@wa...> - 2004-01-24 09:07:47
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Hi Brent, Hi evryone, > Message du 24/01/04 08:57 > De : Brent Redeker <bre...@ca...> > A : til...@li... > Copie =E0 :=20 > Objet : [TiLP-devel] Web site update > the problem, I also realized the info on the TiLP site is quite outdated = -=20 > which is probably my fault=20 > for not keeping the web site maintainer informed of changes. Well, link seems to be broken... > I'm not sure who maintains the TiLP SourceForge site anymore, so I'm send= ing=20 > this to the=20 > development list. Please contact me with any questions, or if further=20 > information is desired. At the time being, nobody maintains the TiLP SourceForge site any more. TiL= P development has been stopped for a while. But, things are expected to res= tart soon (as explained in the news section). I can't give a deadline becau= se my schedule is currently a bit complicated ( <my life> I have a girlfriend. I live in my girlfriend' flat, my girlfriend is pregnant (yes, yes !) I don't have an PC (with Linux) anymore, I switched from my job to another,=20 I am gonna to switch from this flat to a bigger one, I wouls like to buy a Linux laptop, ... </my life> I hope to restart TiLP development on March. >=20 > Thanks in advance to whoever can update the site! If you need access to the site, I can give you permissions by adding you to= the team... >=20 > Brent Redeker >=20 =20 Note: I would like to thanks people involved in this still exciting project= ! Linux rocks, rocks, rocks !!! Romain. --- Romain Li=E9vin =09 <ro...@ti...> Site web =09 <http://rlievin.dyndns.org> Messagerie instantan=E9e (ICQ) 43585029 "Linux, y'a moins bien mais c'est plus cher !" |
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From: Brent R. <bre...@ca...> - 2004-01-24 07:56:02
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Hi all, For those who don't know me, I worked with roms to get the TiLP makefiles in shape to create ebuilds for the Gentoo Linux distro. I'm currently listed as the maintainer of the Gentoo Linux packages on the TiLP SourceForge site. Anyway, I was just contacted by somebody who saw my contact info on the site about a problem with the Gentoo ebuilds linked to on http://tilp.sourceforge.net/tilp-linux.php. After checking out the problem, I also realized the info on the TiLP site is quite outdated - which is probably my fault for not keeping the web site maintainer informed of changes. Anyway, the ebuilds for TiLP (and the library dependencies) are now in Gentoo Linux Portage. The ebuilds there are newer than the ones I have publically available, so the web site should probably be updated to tell people to look in the Gentoo Linux 'app-sci' category for the necessary ebuilds. The status of the latest ebuilds can be seen at http://packages.gentoo.org/packages/?category=app-sci;name=tilp http://packages.gentoo.org/packages/?category=dev-libs;name=libticables http://packages.gentoo.org/packages/?category=dev-libs;name=libticalcs http://packages.gentoo.org/packages/?category=dev-libs;name=libtifiles Also, I haven't had a hand in the latest TiLP updates in Gentoo, so problems with or enhancements to the ebuilds are probably best addressed by using Gentoo's Bugzilla (http://bugs.gentoo.org/). Of course, my email address is the same if anybody has a question they really want to ask me directly. I'm not sure who maintains the TiLP SourceForge site anymore, so I'm sending this to the development list. Please contact me with any questions, or if further information is desired. Thanks in advance to whoever can update the site! Brent Redeker |
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From: Julien B. <jb...@jb...> - 2003-11-23 07:54:09
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Carlos Becker <cj...@so...> wrote: >> Ok, I can execute commands on the calculator (It required sending a 0x13 >> (carriage return) byte). Is there any way to send a "Command" (diamond) >> keypress or "2nd"? Can the other keys (apps, clear, etc.) be "pressed"? > > maybe you can use the getkey() ti-basic command.. who knows, maybe the same key codes are used... Exactly. You just need to send the keycode for the key. The keycodes are listed in the TI manual (available as a PDF file from TI's website) and in the libticalcs headers. Be warned, the TI manual is wrong when it comes to arrow keys ; they swapped the keys somehow. JB. -- Julien BLACHE <http://www.jblache.org> <jb...@jb...> |
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From: Carlos B. <cj...@so...> - 2003-11-23 01:56:20
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On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:31:55 -0600 John Spiegel <mi...@ya...> wrote: > Ok, I can execute commands on the calculator (It required sending a 0x13 > (carriage return) byte). Is there any way to send a "Command" (diamond) > keypress or "2nd"? Can the other keys (apps, clear, etc.) be "pressed"? > maybe you can use the getkey() ti-basic command.. who knows, maybe the same key codes are used... |
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From: John S. <mi...@ya...> - 2003-11-23 00:31:13
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Ok, I can execute commands on the calculator (It required sending a 0x13 (carriage return) byte). Is there any way to send a "Command" (diamond) keypress or "2nd"? Can the other keys (apps, clear, etc.) be "pressed"? John On Sat, 2003-11-22 at 15:37, Julien BLACHE wrote: > John Spiegel <mi...@ya...> wrote: > > Hi, > > > I saw from one of the examples that text could be sent to the > > calculator. Is there a way to send a 'return' so that a command could > > be executed? Is there a better way to execute commands on the > > calculator? > > Simply send a \n to the calc with the remote control/terminal mode. > > And there's no better way. The TI protocol sucks anyway. > > JB. |
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From: John S. <mi...@ya...> - 2003-11-22 21:42:51
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Thanks a bunch! On Sat, 2003-11-22 at 15:37, Julien BLACHE wrote: > John Spiegel <mi...@ya...> wrote: > > Hi, > > > I saw from one of the examples that text could be sent to the > > calculator. Is there a way to send a 'return' so that a command could > > be executed? Is there a better way to execute commands on the > > calculator? > > Simply send a \n to the calc with the remote control/terminal mode. > > And there's no better way. The TI protocol sucks anyway. > > JB. |
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From: Julien B. <jb...@jb...> - 2003-11-22 21:37:48
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John Spiegel <mi...@ya...> wrote: Hi, > I saw from one of the examples that text could be sent to the > calculator. Is there a way to send a 'return' so that a command could > be executed? Is there a better way to execute commands on the > calculator? Simply send a \n to the calc with the remote control/terminal mode. And there's no better way. The TI protocol sucks anyway. JB. -- Julien BLACHE <http://www.jblache.org> <jb...@jb...> |
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From: John S. <mi...@ya...> - 2003-11-22 19:57:32
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I saw from one of the examples that text could be sent to the calculator. Is there a way to send a 'return' so that a command could be executed? Is there a better way to execute commands on the calculator? John |
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From: Romain L. <rom...@wa...> - 2003-11-14 08:54:15
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Hi, > Message du 14/11/03 06:37 > De : John Spiegel <Joh...@le...> > A : til...@li... > Copie =E0 :=20 > Objet : [TiLP-devel] Deleting Variables >=20 > Is there any way to delete variables off the calculator using Tilp? Contrary to HP calcs, it's not possible at the time being. >=20 > More specifically, is there any way to delete variables off the > calculator using libticalcs? No, there isn't. >=20 > Thanks for any help, > John >=20 >=20 roms >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by: ApacheCon 2003, > 16-19 November in Las Vegas. Learn firsthand the latest > developments in Apache, PHP, Perl, XML, Java, MySQL, > WebDAV, and more! http://www.apachecon.com/ > _______________________________________________ > TiLP-devel mailing list > TiL...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tilp-devel >=20 --- Romain Li=E9vin =09 <ro...@ti...> Site web =09 <http://rlievin.dyndns.org> Messagerie instantan=E9e (ICQ) 43585029 "Linux, y'a moins bien mais c'est plus cher !" |
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From: John S. <Joh...@le...> - 2003-11-14 05:36:43
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Is there any way to delete variables off the calculator using Tilp? More specifically, is there any way to delete variables off the calculator using libticalcs? Thanks for any help, John |
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From: Romain L. <rom...@wa...> - 2003-11-10 07:45:48
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Hi, John Spiegel a écrit : > What is the recommended means of compiling TiLP libraries on Win32? Is > it using mingw? msys? Are there any special defines that need to be > set? (__WIN32__ ?) If so, how and where should they be set? The best tool for compiling TiLP libs is not free: MSVC 5.0 or 6.0. They can be compiled with MinGW (thanks to K. Kofler) but the generated libs can have some problems to be linked. Sincerely, MinGW is a pain of ass :-( > > In the win32/mingw folder of each library source, there is a README > which says to './config4mingw', 'make', and 'make install'. However, > there is no config4mingw script. There are some other files that look Yes, you're right. I did not find this file... Maybe I lost it when merging TiLP with the CVS. There was some target defs in the script as well as i18n options. I don't remember exactly what stuffs they are within. Sorry ! > like they're used for compiling dll's, but no info on how to use them. > > Thanks for any help! > John > > roms. > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by: ApacheCon 2003, > 16-19 November in Las Vegas. Learn firsthand the latest > developments in Apache, PHP, Perl, XML, Java, MySQL, > WebDAV, and more! http://www.apachecon.com/ > _______________________________________________ > TiLP-devel mailing list > TiL...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tilp-devel > -- Romain Liévin, aka 'roms' <ro...@ti...> Site web <http://tilp.info> Messagerie instantanée (ICQ) 43585029 "Linux, y'a moins bien mais c'est plus cher !" |
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From: John S. <mi...@ya...> - 2003-11-09 22:56:38
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What is the recommended means of compiling TiLP libraries on Win32? Is it using mingw? msys? Are there any special defines that need to be set? (__WIN32__ ?) If so, how and where should they be set? In the win32/mingw folder of each library source, there is a README which says to './config4mingw', 'make', and 'make install'. However, there is no config4mingw script. There are some other files that look like they're used for compiling dll's, but no info on how to use them. Thanks for any help! John |
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From: Julien B. <jb...@jb...> - 2003-11-06 14:41:23
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Hi, I've just fixed a heap corruption in TiLP, and I had to run Valgrind on TiLP to find it. This reveals a lot of errors related to string handling ; most of the time TiLP is reading past the end of a buffer, but from time to time it's *WRITING* past the end of the buffer, which is a real problem. The problem I fixed was lying in the format() function in src/labels.c. This function is called with a buffer returned by a GTK function as its argument, and *modifies* this buffer. Eventually, it can write past the end of the buffer. How bad that is. I wonder if the GTK docs aren't explicite enough when they tell *not to modify a buffer returned by a GTK function*... If somebody has more free time than I actually do, it'd be nice to run TiLP under Valgrind and fix the errors... For a (colored) diff, see : <http://svn.technologeek.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/tilp/trunk/src/labels.c?r1=338&r2=357&diff_format=h&root=tilp> JB. -- Julien BLACHE <http://www.jblache.org> <jb...@jb...> |
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From: Julien B. <jb...@jb...> - 2003-10-24 19:13:45
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John Spiegel <mi...@ya...> wrote: Hi, > I've been working on compiling TiLP on OSX. It almost > compiles by setting CFLAGS='-D __MACOSX__' (isn't > there a way to get configure to set that > automatically?). However, I get an error compiling > timodules.c: TiLP + libs aren't supposed to be buildable on Mac OS X using the standard ./configure && make && make install. > gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DLOCALEDIR=\"/usr/share/locale\" > -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I/usr/include -I../intl -I../intl > -DPREFIX=\"/usr\" -I. -D__MACOSX__ -Wall -D_REENTRANT > -MT timodules.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/timodules.Tpo -c > timodules.c -fno-common -DPIC -o .libs/timodules.o > timodules.c:24:17: io.h: No such file or directory timodules.c isn't built in the ProjectBuilder project for the lib, so the problem doesn't show. > The error is removed by adding " || > defined(__MACOSX__)" to the end of line 21. Can you > make that change, or do I need to submit a patch sumewhere? Send a patch on the list, it'll make its way to the repository. JB. -- Julien BLACHE <http://www.jblache.org> <jb...@jb...> |
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