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Re: [Slashcode-general] DBIx-Password: Access denied for virtual user to database

From: Marc G. F. <sc...@hu...> - 2011-02-14 17:05:50

On Mon, 14 Feb 2011, Jamie McCarthy wrote:

> On Feb 14, 2011, at 10:32 AM, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 14 Feb 2011, George Taft wrote:
>>
>>> I've tried, and it still fails, just like it does at Perl Monks:
>>> <http://www.perlmonks.org/bare/?node_id=758739>. I wouldn't know how to
>>> write/install a replacement for the functionality of ParallelUA
>
> FWIW...
>
> LWP::UserAgent::Parallel is only used by checkForOpenProxy(). That's the 
> function that scans a few common HTTP proxy ports on the current user's 
> IP address to see if that IP is running an open proxy, and if so, limits 
> access in some way. As I recall, you can't post anonymously from a proxy 
> or something like that.
>
> It's been moderately-helpful on Slashdot, but it's not an absolute 
> necessity or anything. If you want, strip out that function and calls to 
> it, delete Slash::Custom::ParUserAgent, and remove L::U::P from the list 
> of install requirements.

Since I know it is working, rather try and debug it and keep the 
functinality :)

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Re: [Slashcode-general] Getting frustrated ...

From: Jamie M. <ja...@mc...> - 2011-02-14 17:04:17

On Feb 14, 2011, at 10:35 AM, Marc G. Fournier wrote:

>> On Feb 11, 2011, at 9:59 PM, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
>> 
>>> Okay, there has gotta be a few things I'm missing here that are obvious to soemone that has used this extensively ...
>>> 
>>> 1. where are files cached?  Do I seriously have to restart the apache server each and every time I make a change, or is there a file I can touch / remove on the file system to force it to reload?

By default, mod_perl will notice your .pl files changing and reimport them. If you want changes to your .pm files also to be reimported, and are willing to pay the performance penalty, check out Apache::Reload:

<http://perl.apache.org/docs/1.0/guide/porting.html#Using_Apache__Reload>

Templates are written from disk into the DB by template-tool, and edited in the DB at runtime by a couple places in Slash, including the admin template editing pages. If you're editing templates on disk, I guess the DB would be a "cache" of that which you flush by running template-tool. Apache also keeps its own cache of the templates in the DB, grep on template_cache_size for more on that.

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Re: [Slashcode-general] DBIx-Password: Access denied for virtual user to database

From: Jamie M. <ja...@mc...> - 2011-02-14 16:58:02

On Feb 14, 2011, at 10:32 AM, Marc G. Fournier wrote:

> On Mon, 14 Feb 2011, George Taft wrote:
> 
>> I've tried, and it still fails, just like it does at Perl Monks:
>> <http://www.perlmonks.org/bare/?node_id=758739>. I wouldn't know how to
>> write/install a replacement for the functionality of ParallelUA

FWIW...

LWP::UserAgent::Parallel is only used by checkForOpenProxy(). That's the function that scans a few common HTTP proxy ports on the current user's IP address to see if that IP is running an open proxy, and if so, limits access in some way. As I recall, you can't post anonymously from a proxy or something like that.

It's been moderately-helpful on Slashdot, but it's not an absolute necessity or anything. If you want, strip out that function and calls to it, delete Slash::Custom::ParUserAgent, and remove L::U::P from the list of install requirements.

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Re: [Slashcode-general] DBIx-Password: Access denied for virtual user to database

From: Shane Z. <sh...@lo...> - 2011-02-14 15:49:44

Interestingly enough, CentOS/Redhat/Fedora is _all_ I have ever run it on (CentOS/Redhat in production). Fedora for dev at times. Mac OSX for most dev, to be honest.

If I recall correctly, the *big* thing was getting apache and mod_perl compiled together correctly.

 Shane

On Feb 14, 2011, at 10:32 AM, Marc G. Fournier wrote:

>> Getting Slash running
>> on CentOS doesn't seem worth pursuing at the moment.

Re: [Slashcode-general] Getting frustrated ...

From: Marc G. F. <sc...@hu...> - 2011-02-14 15:35:54

okay, this definitely helps ... time to do some code tracing, see if I 
can't figure out what is breaking, and where ... it either in the sql 
query, or in the caching ...

On Mon, 14 Feb 2011, Shane Zatezalo wrote:

> As for caching: Slashcode isn't designed to be constantly restarted over and over to add things. It's designed for stability and uptime. Caching is done via the Slash object (ie within Apache), minimally, and then they use memcached, and eventually mysql's own caching. So you would tend to either:
>
> 1) attach a file to a story
> 2) put a file into images.example.com and reference it in your story
> 3) create your own theme, put that into your own SCM repo, install the slashsite using your theme. then reference the file(s) via html/css. test/rinse, repeat, when it's done you deploy to production. when your theme gets an update, you run make install on all webheads/fileservers involved.
>
> As for blocks/portals: I'm sorry, I don't remember. It's been too long. I do recall they were confusing to me, too. Google it there's got to be prior discussions about it out there.
>
> Ordernum: is how the ORDER BY .... is done.
>
> Looking at your screenshot, the skin, the type, and the block_id I recall being pertinent. Because you could set a block to show in more then one skin. I do not remember why there is a pulldown that has 'portald' as allowable value for 'type', but then a 'portal' checkbox, too.
>
> Shane
>
>
> On Feb 11, 2011, at 9:59 PM, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
>
>>
>> Okay, there has gotta be a few things I'm missing here that are obvious to soemone that has used this extensively ...
>>
>> 1. where are files cached?  Do I seriously have to restart the apache server each and every time I make a change, or is there a file I can touch / remove on the file system to force it to reload?
>>
>> 2. how do blocks / portals work?  For instance, I just changed a single value in Blocks -> poll: OrderNum from 2 -> 3 ... not the poll is gone .. change it back to 2, and its *still* gone ... I've even tried restarting the web servrer, jsut in case ti was cached somewhere in there, and nothing ...
>>
>> 3. and what *is* the Ordernum?  Can two portals have the same Ordernum?
>>
>> All I want to do right now is getting a portal/RSS feed in place that will pull in thte commit messages from Git ... the portal seems to be right, but I can't get it to display ... :(  see http://hub.org/~scrappy/haxlash.png to see how I have it setup, and please point me to the errors in  my knowlege :(
>>
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Re: [Slashcode-general] DBIx-Password: Access denied for virtual user to database

From: Marc G. F. <sc...@hu...> - 2011-02-14 15:32:30

On Mon, 14 Feb 2011, George Taft wrote:

> I've tried, and it still fails, just like it does at Perl Monks:
> <http://www.perlmonks.org/bare/?node_id=758739>. I wouldn't know how to
> write/install a replacement for the functionality of ParallelUA like the
> page recommends.
> I don't even know what I was talking about below when I said versions
> "5.814, 5.816 and 5.830" of perl. Seriously lost here. Getting Slash running
> on CentOS doesn't seem worth pursuing at the moment. Is there any version of
> Linux that will successfully install, or do I have to use FreeBSD?

I don't use anything but FreeBSD, so can't answer on that one :)

But, I am curious about this ... would you be comfortable with providing 
me access to that install to take a look?  Or, if not, can you do the 
following, as root, on the machine:

typescript /tmp/debug
perl -v
<enter in all the commands you type to try and install the module>
exit

and then email me the contents of /tmp/debug directly (or put it somewhere 
on teh web I can access) ...


> == George
> 
> On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Marc G. Fournier <sc...@hu...> wrote:
>       On Sun, 13 Feb 2011, George Taft wrote:
>
>       It looks like ParallelUserAgent broke after perl 5.814;
>       5.816 and 5.830 were
>       both reported as having it broken, as well as 5.12.1.
>       Does this mean we should go back to that version of perl
>       just to make Slash
>       work?
> 
> 
> I'm running the current site on Perl 5.10.1 ... and:
> 
>    p5-ParallelUA-2.57_2
> 
> AGain, as a reminder, this is with FreeBSD ... now, that said, I had
> to istall p5-ParallelUA-2.57_2 *after* Slash::Bundle, so its possible
> that the one in Slash::Bundle is broken ... ?  Try and install
> p5-ParallelUA-2.57_2 manually and see if that works ...
> 
> 
>  >
>
>       On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 3:45 AM, George Taft
>       <geo...@gm...>
>       wrote:
>            Ooh. Now, suddenly, DBIx-Password didn't fail when I
>       reran CPAN
>            and typed install Bundle::Slash. Now only
>       ParallelUserAgent is
>            failing. Progress. 
>       I could SWEAR I typed in those grant lines in mysql
>       beforehand.
> 
>
>       On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 3:41 AM, George Taft
>       <geo...@gm...>
>       wrote:
>            Yep. Just did both of them again, the grant select et
>       al
>            and then the grant process.
> 
>
>       On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 3:37 AM, Marc <sc...@hu...>
>       wrote:
>            Did u do the GRANT statement that listed in the
>            INSTALL file for setting up the mysql server?
>
>            Sent from my iPhone
>
>       On 2011-02-13, at 3:34, George Taft
>       <geo...@gm...> wrote:
>
>            Answer is indeed no...
>
>            On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 3:31 AM, Marc G.
>            Fournier <sc...@hu...> wrote:
>
>                  These may be obvious, but since
>                  you don't mention, will ask:
>
>                  If you do:
>
>                    mysql -u xlash -h localhost -p
>                  xlash
>
>                  can you connect to the database?
>
>                  Based on the 'Access denied for
>                  user' error message, I suspect the
>                  answer to the above will be no ...
>                  but, need to eliminate that first
>                  ...
> 
> 
>
>       On Sun, 13 Feb 2011, George Taft wrote:
>
>            So I'm trying to install Slash
>            fresh in CentOS 5.5 from the
>            lottadot Git
>            repo. When it gets to installing
>            Bundle::Slash, two packages fail:
> 
>
>                 Failed during this command:
>                 KROW/DBIx-Password-1.9.tar.gz
>                           : make_test NO
>               
>             MARCLANG/ParallelUserAgent-2.57.tar.gz
>                  : make_test NO
> 
>
>            When I look specifically at the
>            first failure, this is the key
>            error
>            message:
>
>                 DBI
>            connect('database=xlash;host=localhost','xlash',...)
>            failed:
>                 Access denied for user
>            'xlash'@'localhost' to database
>            'xlash'
>                 at blib/lib/DBIx/Password.pm
>            line 31
> 
>
>            This was a problem I've
>            consistently had trying to install
>            under both CentOS
>            and Fedora 14. Why might this be
>            happening?
>
>            == George
>
>            P.S.: I have a complete log of the
>            commands I've executed since
>            installing a
>            fresh distribution of CentOS 5.5
>            from scratch, in case that helps,
>            but I
>            haven't pored over every message
>            during the install of a given
>            package.
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[Slashcode-general] On what Linux does anyone still have Slash running?

From: George T. <geo...@gm...> - 2011-02-14 08:41:19

So my misadventures in trying to install Slash on CentOS 5.5 are
increasingly well documented over at hax...@ha.... The module
that fails, p5-ParallelUA-2.57_2, seems to be hopelessly broken. I don't
know if forcing its install is worth the investment of time to find out
later that the whole thing's broke.

I need a baseline here. Marc evidently has it running successfully on
FreeBSD (see earlier post). Does anyone have it running on Linux at all? If
so, on what distro? And with what version of...

-- ...Perl?
-- ...Apache 1?
-- ...mod_perl?

Re: [Slashcode-general] Slash::Clout:* : no obj error

From: Marc G. F. <sc...@hu...> - 2011-02-13 16:24:31

On Sun, 13 Feb 2011, Clifton Wood wrote:

> Do you have the Clout object tree defined in
> 
> /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.10.1/mach/Slash
> 
> Sounds like it's a problem with Slash::Clout rather than getObject().

Okay, here is what I have on the file system:

ap13# du /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.10.1/mach/Slash
6       /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.10.1/mach/Slash/Apache/User
62      /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.10.1/mach/Slash/Apache
8       /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.10.1/mach/Slash/Client
126     /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.10.1/mach/Slash/Custom
66      /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.10.1/mach/Slash/DB/Static
566     /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.10.1/mach/Slash/DB
18      /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.10.1/mach/Slash/Display
4       /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.10.1/mach/Slash/Hook
404     /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.10.1/mach/Slash/Utility
24      /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.10.1/mach/Slash/XML
1328    /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.10.1/mach/Slash
ap13# find !$ -name "*Clout*" -ls
find /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.10.1/mach/Slash -name "*Clout*" -ls
ap13# find /usr/local/lib/perl5 -name "*Clout*" -ls
6100352        4 drwxr-xr-x    2 root             wheel 
512 Feb 10 16:51 /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.10.1/Slash/Clout
1957800        4 -r--r--r--    1 root             wheel 
1397 Feb 10 15:48 /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.10.1/Slash/Clout.pm


And the  module does load from perl:

ap13# perl -e "require Slash::Clout::Vote"
ap13#

So it does appear to be missing from the mach directory ... how do we fix?


> 
> - Cliff
> 
> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Marc G. Fournier <sc...@hu...> wrote:
>
>       Okay, someone better at tracing then me needs to jump in here
>       ...
>
>       The errors I'm getting all over the place (slashd / httpd) are:
>
>       no obj for 'Slash::Clout::Describe' at
>       /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.10.1/mach/Slash/DB/MySQL.pm
>       line 11341.
>       no obj for 'Slash::Clout::Moderate' at
>       /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.10.1/mach/Slash/DB/MySQL.pm
>       line 11341.
>       no obj for 'Slash::Clout::Vote' at
>       /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.10.1/mach/Slash/DB/MySQL.pm
>       line 11341.
> 
>
>       Now, on line 11341:
>
>       my $clout_obj = getObject($this_info->{class}, { db_type =>
>       'reader' }); warn "no obj for '$this_info->{class}'" unless
>       $clout_obj;
>
>       getObject() is defined in:
>
>       vi ./Slash/Utility/Environment/Environment.pm
>
>       Now, when I try and debug the getObject() function, it appears
>       that the error is being generated around line 2431 of
>       Environment.pm:
>
>                              $vuser = ($db_type  &&
>       $user->{state}{dbs}{$db_type})
>                                    || ($fallback &&
>       $user->{state}{dbs}{$fallback});
>       use Data::Dumper;
>       errorLog("\n\n$db_type : ". Dumper($user) ."\n");
>                              return undef if $db_type && $fallback &&
>       !$vuser;
>                      }
> 
>
>       so undef is being returned, which the above is taking as 'no obj
>       for...' ...
>
>       But, the Dumper statement above is returning:
>
>       reader : $VAR1 = {
>                'state' => {
>                             'dbs' => {}
>                           }
>              };
>
>       which to me reads as there is no values under dbs, reader or
>       otherwise ... ?
>
>       Anyone else a bit stronger in perl that can / has looked at
>       this?
> 
> 
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Re: [Slashcode-general] DBIx-Password: Access denied for virtual user to database

From: Marc G. F. <sc...@hu...> - 2011-02-13 08:31:31

These may be obvious, but since you don't mention, will ask:

If you do:

    mysql -u xlash -h localhost -p xlash

can you connect to the database?

Based on the 'Access denied for user' error message, I suspect the answer 
to the above will be no ... but, need to eliminate that first ...


On Sun, 13 Feb 2011, George Taft wrote:

> So I'm trying to install Slash fresh in CentOS 5.5 from the lottadot Git
> repo. When it gets to installing Bundle::Slash, two packages fail:
> 
>
>       Failed during this command:
>       KROW/DBIx-Password-1.9.tar.gz                : make_test NO
>       MARCLANG/ParallelUserAgent-2.57.tar.gz       : make_test NO
> 
> 
> When I look specifically at the first failure, this is the key error
> message:
>
>       DBI connect('database=xlash;host=localhost','xlash',...) failed:
>       Access denied for user 'xlash'@'localhost' to database 'xlash'
>       at blib/lib/DBIx/Password.pm line 31
> 
> 
> This was a problem I've consistently had trying to install under both CentOS
> and Fedora 14. Why might this be happening?
> 
> == George
> 
> P.S.: I have a complete log of the commands I've executed since installing a
> fresh distribution of CentOS 5.5 from scratch, in case that helps, but I
> haven't pored over every message during the install of a given package.
> 
>

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Re: [Slashcode-general] Version numbers

From: Marc G. F. <sc...@hu...> - 2011-02-12 02:32:28

On Fri, 11 Feb 2011, George Taft wrote:

> What version of slash is at https://github.com/lottadot/haxlash ? It's
> not 2.2.6; I take it it's R_2_5_something? I have no idea where to
> find that datum.
> 
> Also, a question from someone still struggling to get Git: there's no
> version number for the repository that is haXlash yet, is there? How
> do I know from one week to the next if I'm still attempting an install
> from the same batch of files?

mkdir /usr/local/src
cd /usr/local/src
git clone git://github.com/lottadot/haxlash.git haxlash
cd haxlash
git checkout HEAD

You will be workign on the latest code available ...

When I commit changes, they all go to HEAD for now ...

When I start playing with Apache 2.2 (after I get all the obvious / outstanding 
/ known issues with Apache 1.x worked out), we (Shane, hopefully) will create a 
branch so that the Apache 2.2 work will be HEAD ... the branch will eventually 
become our "1st Release of HaXlash 1.0", with thte Apache 2.2 version being 
HaXlash 2.0 ... bug fixes and such will still go into the 1.x branch as they 
come in, of course, it won't be stranded or anything like that :)

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[Slashcode-general] How to: add a block?

From: Marc G. F. <sc...@hu...> - 2011-02-11 18:41:48

Okay, I'm obviously missing a step here somewhere, and at a loss as to 
where ...

I went into Config -> Blocks and added a portald block that would display 
commit messages:

      http://www.hub.org/~scrappy/haxlash.png

Everything seems ot be working fine, checked portald.log and its 
processing the new portal, no errors ...

But, I don't see anythign when I actually go to:

      http://www.haxlash.org

In fact, my 'features' box disappeared at abotu the same time ... I've 
tried changing Ordernum from 1 -> 2, and that doesn't seem to make a 
difference ...

So, is there somewhere else I need to be making a change so that it 
actually displays the new block?  Or do I have something wrong in how I 
setup the block itself?



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Re: [Slashcode-general] Building a haxlash site ...

From: Marc G. F. <sc...@hu...> - 2011-02-11 18:32:52


Actually, was all co-related ... once I switche dto using 
_build_initial_queue instead of run, everything seems to be running great 
...

I haven't looked much into it (other priorities in the code), but my guess 
is that slashd is implementing its own run subroutine somewhere ..

Looking at the code for Schedule::Cron, even the original version 
according to cpan, build_initial_queue was the first thing that happened 
within the 'run' subroutine ...

When I changed the code to $cron->run(detach=>1), slashd was doing exactly 
what I told it to .. forking off a Schedule::Cron process, which also took 
a MySQL DB connection with it ...  when process_tasks() came around again 
(in slashd), it then fired off yet another Schedule::Cron forked process, 
with its MySQL DB Connection, etc, etc ...

One thing I didn't try yet was to do:

   $cron->run(detach=>0);

but I suspect that that woudl have stuck the slashd process within 
Schedule::Cron's run loop indefinitely ...

So, I switched back to the original code, but changing the subroutine call 
to be _build_initial_queue instead of build_initial_queue, which is what 
the author of the Perl module seems to have renamed it too ... the 
subroutine was there, just renamed ...

Right now, things seem to be running clean ...


On Fri, 11 Feb 2011, Clifton Wood wrote:

> It's one of the things we should fix, yes. Maybe we should move that into
> slashd or something. IIRC, that  correction was sent to the author of
> Schedule::Cron, but the change was never made. That's the danger of using a
> module where the upstream isn't cooperative. We may even need to keep a
> local version of it so that end-users don't have this problem.
> Now your database connection issues are a different animal. I doubt they are
> related but it looks like either something isn't closing its connections
> (bug?) or your MySQL server isn't tuned properly. 
> 
> Next time this happens, do "SHOW PROCESSLIST" in MySQL and let me know what
> you get back. 
> 
> - Cliff
> 
> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 9:37 PM, Marc G. Fournier <sc...@hu...> wrote:
>
>       # Build up executing queue and delete any
>       # existing entries
>       sub _build_initial_queue
>       {
>          my $self = shift;
>          $self->{queue} = [ ];
>          #  dbg "TT: ",$#{$self->{time_table}};
>          for my $id (0..$#{$self->{time_table}})
>          {
>              $self->_update_queue($id);
>          }
>       }
> 
>
>       But, do you recall *why*?  Changing $cron->build_initial_queue
>       to $cron->run(detach=>1); seems to have slashd running fine from
>       what I can tell here ...
>
>       Oops, maybe not?
>
>       Major Mojo Bad things (virtual user: haxlash)
>       unable to connect to MySQL:  : Too many connections
>       DBI connect('database=haxlash;host=200.46.204.15','haxlash',...)
>       failed: Too many connections at
>       /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.10.1/DBIx/Password.pm line 50
>       Major Mojo Bad things (virtual user: haxlash)
> 
>
>       Maybe related ... ?  Or something else altogether?
>
>       If the ->build_initial_queue is required, is there some way we
>       can implement this within Slash vs having to hack an external
>       module?
> 
> 
> On Thu, 10 Feb 2011, Clifton Wood wrote:
>
>       Crap. That's a thing we had to hack into Schedule::Cron.
>       I think it's there though, just tricky to get to... look
>       for
>       '_build_initial_queue".
>
>       If you can't find it, I'll have to look on my local
>       repository to see what
>       it consists of.
>
>       - Cliff
>
>       On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Marc G. Fournier
>       <sc...@hu...> wrote:
>
>            My bad on that, knew I forgot to start a process
>       there ... do
>            you know what:
>
>            Can't locate object method "build_initial_queue" via
>       package
>            "Schedule::Cron" at sbin/slashd line 529.
>
>            means though?  I'm running p5-Schedule-Cron-1.00 ..
>       something
>            that no longer exists that used to exist inthat
>       package?
> 
> 
>
>       On Thu, 10 Feb 2011, Clifton Wood wrote:
>
>            index.shtml is generated by slashd and that should be
>            running before you
>            start testing pages. Ideally, the Makefile should do
>       this
>            for you after you
>            install. This may be something we need to add to the
>       site
>            installation code:
>            /usr/local/slash/bin/runtask -u <virtuser>
>       newheadfoot.pl
>            /usr/local/slash/bin/runtask -u <virtuser>
>       freshenup.pl
>
>            That's what I can remember from my time doing daily
>       Slash
>            site installs. I
>            would think we'd like to automate that in hX.
>
>            - Cliff
>
>            On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Marc G. Fournier
>            <sc...@hu...> wrote:
>
>                 Morning all ...
>
>                   Based on the git repo that we now have, I have
>            setup a first
>                 incarnation
>                 at http://www.haxlash.org ... and here is my
>            experience so far,
>                 including
>                 'bugs':
>
>                   Right now, this site is running on FreeBSD
>       7.x,
>            with the
>                 following ports
>                 installed:
>
>                   apache-1.3.42
>                   ap13-mod_perl-1.31_1
>                   mysql-client-5.1.55
>                   perl-threaded-5.10.1_3
>                   p5-Bundle-Slash 2.52
>
>                 On top of that, I've had to add (not part of
>       Bundle
>            above):
>
>                   p5-ParallelUA-2.57_2
>                   p5-Data-JavaScript-Anon-1.03
>                   bsdpan-HTML-PopupTreeSelect-1.6
>                   p5-Lingua-Stem-0.84
>                   p5-DBD-mysql-4.017
>
>                   I stuck with *only* the DEFAULT plugins that
>       are
>            presented
>                 when you to
>                 the install ... from what I can tell, there are
>            others that
>                 should be
>                 default, but this is one area where we still
>       need to
>            investigate
>                 ...
>
>                   I am using Apache 2.2 + its internal proxy
>       support
>            to serve
>                 the site via
>                 Apache 2.2 ... this way I can work on upgrading
>       from
>            Apache 1.3
>                 without
>                 having to make alot of changes ...
>
>                   When restarting apache, I get several warnings
>       that
>            don't seem
>                 to
>                 prevent it from being started, namely:
>
>                 no obj for 'Slash::Clout::Describe' at
>               
>          
>         /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.10.1/mach/Slash/DB/MySQL.pm
>                 line 11341.
>                 no obj for 'Slash::Clout::Moderate' at
>               
>          
>         /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.10.1/mach/Slash/DB/MySQL.pm
>                 line 11341.
>                 no obj for 'Slash::Clout::Vote' at
>               
>          
>         /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.10.1/mach/Slash/DB/MySQL.pm
>                 line 11341.
>
>                   Am currently investigating, but from what I've
>            found so far,
>                 it has to
>                 do with the Tags plugin ...
>
>                   The other "bug" I hit was that the default
>            configuration found
>                 in:
> 
> /usr/local/www/d_admin/ap13.haxlash.org/www/site/www.haxlash.org/www.haxlas
> 
>
>                 h.org.conf
>
>                 contains a section:
>
>                     # this directive will redirect non-logged-in
>            users to
>                     # index.shtml if they request the home page;
>       turn
>            it
>                     # on to help increase performance or if you
>       are
>            using
>                 something
>                     # other than index.pl for the index
>                     #PerlTransHandler
>       Slash::Apache::IndexHandler
>                     # this directive will display a user's pages
>       at
>            /~username
>                     PerlTransHandler
>            Slash::Apache::User::userdir_handler
>
>                 The odd thing is that the line:
>
>                 PerlTransHandler Slash::Apache::IndexHandler
>
>                 Is commented out by default, which, when you
>       aren't
>            logged in,
>                 causes it
>                 to go to index.shtml, but there is no
>       index.shtml, so
>            generates
>                 a no such
>                 file / directory error messages ... commenting
>       it out
>            causes it
>                 to load
>                 index.pl properly, and all appears to be well
>       ... so
>            far ...
>
>                 YMMV
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[Slashcode-general] Building a haxlash site ...

From: Marc G. F. <sc...@hu...> - 2011-02-10 19:38:37

Morning all ...

   Based on the git repo that we now have, I have setup a first incarnation 
at http://www.haxlash.org ... and here is my experience so far, including 
'bugs':

   Right now, this site is running on FreeBSD 7.x, with the following ports 
installed:

   apache-1.3.42
   ap13-mod_perl-1.31_1
   mysql-client-5.1.55
   perl-threaded-5.10.1_3
   p5-Bundle-Slash 2.52

On top of that, I've had to add (not part of Bundle above):

   p5-ParallelUA-2.57_2
   p5-Data-JavaScript-Anon-1.03
   bsdpan-HTML-PopupTreeSelect-1.6
   p5-Lingua-Stem-0.84
   p5-DBD-mysql-4.017

   I stuck with *only* the DEFAULT plugins that are presented when you to 
the install ... from what I can tell, there are others that should be 
default, but this is one area where we still need to investigate ...

   I am using Apache 2.2 + its internal proxy support to serve the site via 
Apache 2.2 ... this way I can work on upgrading from Apache 1.3 without 
having to make alot of changes ...

   When restarting apache, I get several warnings that don't seem to 
prevent it from being started, namely:

no obj for 'Slash::Clout::Describe' at 
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.10.1/mach/Slash/DB/MySQL.pm line 11341.
no obj for 'Slash::Clout::Moderate' at 
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.10.1/mach/Slash/DB/MySQL.pm line 11341.
no obj for 'Slash::Clout::Vote' at 
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.10.1/mach/Slash/DB/MySQL.pm line 11341.

   Am currently investigating, but from what I've found so far, it has to 
do with the Tags plugin ...

   The other "bug" I hit was that the default configuration found in:

/usr/local/www/d_admin/ap13.haxlash.org/www/site/www.haxlash.org/www.haxlash.org.conf

contains a section:

     # this directive will redirect non-logged-in users to
     # index.shtml if they request the home page; turn it
     # on to help increase performance or if you are using something
     # other than index.pl for the index
     #PerlTransHandler Slash::Apache::IndexHandler
     # this directive will display a user's pages at /~username
     PerlTransHandler Slash::Apache::User::userdir_handler

The odd thing is that the line:

PerlTransHandler Slash::Apache::IndexHandler

Is commented out by default, which, when you aren't logged in, causes it 
to go to index.shtml, but there is no index.shtml, so generates a no such 
file / directory error messages ... commenting it out causes it to load 
index.pl properly, and all appears to be well ... so far ...

YMMV

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Re: [Slashcode-general] HaXlash: Slashcode Revival Project (fwd)

From: Marc G. F. <sc...@hu...> - 2011-02-10 04:59:18

Oops, sorry, thanks for the reminder ...

send an email to maj...@ha... with a body containing:

subscribe <listname>





On Wed, 9 Feb 2011, W. Scott Lockwood III wrote:

> How do we subscribe?
> 
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> Cam Wiki Admin (Awakening)
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marc G. Fournier [mailto:sc...@hu...]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 10:38 PM
> To: sla...@li...
> Subject: [Slashcode-general] HaXlash: Slashcode Revival Project
> 
> 
> Okay, I suck at subjects, but hopefully it caught some eyes ...
> 
> We are slowly moving forward on plans to revitalize / revive SlashCode ...
> as per Rob and Jamie's recommendations, we are rebranding completely to
> avoid any potential trademark related issues ... as such, we are naming
> the new project: HaXlash (pronounced: Hack-Slash)
> 
> Shane is dealing with getting the repo setup at GitHub, with instructions
> on how to access the repo to follow shortly ... the repo is based on the
> last available code from the slashcode report, minus that error at the end
> of the clone (benign error, but it fooled me at the time) ...
> 
> I've setup a set of mailing lists @haxlash.org that we encourage ppl to
> subscribe to and either lurk or get involved ... we will be cross-posting
> major announcements to this list for hte next little while, but
> discussions themselves will happen over there ...
> 
> The lists are:
>
>    haxlash-hackers ... for those developing
>    haxlash-general ... for those using
>    haxlash-commits ... for those that want to follow commits to github
>    haxlash-announce ... hopefully this one is obvious?
> 
> The lists are all setup so that only subscribers can post, so as to
> minimize / eliminate potential for spam ...
> 
> I am also setting up MediaWiki to give us an environment to build docs on,
> especially as pertains the myriad of distros that ppl out there are using
> ... nice thing about MediaWiki, everyone can get involved with
> documentation ...
> 
> Although my personal goal is to get things working with both PostgreSQL
> *and* Apache 2.2, I am setting up the main site right now on Apache
> 1.3+MySQL, so that we have a main site running Slashcode ...
> 
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[Slashcode-general] HaXlash: Slashcode Revival Project

From: Marc G. F. <sc...@hu...> - 2011-02-10 04:38:07

Okay, I suck at subjects, but hopefully it caught some eyes ...

We are slowly moving forward on plans to revitalize / revive SlashCode ... 
as per Rob and Jamie's recommendations, we are rebranding completely to 
avoid any potential trademark related issues ... as such, we are naming 
the new project: HaXlash (pronounced: Hack-Slash)

Shane is dealing with getting the repo setup at GitHub, with instructions 
on how to access the repo to follow shortly ... the repo is based on the 
last available code from the slashcode report, minus that error at the end 
of the clone (benign error, but it fooled me at the time) ...

I've setup a set of mailing lists @haxlash.org that we encourage ppl to 
subscribe to and either lurk or get involved ... we will be cross-posting 
major announcements to this list for hte next little while, but 
discussions themselves will happen over there ...

The lists are:

    haxlash-hackers ... for those developing
    haxlash-general ... for those using
    haxlash-commits ... for those that want to follow commits to github
    haxlash-announce ... hopefully this one is obvious?

The lists are all setup so that only subscribers can post, so as to 
minimize / eliminate potential for spam ...

I am also setting up MediaWiki to give us an environment to build docs on, 
especially as pertains the myriad of distros that ppl out there are using 
... nice thing about MediaWiki, everyone can get involved with 
documentation ...

Although my personal goal is to get things working with both PostgreSQL 
*and* Apache 2.2, I am setting up the main site right now on Apache 
1.3+MySQL, so that we have a main site running Slashcode ...


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Re: [Slashcode-general] MySQL dev's out there ... ?

From: George T. <geo...@gm...> - 2011-02-10 03:50:06

Yes, this was the error I mentioned earlier, when it gets to
installing the "Preview" table. Glad it wasn't just me.

On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Jamie McCarthy <ja...@mc...> wrote:
>> Failed command: CREATE TABLE preview (  preview_id mediumint UNSIGNED NOT
>> NULL auto_increment,  uid mediumint UNSIGNED NOT NULL,        src_fhid
>> mediumint UNSIGNED NOT NULL DEFAULT 0, preview_fhid mediumint UNSIGNED NOT
>> NULL DEFAULT 0,     title VARCHAR(255) NOT NULL DEFAULT '', introtext text
>> NOT NULL,        bodytext text NOT NULL, active ENUM("no","yes") DEFAULT
>> "yes",  PRIMARY KEY (preview_id)        KEY uid (uid),) TYPE=InnoDB
>>
>> Does someone with mysql knowledge know why, and how to fix?
>
> Old bug. I thought we fixed that in a release, but it's in the 9/2009 git repo, sigh.
>
> The fix is to remove the final spurious comma.
>
>> find: themes/*/plugins: No such file or directory
>
> Easy workaround would be to create empty dirs named 'plugins' in each themes/* dir. I would have thought that find message was a warning not an error, but if it breaks make, that's what I'd suggest.
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[Slashcode-general] PlugIns: A proposal

From: Marc G. F. <sc...@hu...> - 2011-02-10 03:18:12

As a pseudo-long term goal, and to greatly simplify getting things up and 
running for ppl, can I suggest that we look into *removing* plugins, 
except for the *core* ones?

Not only would that simplify the install by eliminating that 'pick plugins 
to install' screen, but it would act as a 'seed' to a plugins section, 
that would hopefully provide templates for others that might look at 
creating / adding new plugins to the system ...

Thoughts ... ?

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Re: [Slashcode-general] First run at an install ...

From: Clifton W. <cli...@gm...> - 2011-02-10 01:16:11

Themes should never have a plugins directory under them. Ideally, if a theme
and a plugin are supposed to go together, then the installer should force
the issue. I don't think themes and plugins were ever intended to be bundled
together like that.

Later design decisions could have completely trumped my stale recollection
of things, however.

- Cliff

On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Marc G. Fournier <sc...@hu...> wrote:

>
> Okay, am trying to do my first run at an install of slashtng, based on the
> git repo that shane setup ... for the most part, things are going
> smoothly, but on install, I'm hitting:
>
> # Now all the themes
> cp -r themes/* /usr/local/www/d_admin/ap13.slashtng.org/slash/themes
> # Ensure we use the proper Perl interpreter and prefix in all scripts that
> # we install. Note the use of Perl as opposed to dirname(1) and
> basename(1)
> # which may or may not exist on any given system.
> (replacewith=`perl -MConfig -e 'print quotemeta($Config{startperl})' | sed
> 's/@/\\@/g'`;  binfiles=`find bin -name CVS -prune -o -name .git -prune -o
> -name [a-zA-Z]\* -type f -print`;  sbinfiles=`find sbin -name CVS -prune
> -o -name .git -prune -o -name [a-zA-Z]\* -type f -print`;
> themefiles=`find themes -name CVS -prune -o -name .git -prune -o -name
> [a-zA-z]\*.pl -print`;  pluginfiles=`find plugins themes/*/plugins -name
> CVS -prune -o -name .git -prune -o -name [a-zA-Z]\*.pl -print`;
> tagboxfiles=`find tagboxes themes/*/tagboxes -name CVS -prune -o -name
> .git -prune -o -name [a-zA-Z]\*.pl -print`;  if [ "$replacewith" !=
> "\#\!\/usr\/bin\/perl" ]; then  replace=1;  replacestr='(using perl)';
> else  replace=0;  fi;  for f in $binfiles $sbinfiles $themefiles
> $pluginfiles $tagboxfiles; do
> n=/usr/local/www/d_admin/ap13.slashtng.org/slash/$f;  install -d
> /usr/local/www/d_admin/ap13.slashtng.org/slash/$d;  if [ $replace ]; then
> cat $f |  sed -e "1s/\#\!\/usr\/bin\/perl/$replacewith/" > $n.tmp;
> install -m 0755 $n.tmp $n;  rm -f $n.tmp;  else  install $f $n;  fi;
> done)
> find: themes/*/plugins: No such file or directory
> *** Error code 1
>
> Stop in /usr/local/www/d_admin/ap13.slashtng.org/slash-git.
>
>
> Now, there is a plugins directory, and a themes directory ... but there
> are no plugins directories *under* themes ...
>
> to get around, it appears the following patch needs to be applied:
>
> # diff Makefile.orig Makefile
> 47,48c47,48
> < PLUGINFILES = `find plugins themes/*/plugins -name CVS -prune -o -name
> .git -prune -o -name [a-zA-Z]\*.pl -print`
> < TAGBOXFILES = `find tagboxes themes/*/tagboxes -name CVS -prune -o -name
> .git -prune -o -name [a-zA-Z]\*.pl -print`
> ---
> > PLUGINFILES = `find plugins -name CVS -prune -o -name .git -prune -o
> -name [a-zA-Z]\*.pl -print`
> > TAGBOXFILES = `find tagboxes -name CVS -prune -o -name .git -prune -o
> -name [a-zA-Z]\*.pl -print`
>
> Does anyone know if there is ever a case where a theme *will* have a
> plugins (or tagboxes) directory under them?
>
> At this time, none of the three themes appears to have such ...
>
>
>
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Re: [Slashcode-general] MySQL dev's out there ... ?

From: Jamie M. <ja...@mc...> - 2011-02-09 23:22:07

> Failed command: CREATE TABLE preview (  preview_id mediumint UNSIGNED NOT 
> NULL auto_increment,  uid mediumint UNSIGNED NOT NULL,        src_fhid 
> mediumint UNSIGNED NOT NULL DEFAULT 0, preview_fhid mediumint UNSIGNED NOT 
> NULL DEFAULT 0,     title VARCHAR(255) NOT NULL DEFAULT '', introtext text 
> NOT NULL,        bodytext text NOT NULL, active ENUM("no","yes") DEFAULT 
> "yes",  PRIMARY KEY (preview_id)        KEY uid (uid),) TYPE=InnoDB
> 
> Does someone with mysql knowledge know why, and how to fix?

Old bug. I thought we fixed that in a release, but it's in the 9/2009 git repo, sigh.

The fix is to remove the final spurious comma.

> find: themes/*/plugins: No such file or directory

Easy workaround would be to create empty dirs named 'plugins' in each themes/* dir. I would have thought that find message was a warning not an error, but if it breaks make, that's what I'd suggest.

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[Slashcode-general] MySQL dev's out there ... ?

From: Marc G. F. <sc...@hu...> - 2011-02-09 23:14:19

Get this at the final stages of install:

DBD::mysql::db do failed: You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the 
manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax 
to use near 'KEY uid (uid),) TYPE=InnoDB' at line 1 at 
bin/install-slashsite line 413.


withthe command being:

Failed command: CREATE TABLE preview (  preview_id mediumint UNSIGNED NOT 
NULL auto_increment,  uid mediumint UNSIGNED NOT NULL,        src_fhid 
mediumint UNSIGNED NOT NULL DEFAULT 0, preview_fhid mediumint UNSIGNED NOT 
NULL DEFAULT 0,     title VARCHAR(255) NOT NULL DEFAULT '', introtext text 
NOT NULL,        bodytext text NOT NULL, active ENUM("no","yes") DEFAULT 
"yes",  PRIMARY KEY (preview_id)        KEY uid (uid),) TYPE=InnoDB

Does someone with mysql knowledge know why, and how to fix?

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[Slashcode-general] First run at an install ...

From: Marc G. F. <sc...@hu...> - 2011-02-09 22:07:50

Okay, am trying to do my first run at an install of slashtng, based on the 
git repo that shane setup ... for the most part, things are going 
smoothly, but on install, I'm hitting:

# Now all the themes
cp -r themes/* /usr/local/www/d_admin/ap13.slashtng.org/slash/themes
# Ensure we use the proper Perl interpreter and prefix in all scripts that
# we install. Note the use of Perl as opposed to dirname(1) and 
basename(1)
# which may or may not exist on any given system.
(replacewith=`perl -MConfig -e 'print quotemeta($Config{startperl})' | sed 
's/@/\\@/g'`;  binfiles=`find bin -name CVS -prune -o -name .git -prune -o 
-name [a-zA-Z]\* -type f -print`;  sbinfiles=`find sbin -name CVS -prune 
-o -name .git -prune -o -name [a-zA-Z]\* -type f -print`; 
themefiles=`find themes -name CVS -prune -o -name .git -prune -o -name 
[a-zA-z]\*.pl -print`;  pluginfiles=`find plugins themes/*/plugins -name 
CVS -prune -o -name .git -prune -o -name [a-zA-Z]\*.pl -print`; 
tagboxfiles=`find tagboxes themes/*/tagboxes -name CVS -prune -o -name 
.git -prune -o -name [a-zA-Z]\*.pl -print`;  if [ "$replacewith" != 
"\#\!\/usr\/bin\/perl" ]; then  replace=1;  replacestr='(using perl)'; 
else  replace=0;  fi;  for f in $binfiles $sbinfiles $themefiles 
$pluginfiles $tagboxfiles; do 
n=/usr/local/www/d_admin/ap13.slashtng.org/slash/$f;  install -d 
/usr/local/www/d_admin/ap13.slashtng.org/slash/$d;  if [ $replace ]; then 
cat $f |  sed -e "1s/\#\!\/usr\/bin\/perl/$replacewith/" > $n.tmp; 
install -m 0755 $n.tmp $n;  rm -f $n.tmp;  else  install $f $n;  fi; 
done)
find: themes/*/plugins: No such file or directory
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/local/www/d_admin/ap13.slashtng.org/slash-git.


Now, there is a plugins directory, and a themes directory ... but there 
are no plugins directories *under* themes ...

to get around, it appears the following patch needs to be applied:

# diff Makefile.orig Makefile
47,48c47,48
< PLUGINFILES = `find plugins themes/*/plugins -name CVS -prune -o -name 
.git -prune -o -name [a-zA-Z]\*.pl -print`
< TAGBOXFILES = `find tagboxes themes/*/tagboxes -name CVS -prune -o -name 
.git -prune -o -name [a-zA-Z]\*.pl -print`
---
> PLUGINFILES = `find plugins -name CVS -prune -o -name .git -prune -o 
-name [a-zA-Z]\*.pl -print`
> TAGBOXFILES = `find tagboxes -name CVS -prune -o -name .git -prune -o 
-name [a-zA-Z]\*.pl -print`

Does anyone know if there is ever a case where a theme *will* have a 
plugins (or tagboxes) directory under them?

At this time, none of the three themes appears to have such ...



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Re: [Slashcode-general] SlashTNG, for lack of better suggestions ...

From: Marc G. F. <sc...@hu...> - 2011-02-09 15:22:16

On Wed, 9 Feb 2011, Shane Zatezalo wrote:

> Given the name change, the repo has been rebooted:
>
> https://github.com/lottadot/slashtng
>
> No 'live' branch. Just master. Please clone.
>
> Also, if I were you, I would consider using existing, free tools out 
> there for the project, such as:

All of the tools that I've proposed *are* existing, free tools ... but 
tools within our control completely, from the source code up ... except, 
of cource, github ...

The thing is, by hosting it all ourselves, instead of 'outsourcing it', we 
advertise our brand, not Googles, or ...

For every email that someone gets, it will have our domain.

For every URL indexed / searched / directed to, it will have our name.

Don't get me wrong ... I'm not anti-google, but we want the traffic / hits 
pushed towards our domain, not Googles ...


  >
> 1. A Google Groups list for it.
> 2. Github provides a wiki -- but I can't really vouch for it myself.
> 3. an registered irc channel on freenode.
> 4. a homepage that spells all that out, ie http://www.browsercms.org/
> 5. And I don't know that I'd use slashcode for announcements et all for the site, but rather use the google groups for that stuff, and use the VM as a "usable demo site" that auto-rebuild itself once/day that anyone can login and play around in. Personally, I love when open source projects do that, so you can, within 2 minutes of reading about the project, go and play around with it, rather then spending a half hour installing and setting up.
>
> $.02.
>
> Shane
>
> On Feb 8, 2011, at 9:06 PM, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
>
>>
>> In order to get things moving forwarded, and based on what Rob stated in
>> his email, here is the direction I'm proposing for those wishing to move
>> forward ...
>>
>> I have registered slashtng.{org,net,info,com,biz} so that there is little
>> risk of someone else coming along and confusing things.
>>
>> I'm setting up a virtual machine (I own my own hosting company) for
>> slashtng.org that will have:
>>
>> 	SlashCode for announcements / portal
>> 	MediaWiki for Documentation
>> 	phpBB3 for User Forums
>> 	Majordomo2 for mailing list discussions
>>
>> Shane has set up the code on github, and, hopefully, will act as "the
>> maintainer", since he obviously knows something about Git ...
>>
>> I believe George's goal is improving documentation, especially as far as
>> installations are concerned ...
>>
>> My goals are a bit more far-reaching ... getting SlashTNG to support
>> PostgreSQL for a backend (15 years with postgreSQL makes me kinda biased
>> on useful backends), as well as modernizing the code (ie. Apache 2.2 vs
>> 1.x, newer perl modules, etc) ...
>>
>> My experiences with OSS tend to be that you can either spend weeks
>> discussing things until everyone gets bored and on ... or you can "just do
>> it" ...
>>
>> Personally ... "just do it" tends to get things moving faster ...
>>
>> Any objections, speak up ... I'm just trying to push from a "what a cool
>> idea" to "let's get working" ...
>>
>> ----
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>>
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>> Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen.
>> Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development cycle.
>> Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit performance.
>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Sla...@li...
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen.
> Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development cycle.
> Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit performance.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb
> _______________________________________________
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> Sla...@li...
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Re: [Slashcode-general] SlashTNG, for lack of better suggestions ...

From: Shane Z. <sh...@lo...> - 2011-02-09 11:55:32

Given the name change, the repo has been rebooted:

https://github.com/lottadot/slashtng

No 'live' branch. Just master. Please clone.

Also, if I were you, I would consider using existing, free tools out there for the project, such as:

1. A Google Groups list for it.
2. Github provides a wiki -- but I can't really vouch for it myself.
3. an registered irc channel on freenode.
4. a homepage that spells all that out, ie http://www.browsercms.org/
5. And I don't know that I'd use slashcode for announcements et all for the site, but rather use the google groups for that stuff, and use the VM as a "usable demo site" that auto-rebuild itself once/day that anyone can login and play around in. Personally, I love when open source projects do that, so you can, within 2 minutes of reading about the project, go and play around with it, rather then spending a half hour installing and setting up.

$.02.

 Shane

On Feb 8, 2011, at 9:06 PM, Marc G. Fournier wrote:

> 
> In order to get things moving forwarded, and based on what Rob stated in 
> his email, here is the direction I'm proposing for those wishing to move 
> forward ...
> 
> I have registered slashtng.{org,net,info,com,biz} so that there is little 
> risk of someone else coming along and confusing things.
> 
> I'm setting up a virtual machine (I own my own hosting company) for 
> slashtng.org that will have:
> 
> 	SlashCode for announcements / portal
> 	MediaWiki for Documentation
> 	phpBB3 for User Forums
> 	Majordomo2 for mailing list discussions
> 
> Shane has set up the code on github, and, hopefully, will act as "the 
> maintainer", since he obviously knows something about Git ...
> 
> I believe George's goal is improving documentation, especially as far as 
> installations are concerned ...
> 
> My goals are a bit more far-reaching ... getting SlashTNG to support 
> PostgreSQL for a backend (15 years with postgreSQL makes me kinda biased 
> on useful backends), as well as modernizing the code (ie. Apache 2.2 vs 
> 1.x, newer perl modules, etc) ...
> 
> My experiences with OSS tend to be that you can either spend weeks 
> discussing things until everyone gets bored and on ... or you can "just do 
> it" ...
> 
> Personally ... "just do it" tends to get things moving faster ...
> 
> Any objections, speak up ... I'm just trying to push from a "what a cool 
> idea" to "let's get working" ...
> 
> ----
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> 
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> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> The ultimate all-in-one performance toolkit: Intel(R) Parallel Studio XE:
> Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen.
> Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development cycle.
> Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit performance.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb
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Re: [Slashcode-general] Renaming the fork of Slashcode

From: George T. <geo...@gm...> - 2011-02-09 08:17:21

When everyone involved with Slashdot, up to and including the founder,
says it's time to fork the project, I think that answers my question
and makes our course clear.

Rob, I'm glad you spoke up. I want to tell you personally that I think
the value of Slash as a tool for civil discussion has been
underestimated by pretty much everyone.

I've spent more than my share of time in public meetings. Generally,
the worse the chair of the meeting is, the more the meeting is likely
to suck. The less the assembled stick to an agenda duly compiled, the
more the meeting is likely to take forever. The less willing the
assembled are to submit to an equal limit on the number of times and
the amount of time speakers may speak, the more the meeting is likely
to end in insults, hurt feelings and nothing accomplished.

That goes for online "meetings," too. The first time I got online, in
1983, I joined a discussion and immediately got into a flame war. I
still occasionally found myself doing so twenty years later. Most
newspaper sites have terribly moderated comment sections. Those that
have good ones are labor-intensive; moderation requires moderators.

Slashdot found the right formula for having a civil discussion online:
let everyone moderate...but "in moderation," rendered automatically
and meta-moderated to minimize human bias error.

That you released the code open-source at all is our good fortune.
That it wasn't clear to others how to use it, or to you and yours how
to package it so that they would, does not diminish the achievement. I
for one am ready to implement it as is (...as long as I can get it
installed; we'll see in the next few days ;-).

I think I can speak for a few people when I say we're looking forward
to trying to put Slash into contexts where more people can benefit
from the civil discussions that it can enable. It would be great if
you were to keep checking in with us, and lending moral support if
nothing else, as we try.

All right. Fork it.

== George



On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Rob Malda <ma...@sl...> wrote:
> First, let me state that I originated Slashcode and Slashdot.  I also
> managed our engineering team for a decade or so.  These days I run the
> editorial group, which is already which doesn't write code of any type
> ;)  So while I have meetings with people who are responsible for these
> things, they don't report to me and I can't boss them around.
>
> I think it probably would be better if a new name was picked that
> implied legacy.  I believe (although I could be wrong on this) that
> trademarks might have actually been made at some point in the lifespan
> of the project.  I could be wrong, but I'd rather not have any
> complication or confusion on anyone's part.
>
> I'd love to see you guys do something great.  For Slashdot anyway,
> releasing the code was always a cool side project, but we never got
> contributions back enough to justify the engineering man hours we put
> into the public releases. From a journalism & freedom of information
> perspective, I loved seeing sites based on our system pop up.  But you
> can't put that into a budget...
>
> If the fork managed to produce useful patches, that might convince
> people to get a new version on our end out so we could get exciting
> new awesome features on Slashdot too.  But I suspect it would take
> some significant stuff to make that something that would be seriously
> considered.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 4:17 PM, Alexandre Leroux
> <ale...@ec...> wrote:
>>
>> I think the point is instead of 'forking and renaming' slashcode, would
>> be to just update slashcode and continue to use its name. If former
>> developers agrees of course (why wouldn't they?).
>>
>> good luck -
>>
>> Alex
>> --
>> Alexandre Leroux, M.Sc., ing.
>> Section de la réponse aux urgences environnementales /
>> Environmental Emergency Response Section
>> Centre météorologique canadien / Canadian Meteorological Centre
>> Environnement Canada / Environment Canada
>> ale...@ec... - (514) 421-5024
>>
>>
>> On 02/08/11 16:13, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
>>> But, that is what we are doing ... forking hte project, and workingot
>>> re-vitalize it ... once we get the initial infrastructure in place, we'll
>>> do an announce to this list, and make a request to Jamie et al to put
>>> something on the main page of the slashcode web site pointing ppl to the
>>> new site ...
>>>
>>> On Tue, 8 Feb 2011, George Taft wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well, after sleeping on it, I have a new thought.
>>>>
>>>> To date, "Slash" has been the Software. "Slashcode" has been the
>>>> "Slash Open Source Project," as the site at slashcode.com calls
>>>> itself.
>>>>
>>>> The Software, those of us still here agree, has utility and is worth
>>>> continuing to develop. But users have almost all drifted away because
>>>> the Project has suffered from a profound lack of attention. That would
>>>> be because those of us still here all but do not include the Slashdot
>>>> team, who greatly reduced their priority to the Project in favor of
>>>> Slashdot itself.
>>>>
>>>> I notice that Chris Nandor, the last person to post an article at
>>>> slashcode.com, <a
>>>> href="http://use.perl.org/~pudge/journal/40493">stopped working for
>>>> Slashdot/GeekNet as of 2010Q4.</a> He put the use.perl.org site on
>>>> hiatus before he quit. I'm betting that he no longer considers
>>>> Slashcode a priority, either. Jamie McCarthy, the second-to-last to
>>>> post an article, works for GeekNet but not Slashdot. (Jamie has
>>>> contacted us with words of encouragement.)
>>>>
>>>> All this begs the question: why have we not asked the Slashdot team if
>>>> they wouldn't mind if someone else took over altogether the "Slash
>>>> Open Source Project" that is slashcode.com?
>>>>
>>>> == George
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Marc G. Fournier <sc...@hu...> wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 8 Feb 2011, Andre-John Mas wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Or a small variation:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> SlashCode-NG
>>>>> I could go for that one ... any nay's on that?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8-Feb-2011, at 10:07, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cute :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> None of them *really* ring though, now do they? :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just so that we don't get hung up on a name and never actually move
>>>>>>> forward with the critical stuff, u nless anyone has something that
>>>>>>> *rings*
>>>>>>> to put forward, does anyone have any disagreements with just going with:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> SlashTNG
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 7 Feb 2011, George Taft wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Oh, I love this thread. I like Backslash and Solidus. I came up with:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Slashback
>>>>>>>> Slasher
>>>>>>>> Slashout
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Slapdash
>>>>>>>> StrikeThat
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> SlashAndBurn
>>>>>>>> SlashAndCarry
>>>>>>>> SlashCut
>>>>>>>> SlashedPotatoes
>>>>>>>> SlashinthePan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Things that slash:
>>>>>>>> -- pirates; swashbucklers
>>>>>>>> -- a spare in bowling
>>>>>>>> -- a slash is a stroke; stricken; struck
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> == George
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 6:34 PM, Marc G. Fournier <sc...@hu...>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> As far as domains are concerned, both are already taken ... :(
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 7 Feb 2011, Larson, Timothy E. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 'k, since SlashCode belongs to the Slashdot folks, we need to rename
>>>>>>>>>>> th
>>>>>>>>>>> efork ot someting different ... I want like to somehow keep some sort
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> 'history in the name' ... anyone got better then SlashTNG?  PortalSC
>>>>>>>>>>> (SC
>>>>>>>>>>> == Slashcode)?  Something better ... ?
>>>>>>>>>> Backslash (Slash is back)?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Solidus (the typography geek in me comes out)?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Tim Larson
>>>>>>>>>> App Admin, Intercall Production Services
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>>>>> XE:
>>>>>>>> Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen.
>>>>>>>> Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development cycle.
>>>>>>>> Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit performance.
>>>>>>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> Slashcode-general mailing list
>>>>>>>> Sla...@li...
>>>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> The ultimate all-in-one performance toolkit: Intel(R) Parallel Studio XE:
>>>>>>> Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen.
>>>>>>> Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development cycle.
>>>>>>> Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit performance.
>>>>>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Slashcode-general mailing list
>>>>>>> Sla...@li...
>>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> ----
>>>>> Marc G. Fournier                        Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A.
>>>>> sc...@hu...                                     http://www.hub.org
>>>>>
>>>>> Yahoo:yscrappy    Skype: hub.org    ICQ:7615664    MSN:sc...@hu...
>>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> The ultimate all-in-one performance toolkit: Intel(R) Parallel Studio XE:
>>>> Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen.
>>>> Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development cycle.
>>>> Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit performance.
>>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Slashcode-general mailing list
>>>> Sla...@li...
>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general
>>>>
>>>
>>> ----
>>> Marc G. Fournier                        Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A.
>>> sc...@hu...                                     http://www.hub.org
>>>
>>> Yahoo:yscrappy    Skype: hub.org    ICQ:7615664    MSN:sc...@hu...
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> The ultimate all-in-one performance toolkit: Intel(R) Parallel Studio XE:
>>> Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen.
>>> Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development cycle.
>>> Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit performance.
>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Slashcode-general mailing list
>>> Sla...@li...
>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> The ultimate all-in-one performance toolkit: Intel(R) Parallel Studio XE:
>> Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen.
>> Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development cycle.
>> Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit performance.
>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb
>> _______________________________________________
>> Slashcode-general mailing list
>> Sla...@li...
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Pants are Optional
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> The ultimate all-in-one performance toolkit: Intel(R) Parallel Studio XE:
> Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen.
> Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development cycle.
> Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit performance.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb
> _______________________________________________
> Slashcode-general mailing list
> Sla...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general
>

Re: [Slashcode-general] SlashTNG, for lack of better suggestions ...

From: Clifton W. <cli...@gm...> - 2011-02-09 05:04:49

Hackslash....

Don't mind me. Two days without sleep and a thesaurus are a dangerous
combination.

- Cliff

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Marc G. Fournier <sc...@hu...> wrote:

>
> In order to get things moving forwarded, and based on what Rob stated in
> his email, here is the direction I'm proposing for those wishing to move
> forward ...
>
> I have registered slashtng.{org,net,info,com,biz} so that there is little
> risk of someone else coming along and confusing things.
>
> I'm setting up a virtual machine (I own my own hosting company) for
> slashtng.org that will have:
>
>        SlashCode for announcements / portal
>        MediaWiki for Documentation
>        phpBB3 for User Forums
>        Majordomo2 for mailing list discussions
>
> Shane has set up the code on github, and, hopefully, will act as "the
> maintainer", since he obviously knows something about Git ...
>
> I believe George's goal is improving documentation, especially as far as
> installations are concerned ...
>
> My goals are a bit more far-reaching ... getting SlashTNG to support
> PostgreSQL for a backend (15 years with postgreSQL makes me kinda biased
> on useful backends), as well as modernizing the code (ie. Apache 2.2 vs
> 1.x, newer perl modules, etc) ...
>
> My experiences with OSS tend to be that you can either spend weeks
> discussing things until everyone gets bored and on ... or you can "just do
> it" ...
>
> Personally ... "just do it" tends to get things moving faster ...
>
> Any objections, speak up ... I'm just trying to push from a "what a cool
> idea" to "let's get working" ...
>
> ----
> Marc G. Fournier                        Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A.
> sc...@hu...                                     http://www.hub.org
>
> Yahoo:yscrappy    Skype: hub.org    ICQ:7615664    MSN:sc...@hu...
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> The ultimate all-in-one performance toolkit: Intel(R) Parallel Studio XE:
> Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen.
> Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development cycle.
> Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit performance.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb
> _______________________________________________
> Slashcode-general mailing list
> Sla...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general
>

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