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From: Romain <ti...@li...> - 2004-03-11 13:44:17
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Hello, finally, Brice Arnould will manage the web site. This involves: - re-design - udpates Well, The Tilp Team seems to be complete for now ! I'm evaluating migration from SF to Savannah. I decided that I will keep GTK for TiLP: an GTK+ theme with Win32 look&feel exists (gtk-wimp.sf.net). Qt is not available for free under=20 Win32 platforms. About tifs (Ti File System), FUSE seems to be better than LUFS (http://sourceforge.net/projects/avf). thx, roms. --- Romain Li=E9vin (roms) <ti...@li...> Site web <http://www.lievin.net> "Linux, y'a moins bien mais c'est plus cher !" |
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From: Romain <ti...@li...> - 2004-03-10 09:48:07
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Hi, >> One of the downsides of making a vfs is that your code isn't portable >> anymore. GNOME has it's own way, KDE, Windows, MacOS,... Of course mos= t >> of the functionality of TiLP is in its libraries, but it's still going >> to be a lot of work if you want to support all these platforms. It sur= e >> won't hurt to start with a gnomevfs and see how it works out though. > >Why not implement a native Linux filesystem? > >I'm dreaming of these shell commands :-) > >mount -t calcfs /dev/tiusb0 /mnt/ti89 >ls /mnt/ti89 > MY_PROGS/ > MAIN/ > PHOENIX/ This idea is quite interesting because it's widely independant of the desktop and may allow to use handhelds in pure console mode, too. Thus, I have done a research and I have found 2 ways: - kernel mode: kernel module which will use VFS kernel capabilities: too complex, never merged - user mode: a daemon which will pass requests to the vfs part of the kernel. A such project exists: lufs (Linux User File System) at http://lufs.sf.net. This project is living, growing and seems to work fine altough it's in beta stage. The main drawback: it is not merged yet in 2.4 or even 2.6 kernel. And, will it be ? I have not found any other way. Altough the idea is wonderful, it will involve to patch and rebuild a kernel. Too bad for a newbie ! roms. --- Romain Li=E9vin (roms) <ti...@li...> Site web <http://www.lievin.net> "Linux, y'a moins bien mais c'est plus cher !" |
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From: Romain <ti...@li...> - 2004-03-09 15:14:02
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Hello world ! well, TiLP development is restarting now ! I finished to install my machi= ne. According to the previous survey and your suggestions, I will propose the following guidelines: - rewrite the web site for a better readability and better use of SourceForge facilities - improve libticables (link cables, USB, module probing, ...); update doc - fix reported bugs in libtifiles & libticalcs; update doc - develop an engine which could be a background for TI file system and/or KDE/Gnome integration - set-up mime types and menus for both KDE & Gnome I will try and focus on QA and end-user usability. Thus, testing and support will be appreciated. At the time being, I don't know whether I will switch to Qt. Qt is now available for free under Win32 (Windows look&feel, fast, ...). John Spiegel: would you be interested in writing developer documentations about libs ? You may have to support the doc generating system, too (use the current one or choose another system such as DocBook, ...) Note: negociations are proceeding between TI Education France and I to ge= t some materials, specifications and maybe much more. roms. --- Romain Li=E9vin (roms) <ti...@li...> Site web <http://www.lievin.net> "Linux, y'a moins bien mais c'est plus cher !" |
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From: Romain <ti...@li...> - 2004-03-08 09:06:56
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Hi, Yeah, TiLP development is restarting ! But, I'm still searching for a web site designer (html and css or php). Skills: Linux, TI calcs, ... Given that I will just have time for programming, I need to delegate this= . roms. --- Romain Li=E9vin (roms) <ti...@li...> Site web <http://www.lievin.net> "Linux, y'a moins bien mais c'est plus cher !" |
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From: Romain <ro...@fr...> - 2004-03-01 12:20:25
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Hi Tijl & devels, > Hi devels, >=20 > Now that a couple bugs in FreeBSD's usb drivers have been fixed I > decided to try the usb cable again and with a small fix in libticables, > it seems to work now at least partially. That is, it seems to work with > the uhci type of controllers, but not with ohci. There are a couple mor= e > usb patches though, so maybe that'll be fixed soon. great ! >=20 > Anyway I'm happy I could finally see it working and I'll commit the > changes to libticables once I've cleaned up a few things. ok > Tijl PS: my gateway is now on (http://www.lievin.net) !=20 TiLP development will restart when my Linux box will be on, too... roms. --=20 Romain Lievin (aka 'roms') : ro...@li... Site web : http://www.lievin.net ICQ : 43585029 |
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From: Tijl C. <ti...@ul...> - 2004-02-29 16:07:24
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Hi devels, Now that a couple bugs in FreeBSD's usb drivers have been fixed I decided to try the usb cable again and with a small fix in libticables, it seems to work now at least partially. That is, it seems to work with the uhci type of controllers, but not with ohci. There are a couple more usb patches though, so maybe that'll be fixed soon. Anyway I'm happy I could finally see it working and I'll commit the changes to libticables once I've cleaned up a few things. Tijl |
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From: <pos...@sm...> - 2004-02-27 13:22:08
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From: Romain L. <rom...@wa...> - 2004-02-11 07:51:06
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Hi, > Another point, on CD3 of Mandrake 9.2 (download edition), we can find a r= pm > package named tilp-xxx.i586.rpm. Yeah, it's great :-)) I noticed TiLP is included in many other distros, too. Such as BearOs (comm= ercial) for instance. >=20 > Best regards, > Severin. >=20 roms. > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------- > The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 > Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration > See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anaheim, CA. > http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn > _______________________________________________ > TiLP-devel mailing list > TiL...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tilp-devel >=20 ---=20 Romain Li=E9vin =20 Site web =20 Messagerie instantan=E9e (ICQ) 43585029=20 "Linux, y'a moins bien mais c'est plus cher !" |
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From: Tijl C. <ti...@ul...> - 2004-02-10 20:12:17
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On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 16:13:08 +0100 (CET), Romain LIEVIN wrote: > - BSD port : Tijl Coosemans (nl) That should be "be" instead of "nl" :) |
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From: Julien B. <jb...@jb...> - 2004-02-10 19:17:10
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Romain LIEVIN <rom...@wa...> wrote: Hi, > - Mac OS port : Julien Blache (fr) > - Debian packager : Julien Blache (fr) I'm giving up on the Mac OS X port; I'm tired of Apple non-support for non-Apple applications, do not have access to the latest version of Mac OS X, and am no longer interested in Mac OS X. I'll still package TiLP for Debian, and I'll still be around to help where needed. As you wanted to move TiLP off of SF.net, we could maybe move it to alioth.debian.org, which is a sourceforge-derived hosting platform maintained by the Debian Project for our projects. We could use a SubVersion repository there, by the way. JB. -- UNDERWEAR SHOULD BE WORN ON THE INSIDE UNDERWEAR SHOULD BE WORN ON THE INSIDE UNDERWEAR SHOULD BE WORN ON THE INSIDE -+- Bart Simpson on chalkboard in episode 8F08 |
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From: Romain L. <rom...@wa...> - 2004-02-10 15:13:17
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Hi, according to current people and survey, I will propose the (new) following = team. But, I'm still searching for a guy which could manage the TiLP web site (ne= w design, keeping it up-to-date, ...). 1) Developers : - main : Romain Lievin (fr) - Mac OS port : Julien Blache (fr) - BSD port : Tijl Coosemans (nl) - Win32 port : open 2) Packagers : - RedHat packager : Ben Gordon (us) - Debian packager : Julien Blache (fr) - GenToo packager : Brent Redeker(us) 3) Documentation : - user's manual : John Spiegel (??) 4) Testing : - tester : Stephan Walter 5) Internationalization : - french i18n : Sylvain Garsault (fr) - english i18n : open - ... 6) Graphism/icons : Jesse Palmer (us) Comments, suggestions are welcome. 7) Web site: open roms. ---=20 Romain Li=E9vin =20 Site web =20 Messagerie instantan=E9e (ICQ) 43585029=20 "Linux, y'a moins bien mais c'est plus cher !" |
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From: Romain L. <rom...@wa...> - 2004-02-10 15:10:02
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Hi, I consider that survey is closed... I can see there are as many as Gnome users than KDE users. Most of people claimed better integration. I had this in mind for a long wh= ile but I never begun the work. The reason: 2 environments (KDE & Gnome). I= t's difficult to support both environment. Some companies (Novell) support = Gnome, some others support KDE. Personally, it's annoying ! I can understand you should have the choice but= a desktop user shouldn't have it. Sorry. I begun with KDE few years ago but it was too heavy. After, I switched to W= indowMaker with GTK apps. I never used Gnome. Now, Gnome is becoming slow a= nd KDE faster. Moreover, KDE has more and more apps. I'm preferring KDE and it may become my environment... I have chosen GTK because this toolkit was available to Windows for free. B= ut, there are no direct Mac support. KDE toolkit seem to be very powerful although it's use some specific extens= ions (moc). It's available for many platform but it was not free (except fo= r Linux) until now. In fact, I found this article on ./ (http://books.slashdot.org/books/04/01/= 28/1749200.shtml?tid=3D126&tid=3D156&tid=3D185&tid=3D188&tid=3D192) <<The book comes with a CD that contains non-commercial version of Qt 3.2 f= or Windows/Mac/Linux, >> It seems that a TiLP written in KDE will be portable and will have the righ= t look&feel. Moreover, GTK2 is very slow in a Win32 environment. As you may understand, I'm really considering this opportunity ! roms. ---=20 Romain Li=E9vin =20 Site web =20 Messagerie instantan=E9e (ICQ) 43585029=20 "Linux, y'a moins bien mais c'est plus cher !" |
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From: TROCHUT S. <sev...@cp...> - 2004-02-10 11:54:36
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Hi, 1°) Which is your primary OS ? secondary ? ... BeOS, Linux Mandrake 9.2 2°) Which calculator do you own ? Ti-85, Ti-92 3°) Which link cable do you have ? Home-made //, and home-made serial 4°) Which is your desktop (Gnome, KDE, ...) ? No Desktop, just Windowmaker. 5°) Will you be interested in a better integration with the desktop ? No. 6°) Will you be interested in TiLP development, support, help, testing, ... Still porting on BeOS. But for now, helping to redevelop BeOS. 7) Emulators would be nice suggestions are welcome ! I think that integrating TiLP into a desktop would kill the strength of TiLP. The application would not be portable anymore. LibTicables and LibTicalcs is TiLP. The rest is only a GUI thing. Besides, if you decide to integrate TiLP into the Gnome desktop, KDE users wil get frustrated and so on. Keeping TiLP structure as it is now, is according to me the best way for portability and reaching the maximum of users. Another point, on CD3 of Mandrake 9.2 (download edition), we can find a rpm package named tilp-xxx.i586.rpm. Best regards, Severin. ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. |
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From: <MAI...@pl...> - 2004-02-06 22:08:31
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From: John S. <mi...@ya...> - 2004-02-05 03:23:15
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Actually the source is available. I haven't packaged it up that professionally yet (no licenses or copyright is stated...) But I believe I will officially release it under GPL. Anywayz, it's a python app, so all the source is there. I wrote a Python module that wraps libticalcs for it. You might find that interesting. John --- Romain LIEVIN <rom...@wa...> wrote: > Hi, > > > Objet : [TiLP-users] TYSync - Synchronize > Organizer App with your PC > > http://biznaq.biz/ > > http://biznaq.biz/products/tisync.php > > http://biznaq.biz/products/screenshots.php > > > > Biznaq Software Group has finally made an alpha > > release of TISync for Linux. > > > > TISync transforms your Texas Instruments > calculator > > into a usable PDA. Last year, TI released the > > Organizer App for TI-89's TI-92+'s and Voyage > 200's, > > but there has been no way to synchronize Organizer > > with your PC. Until now. With TISync, you can > > effortlessly sync your data with Evolution. > > > > Hmmm, interesting... > What a pity ! No source code available. I would > loved to take a look at source code ;-)) > > > > > TISync is a cross-platform Python application to > > synchronize Organizer App (on TI calculators) with > > Evolution, iCal, and Outlook. Texas Instruments > has > > released a very nice PDA application for its > TI-89, > > TI-92+, and Voyage 200 calculators, but there has > been > > no way to keep it synchronized with you PC-based > PIM. > > Until now. > > > > TISync synchronizes contacts, tasks (todo items), > and > > events (appointments) flawlessly. Well, it works > > flawlessly most of the time. At least sometimes. > Hey, > > it's an alpha release. > > > > The Linux version has a command line interface and > a > > Gnome panel applet. Mac and Windows versions are > > coming soon. Give it a spin! > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. > Try it! > > http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 > > Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and > Integration > > See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 > in Anaheim, CA. > > http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn > > _______________________________________________ > > TiLP-users mailing list > > TiL...@li... > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tilp-users > > > > > > --- > Romain Liévin > Site web > Messagerie instantanée (ICQ) 43585029 > "Linux, y'a moins bien mais c'est plus cher !" > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 > Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and > Integration > See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in > Anaheim, CA. > http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn > _______________________________________________ > TiLP-users mailing list > TiL...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tilp-users __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html |
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From: Stephan W. <ste...@ep...> - 2004-02-04 15:57:17
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> > 1°) Which is your primary OS ? secondary ? ... Debian Linux, Windows XP > > 2°) Which calculator do you own ? TI-89 > > 3°) Which link cable do you have ? Home-made serial (which doesn't work with my usb->serial adapter!!!) > > 4°) Which is your desktop (Gnome, KDE, ...) ? No desktop, just Fluxbox as a windowmanager > > 5°) Will you be interested in a better integration with the desktop ? No > > 6°) Will you be interested in TiLP development, support, help, > > testing, ... ? If yes, please tell me which field. Please not that you > > must have a good availability. Testing, and maybe support/help. > > At last, I would like to know some of your prefs, what you would like > > to do or see... All suggestions are welcome ! Quoting Tijl Coosemans <ti...@ul...>: > One of the downsides of making a vfs is that your code isn't portable > anymore. GNOME has it's own way, KDE, Windows, MacOS,... Of course most > of the functionality of TiLP is in its libraries, but it's still going > to be a lot of work if you want to support all these platforms. It sure > won't hurt to start with a gnomevfs and see how it works out though. Why not implement a native Linux filesystem? I'm dreaming of these shell commands :-) mount -t calcfs /dev/tiusb0 /mnt/ti89 ls /mnt/ti89 MY_PROGS/ MAIN/ PHOENIX/ > Personally I'd also like to keep the windows support. TiLP is about the > only more or less complete link program. I do understand that windows > support (and other platforms too in fact) is quite a headache at the > moment with all those ifdefs. Maybe we could split up some files, > reorganize them... Maybe it would also be interesting to use wxWindows > instead of gtk+, so TiLP has the look and feel of the OS it is running > on. That would be something for a next major release though. I agree that wxwindows would be a good choice. Regards, Stephan |
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From: Romain L. <rom...@wa...> - 2004-02-04 14:40:44
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Hi, > Objet : [TiLP-users] TYSync - Synchronize Organizer App with your PC > http://biznaq.biz/ > http://biznaq.biz/products/tisync.php > http://biznaq.biz/products/screenshots.php >=20 > Biznaq Software Group has finally made an alpha > release of TISync for Linux. >=20 > TISync transforms your Texas Instruments calculator > into a usable PDA. Last year, TI released the > Organizer App for TI-89's TI-92+'s and Voyage 200's, > but there has been no way to synchronize Organizer > with your PC. Until now. With TISync, you can > effortlessly sync your data with Evolution. >=20 Hmmm, interesting... What a pity ! No source code available. I would loved to take a look at sou= rce code ;-)) >=20 > TISync is a cross-platform Python application to > synchronize Organizer App (on TI calculators) with > Evolution, iCal, and Outlook. Texas Instruments has > released a very nice PDA application for its TI-89, > TI-92+, and Voyage 200 calculators, but there has been > no way to keep it synchronized with you PC-based PIM. > Until now. >=20 > TISync synchronizes contacts, tasks (todo items), and > events (appointments) flawlessly. Well, it works > flawlessly most of the time. At least sometimes. Hey, > it's an alpha release. >=20 > The Linux version has a command line interface and a > Gnome panel applet. Mac and Windows versions are > coming soon. Give it a spin! >=20 > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! > http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------- > The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 > Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration > See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anaheim, CA. > http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn > _______________________________________________ > TiLP-users mailing list > TiL...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tilp-users >=20 ---=20 Romain Li=E9vin =20 Site web =20 Messagerie instantan=E9e (ICQ) 43585029=20 "Linux, y'a moins bien mais c'est plus cher !" |
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From: John S. <mi...@ya...> - 2004-02-04 13:58:25
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http://biznaq.biz/ http://biznaq.biz/products/tisync.php http://biznaq.biz/products/screenshots.php Biznaq Software Group has finally made an alpha release of TISync for Linux. TISync transforms your Texas Instruments calculator into a usable PDA. Last year, TI released the Organizer App for TI-89's TI-92+'s and Voyage 200's, but there has been no way to synchronize Organizer with your PC. Until now. With TISync, you can effortlessly sync your data with Evolution. TISync is a cross-platform Python application to synchronize Organizer App (on TI calculators) with Evolution, iCal, and Outlook. Texas Instruments has released a very nice PDA application for its TI-89, TI-92+, and Voyage 200 calculators, but there has been no way to keep it synchronized with you PC-based PIM. Until now. TISync synchronizes contacts, tasks (todo items), and events (appointments) flawlessly. Well, it works flawlessly most of the time. At least sometimes. Hey, it's an alpha release. The Linux version has a command line interface and a Gnome panel applet. Mac and Windows versions are coming soon. Give it a spin! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ |
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From: Sylvain G. <syl...@fr...> - 2004-01-31 20:29:44
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Le Jeudi 29 Janvier 2004 16:00, Romain LIEVIN a =E9crit : > Hi to all my users & developers ! > > > TiLP (and all others TI related software) development has been stopped for > 6 months now due to various reasons... But, I'm gonna to take over TiLP > development soon... > > Given that I'm not a student any more, I will have less time... Thus, I > will focus me on things are important and I will delegate some work (if > possible). Delegation may include: graphism, web site, documentation, > translators, developers, packaging. > > This is the reason why I'm writing this mail; it's a kind of survey/poll. > > > At first, I will stop every Win32 support. I will keep in mind Win32 > extensions or gateways for others developpers but there will not be new > code. > For now, it's Linux/U*IX only ! Win32 porters/developers are welcome... > > > Next, a simple poll: > > 1=B0) Which is your primary OS ? secondary ? ... Mandrake Linux 9.1 > 2=B0) Which calculator do you own ? Ti 83 > 3=B0) Which link cable do you have ? Home-made Parallel > 4=B0) Which is your desktop (Gnome, KDE, ...) ? KDE > 5=B0) Will you be interested in a better integration with the desktop ? Oh yes please, a better integration in KDE and Konqueror would be great ! > 6=B0) Will you be interested in TiLP development, support, help, testing,= ... Translating in french, as usual. > ? If yes, please tell me which field. Please not that you must have a good > availability. 7=B0) What software would you like to get (emulator, editor= s, > ...) ? > > > At last, I would like to know some of your prefs, what you would like > to do or see... All suggestions are welcome ! I'm dreaming of a QT GUI for TiLP, with nice KDE widgets... and also of a=20 "send-to-calc" menu in Konqueror, with automounting, etc. To finish with, i= t=20 would be nice to supply the package with a little init script launching tip= ar=20 module at boot time for example. > > Please reply on the 2 mailing-lists. > > > Regards, Romain. > --- > Romain Li=E9vin > Site web > Messagerie instantan=E9e (ICQ) 43585029 > "Linux, y'a moins bien mais c'est plus cher !" > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 > Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration > See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anaheim, CA. > http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn > _______________________________________________ > TiLP-devel mailing list > TiL...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tilp-devel |
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From: Kevin M. <kev...@ri...> - 2004-01-31 15:28:52
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Romain LIEVIN wrote: > Hi to all my users & developers ! > > > TiLP (and all others TI related software) development has been stopped for 6 months now > due to various reasons... But, I'm gonna to take over TiLP development soon... > > Given that I'm not a student any more, I will have less time... Thus, I will focus me > on things are important and I will delegate some work (if possible). > Delegation may include: graphism, web site, documentation, translators, developers, > packaging. > > This is the reason why I'm writing this mail; it's a kind of survey/poll. > > > At first, I will stop every Win32 support. I will keep in mind Win32 extensions or > gateways for others developpers but there will not be new code. > For now, it's Linux/U*IX only ! Win32 porters/developers are welcome... > > > Next, a simple poll: > > 1°) Which is your primary OS ? secondary ? ... > 2°) Which calculator do you own ? > 3°) Which link cable do you have ? > 4°) Which is your desktop (Gnome, KDE, ...) ? > 5°) Will you be interested in a better integration with the desktop ? > 6°) Will you be interested in TiLP development, support, help, testing, ... ? > If yes, please tell me which field. Please not that you must have a good availability. > 7°) What software would you like to get (emulator, editors, ...) ? > > > At last, I would like to know some of your prefs, what you would like > to do or see... All suggestions are welcome ! > > Please reply on the 2 mailing-lists. > > > Regards, Romain. > --- > Romain Liévin > Site web > Messagerie instantanée (ICQ) 43585029 > "Linux, y'a moins bien mais c'est plus cher !" > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 > Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration > See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anaheim, CA. > http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn > _______________________________________________ > TiLP-users mailing list > TiL...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tilp-users > 1 primary/secondary OS -- Mandrake Linux / Win98 2 calculator -- TI-82, TI-83 Plus 3 link cable -- use gray, have black 4 desktop -- gnome, xfce, kde 5 integration with the desktop -- just good menu access 6 TiLP development -- sorry, just a user 7 software -- usability improvements, editor, emulator IMHO, documentation for new users, with examples of common operations is the most overlooked item in software. After the difficulty of writing working code, it is understandable that developers don't want to undertake the difficulty of writing good documentation. I think it is difficult to do, but experience shows that users will stick with whatever they first learn (and they are so easily confused). I think the cables need better explanations, since many new users don't even know what they are. Thanks for a nice program. |
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From: Tijl C. <ti...@ul...> - 2004-01-31 12:37:38
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On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 17:00:54 +0100 (CET), Romain LIEVIN wrote: > 1=B0) Which is your primary OS ? secondary ? ... FreeBSD 4.9, Win98SE, (Win2k) > 2=B0) Which calculator do you own ? TI83+, TI83+SE, TI89 > 3=B0) Which link cable do you have ? Grey serial, Black serial, USB. > 4=B0) Which is your desktop (Gnome, KDE, ...) ? XFCE, KDE > 5=B0) Will you be interested in a better integration with the desktop ? Sure. > 6=B0) Will you be interested in TiLP development, support, help, > testing, ... ? If yes, please tell me which field. Please not that you > must have a good availability. I'll maintain the FreeBSD port, and do some development once in a while. I can't assure good availability though. > At last, I would like to know some of your prefs, what you would like > to do or see... All suggestions are welcome ! One of the downsides of making a vfs is that your code isn't portable anymore. GNOME has it's own way, KDE, Windows, MacOS,... Of course most of the functionality of TiLP is in its libraries, but it's still going to be a lot of work if you want to support all these platforms. It sure won't hurt to start with a gnomevfs and see how it works out though. Maybe it would also be interesting to know how the 84+ and 89ti will be implemented in the os as they themself seem to be the usb device and not the cable. Personally I'd also like to keep the windows support. TiLP is about the only more or less complete link program. I do understand that windows support (and other platforms too in fact) is quite a headache at the moment with all those ifdefs. Maybe we could split up some files, reorganize them... Maybe it would also be interesting to use wxWindows instead of gtk+, so TiLP has the look and feel of the OS it is running on. That would be something for a next major release though. |
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From: Devin B. <dj...@el...> - 2004-01-30 23:25:09
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On Thursday, Jan 29, 2004, at 11:00 US/Eastern, Romain LIEVIN wrote: > 1=B0) Which is your primary OS ? secondary ? ... Mac OS X 10.3 > 2=B0) Which calculator do you own ? TI-89 > 3=B0) Which link cable do you have ? Silverlink USB > 4=B0) Which is your desktop (Gnome, KDE, ...) ? Mac OS X > 5=B0) Will you be interested in a better integration with the desktop = ? No. > 6=B0) Will you be interested in TiLP development, support, help,=20 > testing, ... ? > If yes, please tell me which field. Please not that you must have a=20 > good availability. No. > 7=B0) What software would you like to get (emulator, editors, ...) ? Just a simple and properly functioning TiLP. -- Devin Bayer <http://elektrono.com> |
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From: John S. <mi...@ya...> - 2004-01-30 21:11:04
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I believe there are two simple things that could make the tilp project light-years more useful. The first is Gnome-VFS integration. Tilp is a nice little app, but accessing the calculator just like any other device (digital camera/usb keydrive/pda/etc) is a much more robust, useful, and versatile solution. This shouldn't be that hard to do, and I've had half a mind to do it on several occasions. The second is to flush out the bugs with the silverlink cable. Right now, I can use it "pretty well" with the kernel driver. It always needs to be unplugged and replugged if you ever enter the var-link screen (on 89/92/v200). So it seems it needs to be reset or something. The libusb driver is horribly flaky. Nearly all new users will have SilverLinks, so we /need/ to support these 100%. Two other (not as important) things tilp needs are better (updated) developer documentation and enabling deleting variables. The dev docs are good where they are consistent with the api. However, much of the documenation is outdated and much new functionality seems to be totally undocumented. This is from personal experience of trying to use libti* over the last semester. Deleting variables will really enhance the usefulness of a gnome-vfs module. 1) I use Gentoo Linux. 2) I have a Voyage 200 3) I have a silverlink 4) I use Gnome 5) Yes.. desktop integration is a good thing (see abover blurb on gnome-vfs) 6) I am definitely interested in some development. Also maybe updating documentation. 7) Other software.... Rather than coming up with separate editors and such, I believe it would be good to go the route of better desktop integration (gnome-vfs). Allow program/text editing with any text editor. John __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ |
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