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From: Tobias <tob...@gm...> - 2004-02-25 01:56:04
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Am Di, den 24.02.2004 schrieb Chris Spencer um 20:42: > I am on a list with a number of these types to...if you want me to > solicit a little. > > -Chris Now that's a word, I count on you. ;) Greetz... Tobias Gläßer |
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From: Chris S. <csp...@ca...> - 2004-02-25 01:51:34
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I am on a list with a number of these types to...if you want me to solicit a little. -Chris On Tue, 2004-02-24 at 19:30, Bill Kendrick wrote: > On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 02:30:42AM -0500, Tobias Gl=C3=A4=C3=9Fer wrote: > > People arleady use this song, because they get it from a free (as in fr= ee beer) > > web archieve. If we aren't allowed to distribute it, then this archieve= isn't either. > > The only difference is that we would put it under the terms of the GPL.= hmm > > But it's possible that we can't use this song anyway, because SDL_mixer= segfaults > > on it. :( >=20 > BTW, I know some MOD artists who have done GPL'd stuff for me, or allowed= me > to GPL their work, in the past. Nutcase (Sami I Saarnio) and=20 > Roz (Jarkko Rotsten). >=20 > I emailed Roz recently, and unfortunately, he's been too busy to made any > new MODs for games, though. :^( >=20 > -bill! >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF.Net is sponsored by: Speed Start Your Linux Apps Now. > Build and deploy apps & Web services for Linux with > a free DVD software kit from IBM. Click Now! > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1356&alloc_id438&op=3Dclick > _______________________________________________ > Super-tux-devel mailing list > Sup...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/super-tux-devel >=20 |
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From: Bill K. <nb...@so...> - 2004-02-25 01:39:00
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On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 02:30:42AM -0500, Tobias Gl=E4=DFer wrote: > People arleady use this song, because they get it from a free (as in fr= ee beer) > web archieve. If we aren't allowed to distribute it, then this archieve= isn't either. > The only difference is that we would put it under the terms of the GPL.= hmm > But it's possible that we can't use this song anyway, because SDL_mixer= segfaults > on it. :( BTW, I know some MOD artists who have done GPL'd stuff for me, or allowed= me to GPL their work, in the past. Nutcase (Sami I Saarnio) and=20 Roz (Jarkko Rotsten). I emailed Roz recently, and unfortunately, he's been too busy to made any new MODs for games, though. :^( -bill! |
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From: Bill K. <nb...@so...> - 2004-02-25 01:37:31
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On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 02:30:42AM -0500, Tobias Gl=E4=DFer wrote: > People arleady use this song, because they get it from a free (as in fr= ee > beer) web archieve. If we aren't allowed to distribute it, then this > archieve isn't either. The only difference is that we would put it unde= r > the terms of the GPL. Which is DIFFERENT than just "free as in beer!" For example, when I made Tux Paint, I could not use just any TrueType Fon= ts, because 99.9999% of them have very restrictive licenses regarding redistribution. We cannot /assume/ we can take something and make it Free (as in speech) without permission! -bill! |
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From: Tobias <tob...@gm...> - 2004-02-25 01:34:07
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Am Di, den 24.02.2004 schrieb Bill Kendrick um 20:15: > On Tue, Feb 24, 2004 at 01:15:37PM -0500, Tobias Gläßer wrote: > > As far as I can see the song has no coypright (I checked it with > > Soundtracker and a hexeditor ;)). Let's put it under the GPL. > > If someone comes up and claimes he has the rights for it, we can > > drop the song anyway and find a better one. > > Uh... and then how do you force everyone ELSE who has decided to use > the song, since we claimed it is GPL, to stop using it!!! >:^( > > -bill! People arleady use this song, because they get it from a free (as in free beer) web archieve. If we aren't allowed to distribute it, then this archieve isn't either. The only difference is that we would put it under the terms of the GPL. hmm But it's possible that we can't use this song anyway, because SDL_mixer segfaults on it. :( Greetz... Tobias Gläßer |
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From: Bill K. <nb...@so...> - 2004-02-25 01:23:56
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On Tue, Feb 24, 2004 at 01:15:37PM -0500, Tobias Gl=E4=DFer wrote: > As far as I can see the song has no coypright (I checked it with > Soundtracker and a hexeditor ;)). Let's put it under the GPL. > If someone comes up and claimes he has the rights for it, we can > drop the song anyway and find a better one. Uh... and then how do you force everyone ELSE who has decided to use the song, since we claimed it is GPL, to stop using it!!! >:^( -bill! |
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From: Ingo R. <gr...@gm...> - 2004-02-24 16:45:44
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Ingo Ruhnke <gr...@gm...> writes: > IRC user already know this pic, so just a little re-post for the > ML-only readers: http://pingus.seul.org/~grumbel/tmp/supertux-gamescreen.jpg -- WWW: http://pingus.seul.org/~grumbel/ JabberID: gr...@ja... ICQ: 59461927 |
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From: Tobias <tob...@gm...> - 2004-02-24 12:35:15
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Am Di, den 24.02.2004 schrieb Duong-Khang NGUYEN um 05:42: > Hi, > > Here is the URL where I downloaded it: > > http://www.modarchive.com/L/index8.shtml > > And here is the review of the song. Hmm, I didn't even notice that It has > "only" 6.0 for the rating. I've searched for songs above 8.0 :D > > http://www.modarchive.com/reviews/loser.xm.rev.html :( Hi, when trying to use the new song in SuperTux the SDL_mixer segfaults. Did you get it working? Greetz... Tobias Gläßer -- |
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From: Tobias <tob...@gm...> - 2004-02-24 12:18:44
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Am Di, den 24.02.2004 schrieb Duong-Khang NGUYEN um 05:42: > Hi, > > Here is the URL where I downloaded it: > > http://www.modarchive.com/L/index8.shtml Ahh, it's perfect. :) > And here is the review of the song. Hmm, I didn't even notice that It has > "only" 6.0 for the rating. I've searched for songs above 8.0 :D > > http://www.modarchive.com/reviews/loser.xm.rev.html As far as I can see the song has no coypright (I checked it with Soundtracker and a hexeditor ;)). Let's put it under the GPL. If someone comes up and claimes he has the rights for it, we can drop the song anyway and find a better one. But I think even in this case the most authors would be satisfied, when they are mentioned in the credits. Greetz... Tobias Gläßer -- |
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From: Duong-Khang N. <neo...@us...> - 2004-02-24 10:46:57
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Hi, Here is the URL where I downloaded it: http://www.modarchive.com/L/index8.shtml And here is the review of the song. Hmm, I didn't even notice that It has "only" 6.0 for the rating. I've searched for songs above 8.0 :D http://www.modarchive.com/reviews/loser.xm.rev.html -- Never say if I could turn back the time, life is going on ! |
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From: Chris S. <csp...@ca...> - 2004-02-23 20:28:34
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> "Public Domain" is odd. I think that things are only PD if the person > PUT them into the PD. You are correct. It would require giving permission intentionally or copyright protection to expire. I think that's now set as life + 75 years or something insane though. Back to my post yesterday...I think the song was part of Tux Racer originally. If that's the case then it's most likely under the GPL. -Chris |
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From: Bill K. <nb...@so...> - 2004-02-23 19:50:17
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On Mon, Feb 23, 2004 at 02:46:43PM -0500, Tobias Gl=E4=DFer wrote: > Hmm, could you point us to the location of this file. I have problems t= o > find it. :( > When this song has no copyright, shouldn't it be public domain then? "Public Domain" is odd. I think that things are only PD if the person PUT them into the PD. -bill! |
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From: Tobias <tob...@gm...> - 2004-02-23 13:49:23
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Am Mo, den 23.02.2004 schrieb Duong-Khang NGUYEN um 06:01: > Hi, > > The song "loser.xm" was downloaded from http://www.modarchive.com as I > announced during the IRC meeting. This site let ppl download songs freely. Hmm, could you point us to the location of this file. I have problems to find it. :( When this song has no copyright, shouldn't it be public domain then? Greetz... Tobias Gläßer |
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From: Duong-Khang N. <neo...@us...> - 2004-02-23 13:18:41
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Hi,
The song "loser.xm" was downloaded from http://www.modarchive.com as I
announced during the IRC meeting. This site let ppl download songs freely.
However, few of them are copyrighted by the artists who created them.
Concerning "loser.xm", I couldn't find any copyright or author's informations
about it. I think that we can use it without problems in SuperTux.
I'm sorry but I'm not a music composer :D You Bill, should grab some real
artists for us ;)
--
Never say if I could turn back the time,
life is going on !
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From: Tobias <tob...@gm...> - 2004-02-23 01:27:14
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Am Do, den 19.02.2004 schrieb ri...@ae... um 11:50: > Hey there, > > These are some hack that I was working on... I've merged them and > here they go. > > icon-xpm.patch (and icon.xpm) > Currently SuperTux uses the png format for the icon. PNG is a > non-native X11 format and so needs a mask to be made. XPM is much > more flexible for artists, allowing transparencies to be easily made > without having to make a mask. Use the icon, I appended or just > convert the current one to xpm. > This also makes seticon() to be called before the text load that > takes awhile. Would the icon still work on non X11 platforms? MacOSX for example? Greetz... Tobias Gläßer |
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From: Chris S. <csp...@ca...> - 2004-02-22 21:12:35
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Isn't that originally from tux racer? As long as it is taken from the original one it should be under the GPL. -Chris On Sun, 2004-02-22 at 06:16, Bill Kendrick wrote: > On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 11:16:30AM +0100, Duong-Khang NGUYEN wrote: > > Hi ppl, > > > > I've just selected one among hundreds of mods the "herring_song". Everyone is > > invited to preview it (loser.xm). The volumes of other "level_song" are > > ajusted to the new possible "herring_song" candidate. > > What is the source and copyright on the song, out of curiosity? > We need either something we can just freely use in a GPL game, or > the permission of the author to use it... > > Thx! > > -bill! > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF.Net is sponsored by: Speed Start Your Linux Apps Now. > Build and deploy apps & Web services for Linux with > a free DVD software kit from IBM. Click Now! > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1356&alloc_id=3438&op=click > _______________________________________________ > Super-tux-devel mailing list > Sup...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/super-tux-devel > |
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From: Ricardo C. <ri...@ae...> - 2004-02-22 19:50:23
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Hey there, As Tobias requested, here it goes, a patch to make the current cursor mode and the selection one co-exiting. Press F3 to change between them. Ricardo Cruz -- God is really only another artist. He invented the giraffe, the elephant and the cat. He has no real style, He just goes on trying other things. -- Pablo Picasso |
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From: Bill K. <nb...@so...> - 2004-02-22 12:24:10
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On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 11:16:30AM +0100, Duong-Khang NGUYEN wrote: > Hi ppl, > > I've just selected one among hundreds of mods the "herring_song". Everyone is > invited to preview it (loser.xm). The volumes of other "level_song" are > ajusted to the new possible "herring_song" candidate. What is the source and copyright on the song, out of curiosity? We need either something we can just freely use in a GPL game, or the permission of the author to use it... Thx! -bill! |
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From: Duong-Khang N. <neo...@us...> - 2004-02-22 10:19:58
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Hi ppl, I've just selected one among hundreds of mods the "herring_song". Everyone is invited to preview it (loser.xm). The volumes of other "level_song" are ajusted to the new possible "herring_song" candidate. Cya -- Never say if I could turn back the time, life is going on ! |
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From: Hernani M. M. <he...@tu...> - 2004-02-22 00:37:13
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On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 00:08:26 +0000 Ricardo Cruz <ri...@ae...> wrote: > Hi, Hello > Anyway, in the following 0.0.6 release, you can easily define your > keys in the players.c file. Ah, it's there now, kewl. Thanks. I hadn't got the -current cvs release when I wrote the initial mail, SRY. |
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From: Ricardo C. <ri...@ae...> - 2004-02-22 00:22:17
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Hi,
Anyway, in the following 0.0.6 release, you can easily define your keys in=
=20
the players.c file.
Ricardo
Em S=E1bado, 21 de Fevereiro de 2004 22:31, o Hernani Marques Madeira escre=
veu:
> Hello @ all.
>
> Are there any objections against including the following key combinations
> to control the game (as they are implemented in snes9x):
>
> <GAMELOOP>
> --- gameloop.c.orig 2004-02-21 22:51:50.000000000 +0100
> +++ gameloop.c 2004-02-21 23:19:25.000000000 +0100
> @@ -176,7 +176,7 @@
>
> key =3D event.key.keysym.sym;
>
> - if (key =3D=3D SDLK_ESCAPE)
> + if (key =3D=3D SDLK_ESCAPE || key =3D=3D SDLK_q)
> {
> /* Escape: Open/Close the menu: */
> if(!game_pause)
> @@ -187,23 +187,23 @@
> show_menu =3D 1;
> }
> }
> - else if (key =3D=3D SDLK_RIGHT)
> + else if (key =3D=3D SDLK_RIGHT || key =3D=3D SDLK_k)
> {
> right =3D DOWN;
> }
> - else if (key =3D=3D SDLK_LEFT)
> + else if (key =3D=3D SDLK_LEFT || key =3D=3D SDLK_h)
> {
> left =3D DOWN;
> }
> - else if (key =3D=3D SDLK_UP)
> + else if (key =3D=3D SDLK_UP || key =3D=3D SDLK_c)
> {
> up =3D DOWN;
> }
> - else if (key =3D=3D SDLK_DOWN)
> + else if (key =3D=3D SDLK_DOWN || key =3D=3D SDLK_j)
> {
> down =3D DOWN;
> }
> - else if (key =3D=3D SDLK_LCTRL)
> + else if (key =3D=3D SDLK_LCTRL || key =3D=3D SDLK_e)
> {
> fire =3D DOWN;
> }
> @@ -218,23 +218,23 @@
> if(show_menu)
> menu_event(key);
>
> - if (key =3D=3D SDLK_RIGHT)
> + if (key =3D=3D SDLK_RIGHT || key =3D=3D SDLK_k)
> {
> right =3D UP;
> }
> - else if (key =3D=3D SDLK_LEFT)
> + else if (key =3D=3D SDLK_LEFT || key =3D=3D SDLK_h)
> {
> left =3D UP;
> }
> - else if (key =3D=3D SDLK_UP)
> + else if (key =3D=3D SDLK_UP || key =3D=3D SDLK_c)
> {
> up =3D UP;
> }
> - else if (key =3D=3D SDLK_DOWN)
> + else if (key =3D=3D SDLK_DOWN || key =3D=3D SDLK_j)
> {
> down =3D UP;
> }
> - else if (key =3D=3D SDLK_LCTRL)
> + else if (key =3D=3D SDLK_LCTRL || key =3D=3D SDLK_e)
> {
> fire =3D UP;
> }
> @@ -286,7 +286,7 @@
> /* Handle joystick for the menu */
> if(show_menu)
> {
> - if(down =3D=3D DOWN)
> + if(down =3D=3D DOWN)
> menuaction =3D MN_DOWN;
> else
> menuaction =3D MN_UP;
> @@ -2330,7 +2330,6 @@
>
>
> /* Load data file: */
> -
> filename =3D (char *) malloc(sizeof(char) * (strlen(DATA_PREFIX) + 20)=
);
> sprintf(filename, "%s/levels/level%d.dat", DATA_PREFIX, level);
> fi =3D fopen(filename, "r");
> </GAMELOOP>
>
> --
>
> <MENU>
> --- menu.c.orig 2004-02-21 22:51:57.000000000 +0100
> +++ menu.c 2004-02-21 22:50:58.000000000 +0100
> @@ -219,21 +219,21 @@
> {
>
>
> - if (key =3D=3D SDLK_UP)
> + if (key =3D=3D SDLK_UP || key =3D=3D SDLK_u)
> {
> /* Menu Up */
>
> menuaction =3D MN_UP;
> menu_change =3D YES;
> }
> - else if (key =3D=3D SDLK_DOWN)
> + else if (key =3D=3D SDLK_DOWN || key =3D=3D SDLK_j)
> {
> /* Menu Down */
>
> menuaction =3D MN_DOWN;
> menu_change =3D YES;
> }
> - else if (key =3D=3D SDLK_SPACE || key =3D=3D SDLK_RETURN)
> + else if (key =3D=3D SDLK_SPACE || key =3D=3D SDLK_RETURN || key =3D=3D=
SDLK_c)
> {
> /* Menu Hit */
> </MENU>
>
> Alternatively -- with low priority -- a menu item giving one the option to
> define custom key combinations _could_ make this depreciated. Nevertheless
> I think that having an additional standard set defined that 10 finger
> gamers could use is not the baddest idea ;).
>
> Hernani
>
>
>
>
>
>
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=2D-=20
Do you have lysdexia?
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From: Hernani M. M. <he...@tu...> - 2004-02-22 00:17:36
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On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 01:05:44 +0100 Hernani Marques Madeira <he...@tu...> wrote: > As solution to fix this you've to provide a " " instead of the " " s/ / / # *argh*, it's late here ;) |
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From: Hernani M. M. <he...@tu...> - 2004-02-22 00:12:51
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Hello @ all http://super-tux.sourceforge.net/development/index.html looks like following -- on the actual Konqueror -stable release (v3.2): http://www.vecirex.net/supertux-website.png -- As solution to fix this you've to provide a " " instead of the " " between the "Milestone" and "1". HTML and their interpreters: *argh*. -- However, this section seems removed on your -current cvs release. -- Greets Hernani |
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From: Hernani M. M. <he...@tu...> - 2004-02-21 22:58:53
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On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 23:49:47 -0500 Tobias Gl=E4=DFer <tob...@gm...> wrote: > Hi Hernani, Hello > for 0.0.6 alternative keys(keymaps) aren't planned. > This will be faced in 0.0.7 development however. ;) Oki doki. |
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From: Tobias <tob...@gm...> - 2004-02-21 22:51:34
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Hi Hernani,
for 0.0.6 alternative keys(keymaps) aren't planned.
This will be faced in 0.0.7 development however. ;)
Greetz...
Tobias Gläßer
Am Sa, den 21.02.2004 schrieb Hernani Marques Madeira um 17:31:
> Hello @ all.
>
> Are there any objections against including the following key combinations
> to control the game (as they are implemented in snes9x):
>
> <GAMELOOP>
> --- gameloop.c.orig 2004-02-21 22:51:50.000000000 +0100
> +++ gameloop.c 2004-02-21 23:19:25.000000000 +0100
> @@ -176,7 +176,7 @@
>
> key = event.key.keysym.sym;
>
> - if (key == SDLK_ESCAPE)
> + if (key == SDLK_ESCAPE || key == SDLK_q)
> {
> /* Escape: Open/Close the menu: */
> if(!game_pause)
> @@ -187,23 +187,23 @@
> show_menu = 1;
> }
> }
> - else if (key == SDLK_RIGHT)
> + else if (key == SDLK_RIGHT || key == SDLK_k)
> {
> right = DOWN;
> }
> - else if (key == SDLK_LEFT)
> + else if (key == SDLK_LEFT || key == SDLK_h)
> {
> left = DOWN;
> }
> - else if (key == SDLK_UP)
> + else if (key == SDLK_UP || key == SDLK_c)
> {
> up = DOWN;
> }
> - else if (key == SDLK_DOWN)
> + else if (key == SDLK_DOWN || key == SDLK_j)
> {
> down = DOWN;
> }
> - else if (key == SDLK_LCTRL)
> + else if (key == SDLK_LCTRL || key == SDLK_e)
> {
> fire = DOWN;
> }
> @@ -218,23 +218,23 @@
> if(show_menu)
> menu_event(key);
>
> - if (key == SDLK_RIGHT)
> + if (key == SDLK_RIGHT || key == SDLK_k)
> {
> right = UP;
> }
> - else if (key == SDLK_LEFT)
> + else if (key == SDLK_LEFT || key == SDLK_h)
> {
> left = UP;
> }
> - else if (key == SDLK_UP)
> + else if (key == SDLK_UP || key == SDLK_c)
> {
> up = UP;
> }
> - else if (key == SDLK_DOWN)
> + else if (key == SDLK_DOWN || key == SDLK_j)
> {
> down = UP;
> }
> - else if (key == SDLK_LCTRL)
> + else if (key == SDLK_LCTRL || key == SDLK_e)
> {
> fire = UP;
> }
> @@ -286,7 +286,7 @@
> /* Handle joystick for the menu */
> if(show_menu)
> {
> - if(down == DOWN)
> + if(down == DOWN)
> menuaction = MN_DOWN;
> else
> menuaction = MN_UP;
> @@ -2330,7 +2330,6 @@
>
>
> /* Load data file: */
> -
> filename = (char *) malloc(sizeof(char) * (strlen(DATA_PREFIX) + 20));
> sprintf(filename, "%s/levels/level%d.dat", DATA_PREFIX, level);
> fi = fopen(filename, "r");
> </GAMELOOP>
>
> --
>
> <MENU>
> --- menu.c.orig 2004-02-21 22:51:57.000000000 +0100
> +++ menu.c 2004-02-21 22:50:58.000000000 +0100
> @@ -219,21 +219,21 @@
> {
>
>
> - if (key == SDLK_UP)
> + if (key == SDLK_UP || key == SDLK_u)
> {
> /* Menu Up */
>
> menuaction = MN_UP;
> menu_change = YES;
> }
> - else if (key == SDLK_DOWN)
> + else if (key == SDLK_DOWN || key == SDLK_j)
> {
> /* Menu Down */
>
> menuaction = MN_DOWN;
> menu_change = YES;
> }
> - else if (key == SDLK_SPACE || key == SDLK_RETURN)
> + else if (key == SDLK_SPACE || key == SDLK_RETURN || key == SDLK_c)
> {
> /* Menu Hit */
> </MENU>
>
> Alternatively -- with low priority -- a menu item giving one the option to define
> custom key combinations _could_ make this depreciated. Nevertheless I think that
> having an additional standard set defined that 10 finger gamers could use
> is not the baddest idea ;).
>
> Hernani
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