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From: Marc G. F. <sc...@hu...> - 2011-02-09 02:06:58
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In order to get things moving forwarded, and based on what Rob stated in
his email, here is the direction I'm proposing for those wishing to move
forward ...
I have registered slashtng.{org,net,info,com,biz} so that there is little
risk of someone else coming along and confusing things.
I'm setting up a virtual machine (I own my own hosting company) for
slashtng.org that will have:
SlashCode for announcements / portal
MediaWiki for Documentation
phpBB3 for User Forums
Majordomo2 for mailing list discussions
Shane has set up the code on github, and, hopefully, will act as "the
maintainer", since he obviously knows something about Git ...
I believe George's goal is improving documentation, especially as far as
installations are concerned ...
My goals are a bit more far-reaching ... getting SlashTNG to support
PostgreSQL for a backend (15 years with postgreSQL makes me kinda biased
on useful backends), as well as modernizing the code (ie. Apache 2.2 vs
1.x, newer perl modules, etc) ...
My experiences with OSS tend to be that you can either spend weeks
discussing things until everyone gets bored and on ... or you can "just do
it" ...
Personally ... "just do it" tends to get things moving faster ...
Any objections, speak up ... I'm just trying to push from a "what a cool
idea" to "let's get working" ...
----
Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A.
sc...@hu... http://www.hub.org
Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:sc...@hu...
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From: Rob M. <ma...@sl...> - 2011-02-08 21:58:15
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First, let me state that I originated Slashcode and Slashdot. I also managed our engineering team for a decade or so. These days I run the editorial group, which is already which doesn't write code of any type ;) So while I have meetings with people who are responsible for these things, they don't report to me and I can't boss them around. I think it probably would be better if a new name was picked that implied legacy. I believe (although I could be wrong on this) that trademarks might have actually been made at some point in the lifespan of the project. I could be wrong, but I'd rather not have any complication or confusion on anyone's part. I'd love to see you guys do something great. For Slashdot anyway, releasing the code was always a cool side project, but we never got contributions back enough to justify the engineering man hours we put into the public releases. From a journalism & freedom of information perspective, I loved seeing sites based on our system pop up. But you can't put that into a budget... If the fork managed to produce useful patches, that might convince people to get a new version on our end out so we could get exciting new awesome features on Slashdot too. But I suspect it would take some significant stuff to make that something that would be seriously considered. On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 4:17 PM, Alexandre Leroux <ale...@ec...> wrote: > > I think the point is instead of 'forking and renaming' slashcode, would > be to just update slashcode and continue to use its name. If former > developers agrees of course (why wouldn't they?). > > good luck - > > Alex > -- > Alexandre Leroux, M.Sc., ing. > Section de la réponse aux urgences environnementales / > Environmental Emergency Response Section > Centre météorologique canadien / Canadian Meteorological Centre > Environnement Canada / Environment Canada > ale...@ec... - (514) 421-5024 > > > On 02/08/11 16:13, Marc G. Fournier wrote: >> But, that is what we are doing ... forking hte project, and workingot >> re-vitalize it ... once we get the initial infrastructure in place, we'll >> do an announce to this list, and make a request to Jamie et al to put >> something on the main page of the slashcode web site pointing ppl to the >> new site ... >> >> On Tue, 8 Feb 2011, George Taft wrote: >> >>> Well, after sleeping on it, I have a new thought. >>> >>> To date, "Slash" has been the Software. "Slashcode" has been the >>> "Slash Open Source Project," as the site at slashcode.com calls >>> itself. >>> >>> The Software, those of us still here agree, has utility and is worth >>> continuing to develop. But users have almost all drifted away because >>> the Project has suffered from a profound lack of attention. That would >>> be because those of us still here all but do not include the Slashdot >>> team, who greatly reduced their priority to the Project in favor of >>> Slashdot itself. >>> >>> I notice that Chris Nandor, the last person to post an article at >>> slashcode.com, <a >>> href="http://use.perl.org/~pudge/journal/40493">stopped working for >>> Slashdot/GeekNet as of 2010Q4.</a> He put the use.perl.org site on >>> hiatus before he quit. I'm betting that he no longer considers >>> Slashcode a priority, either. Jamie McCarthy, the second-to-last to >>> post an article, works for GeekNet but not Slashdot. (Jamie has >>> contacted us with words of encouragement.) >>> >>> All this begs the question: why have we not asked the Slashdot team if >>> they wouldn't mind if someone else took over altogether the "Slash >>> Open Source Project" that is slashcode.com? >>> >>> == George >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Marc G. Fournier <sc...@hu...> wrote: >>>> On Tue, 8 Feb 2011, Andre-John Mas wrote: >>>> >>>>> Or a small variation: >>>>> >>>>> SlashCode-NG >>>> I could go for that one ... any nay's on that? >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 8-Feb-2011, at 10:07, Marc G. Fournier wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Cute :) >>>>>> >>>>>> None of them *really* ring though, now do they? :) >>>>>> >>>>>> Just so that we don't get hung up on a name and never actually move >>>>>> forward with the critical stuff, u nless anyone has something that >>>>>> *rings* >>>>>> to put forward, does anyone have any disagreements with just going with: >>>>>> >>>>>> SlashTNG >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, 7 Feb 2011, George Taft wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Oh, I love this thread. I like Backslash and Solidus. I came up with: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Slashback >>>>>>> Slasher >>>>>>> Slashout >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Slapdash >>>>>>> StrikeThat >>>>>>> >>>>>>> SlashAndBurn >>>>>>> SlashAndCarry >>>>>>> SlashCut >>>>>>> SlashedPotatoes >>>>>>> SlashinthePan >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Things that slash: >>>>>>> -- pirates; swashbucklers >>>>>>> -- a spare in bowling >>>>>>> -- a slash is a stroke; stricken; struck >>>>>>> >>>>>>> == George >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 6:34 PM, Marc G. Fournier <sc...@hu...> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> As far as domains are concerned, both are already taken ... :( >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, 7 Feb 2011, Larson, Timothy E. wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 'k, since SlashCode belongs to the Slashdot folks, we need to rename >>>>>>>>>> th >>>>>>>>>> efork ot someting different ... I want like to somehow keep some sort >>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>> 'history in the name' ... anyone got better then SlashTNG? PortalSC >>>>>>>>>> (SC >>>>>>>>>> == Slashcode)? Something better ... ? >>>>>>>>> Backslash (Slash is back)? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Solidus (the typography geek in me comes out)? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Tim >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Tim Larson >>>>>>>>> App Admin, Intercall Production Services >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ---- >>>>>>>> Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. >>>>>>>> sc...@hu... http://www.hub.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:sc...@hu... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>> The ultimate all-in-one performance toolkit: Intel(R) Parallel Studio >>>>>>> XE: >>>>>>> Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen. >>>>>>> Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development cycle. >>>>>>> Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit performance. >>>>>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Slashcode-general mailing list >>>>>>> Sla...@li... >>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general >>>>>>> >>>>>> ---- >>>>>> Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. >>>>>> sc...@hu... http://www.hub.org >>>>>> >>>>>> Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:sc...@hu... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>> The ultimate all-in-one performance toolkit: Intel(R) Parallel Studio XE: >>>>>> Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen. >>>>>> Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development cycle. >>>>>> Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit performance. >>>>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Slashcode-general mailing list >>>>>> Sla...@li... >>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> ---- >>>> Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. >>>> sc...@hu... http://www.hub.org >>>> >>>> Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:sc...@hu... >>>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> The ultimate all-in-one performance toolkit: Intel(R) Parallel Studio XE: >>> Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen. >>> Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development cycle. >>> Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit performance. >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Slashcode-general mailing list >>> Sla...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general >>> >> >> ---- >> Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. >> sc...@hu... http://www.hub.org >> >> Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:sc...@hu... >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> The ultimate all-in-one performance toolkit: Intel(R) Parallel Studio XE: >> Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen. >> Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development cycle. >> Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit performance. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb >> _______________________________________________ >> Slashcode-general mailing list >> Sla...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The ultimate all-in-one performance toolkit: Intel(R) Parallel Studio XE: > Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen. > Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development cycle. > Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit performance. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb > _______________________________________________ > Slashcode-general mailing list > Sla...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general > -- Pants are Optional |
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From: Alexandre L. <ale...@ec...> - 2011-02-08 21:17:37
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I think the point is instead of 'forking and renaming' slashcode, would be to just update slashcode and continue to use its name. If former developers agrees of course (why wouldn't they?). good luck - Alex -- Alexandre Leroux, M.Sc., ing. Section de la réponse aux urgences environnementales / Environmental Emergency Response Section Centre météorologique canadien / Canadian Meteorological Centre Environnement Canada / Environment Canada ale...@ec... - (514) 421-5024 On 02/08/11 16:13, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > But, that is what we are doing ... forking hte project, and workingot > re-vitalize it ... once we get the initial infrastructure in place, we'll > do an announce to this list, and make a request to Jamie et al to put > something on the main page of the slashcode web site pointing ppl to the > new site ... > > On Tue, 8 Feb 2011, George Taft wrote: > >> Well, after sleeping on it, I have a new thought. >> >> To date, "Slash" has been the Software. "Slashcode" has been the >> "Slash Open Source Project," as the site at slashcode.com calls >> itself. >> >> The Software, those of us still here agree, has utility and is worth >> continuing to develop. But users have almost all drifted away because >> the Project has suffered from a profound lack of attention. That would >> be because those of us still here all but do not include the Slashdot >> team, who greatly reduced their priority to the Project in favor of >> Slashdot itself. >> >> I notice that Chris Nandor, the last person to post an article at >> slashcode.com, <a >> href="http://use.perl.org/~pudge/journal/40493">stopped working for >> Slashdot/GeekNet as of 2010Q4.</a> He put the use.perl.org site on >> hiatus before he quit. I'm betting that he no longer considers >> Slashcode a priority, either. Jamie McCarthy, the second-to-last to >> post an article, works for GeekNet but not Slashdot. (Jamie has >> contacted us with words of encouragement.) >> >> All this begs the question: why have we not asked the Slashdot team if >> they wouldn't mind if someone else took over altogether the "Slash >> Open Source Project" that is slashcode.com? >> >> == George >> >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Marc G. Fournier <sc...@hu...> wrote: >>> On Tue, 8 Feb 2011, Andre-John Mas wrote: >>> >>>> Or a small variation: >>>> >>>> SlashCode-NG >>> I could go for that one ... any nay's on that? >>> >>> >>>> On 8-Feb-2011, at 10:07, Marc G. Fournier wrote: >>>> >>>>> Cute :) >>>>> >>>>> None of them *really* ring though, now do they? :) >>>>> >>>>> Just so that we don't get hung up on a name and never actually move >>>>> forward with the critical stuff, u nless anyone has something that >>>>> *rings* >>>>> to put forward, does anyone have any disagreements with just going with: >>>>> >>>>> SlashTNG >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, 7 Feb 2011, George Taft wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Oh, I love this thread. I like Backslash and Solidus. I came up with: >>>>>> >>>>>> Slashback >>>>>> Slasher >>>>>> Slashout >>>>>> >>>>>> Slapdash >>>>>> StrikeThat >>>>>> >>>>>> SlashAndBurn >>>>>> SlashAndCarry >>>>>> SlashCut >>>>>> SlashedPotatoes >>>>>> SlashinthePan >>>>>> >>>>>> Things that slash: >>>>>> -- pirates; swashbucklers >>>>>> -- a spare in bowling >>>>>> -- a slash is a stroke; stricken; struck >>>>>> >>>>>> == George >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 6:34 PM, Marc G. Fournier <sc...@hu...> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> As far as domains are concerned, both are already taken ... :( >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, 7 Feb 2011, Larson, Timothy E. wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 'k, since SlashCode belongs to the Slashdot folks, we need to rename >>>>>>>>> th >>>>>>>>> efork ot someting different ... I want like to somehow keep some sort >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> 'history in the name' ... anyone got better then SlashTNG? PortalSC >>>>>>>>> (SC >>>>>>>>> == Slashcode)? Something better ... ? >>>>>>>> Backslash (Slash is back)? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Solidus (the typography geek in me comes out)? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tim >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Tim Larson >>>>>>>> App Admin, Intercall Production Services >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---- >>>>>>> Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. >>>>>>> sc...@hu... http://www.hub.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:sc...@hu... >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>> The ultimate all-in-one performance toolkit: Intel(R) Parallel Studio >>>>>> XE: >>>>>> Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen. >>>>>> Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development cycle. >>>>>> Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit performance. >>>>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Slashcode-general mailing list >>>>>> Sla...@li... >>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general >>>>>> >>>>> ---- >>>>> Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. >>>>> sc...@hu... http://www.hub.org >>>>> >>>>> Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:sc...@hu... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> The ultimate all-in-one performance toolkit: Intel(R) Parallel Studio XE: >>>>> Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen. >>>>> Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development cycle. >>>>> Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit performance. >>>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Slashcode-general mailing list >>>>> Sla...@li... >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general >>>>> >>>> >>> ---- >>> Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. >>> sc...@hu... http://www.hub.org >>> >>> Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:sc...@hu... >>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> The ultimate all-in-one performance toolkit: Intel(R) Parallel Studio XE: >> Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen. >> Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development cycle. >> Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit performance. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb >> _______________________________________________ >> Slashcode-general mailing list >> Sla...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general >> > > ---- > Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. > sc...@hu... http://www.hub.org > > Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:sc...@hu... > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The ultimate all-in-one performance toolkit: Intel(R) Parallel Studio XE: > Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen. > Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development cycle. > Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit performance. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb > _______________________________________________ > Slashcode-general mailing list > Sla...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general |
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From: Marc G. F. <sc...@hu...> - 2011-02-08 21:13:58
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But, that is what we are doing ... forking hte project, and workingot re-vitalize it ... once we get the initial infrastructure in place, we'll do an announce to this list, and make a request to Jamie et al to put something on the main page of the slashcode web site pointing ppl to the new site ... On Tue, 8 Feb 2011, George Taft wrote: > Well, after sleeping on it, I have a new thought. > > To date, "Slash" has been the Software. "Slashcode" has been the > "Slash Open Source Project," as the site at slashcode.com calls > itself. > > The Software, those of us still here agree, has utility and is worth > continuing to develop. But users have almost all drifted away because > the Project has suffered from a profound lack of attention. That would > be because those of us still here all but do not include the Slashdot > team, who greatly reduced their priority to the Project in favor of > Slashdot itself. > > I notice that Chris Nandor, the last person to post an article at > slashcode.com, <a > href="http://use.perl.org/~pudge/journal/40493">stopped working for > Slashdot/GeekNet as of 2010Q4.</a> He put the use.perl.org site on > hiatus before he quit. I'm betting that he no longer considers > Slashcode a priority, either. Jamie McCarthy, the second-to-last to > post an article, works for GeekNet but not Slashdot. (Jamie has > contacted us with words of encouragement.) > > All this begs the question: why have we not asked the Slashdot team if > they wouldn't mind if someone else took over altogether the "Slash > Open Source Project" that is slashcode.com? > > == George > > > > On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Marc G. Fournier <sc...@hu...> wrote: >> On Tue, 8 Feb 2011, Andre-John Mas wrote: >> >>> Or a small variation: >>> >>> SlashCode-NG >> >> I could go for that one ... any nay's on that? >> >> >>> >>> On 8-Feb-2011, at 10:07, Marc G. Fournier wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Cute :) >>>> >>>> None of them *really* ring though, now do they? :) >>>> >>>> Just so that we don't get hung up on a name and never actually move >>>> forward with the critical stuff, u nless anyone has something that >>>> *rings* >>>> to put forward, does anyone have any disagreements with just going with: >>>> >>>> SlashTNG >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, 7 Feb 2011, George Taft wrote: >>>> >>>>> Oh, I love this thread. I like Backslash and Solidus. I came up with: >>>>> >>>>> Slashback >>>>> Slasher >>>>> Slashout >>>>> >>>>> Slapdash >>>>> StrikeThat >>>>> >>>>> SlashAndBurn >>>>> SlashAndCarry >>>>> SlashCut >>>>> SlashedPotatoes >>>>> SlashinthePan >>>>> >>>>> Things that slash: >>>>> -- pirates; swashbucklers >>>>> -- a spare in bowling >>>>> -- a slash is a stroke; stricken; struck >>>>> >>>>> == George >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 6:34 PM, Marc G. Fournier <sc...@hu...> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> As far as domains are concerned, both are already taken ... :( >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, 7 Feb 2011, Larson, Timothy E. wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>> 'k, since SlashCode belongs to the Slashdot folks, we need to rename >>>>>>>> th >>>>>>>> efork ot someting different ... I want like to somehow keep some sort >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> 'history in the name' ... anyone got better then SlashTNG? PortalSC >>>>>>>> (SC >>>>>>>> == Slashcode)? Something better ... ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Backslash (Slash is back)? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Solidus (the typography geek in me comes out)? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tim >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Tim Larson >>>>>>> App Admin, Intercall Production Services >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ---- >>>>>> Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. >>>>>> sc...@hu... http://www.hub.org >>>>>> >>>>>> Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:sc...@hu... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> The ultimate all-in-one performance toolkit: Intel(R) Parallel Studio >>>>> XE: >>>>> Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen. >>>>> Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development cycle. >>>>> Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit performance. >>>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Slashcode-general mailing list >>>>> Sla...@li... >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general >>>>> >>>> >>>> ---- >>>> Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. >>>> sc...@hu... http://www.hub.org >>>> >>>> Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:sc...@hu... >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> The ultimate all-in-one performance toolkit: Intel(R) Parallel Studio XE: >>>> Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen. >>>> Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development cycle. >>>> Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit performance. >>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Slashcode-general mailing list >>>> Sla...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general >>>> >>> >>> >> >> ---- >> Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. >> sc...@hu... http://www.hub.org >> >> Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:sc...@hu... >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The ultimate all-in-one performance toolkit: Intel(R) Parallel Studio XE: > Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen. > Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development cycle. > Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit performance. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb > _______________________________________________ > Slashcode-general mailing list > Sla...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general > ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. sc...@hu... http://www.hub.org Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:sc...@hu... |
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From: George T. <geo...@gm...> - 2011-02-08 21:10:08
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Well, after sleeping on it, I have a new thought. To date, "Slash" has been the Software. "Slashcode" has been the "Slash Open Source Project," as the site at slashcode.com calls itself. The Software, those of us still here agree, has utility and is worth continuing to develop. But users have almost all drifted away because the Project has suffered from a profound lack of attention. That would be because those of us still here all but do not include the Slashdot team, who greatly reduced their priority to the Project in favor of Slashdot itself. I notice that Chris Nandor, the last person to post an article at slashcode.com, <a href="http://use.perl.org/~pudge/journal/40493">stopped working for Slashdot/GeekNet as of 2010Q4.</a> He put the use.perl.org site on hiatus before he quit. I'm betting that he no longer considers Slashcode a priority, either. Jamie McCarthy, the second-to-last to post an article, works for GeekNet but not Slashdot. (Jamie has contacted us with words of encouragement.) All this begs the question: why have we not asked the Slashdot team if they wouldn't mind if someone else took over altogether the "Slash Open Source Project" that is slashcode.com? == George On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Marc G. Fournier <sc...@hu...> wrote: > On Tue, 8 Feb 2011, Andre-John Mas wrote: > >> Or a small variation: >> >> SlashCode-NG > > I could go for that one ... any nay's on that? > > >> >> On 8-Feb-2011, at 10:07, Marc G. Fournier wrote: >> >>> >>> Cute :) >>> >>> None of them *really* ring though, now do they? :) >>> >>> Just so that we don't get hung up on a name and never actually move >>> forward with the critical stuff, u nless anyone has something that >>> *rings* >>> to put forward, does anyone have any disagreements with just going with: >>> >>> SlashTNG >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, 7 Feb 2011, George Taft wrote: >>> >>>> Oh, I love this thread. I like Backslash and Solidus. I came up with: >>>> >>>> Slashback >>>> Slasher >>>> Slashout >>>> >>>> Slapdash >>>> StrikeThat >>>> >>>> SlashAndBurn >>>> SlashAndCarry >>>> SlashCut >>>> SlashedPotatoes >>>> SlashinthePan >>>> >>>> Things that slash: >>>> -- pirates; swashbucklers >>>> -- a spare in bowling >>>> -- a slash is a stroke; stricken; struck >>>> >>>> == George >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 6:34 PM, Marc G. Fournier <sc...@hu...> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> As far as domains are concerned, both are already taken ... :( >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, 7 Feb 2011, Larson, Timothy E. wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>> 'k, since SlashCode belongs to the Slashdot folks, we need to rename >>>>>>> th >>>>>>> efork ot someting different ... I want like to somehow keep some sort >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> 'history in the name' ... anyone got better then SlashTNG? PortalSC >>>>>>> (SC >>>>>>> == Slashcode)? Something better ... ? >>>>>> >>>>>> Backslash (Slash is back)? >>>>>> >>>>>> Solidus (the typography geek in me comes out)? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Tim >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Tim Larson >>>>>> App Admin, Intercall Production Services >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---- >>>>> Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. >>>>> sc...@hu... http://www.hub.org >>>>> >>>>> Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:sc...@hu... >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> The ultimate all-in-one performance toolkit: Intel(R) Parallel Studio >>>> XE: >>>> Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen. >>>> Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development cycle. >>>> Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit performance. >>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Slashcode-general mailing list >>>> Sla...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general >>>> >>> >>> ---- >>> Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. >>> sc...@hu... http://www.hub.org >>> >>> Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:sc...@hu... >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> The ultimate all-in-one performance toolkit: Intel(R) Parallel Studio XE: >>> Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen. >>> Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development cycle. >>> Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit performance. >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Slashcode-general mailing list >>> Sla...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general >>> >> >> > > ---- > Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. > sc...@hu... http://www.hub.org > > Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:sc...@hu... > |
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From: Larson, T. E. <TEL...@we...> - 2011-02-08 15:41:30
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> > Backslash (Slash is back)? > > > > Solidus (the typography geek in me comes out)? > As far as domains are concerned, both are already taken ... :( If you like the name Foo but can't get the domain Foo.TLD, you can always go for FooProject.TLD. Tim -- Tim Larson App Admin, Intercall Production Services |
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From: Marc G. F. <sc...@hu...> - 2011-02-08 15:18:17
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On Tue, 8 Feb 2011, Andre-John Mas wrote: > Or a small variation: > > SlashCode-NG I could go for that one ... any nay's on that? > > On 8-Feb-2011, at 10:07, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > >> >> Cute :) >> >> None of them *really* ring though, now do they? :) >> >> Just so that we don't get hung up on a name and never actually move >> forward with the critical stuff, u nless anyone has something that *rings* >> to put forward, does anyone have any disagreements with just going with: >> >> SlashTNG >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, 7 Feb 2011, George Taft wrote: >> >>> Oh, I love this thread. I like Backslash and Solidus. I came up with: >>> >>> Slashback >>> Slasher >>> Slashout >>> >>> Slapdash >>> StrikeThat >>> >>> SlashAndBurn >>> SlashAndCarry >>> SlashCut >>> SlashedPotatoes >>> SlashinthePan >>> >>> Things that slash: >>> -- pirates; swashbucklers >>> -- a spare in bowling >>> -- a slash is a stroke; stricken; struck >>> >>> == George >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 6:34 PM, Marc G. Fournier <sc...@hu...> wrote: >>>> >>>> As far as domains are concerned, both are already taken ... :( >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, 7 Feb 2011, Larson, Timothy E. wrote: >>>> >>>>>> 'k, since SlashCode belongs to the Slashdot folks, we need to rename th >>>>>> efork ot someting different ... I want like to somehow keep some sort of >>>>>> 'history in the name' ... anyone got better then SlashTNG? PortalSC (SC >>>>>> == Slashcode)? Something better ... ? >>>>> >>>>> Backslash (Slash is back)? >>>>> >>>>> Solidus (the typography geek in me comes out)? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Tim >>>>> -- >>>>> Tim Larson >>>>> App Admin, Intercall Production Services >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> ---- >>>> Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. >>>> sc...@hu... http://www.hub.org >>>> >>>> Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:sc...@hu... >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> The ultimate all-in-one performance toolkit: Intel(R) Parallel Studio XE: >>> Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen. >>> Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development cycle. >>> Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit performance. >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Slashcode-general mailing list >>> Sla...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general >>> >> >> ---- >> Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. >> sc...@hu... http://www.hub.org >> >> Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:sc...@hu... >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> The ultimate all-in-one performance toolkit: Intel(R) Parallel Studio XE: >> Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen. >> Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development cycle. >> Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit performance. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb >> _______________________________________________ >> Slashcode-general mailing list >> Sla...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general >> > > ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. sc...@hu... http://www.hub.org Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:sc...@hu... |
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From: Andre-John M. <aj...@sy...> - 2011-02-08 15:16:56
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Or a small variation: SlashCode-NG On 8-Feb-2011, at 10:07, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > Cute :) > > None of them *really* ring though, now do they? :) > > Just so that we don't get hung up on a name and never actually move > forward with the critical stuff, u nless anyone has something that *rings* > to put forward, does anyone have any disagreements with just going with: > > SlashTNG > > > > > On Mon, 7 Feb 2011, George Taft wrote: > >> Oh, I love this thread. I like Backslash and Solidus. I came up with: >> >> Slashback >> Slasher >> Slashout >> >> Slapdash >> StrikeThat >> >> SlashAndBurn >> SlashAndCarry >> SlashCut >> SlashedPotatoes >> SlashinthePan >> >> Things that slash: >> -- pirates; swashbucklers >> -- a spare in bowling >> -- a slash is a stroke; stricken; struck >> >> == George >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 6:34 PM, Marc G. Fournier <sc...@hu...> wrote: >>> >>> As far as domains are concerned, both are already taken ... :( >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, 7 Feb 2011, Larson, Timothy E. wrote: >>> >>>>> 'k, since SlashCode belongs to the Slashdot folks, we need to rename th >>>>> efork ot someting different ... I want like to somehow keep some sort of >>>>> 'history in the name' ... anyone got better then SlashTNG? PortalSC (SC >>>>> == Slashcode)? Something better ... ? >>>> >>>> Backslash (Slash is back)? >>>> >>>> Solidus (the typography geek in me comes out)? >>>> >>>> >>>> Tim >>>> -- >>>> Tim Larson >>>> App Admin, Intercall Production Services >>>> >>>> >>> >>> ---- >>> Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. >>> sc...@hu... http://www.hub.org >>> >>> Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:sc...@hu... >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> The ultimate all-in-one performance toolkit: Intel(R) Parallel Studio XE: >> Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen. >> Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development cycle. >> Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit performance. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb >> _______________________________________________ >> Slashcode-general mailing list >> Sla...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general >> > > ---- > Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. > sc...@hu... http://www.hub.org > > Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:sc...@hu... > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The ultimate all-in-one performance toolkit: Intel(R) Parallel Studio XE: > Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen. > Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development cycle. > Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit performance. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb > _______________________________________________ > Slashcode-general mailing list > Sla...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general > |
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From: Marc G. F. <sc...@hu...> - 2011-02-08 15:07:33
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Cute :) None of them *really* ring though, now do they? :) Just so that we don't get hung up on a name and never actually move forward with the critical stuff, u nless anyone has something that *rings* to put forward, does anyone have any disagreements with just going with: SlashTNG On Mon, 7 Feb 2011, George Taft wrote: > Oh, I love this thread. I like Backslash and Solidus. I came up with: > > Slashback > Slasher > Slashout > > Slapdash > StrikeThat > > SlashAndBurn > SlashAndCarry > SlashCut > SlashedPotatoes > SlashinthePan > > Things that slash: > -- pirates; swashbucklers > -- a spare in bowling > -- a slash is a stroke; stricken; struck > > == George > > > On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 6:34 PM, Marc G. Fournier <sc...@hu...> wrote: >> >> As far as domains are concerned, both are already taken ... :( >> >> >> >> On Mon, 7 Feb 2011, Larson, Timothy E. wrote: >> >>>> 'k, since SlashCode belongs to the Slashdot folks, we need to rename th >>>> efork ot someting different ... I want like to somehow keep some sort of >>>> 'history in the name' ... anyone got better then SlashTNG? PortalSC (SC >>>> == Slashcode)? Something better ... ? >>> >>> Backslash (Slash is back)? >>> >>> Solidus (the typography geek in me comes out)? >>> >>> >>> Tim >>> -- >>> Tim Larson >>> App Admin, Intercall Production Services >>> >>> >> >> ---- >> Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. >> sc...@hu... http://www.hub.org >> >> Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:sc...@hu... > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The ultimate all-in-one performance toolkit: Intel(R) Parallel Studio XE: > Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen. > Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development cycle. > Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit performance. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb > _______________________________________________ > Slashcode-general mailing list > Sla...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general > ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. sc...@hu... http://www.hub.org Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:sc...@hu... |
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From: George T. <geo...@gm...> - 2011-02-08 01:14:31
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Oh, I love this thread. I like Backslash and Solidus. I came up with: Slashback Slasher Slashout Slapdash StrikeThat SlashAndBurn SlashAndCarry SlashCut SlashedPotatoes SlashinthePan Things that slash: -- pirates; swashbucklers -- a spare in bowling -- a slash is a stroke; stricken; struck == George On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 6:34 PM, Marc G. Fournier <sc...@hu...> wrote: > > As far as domains are concerned, both are already taken ... :( > > > > On Mon, 7 Feb 2011, Larson, Timothy E. wrote: > >>> 'k, since SlashCode belongs to the Slashdot folks, we need to rename th >>> efork ot someting different ... I want like to somehow keep some sort of >>> 'history in the name' ... anyone got better then SlashTNG? PortalSC (SC >>> == Slashcode)? Something better ... ? >> >> Backslash (Slash is back)? >> >> Solidus (the typography geek in me comes out)? >> >> >> Tim >> -- >> Tim Larson >> App Admin, Intercall Production Services >> >> > > ---- > Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. > sc...@hu... http://www.hub.org > > Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:sc...@hu... |
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From: Marc G. F. <sc...@hu...> - 2011-02-07 23:35:02
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As far as domains are concerned, both are already taken ... :( On Mon, 7 Feb 2011, Larson, Timothy E. wrote: >> 'k, since SlashCode belongs to the Slashdot folks, we need to rename th >> efork ot someting different ... I want like to somehow keep some sort of >> 'history in the name' ... anyone got better then SlashTNG? PortalSC (SC >> == Slashcode)? Something better ... ? > > Backslash (Slash is back)? > > Solidus (the typography geek in me comes out)? > > > Tim > -- > Tim Larson > App Admin, Intercall Production Services > > ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. sc...@hu... http://www.hub.org Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:sc...@hu... |
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From: Larson, T. E. <TEL...@we...> - 2011-02-07 21:48:04
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> 'k, since SlashCode belongs to the Slashdot folks, we need to rename th > efork ot someting different ... I want like to somehow keep some sort of > 'history in the name' ... anyone got better then SlashTNG? PortalSC (SC > == Slashcode)? Something better ... ? Backslash (Slash is back)? Solidus (the typography geek in me comes out)? Tim -- Tim Larson App Admin, Intercall Production Services |
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From: Marc G. F. <sc...@hu...> - 2011-02-07 21:31:15
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'k, since SlashCode belongs to the Slashdot folks, we need to rename th efork ot someting different ... I want like to somehow keep some sort of 'history in the name' ... anyone got better then SlashTNG? PortalSC (SC == Slashcode)? Something better ... ? On Mon, 7 Feb 2011, Shane Zatezalo wrote: > https://github.com/lottadot/slashcode > > via git read only git clone git://github.com/lottadot/slashcode.git > via http read only git https://lot...@gi.../lottadot/slashcode.git > via ssh git clone gi...@gi...:lottadot/slashcode.git > > I did delete the repo off github, and re-created it early this > morning, straight from their git-repo-head (rather then what I had, > yesterday). That way it has the commit history intact. The branch > 'live' is the same as well. Theoretically work could be done via > github, and the slashcode team could selectively-pull from the github > repo. > > Here are the commands I exec'd to get it (YMMV): > > $ git clone gi...@gi...:lottadot/slashcode.git slashcode-github > $ cd slashcode-github/ > $ git checkout live > Already on 'live' > $ git branch live > > Shane > > On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Marc G. Fournier <sc...@hu...> wrote: >> >> Shane ... >> >> What did you call the repo on github? how do we access it? >> >> On Mon, 7 Feb 2011, Marc G. Fournier wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 7 Feb 2011, Shane Zatezalo wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Yes, I saw Jamie's comment. Consequently, I went and grabbed the newer >>>> code via SF, and merged it w/ the repo that I created on github. I think, >>>> given the fact that we now now how to access the newer stuff on SF.Net, the >>>> need for the repo I created on Github is gone. I'll leave it be for a day or >>>> two, incase someone wants to pull from it, just to get the latest in a >>>> simple pull, but then I think I'm going to delete the repo entirely. >>> >>> NOpe, we need the new one ... the old one, we cannot commit to, so its >>> static ... if we are going to do work on it, and create proper releases, we >>> need someting we can commit to ... >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Feb 7, 2011, at 10:27 AM, Marc G. Fournier wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Sun, 6 Feb 2011, Shane Zatezalo wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I vote put it on github. >>>>>> >>>>>> I did this: >>>>>> >>>>>> git clone >>>>>> git://slashcode.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/slashcode/slashcode >>>>>> >>>>>> per the info I found on this: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/slashcode/develop >>>>>> >>>>>> and rec'd the "nonexistent ref" which I believe is the same problem >>>>>> with their repo that existed in 2009. Sadly, even the browse-code is broke: >>>>>> http://slashcode.cvs.sourceforge.net/slashcode >>>>> >>>>> See note from Jamie, but not a problem, just a mis-understanding on what >>>>> hte error means :( So we do have a good starting point on this ... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm fairly certain I've got a checkout somewhere of the slashcode-head >>>>>> as it was immediately before they stopped committing to it. I'll look >>>>>> around. If I find it I'll throw it up on Github. >>>>>> >>>>>> Shane >>>>>> >>>>>> PS Actual output: >>>>>> >>>>>> coolio:tmp shane$ git clone >>>>>> git://slashcode.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/slashcode/slashcode >>>>>> Cloning into slashcode... >>>>>> remote: Counting objects: 93881, done. >>>>>> remote: Compressing objects: 100% (21517/21517), done. >>>>>> remote: Total 93881 (delta 69417), reused 93881 (delta 69417) >>>>>> Receiving objects: 100% (93881/93881), 14.93 MiB | 696 KiB/s, done. >>>>>> Resolving deltas: 100% (69417/69417), done. >>>>>> warning: remote HEAD refers to nonexistent ref, unable to checkout. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 6, 2011, at 4:33 PM, George Taft wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Cliff, thanks for the explanation, and the offer. Shane, thanks for >>>>>>> the advice on the Slash component of an install. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When I get a copy of the repository that Cliff offered, I will try to >>>>>>> document unambiguously my effort to make an install from scratch on a >>>>>>> stock install of CentOS 5.5. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I admit that I don't really get Git in the first place. Even so, it >>>>>>> seems to me that the overall benefit on the Slashcode project of the >>>>>>> move to Git was, shall we say, less than optimal? I wonder what others >>>>>>> think, and how a future fork of the project should conduct itself. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> == George >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Clifton Wood <cli...@gm...> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "HEAD" means the latest revision published by whatever source code >>>>>>>> manager >>>>>>>> you are using. If Slashcode has moved to git and git is working (last >>>>>>>> time I >>>>>>>> tried, which was 6-10 months ago, git didn't work). I still think I >>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>> that repository, somewhere. If I do, I'll tar it and drop it to you >>>>>>>> via >>>>>>>> email. >>>>>>>> - Cliff >>>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 3:06 PM, George Taft <geo...@gm...> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <preface>I want to say against any future critiques: my goal is to >>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>> a publisher. I want to run a large community discussion. I think the >>>>>>>>> moderation system of Slashdot, realized in whatever eventual form, >>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>> the only one for my purposes. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It should be no surprise that I'm much more of an editor than a >>>>>>>>> coder. >>>>>>>>> Ironically, though, the Slashcode community itself is in need of >>>>>>>>> reinvigoration, which makes someone like me perhaps more useful at >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> moment than someone who can field-strip a Perl rifle. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please consider me an enlightened end-user: ignorant of the >>>>>>>>> necessary >>>>>>>>> minutiae, but educable. I'm not a developer. I don't yet understand >>>>>>>>> certain jargon. I'll need to ask questions that may seem idiotic or >>>>>>>>> pedantic to some. I ask your indulgence. (Since the community was >>>>>>>>> all >>>>>>>>> but dead a few days ago, what has anyone still here got to lose by >>>>>>>>> letting me ask? The trail left by my questions will help and >>>>>>>>> encourage >>>>>>>>> others like me.)</preface> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Shane -- Forgive my ignorance. When I go to >>>>>>>>> <https://sourceforge.net/projects/slashcode/files/Bundle-Slash>, I >>>>>>>>> see >>>>>>>>> "Looking for the latest version? Download Bundle-Slash-2.52.tar.gz >>>>>>>>> (2.1 KB)". Then I see the litany of versions prior to 2.52. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I understand packages with version numbers. I don't understand what >>>>>>>>> you mean by version "HEAD", the "last SCM-Head," or where to go to >>>>>>>>> "get from src." Could you or someone explain? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> == George >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Shane Zatezalo <sh...@lo...> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Distro: CentOS >>>>>>>>>> Slash-version: HEAD (from src, never package) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Don't use the 2.2.6, it is just *too* ancient to bother with. And >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> upgrade from 2.26 -> SCM-Head was just brutal. Work from the last >>>>>>>>>> SCM-Head. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If I recall I'd start off buy getting perl, mod_perl and apache >>>>>>>>>> compiled >>>>>>>>>> togther and functionally running. >>>>>>>>>> While I was doing that, I'd (in another term window) install mySQL >>>>>>>>>> (and >>>>>>>>>> in another window) start installing CPAN modules (follow the >>>>>>>>>> cpan-instructions from slash-HEAD by the book). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Once all that was done, I could make install and then >>>>>>>>>> 'install-slashsite' at will. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>> The modern datacenter depends on network connectivity to access >>>>>>> resources >>>>>>> and provide services. The best practices for maximizing a physical >>>>>>> server's >>>>>>> connectivity to a physical network are well understood - see how these >>>>>>> rules translate into the virtual world? >>>>>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnlfb >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Slashcode-general mailing list >>>>>>> Sla...@li... >>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>> The modern datacenter depends on network connectivity to access >>>>>> resources >>>>>> and provide services. The best practices for maximizing a physical >>>>>> server's >>>>>> connectivity to a physical network are well understood - see how these >>>>>> rules translate into the virtual world? >>>>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnlfb >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Slashcode-general mailing list >>>>>> Sla...@li... >>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---- >>>>> Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. >>>>> sc...@hu... http://www.hub.org >>>>> >>>>> Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:sc...@hu... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> The modern datacenter depends on network connectivity to access resources >>>> and provide services. The best practices for maximizing a physical >>>> server's >>>> connectivity to a physical network are well understood - see how these >>>> rules translate into the virtual world? >>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnlfb >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Slashcode-general mailing list >>>> Sla...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general >>>> >>> >>> ---- >>> Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. >>> sc...@hu... http://www.hub.org >>> >>> Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:sc...@hu... >>> >> >> ---- >> Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. >> sc...@hu... http://www.hub.org >> >> Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:sc...@hu... >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The ultimate all-in-one performance toolkit: Intel(R) Parallel Studio XE: > Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen. > Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development cycle. > Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit performance. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb > _______________________________________________ > Slashcode-general mailing list > Sla...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general > ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. sc...@hu... http://www.hub.org Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:sc...@hu... |
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From: Shane Z. <sh...@lo...> - 2011-02-07 21:23:00
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https://github.com/lottadot/slashcode via git read only git clone git://github.com/lottadot/slashcode.git via http read only git https://lot...@gi.../lottadot/slashcode.git via ssh git clone gi...@gi...:lottadot/slashcode.git I did delete the repo off github, and re-created it early this morning, straight from their git-repo-head (rather then what I had, yesterday). That way it has the commit history intact. The branch 'live' is the same as well. Theoretically work could be done via github, and the slashcode team could selectively-pull from the github repo. Here are the commands I exec'd to get it (YMMV): $ git clone gi...@gi...:lottadot/slashcode.git slashcode-github $ cd slashcode-github/ $ git checkout live Already on 'live' $ git branch live Shane On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Marc G. Fournier <sc...@hu...> wrote: > > Shane ... > > What did you call the repo on github? how do we access it? > > On Mon, 7 Feb 2011, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > >> On Mon, 7 Feb 2011, Shane Zatezalo wrote: >> >>> >>> Yes, I saw Jamie's comment. Consequently, I went and grabbed the newer >>> code via SF, and merged it w/ the repo that I created on github. I think, >>> given the fact that we now now how to access the newer stuff on SF.Net, the >>> need for the repo I created on Github is gone. I'll leave it be for a day or >>> two, incase someone wants to pull from it, just to get the latest in a >>> simple pull, but then I think I'm going to delete the repo entirely. >> >> NOpe, we need the new one ... the old one, we cannot commit to, so its >> static ... if we are going to do work on it, and create proper releases, we >> need someting we can commit to ... >> >> > >>> >>> On Feb 7, 2011, at 10:27 AM, Marc G. Fournier wrote: >>> >>>> On Sun, 6 Feb 2011, Shane Zatezalo wrote: >>>> >>>>> I vote put it on github. >>>>> >>>>> I did this: >>>>> >>>>> git clone >>>>> git://slashcode.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/slashcode/slashcode >>>>> >>>>> per the info I found on this: >>>>> >>>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/slashcode/develop >>>>> >>>>> and rec'd the "nonexistent ref" which I believe is the same problem >>>>> with their repo that existed in 2009. Sadly, even the browse-code is broke: >>>>> http://slashcode.cvs.sourceforge.net/slashcode >>>> >>>> See note from Jamie, but not a problem, just a mis-understanding on what >>>> hte error means :( So we do have a good starting point on this ... >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> I'm fairly certain I've got a checkout somewhere of the slashcode-head >>>>> as it was immediately before they stopped committing to it. I'll look >>>>> around. If I find it I'll throw it up on Github. >>>>> >>>>> Shane >>>>> >>>>> PS Actual output: >>>>> >>>>> coolio:tmp shane$ git clone >>>>> git://slashcode.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/slashcode/slashcode >>>>> Cloning into slashcode... >>>>> remote: Counting objects: 93881, done. >>>>> remote: Compressing objects: 100% (21517/21517), done. >>>>> remote: Total 93881 (delta 69417), reused 93881 (delta 69417) >>>>> Receiving objects: 100% (93881/93881), 14.93 MiB | 696 KiB/s, done. >>>>> Resolving deltas: 100% (69417/69417), done. >>>>> warning: remote HEAD refers to nonexistent ref, unable to checkout. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Feb 6, 2011, at 4:33 PM, George Taft wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Cliff, thanks for the explanation, and the offer. Shane, thanks for >>>>>> the advice on the Slash component of an install. >>>>>> >>>>>> When I get a copy of the repository that Cliff offered, I will try to >>>>>> document unambiguously my effort to make an install from scratch on a >>>>>> stock install of CentOS 5.5. >>>>>> >>>>>> I admit that I don't really get Git in the first place. Even so, it >>>>>> seems to me that the overall benefit on the Slashcode project of the >>>>>> move to Git was, shall we say, less than optimal? I wonder what others >>>>>> think, and how a future fork of the project should conduct itself. >>>>>> >>>>>> == George >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Clifton Wood <cli...@gm...> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "HEAD" means the latest revision published by whatever source code >>>>>>> manager >>>>>>> you are using. If Slashcode has moved to git and git is working (last >>>>>>> time I >>>>>>> tried, which was 6-10 months ago, git didn't work). I still think I >>>>>>> have >>>>>>> that repository, somewhere. If I do, I'll tar it and drop it to you >>>>>>> via >>>>>>> email. >>>>>>> - Cliff >>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 3:06 PM, George Taft <geo...@gm...> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <preface>I want to say against any future critiques: my goal is to >>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>> a publisher. I want to run a large community discussion. I think the >>>>>>>> moderation system of Slashdot, realized in whatever eventual form, >>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>> the only one for my purposes. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It should be no surprise that I'm much more of an editor than a >>>>>>>> coder. >>>>>>>> Ironically, though, the Slashcode community itself is in need of >>>>>>>> reinvigoration, which makes someone like me perhaps more useful at >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> moment than someone who can field-strip a Perl rifle. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please consider me an enlightened end-user: ignorant of the >>>>>>>> necessary >>>>>>>> minutiae, but educable. I'm not a developer. I don't yet understand >>>>>>>> certain jargon. I'll need to ask questions that may seem idiotic or >>>>>>>> pedantic to some. I ask your indulgence. (Since the community was >>>>>>>> all >>>>>>>> but dead a few days ago, what has anyone still here got to lose by >>>>>>>> letting me ask? The trail left by my questions will help and >>>>>>>> encourage >>>>>>>> others like me.)</preface> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Shane -- Forgive my ignorance. When I go to >>>>>>>> <https://sourceforge.net/projects/slashcode/files/Bundle-Slash>, I >>>>>>>> see >>>>>>>> "Looking for the latest version? Download Bundle-Slash-2.52.tar.gz >>>>>>>> (2.1 KB)". Then I see the litany of versions prior to 2.52. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I understand packages with version numbers. I don't understand what >>>>>>>> you mean by version "HEAD", the "last SCM-Head," or where to go to >>>>>>>> "get from src." Could you or someone explain? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> == George >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Shane Zatezalo <sh...@lo...> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Distro: CentOS >>>>>>>>> Slash-version: HEAD (from src, never package) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Don't use the 2.2.6, it is just *too* ancient to bother with. And >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> upgrade from 2.26 -> SCM-Head was just brutal. Work from the last >>>>>>>>> SCM-Head. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If I recall I'd start off buy getting perl, mod_perl and apache >>>>>>>>> compiled >>>>>>>>> togther and functionally running. >>>>>>>>> While I was doing that, I'd (in another term window) install mySQL >>>>>>>>> (and >>>>>>>>> in another window) start installing CPAN modules (follow the >>>>>>>>> cpan-instructions from slash-HEAD by the book). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Once all that was done, I could make install and then >>>>>>>>> 'install-slashsite' at will. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>> The modern datacenter depends on network connectivity to access >>>>>> resources >>>>>> and provide services. The best practices for maximizing a physical >>>>>> server's >>>>>> connectivity to a physical network are well understood - see how these >>>>>> rules translate into the virtual world? >>>>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnlfb >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Slashcode-general mailing list >>>>>> Sla...@li... >>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> The modern datacenter depends on network connectivity to access >>>>> resources >>>>> and provide services. The best practices for maximizing a physical >>>>> server's >>>>> connectivity to a physical network are well understood - see how these >>>>> rules translate into the virtual world? >>>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnlfb >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Slashcode-general mailing list >>>>> Sla...@li... >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general >>>>> >>>> >>>> ---- >>>> Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. >>>> sc...@hu... http://www.hub.org >>>> >>>> Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:sc...@hu... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> The modern datacenter depends on network connectivity to access resources >>> and provide services. The best practices for maximizing a physical >>> server's >>> connectivity to a physical network are well understood - see how these >>> rules translate into the virtual world? >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnlfb >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Slashcode-general mailing list >>> Sla...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general >>> >> >> ---- >> Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. >> sc...@hu... http://www.hub.org >> >> Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:sc...@hu... >> > > ---- > Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. > sc...@hu... http://www.hub.org > > Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:sc...@hu... > |
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From: Marc G. F. <sc...@hu...> - 2011-02-07 20:33:02
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Shane ... What did you call the repo on github? how do we access it? On Mon, 7 Feb 2011, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > On Mon, 7 Feb 2011, Shane Zatezalo wrote: > >> >> Yes, I saw Jamie's comment. Consequently, I went and grabbed the newer code >> via SF, and merged it w/ the repo that I created on github. I think, given >> the fact that we now now how to access the newer stuff on SF.Net, the need >> for the repo I created on Github is gone. I'll leave it be for a day or >> two, incase someone wants to pull from it, just to get the latest in a >> simple pull, but then I think I'm going to delete the repo entirely. > > NOpe, we need the new one ... the old one, we cannot commit to, so its static > ... if we are going to do work on it, and create proper releases, we need > someting we can commit to ... > > > >> >> On Feb 7, 2011, at 10:27 AM, Marc G. Fournier wrote: >> >>> On Sun, 6 Feb 2011, Shane Zatezalo wrote: >>> >>>> I vote put it on github. >>>> >>>> I did this: >>>> >>>> git clone git://slashcode.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/slashcode/slashcode >>>> >>>> per the info I found on this: >>>> >>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/slashcode/develop >>>> >>>> and rec'd the "nonexistent ref" which I believe is the same problem with >>>> their repo that existed in 2009. Sadly, even the browse-code is broke: >>>> http://slashcode.cvs.sourceforge.net/slashcode >>> >>> See note from Jamie, but not a problem, just a mis-understanding on what >>> hte error means :( So we do have a good starting point on this ... >>> >>> >>>> >>>> I'm fairly certain I've got a checkout somewhere of the slashcode-head as >>>> it was immediately before they stopped committing to it. I'll look >>>> around. If I find it I'll throw it up on Github. >>>> >>>> Shane >>>> >>>> PS Actual output: >>>> >>>> coolio:tmp shane$ git clone >>>> git://slashcode.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/slashcode/slashcode >>>> Cloning into slashcode... >>>> remote: Counting objects: 93881, done. >>>> remote: Compressing objects: 100% (21517/21517), done. >>>> remote: Total 93881 (delta 69417), reused 93881 (delta 69417) >>>> Receiving objects: 100% (93881/93881), 14.93 MiB | 696 KiB/s, done. >>>> Resolving deltas: 100% (69417/69417), done. >>>> warning: remote HEAD refers to nonexistent ref, unable to checkout. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Feb 6, 2011, at 4:33 PM, George Taft wrote: >>>> >>>>> Cliff, thanks for the explanation, and the offer. Shane, thanks for >>>>> the advice on the Slash component of an install. >>>>> >>>>> When I get a copy of the repository that Cliff offered, I will try to >>>>> document unambiguously my effort to make an install from scratch on a >>>>> stock install of CentOS 5.5. >>>>> >>>>> I admit that I don't really get Git in the first place. Even so, it >>>>> seems to me that the overall benefit on the Slashcode project of the >>>>> move to Git was, shall we say, less than optimal? I wonder what others >>>>> think, and how a future fork of the project should conduct itself. >>>>> >>>>> == George >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Clifton Wood <cli...@gm...> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> "HEAD" means the latest revision published by whatever source code >>>>>> manager >>>>>> you are using. If Slashcode has moved to git and git is working (last >>>>>> time I >>>>>> tried, which was 6-10 months ago, git didn't work). I still think I >>>>>> have >>>>>> that repository, somewhere. If I do, I'll tar it and drop it to you via >>>>>> email. >>>>>> - Cliff >>>>>> On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 3:06 PM, George Taft <geo...@gm...> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <preface>I want to say against any future critiques: my goal is to be >>>>>>> a publisher. I want to run a large community discussion. I think the >>>>>>> moderation system of Slashdot, realized in whatever eventual form, is >>>>>>> the only one for my purposes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It should be no surprise that I'm much more of an editor than a coder. >>>>>>> Ironically, though, the Slashcode community itself is in need of >>>>>>> reinvigoration, which makes someone like me perhaps more useful at the >>>>>>> moment than someone who can field-strip a Perl rifle. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please consider me an enlightened end-user: ignorant of the necessary >>>>>>> minutiae, but educable. I'm not a developer. I don't yet understand >>>>>>> certain jargon. I'll need to ask questions that may seem idiotic or >>>>>>> pedantic to some. I ask your indulgence. (Since the community was all >>>>>>> but dead a few days ago, what has anyone still here got to lose by >>>>>>> letting me ask? The trail left by my questions will help and encourage >>>>>>> others like me.)</preface> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Shane -- Forgive my ignorance. When I go to >>>>>>> <https://sourceforge.net/projects/slashcode/files/Bundle-Slash>, I see >>>>>>> "Looking for the latest version? Download Bundle-Slash-2.52.tar.gz >>>>>>> (2.1 KB)". Then I see the litany of versions prior to 2.52. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I understand packages with version numbers. I don't understand what >>>>>>> you mean by version "HEAD", the "last SCM-Head," or where to go to >>>>>>> "get from src." Could you or someone explain? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> == George >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Shane Zatezalo <sh...@lo...> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> Distro: CentOS >>>>>>>> Slash-version: HEAD (from src, never package) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Don't use the 2.2.6, it is just *too* ancient to bother with. And the >>>>>>>> upgrade from 2.26 -> SCM-Head was just brutal. Work from the last >>>>>>>> SCM-Head. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If I recall I'd start off buy getting perl, mod_perl and apache >>>>>>>> compiled >>>>>>>> togther and functionally running. >>>>>>>> While I was doing that, I'd (in another term window) install mySQL >>>>>>>> (and >>>>>>>> in another window) start installing CPAN modules (follow the >>>>>>>> cpan-instructions from slash-HEAD by the book). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Once all that was done, I could make install and then >>>>>>>> 'install-slashsite' at will. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> The modern datacenter depends on network connectivity to access >>>>> resources >>>>> and provide services. The best practices for maximizing a physical >>>>> server's >>>>> connectivity to a physical network are well understood - see how these >>>>> rules translate into the virtual world? >>>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnlfb >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Slashcode-general mailing list >>>>> Sla...@li... >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> The modern datacenter depends on network connectivity to access resources >>>> and provide services. The best practices for maximizing a physical >>>> server's >>>> connectivity to a physical network are well understood - see how these >>>> rules translate into the virtual world? >>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnlfb >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Slashcode-general mailing list >>>> Sla...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general >>>> >>> >>> ---- >>> Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. >>> sc...@hu... http://www.hub.org >>> >>> Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:sc...@hu... >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> The modern datacenter depends on network connectivity to access resources >> and provide services. The best practices for maximizing a physical server's >> connectivity to a physical network are well understood - see how these >> rules translate into the virtual world? >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnlfb >> _______________________________________________ >> Slashcode-general mailing list >> Sla...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general >> > > ---- > Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. > sc...@hu... http://www.hub.org > > Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:sc...@hu... > ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. sc...@hu... http://www.hub.org Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:sc...@hu... |
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From: Marc G. F. <sc...@hu...> - 2011-02-07 16:05:56
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On Mon, 7 Feb 2011, Shane Zatezalo wrote: > > Yes, I saw Jamie's comment. Consequently, I went and grabbed the newer > code via SF, and merged it w/ the repo that I created on github. I > think, given the fact that we now now how to access the newer stuff on > SF.Net, the need for the repo I created on Github is gone. I'll leave it > be for a day or two, incase someone wants to pull from it, just to get > the latest in a simple pull, but then I think I'm going to delete the > repo entirely. NOpe, we need the new one ... the old one, we cannot commit to, so its static ... if we are going to do work on it, and create proper releases, we need someting we can commit to ... > > > On Feb 7, 2011, at 10:27 AM, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > >> On Sun, 6 Feb 2011, Shane Zatezalo wrote: >> >>> I vote put it on github. >>> >>> I did this: >>> >>> git clone git://slashcode.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/slashcode/slashcode >>> >>> per the info I found on this: >>> >>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/slashcode/develop >>> >>> and rec'd the "nonexistent ref" which I believe is the same problem with their repo that existed in 2009. Sadly, even the browse-code is broke: http://slashcode.cvs.sourceforge.net/slashcode >> >> See note from Jamie, but not a problem, just a mis-understanding on what hte error means :( So we do have a good starting point on this ... >> >> >>> >>> I'm fairly certain I've got a checkout somewhere of the slashcode-head as it was immediately before they stopped committing to it. I'll look around. If I find it I'll throw it up on Github. >>> >>> Shane >>> >>> PS Actual output: >>> >>> coolio:tmp shane$ git clone git://slashcode.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/slashcode/slashcode >>> Cloning into slashcode... >>> remote: Counting objects: 93881, done. >>> remote: Compressing objects: 100% (21517/21517), done. >>> remote: Total 93881 (delta 69417), reused 93881 (delta 69417) >>> Receiving objects: 100% (93881/93881), 14.93 MiB | 696 KiB/s, done. >>> Resolving deltas: 100% (69417/69417), done. >>> warning: remote HEAD refers to nonexistent ref, unable to checkout. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Feb 6, 2011, at 4:33 PM, George Taft wrote: >>> >>>> Cliff, thanks for the explanation, and the offer. Shane, thanks for >>>> the advice on the Slash component of an install. >>>> >>>> When I get a copy of the repository that Cliff offered, I will try to >>>> document unambiguously my effort to make an install from scratch on a >>>> stock install of CentOS 5.5. >>>> >>>> I admit that I don't really get Git in the first place. Even so, it >>>> seems to me that the overall benefit on the Slashcode project of the >>>> move to Git was, shall we say, less than optimal? I wonder what others >>>> think, and how a future fork of the project should conduct itself. >>>> >>>> == George >>>> >>>> On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Clifton Wood <cli...@gm...> wrote: >>>>> "HEAD" means the latest revision published by whatever source code manager >>>>> you are using. If Slashcode has moved to git and git is working (last time I >>>>> tried, which was 6-10 months ago, git didn't work). I still think I have >>>>> that repository, somewhere. If I do, I'll tar it and drop it to you via >>>>> email. >>>>> - Cliff >>>>> On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 3:06 PM, George Taft <geo...@gm...> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> <preface>I want to say against any future critiques: my goal is to be >>>>>> a publisher. I want to run a large community discussion. I think the >>>>>> moderation system of Slashdot, realized in whatever eventual form, is >>>>>> the only one for my purposes. >>>>>> >>>>>> It should be no surprise that I'm much more of an editor than a coder. >>>>>> Ironically, though, the Slashcode community itself is in need of >>>>>> reinvigoration, which makes someone like me perhaps more useful at the >>>>>> moment than someone who can field-strip a Perl rifle. >>>>>> >>>>>> Please consider me an enlightened end-user: ignorant of the necessary >>>>>> minutiae, but educable. I'm not a developer. I don't yet understand >>>>>> certain jargon. I'll need to ask questions that may seem idiotic or >>>>>> pedantic to some. I ask your indulgence. (Since the community was all >>>>>> but dead a few days ago, what has anyone still here got to lose by >>>>>> letting me ask? The trail left by my questions will help and encourage >>>>>> others like me.)</preface> >>>>>> >>>>>> Shane -- Forgive my ignorance. When I go to >>>>>> <https://sourceforge.net/projects/slashcode/files/Bundle-Slash>, I see >>>>>> "Looking for the latest version? Download Bundle-Slash-2.52.tar.gz >>>>>> (2.1 KB)". Then I see the litany of versions prior to 2.52. >>>>>> >>>>>> I understand packages with version numbers. I don't understand what >>>>>> you mean by version "HEAD", the "last SCM-Head," or where to go to >>>>>> "get from src." Could you or someone explain? >>>>>> >>>>>> == George >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Shane Zatezalo <sh...@lo...> wrote: >>>>>>> Distro: CentOS >>>>>>> Slash-version: HEAD (from src, never package) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Don't use the 2.2.6, it is just *too* ancient to bother with. And the >>>>>>> upgrade from 2.26 -> SCM-Head was just brutal. Work from the last SCM-Head. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If I recall I'd start off buy getting perl, mod_perl and apache compiled >>>>>>> togther and functionally running. >>>>>>> While I was doing that, I'd (in another term window) install mySQL (and >>>>>>> in another window) start installing CPAN modules (follow the >>>>>>> cpan-instructions from slash-HEAD by the book). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Once all that was done, I could make install and then >>>>>>> 'install-slashsite' at will. >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> The modern datacenter depends on network connectivity to access resources >>>> and provide services. The best practices for maximizing a physical server's >>>> connectivity to a physical network are well understood - see how these >>>> rules translate into the virtual world? >>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnlfb >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Slashcode-general mailing list >>>> Sla...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> The modern datacenter depends on network connectivity to access resources >>> and provide services. The best practices for maximizing a physical server's >>> connectivity to a physical network are well understood - see how these >>> rules translate into the virtual world? >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnlfb >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Slashcode-general mailing list >>> Sla...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general >>> >> >> ---- >> Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. >> sc...@hu... http://www.hub.org >> >> Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:sc...@hu... > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The modern datacenter depends on network connectivity to access resources > and provide services. The best practices for maximizing a physical server's > connectivity to a physical network are well understood - see how these > rules translate into the virtual world? > http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnlfb > _______________________________________________ > Slashcode-general mailing list > Sla...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general > ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. sc...@hu... http://www.hub.org Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:sc...@hu... |
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From: Shane Z. <sh...@lo...> - 2011-02-07 16:03:36
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Yes, I saw Jamie's comment. Consequently, I went and grabbed the newer code via SF, and merged it w/ the repo that I created on github. I think, given the fact that we now now how to access the newer stuff on SF.Net, the need for the repo I created on Github is gone. I'll leave it be for a day or two, incase someone wants to pull from it, just to get the latest in a simple pull, but then I think I'm going to delete the repo entirely. On Feb 7, 2011, at 10:27 AM, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > On Sun, 6 Feb 2011, Shane Zatezalo wrote: > >> I vote put it on github. >> >> I did this: >> >> git clone git://slashcode.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/slashcode/slashcode >> >> per the info I found on this: >> >> http://sourceforge.net/projects/slashcode/develop >> >> and rec'd the "nonexistent ref" which I believe is the same problem with their repo that existed in 2009. Sadly, even the browse-code is broke: http://slashcode.cvs.sourceforge.net/slashcode > > See note from Jamie, but not a problem, just a mis-understanding on what hte error means :( So we do have a good starting point on this ... > > >> >> I'm fairly certain I've got a checkout somewhere of the slashcode-head as it was immediately before they stopped committing to it. I'll look around. If I find it I'll throw it up on Github. >> >> Shane >> >> PS Actual output: >> >> coolio:tmp shane$ git clone git://slashcode.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/slashcode/slashcode >> Cloning into slashcode... >> remote: Counting objects: 93881, done. >> remote: Compressing objects: 100% (21517/21517), done. >> remote: Total 93881 (delta 69417), reused 93881 (delta 69417) >> Receiving objects: 100% (93881/93881), 14.93 MiB | 696 KiB/s, done. >> Resolving deltas: 100% (69417/69417), done. >> warning: remote HEAD refers to nonexistent ref, unable to checkout. >> >> >> >> On Feb 6, 2011, at 4:33 PM, George Taft wrote: >> >>> Cliff, thanks for the explanation, and the offer. Shane, thanks for >>> the advice on the Slash component of an install. >>> >>> When I get a copy of the repository that Cliff offered, I will try to >>> document unambiguously my effort to make an install from scratch on a >>> stock install of CentOS 5.5. >>> >>> I admit that I don't really get Git in the first place. Even so, it >>> seems to me that the overall benefit on the Slashcode project of the >>> move to Git was, shall we say, less than optimal? I wonder what others >>> think, and how a future fork of the project should conduct itself. >>> >>> == George >>> >>> On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Clifton Wood <cli...@gm...> wrote: >>>> "HEAD" means the latest revision published by whatever source code manager >>>> you are using. If Slashcode has moved to git and git is working (last time I >>>> tried, which was 6-10 months ago, git didn't work). I still think I have >>>> that repository, somewhere. If I do, I'll tar it and drop it to you via >>>> email. >>>> - Cliff >>>> On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 3:06 PM, George Taft <geo...@gm...> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> <preface>I want to say against any future critiques: my goal is to be >>>>> a publisher. I want to run a large community discussion. I think the >>>>> moderation system of Slashdot, realized in whatever eventual form, is >>>>> the only one for my purposes. >>>>> >>>>> It should be no surprise that I'm much more of an editor than a coder. >>>>> Ironically, though, the Slashcode community itself is in need of >>>>> reinvigoration, which makes someone like me perhaps more useful at the >>>>> moment than someone who can field-strip a Perl rifle. >>>>> >>>>> Please consider me an enlightened end-user: ignorant of the necessary >>>>> minutiae, but educable. I'm not a developer. I don't yet understand >>>>> certain jargon. I'll need to ask questions that may seem idiotic or >>>>> pedantic to some. I ask your indulgence. (Since the community was all >>>>> but dead a few days ago, what has anyone still here got to lose by >>>>> letting me ask? The trail left by my questions will help and encourage >>>>> others like me.)</preface> >>>>> >>>>> Shane -- Forgive my ignorance. When I go to >>>>> <https://sourceforge.net/projects/slashcode/files/Bundle-Slash>, I see >>>>> "Looking for the latest version? Download Bundle-Slash-2.52.tar.gz >>>>> (2.1 KB)". Then I see the litany of versions prior to 2.52. >>>>> >>>>> I understand packages with version numbers. I don't understand what >>>>> you mean by version "HEAD", the "last SCM-Head," or where to go to >>>>> "get from src." Could you or someone explain? >>>>> >>>>> == George >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Shane Zatezalo <sh...@lo...> wrote: >>>>>> Distro: CentOS >>>>>> Slash-version: HEAD (from src, never package) >>>>>> >>>>>> Don't use the 2.2.6, it is just *too* ancient to bother with. And the >>>>>> upgrade from 2.26 -> SCM-Head was just brutal. Work from the last SCM-Head. >>>>>> >>>>>> If I recall I'd start off buy getting perl, mod_perl and apache compiled >>>>>> togther and functionally running. >>>>>> While I was doing that, I'd (in another term window) install mySQL (and >>>>>> in another window) start installing CPAN modules (follow the >>>>>> cpan-instructions from slash-HEAD by the book). >>>>>> >>>>>> Once all that was done, I could make install and then >>>>>> 'install-slashsite' at will. >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> The modern datacenter depends on network connectivity to access resources >>> and provide services. The best practices for maximizing a physical server's >>> connectivity to a physical network are well understood - see how these >>> rules translate into the virtual world? >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnlfb >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Slashcode-general mailing list >>> Sla...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> The modern datacenter depends on network connectivity to access resources >> and provide services. The best practices for maximizing a physical server's >> connectivity to a physical network are well understood - see how these >> rules translate into the virtual world? >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnlfb >> _______________________________________________ >> Slashcode-general mailing list >> Sla...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general >> > > ---- > Marc G. 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From: Marc G. F. <sc...@hu...> - 2011-02-07 15:27:15
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On Sun, 6 Feb 2011, Shane Zatezalo wrote: > I vote put it on github. > > I did this: > > git clone git://slashcode.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/slashcode/slashcode > > per the info I found on this: > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/slashcode/develop > > and rec'd the "nonexistent ref" which I believe is the same problem with > their repo that existed in 2009. Sadly, even the browse-code is broke: > http://slashcode.cvs.sourceforge.net/slashcode See note from Jamie, but not a problem, just a mis-understanding on what hte error means :( So we do have a good starting point on this ... > > I'm fairly certain I've got a checkout somewhere of the slashcode-head as it was immediately before they stopped committing to it. I'll look around. If I find it I'll throw it up on Github. > > Shane > > PS Actual output: > > coolio:tmp shane$ git clone git://slashcode.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/slashcode/slashcode > Cloning into slashcode... > remote: Counting objects: 93881, done. > remote: Compressing objects: 100% (21517/21517), done. > remote: Total 93881 (delta 69417), reused 93881 (delta 69417) > Receiving objects: 100% (93881/93881), 14.93 MiB | 696 KiB/s, done. > Resolving deltas: 100% (69417/69417), done. > warning: remote HEAD refers to nonexistent ref, unable to checkout. > > > > On Feb 6, 2011, at 4:33 PM, George Taft wrote: > >> Cliff, thanks for the explanation, and the offer. Shane, thanks for >> the advice on the Slash component of an install. >> >> When I get a copy of the repository that Cliff offered, I will try to >> document unambiguously my effort to make an install from scratch on a >> stock install of CentOS 5.5. >> >> I admit that I don't really get Git in the first place. Even so, it >> seems to me that the overall benefit on the Slashcode project of the >> move to Git was, shall we say, less than optimal? I wonder what others >> think, and how a future fork of the project should conduct itself. >> >> == George >> >> On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Clifton Wood <cli...@gm...> wrote: >>> "HEAD" means the latest revision published by whatever source code manager >>> you are using. If Slashcode has moved to git and git is working (last time I >>> tried, which was 6-10 months ago, git didn't work). I still think I have >>> that repository, somewhere. If I do, I'll tar it and drop it to you via >>> email. >>> - Cliff >>> On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 3:06 PM, George Taft <geo...@gm...> wrote: >>>> >>>> <preface>I want to say against any future critiques: my goal is to be >>>> a publisher. I want to run a large community discussion. I think the >>>> moderation system of Slashdot, realized in whatever eventual form, is >>>> the only one for my purposes. >>>> >>>> It should be no surprise that I'm much more of an editor than a coder. >>>> Ironically, though, the Slashcode community itself is in need of >>>> reinvigoration, which makes someone like me perhaps more useful at the >>>> moment than someone who can field-strip a Perl rifle. >>>> >>>> Please consider me an enlightened end-user: ignorant of the necessary >>>> minutiae, but educable. I'm not a developer. I don't yet understand >>>> certain jargon. I'll need to ask questions that may seem idiotic or >>>> pedantic to some. I ask your indulgence. (Since the community was all >>>> but dead a few days ago, what has anyone still here got to lose by >>>> letting me ask? The trail left by my questions will help and encourage >>>> others like me.)</preface> >>>> >>>> Shane -- Forgive my ignorance. When I go to >>>> <https://sourceforge.net/projects/slashcode/files/Bundle-Slash>, I see >>>> "Looking for the latest version? Download Bundle-Slash-2.52.tar.gz >>>> (2.1 KB)". Then I see the litany of versions prior to 2.52. >>>> >>>> I understand packages with version numbers. I don't understand what >>>> you mean by version "HEAD", the "last SCM-Head," or where to go to >>>> "get from src." Could you or someone explain? >>>> >>>> == George >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Shane Zatezalo <sh...@lo...> wrote: >>>>> Distro: CentOS >>>>> Slash-version: HEAD (from src, never package) >>>>> >>>>> Don't use the 2.2.6, it is just *too* ancient to bother with. And the >>>>> upgrade from 2.26 -> SCM-Head was just brutal. Work from the last SCM-Head. >>>>> >>>>> If I recall I'd start off buy getting perl, mod_perl and apache compiled >>>>> togther and functionally running. >>>>> While I was doing that, I'd (in another term window) install mySQL (and >>>>> in another window) start installing CPAN modules (follow the >>>>> cpan-instructions from slash-HEAD by the book). >>>>> >>>>> Once all that was done, I could make install and then >>>>> 'install-slashsite' at will. >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> The modern datacenter depends on network connectivity to access resources >> and provide services. The best practices for maximizing a physical server's >> connectivity to a physical network are well understood - see how these >> rules translate into the virtual world? >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnlfb >> _______________________________________________ >> Slashcode-general mailing list >> Sla...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The modern datacenter depends on network connectivity to access resources > and provide services. The best practices for maximizing a physical server's > connectivity to a physical network are well understood - see how these > rules translate into the virtual world? > http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnlfb > _______________________________________________ > Slashcode-general mailing list > Sla...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general > ---- Marc G. 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From: Marc G. F. <sc...@hu...> - 2011-02-07 15:26:36
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Ah, that would explain it ... I suspect there are alot of us out there that weren't aware of that and figured that the git repo was just plain broken :( That definitely gives a better starting point then ... thank you ... On Mon, 7 Feb 2011, Jamie McCarthy wrote: > On Feb 7, 2011, at 9:50 AM, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > >> I get: >> >> dev# git clone >> git://slashcode.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/slashcode/slashcode >> Cloning into slashcode... >> remote: Counting objects: 93881, done. >> remote: Compressing objects: 100% (21517/21517), done. >> remote: Total 93881 (delta 69417), reused 93881 (delta 69417) >> Receiving objects: 100% (93881/93881), 14.93 MiB | 1.41 MiB/s, done. >> Resolving deltas: 100% (69417/69417), done. >> warning: remote HEAD refers to nonexistent ref, unable to checkout. >> >> >> When I try to clone that ... please advise ... > > That's because the repo on sf.net doesn't have a 'master' branch, that being the default branch name, so git doesn't know which version of the repo you want to look at. (Silly git. There's only one branch/tag available.) > > So after you clone it, do a > > git checkout live > > to switch to the live branch. > > Also, I just checked: the sf.net repo does have a great deal of code more than the one Shane mentioned. I can't tell you how many development weeks "a great deal" represents, but it's over 40K lines of diff :) > > -- > Jamie McCarthy > jam...@gm... > ja...@mc... > 269-267-2008 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The modern datacenter depends on network connectivity to access resources > and provide services. The best practices for maximizing a physical server's > connectivity to a physical network are well understood - see how these > rules translate into the virtual world? > http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnlfb > _______________________________________________ > Slashcode-general mailing list > Sla...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general > ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. sc...@hu... http://www.hub.org Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:sc...@hu... |
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From: Jamie M. <ja...@mc...> - 2011-02-07 14:58:27
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On Feb 7, 2011, at 9:50 AM, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > I get: > > dev# git clone > git://slashcode.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/slashcode/slashcode > Cloning into slashcode... > remote: Counting objects: 93881, done. > remote: Compressing objects: 100% (21517/21517), done. > remote: Total 93881 (delta 69417), reused 93881 (delta 69417) > Receiving objects: 100% (93881/93881), 14.93 MiB | 1.41 MiB/s, done. > Resolving deltas: 100% (69417/69417), done. > warning: remote HEAD refers to nonexistent ref, unable to checkout. > > > When I try to clone that ... please advise ... That's because the repo on sf.net doesn't have a 'master' branch, that being the default branch name, so git doesn't know which version of the repo you want to look at. (Silly git. There's only one branch/tag available.) So after you clone it, do a git checkout live to switch to the live branch. Also, I just checked: the sf.net repo does have a great deal of code more than the one Shane mentioned. I can't tell you how many development weeks "a great deal" represents, but it's over 40K lines of diff :) -- Jamie McCarthy jam...@gm... ja...@mc... 269-267-2008 |
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From: Marc G. F. <sc...@hu...> - 2011-02-07 14:50:29
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I get: dev# git clone git://slashcode.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/slashcode/slashcode Cloning into slashcode... remote: Counting objects: 93881, done. remote: Compressing objects: 100% (21517/21517), done. remote: Total 93881 (delta 69417), reused 93881 (delta 69417) Receiving objects: 100% (93881/93881), 14.93 MiB | 1.41 MiB/s, done. Resolving deltas: 100% (69417/69417), done. warning: remote HEAD refers to nonexistent ref, unable to checkout. When I try to clone that ... please advise ... On Mon, 7 Feb 2011, Jamie McCarthy wrote: > On Feb 7, 2011, at 1:16 AM, Shane Zatezalo wrote: > >> Here ya go, this was the last CVS-Head that I've got >> >> https://github.com/lottadot/slashcode.git >> >> you can grab it with a >> >> git clone https://github.com/lottadot/slashcode.git > > I think > > git clone git://slashcode.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/slashcode/slashcode > > is more recent, though I don't know how much more, I only checked its very last commit. > > FWIW, Slashdot has run for years on CentOS and MySQL 5.0.x, and if you follow the INSTALL file to the letter, last time I checked, it will install. It's an exceedingly complex but exceedingly-well-documented installation process. > > -- > Jamie McCarthy > jam...@gm... > ja...@mc... > 269-267-2008 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The modern datacenter depends on network connectivity to access resources > and provide services. The best practices for maximizing a physical server's > connectivity to a physical network are well understood - see how these > rules translate into the virtual world? > http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnlfb > _______________________________________________ > Slashcode-general mailing list > Sla...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general > ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. sc...@hu... http://www.hub.org Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:sc...@hu... |
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From: Jamie M. <ja...@mc...> - 2011-02-07 14:41:18
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On Feb 7, 2011, at 1:16 AM, Shane Zatezalo wrote: > Here ya go, this was the last CVS-Head that I've got > > https://github.com/lottadot/slashcode.git > > you can grab it with a > > git clone https://github.com/lottadot/slashcode.git I think git clone git://slashcode.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/slashcode/slashcode is more recent, though I don't know how much more, I only checked its very last commit. FWIW, Slashdot has run for years on CentOS and MySQL 5.0.x, and if you follow the INSTALL file to the letter, last time I checked, it will install. It's an exceedingly complex but exceedingly-well-documented installation process. -- Jamie McCarthy jam...@gm... ja...@mc... 269-267-2008 |
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From: Shane Z. <sh...@lo...> - 2011-02-07 06:16:37
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Here ya go, this was the last CVS-Head that I've got https://github.com/lottadot/slashcode.git you can grab it with a git clone https://github.com/lottadot/slashcode.git Shane On Feb 6, 2011, at 7:35 AM, George Taft wrote: > Tell you what. This is slashcode-general, after all. Whoever's still > here is interested in the functionality of Slash, regardless of what > form it takes. > > Some of us, however few, think the original Perl code may be worth > saving. A few others think Slash's key functionality should be pursued > in other platforms. And a few others think that the set of value that > Slash represented -- which is more than just its moderation -- is > dead, gone and not coming back. > > To the last, I say, if you feel that strongly, please unsubscribe and > drop us a farewell note; if you stay, don't badmouth whatever efforts > others might say they want to put in. > > To those who think other platforms should be used: you may be right, > and you may be proven right shortly. If that's the way that people > here decide to go, then perhaps slashcode-general can still be used to > pursue that functionality in, say, Drupal. > > To everyone, I say, though: there is this existing code base. It IS > being actively maintained, just not entirely open-source. The > maintainers are not trying to keep it from being open-source; they > just don't have the time to do things like upload the latest revision > to the repo, let alone to write the kind of documentation that would > help people like me install an instance of Slash successfully using > currently-maintained platforms. > > There are at least three people who have contacted me privately saying > they all have limited time, but they'd still like to contribute to a > project like this however they can. That's enough for me. > > I'd like to thank everyone for contributing to this thread. Even those > who were negative contributed crucial knowledge. I'd also like to see > this thread end. I'm starting a new one for people who are still > interested in Slashcode, in general. I hope that you can contribute to > the knowledge base that this project needs so badly. > > == George > > On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 12:48 PM, T. J. Brumfield <end...@gm...> wrote: >> http://drupal.org/project/slashcomments >> >> Someone already started on one. Apparently it works in modding posts up and >> down, but there is no framework for assigning moderation points in the first >> place. Someone could finish that off. >> >> On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 6:04 AM, Steve Perkins <li...@st...> >> wrote: >>> >>> I would never tell an interested person to *not* work on a >>> project. However, with there being dozens of viable and thriving CMS >>> systems out there today... I honestly believe your resources would be >>> better spent in developing a plugin for one (or more) of those. >>> >>> The main selling point of Slash was (is) the moderation system. >>> However, it's not *that* big a task to add similar moderation to a CMS >>> through a plugin. Maintaining the whole of Slash for this one feature >>> is like a car maker keeping an old model in production for its great >>> dashboard layout. Few people are going to buy a car based on that >>> criteria alone... and it would be so much easier to copy the dashboard >>> layout into contemporary models. >>> >>> This second point could ruffle feathers... but not only has the >>> Slash developer community dwindled, the larger Perl web development >>> community isn't what it was 10 years ago either. I keep my skills sharp >>> enough to tweak old legacy stuff here and there, but in the year 2011 I >>> would never commit to any major new Perl 5 initiative. You arguably >>> have Python as the main general-purpose Perl successor, Ruby is popular >>> among the more "artsy" crowd, and there's Java for people whose primary >>> job is writing business software. >>> >>> However, the lion's share of "mod_perl" stuff has gone to PHP. >>> Yeah, it's an ugly hack of a language... but so was Perl! Perl was >>> simply the ugly hack that most of us started out on and grew comfortable >>> with. The largest plugin-based CMS systems are written in PHP, and that >>> developer community is large and vibrant. You have to separate a lot of >>> wheat from the chaff with those guys, but that was always true with Perl >>> developers too. >>> >>> If you found one or two motivated PHP coders (or hell, just learn >>> it yourself!)... you could probably have Slash-style moderation in a >>> Drupal or Wordpress plugin within weeks. There may already be plugins >>> that are close, and could be forked and modified to fill the gaps. The >>> work would be easier, and you would have a larger audience of possible >>> users (whereas nobody's going to drop Drupal for Slash). >>> >>> Best of luck in whatever direction you pursue! >>> >>> Steve >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2/4/2011 5:13 AM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: >>>> If you search through the archives, you'd see I was a regular poster >>>> on this list.....when it lived. Honestly, this little discussion is >>>> probably the most traffic the list has seen in half a decade. >>>> >>>>> From what I remember, the slash code guys basically gave the >>>> impression that they were never going to put together another tar ball >>>> release (and I dont think they ever have) and as for updates for the >>>> community......good luck. >>>> >>>> So, that is when I decided to leave and finally spent one weekend and >>>> came up with SQL scripts to convert my stories and users to word >>>> press. >>>> >>>> Protest? No. I'd rather think myself as a person warning others that >>>> slash code is a dead end. That when I switched to word press, I had >>>> joined a vibrant community where there were plugins. Documentation on >>>> the codebase. Upgrades that were easy. Themes. Easy customizations. >>>> Etc. And the performance on my server was as good if not better than >>>> before. Compare that to slash code. There is no community. The slash >>>> code site was last updated.....2009? and before that there was a post >>>> in 2008......And the last post on slash code was basically saying we >>>> aren't supporting it, but here is where you can get the code. Good >>>> luck. >>>> >>>> I think I'd rather take my chances with php and word press cause there >>>> are more than about 10 people who use it.... >>>> >>>> >>>> On Friday, February 4, 2011, George Taft<geo...@gm...> >>>> wrote: >>>>> Eric -- I appreciate your frustration with Slashcode. Perhaps like >>>>> Scott you had forgotten the list existed. Nevertheless, you responded >>>>> to my initial post, not once but four times. >>>>> >>>>> I guess my only question to you would be, why reply unless you still >>>>> cared? Methinks you protest too much. If you're a coder, a new effort >>>>> to revive the project might be able to use your help. == George >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:10 AM, Eric Dannewitz<eri...@ja...> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Reason why I ditched slashcode was that it was never updated, and it >>>>>> was >>>>>> never documented. The upgrade paths from the builds was a nightmare. >>>>>> Stuff >>>>>> would work, then not. >>>>>> Migrating to wordpress has resulted in a faster site, and I can take >>>>>> advantage of a huge supply of plugins and interest in the platform. >>>>>> And the >>>>>> upgrade path to new versions is well documented and easy >>>>>> There isn't anything remotely like with slashcode. Ever. Since 98 or >>>>>> whenever. It was a pain until 2008 when I decided to figure out how to >>>>>> migrate my stuff to wordpress. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iSomething >>>>>> On Feb 3, 2011, at 9:03 PM, Clifton Wood<cli...@gm...> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> The problem here is that we'd spend more time making Drupal into >>>>>> Slashcode >>>>>> than making a better Slashcode. >>>>>> - Cliff >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 10:28 PM, T. J. >>>>>> Brumfield<end...@gm...> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> There are some Drupal modules that were started to add Slashcode >>>>>>> style >>>>>>> features, such as Slashcode moderation. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://drupal.org/project/slashcomments >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In a perfect world, I think Slashcode might be better off recreated >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> Drupal 7. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There are far more extensions/modules for it. It is mature, stable, >>>>>>> tested >>>>>>> and well used. It would be easier to get support for. I would >>>>>>> seriously kill >>>>>>> for a slick, Drupal 7 powered Slashcode of the future. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 8:44 PM, A H<hol...@gm...> wrote: >>>>>>>> And can Wordpress do moderation points like Slash? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The moderation system was what attracted me to Slash but I had to >>>>>>>> give >>>>>>>> up on it - too many undocumented "features". >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think it's still a relevant format and I would love to see it >>>>>>>> flourish. My contribution would need to be in documentation because >>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>> am not a programmer. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -Andrew >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 8:39 PM, Eric >>>>>>>> Dannewitz<eri...@ja...> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> I'd ditch slash for wordpress. I did and have never regretted it >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iSomething >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Feb 3, 2011, at 4:23 PM, George Taft<geo...@gm...> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> An Open Letter to the Developers of Slashdot, and What's Left of >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> Slashcode Community -- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'm an avid reader of Slashdot. I don't comment much, but I've >>>>>>>>>> always >>>>>>>>>> been impressed by Slashdot's moderation system. It manages what >>>>>>>>>> should >>>>>>>>>> be an unmanageable task: ensuring a civil discussion among >>>>>>>>>> thousands >>>>>>>>>> and thousands of users. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I've come into a situation where I now need a system much like >>>>>>>>>> Slashdot's: an extensible and scalable readership-moderated online >>>>>>>>>> discussion forum. Lo and behold, Slashdot make Slash open source >>>>>>>>>> years >>>>>>>>>> ago. They even got an O'Reilly book. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> But Slashcode was never the priority of the coders. The last >>>>>>>>>> official >>>>>>>>>> release is, what, nine years old? There's been much more modern >>>>>>>>>> code >>>>>>>>>> released, but even that's a couple of years old. What little >>>>>>>>>> traces I >>>>>>>>>> can find of other sites using Slash involve those sites migrating >>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>> something else. This message is evidently the first post on >>>>>>>>>> slashcode-general in almost a year. The coders have written that >>>>>>>>>> management of the open-source branch of the codebase is still not >>>>>>>>>> their priority. And so the userbase has almos >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> The modern datacenter depends on network connectivity to access >>>> resources >>>> and provide services. The best practices for maximizing a physical >>>> server's >>>> connectivity to a physical network are well understood - see how these >>>> rules translate into the virtual world? >>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnlfb >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Slashcode-general mailing list >>>> Sla...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> The modern datacenter depends on network connectivity to access resources >>> and provide services. The best practices for maximizing a physical >>> server's >>> connectivity to a physical network are well understood - see how these >>> rules translate into the virtual world? >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnlfb >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Slashcode-general mailing list >>> Sla...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general >> >> >> >> -- >> "I'm questioning my education >> Rewind and what does it show? >> Could be, the truth it becomes you >> I'm a seed, wondering why it grows" >> -- Pearl Jam, Education >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> The modern datacenter depends on network connectivity to access resources >> and provide services. The best practices for maximizing a physical server's >> connectivity to a physical network are well understood - see how these >> rules translate into the virtual world? >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnlfb >> _______________________________________________ >> Slashcode-general mailing list >> Sla...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general >> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The modern datacenter depends on network connectivity to access resources > and provide services. The best practices for maximizing a physical server's > connectivity to a physical network are well understood - see how these > rules translate into the virtual world? > http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnlfb > _______________________________________________ > Slashcode-general mailing list > Sla...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general |
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From: Shane Z. <sh...@lo...> - 2011-02-07 03:02:23
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I vote put it on github. I did this: git clone git://slashcode.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/slashcode/slashcode per the info I found on this: http://sourceforge.net/projects/slashcode/develop and rec'd the "nonexistent ref" which I believe is the same problem with their repo that existed in 2009. Sadly, even the browse-code is broke: http://slashcode.cvs.sourceforge.net/slashcode I'm fairly certain I've got a checkout somewhere of the slashcode-head as it was immediately before they stopped committing to it. I'll look around. If I find it I'll throw it up on Github. Shane PS Actual output: coolio:tmp shane$ git clone git://slashcode.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/slashcode/slashcode Cloning into slashcode... remote: Counting objects: 93881, done. remote: Compressing objects: 100% (21517/21517), done. remote: Total 93881 (delta 69417), reused 93881 (delta 69417) Receiving objects: 100% (93881/93881), 14.93 MiB | 696 KiB/s, done. Resolving deltas: 100% (69417/69417), done. warning: remote HEAD refers to nonexistent ref, unable to checkout. On Feb 6, 2011, at 4:33 PM, George Taft wrote: > Cliff, thanks for the explanation, and the offer. Shane, thanks for > the advice on the Slash component of an install. > > When I get a copy of the repository that Cliff offered, I will try to > document unambiguously my effort to make an install from scratch on a > stock install of CentOS 5.5. > > I admit that I don't really get Git in the first place. Even so, it > seems to me that the overall benefit on the Slashcode project of the > move to Git was, shall we say, less than optimal? I wonder what others > think, and how a future fork of the project should conduct itself. > > == George > > On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Clifton Wood <cli...@gm...> wrote: >> "HEAD" means the latest revision published by whatever source code manager >> you are using. If Slashcode has moved to git and git is working (last time I >> tried, which was 6-10 months ago, git didn't work). I still think I have >> that repository, somewhere. If I do, I'll tar it and drop it to you via >> email. >> - Cliff >> On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 3:06 PM, George Taft <geo...@gm...> wrote: >>> >>> <preface>I want to say against any future critiques: my goal is to be >>> a publisher. I want to run a large community discussion. I think the >>> moderation system of Slashdot, realized in whatever eventual form, is >>> the only one for my purposes. >>> >>> It should be no surprise that I'm much more of an editor than a coder. >>> Ironically, though, the Slashcode community itself is in need of >>> reinvigoration, which makes someone like me perhaps more useful at the >>> moment than someone who can field-strip a Perl rifle. >>> >>> Please consider me an enlightened end-user: ignorant of the necessary >>> minutiae, but educable. I'm not a developer. I don't yet understand >>> certain jargon. I'll need to ask questions that may seem idiotic or >>> pedantic to some. I ask your indulgence. (Since the community was all >>> but dead a few days ago, what has anyone still here got to lose by >>> letting me ask? The trail left by my questions will help and encourage >>> others like me.)</preface> >>> >>> Shane -- Forgive my ignorance. When I go to >>> <https://sourceforge.net/projects/slashcode/files/Bundle-Slash>, I see >>> "Looking for the latest version? Download Bundle-Slash-2.52.tar.gz >>> (2.1 KB)". Then I see the litany of versions prior to 2.52. >>> >>> I understand packages with version numbers. I don't understand what >>> you mean by version "HEAD", the "last SCM-Head," or where to go to >>> "get from src." Could you or someone explain? >>> >>> == George >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Shane Zatezalo <sh...@lo...> wrote: >>>> Distro: CentOS >>>> Slash-version: HEAD (from src, never package) >>>> >>>> Don't use the 2.2.6, it is just *too* ancient to bother with. And the >>>> upgrade from 2.26 -> SCM-Head was just brutal. Work from the last SCM-Head. >>>> >>>> If I recall I'd start off buy getting perl, mod_perl and apache compiled >>>> togther and functionally running. >>>> While I was doing that, I'd (in another term window) install mySQL (and >>>> in another window) start installing CPAN modules (follow the >>>> cpan-instructions from slash-HEAD by the book). >>>> >>>> Once all that was done, I could make install and then >>>> 'install-slashsite' at will. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The modern datacenter depends on network connectivity to access resources > and provide services. The best practices for maximizing a physical server's > connectivity to a physical network are well understood - see how these > rules translate into the virtual world? > http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnlfb > _______________________________________________ > Slashcode-general mailing list > Sla...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general |
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From: George T. <geo...@gm...> - 2011-02-06 21:33:53
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Cliff, thanks for the explanation, and the offer. Shane, thanks for the advice on the Slash component of an install. When I get a copy of the repository that Cliff offered, I will try to document unambiguously my effort to make an install from scratch on a stock install of CentOS 5.5. I admit that I don't really get Git in the first place. Even so, it seems to me that the overall benefit on the Slashcode project of the move to Git was, shall we say, less than optimal? I wonder what others think, and how a future fork of the project should conduct itself. == George On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Clifton Wood <cli...@gm...> wrote: > "HEAD" means the latest revision published by whatever source code manager > you are using. If Slashcode has moved to git and git is working (last time I > tried, which was 6-10 months ago, git didn't work). I still think I have > that repository, somewhere. If I do, I'll tar it and drop it to you via > email. > - Cliff > On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 3:06 PM, George Taft <geo...@gm...> wrote: >> >> <preface>I want to say against any future critiques: my goal is to be >> a publisher. I want to run a large community discussion. I think the >> moderation system of Slashdot, realized in whatever eventual form, is >> the only one for my purposes. >> >> It should be no surprise that I'm much more of an editor than a coder. >> Ironically, though, the Slashcode community itself is in need of >> reinvigoration, which makes someone like me perhaps more useful at the >> moment than someone who can field-strip a Perl rifle. >> >> Please consider me an enlightened end-user: ignorant of the necessary >> minutiae, but educable. I'm not a developer. I don't yet understand >> certain jargon. I'll need to ask questions that may seem idiotic or >> pedantic to some. I ask your indulgence. (Since the community was all >> but dead a few days ago, what has anyone still here got to lose by >> letting me ask? The trail left by my questions will help and encourage >> others like me.)</preface> >> >> Shane -- Forgive my ignorance. When I go to >> <https://sourceforge.net/projects/slashcode/files/Bundle-Slash>, I see >> "Looking for the latest version? Download Bundle-Slash-2.52.tar.gz >> (2.1 KB)". Then I see the litany of versions prior to 2.52. >> >> I understand packages with version numbers. I don't understand what >> you mean by version "HEAD", the "last SCM-Head," or where to go to >> "get from src." Could you or someone explain? >> >> == George >> >> >> On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Shane Zatezalo <sh...@lo...> wrote: >> > Distro: CentOS >> > Slash-version: HEAD (from src, never package) >> > >> > Don't use the 2.2.6, it is just *too* ancient to bother with. And the >> > upgrade from 2.26 -> SCM-Head was just brutal. Work from the last SCM-Head. >> > >> > If I recall I'd start off buy getting perl, mod_perl and apache compiled >> > togther and functionally running. >> > While I was doing that, I'd (in another term window) install mySQL (and >> > in another window) start installing CPAN modules (follow the >> > cpan-instructions from slash-HEAD by the book). >> > >> > Once all that was done, I could make install and then >> > 'install-slashsite' at will. |
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