Re: [Slashcode-general] SlashTNG, for lack of better suggestions ...

[Clifton Wood <clifton.wood@gm...>]

Hackslash....

Don't mind me. Two days without sleep and a thesaurus are a dangerous
combination.

- Cliff

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Marc G. Fournier <scrappy@...> wrote:

>
> In order to get things moving forwarded, and based on what Rob stated in
> his email, here is the direction I'm proposing for those wishing to move
> forward ...
>
> I have registered slashtng.{org,net,info,com,biz} so that there is little
> risk of someone else coming along and confusing things.
>
> I'm setting up a virtual machine (I own my own hosting company) for
> slashtng.org that will have:
>
>        SlashCode for announcements / portal
>        MediaWiki for Documentation
>        phpBB3 for User Forums
>        Majordomo2 for mailing list discussions
>
> Shane has set up the code on github, and, hopefully, will act as "the
> maintainer", since he obviously knows something about Git ...
>
> I believe George's goal is improving documentation, especially as far as
> installations are concerned ...
>
> My goals are a bit more far-reaching ... getting SlashTNG to support
> PostgreSQL for a backend (15 years with postgreSQL makes me kinda biased
> on useful backends), as well as modernizing the code (ie. Apache 2.2 vs
> 1.x, newer perl modules, etc) ...
>
> My experiences with OSS tend to be that you can either spend weeks
> discussing things until everyone gets bored and on ... or you can "just do
> it" ...
>
> Personally ... "just do it" tends to get things moving faster ...
>
> Any objections, speak up ... I'm just trying to push from a "what a cool
> idea" to "let's get working" ...
>
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> Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen.
> Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development cycle.
> Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit performance.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb
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[Slashcode-general] SlashTNG, for lack of better suggestions ...

[Marc G. Fournier <scrappy@hu...>]

In order to get things moving forwarded, and based on what Rob stated in 
his email, here is the direction I'm proposing for those wishing to move 
forward ...

I have registered slashtng.{org,net,info,com,biz} so that there is little 
risk of someone else coming along and confusing things.

I'm setting up a virtual machine (I own my own hosting company) for 
slashtng.org that will have:

 	SlashCode for announcements / portal
 	MediaWiki for Documentation
 	phpBB3 for User Forums
 	Majordomo2 for mailing list discussions

Shane has set up the code on github, and, hopefully, will act as "the 
maintainer", since he obviously knows something about Git ...

I believe George's goal is improving documentation, especially as far as 
installations are concerned ...

My goals are a bit more far-reaching ... getting SlashTNG to support 
PostgreSQL for a backend (15 years with postgreSQL makes me kinda biased 
on useful backends), as well as modernizing the code (ie. Apache 2.2 vs 
1.x, newer perl modules, etc) ...

My experiences with OSS tend to be that you can either spend weeks 
discussing things until everyone gets bored and on ... or you can "just do 
it" ...

Personally ... "just do it" tends to get things moving faster ...

Any objections, speak up ... I'm just trying to push from a "what a cool 
idea" to "let's get working" ...

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Re: [Slashcode-general] SlashTNG, for lack of better suggestions ...

[Clifton Wood <clifton.wood@gm...>]

Hackslash....

Don't mind me. Two days without sleep and a thesaurus are a dangerous
combination.

- Cliff

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Marc G. Fournier <scrappy@...> wrote:

>
> In order to get things moving forwarded, and based on what Rob stated in
> his email, here is the direction I'm proposing for those wishing to move
> forward ...
>
> I have registered slashtng.{org,net,info,com,biz} so that there is little
> risk of someone else coming along and confusing things.
>
> I'm setting up a virtual machine (I own my own hosting company) for
> slashtng.org that will have:
>
>        SlashCode for announcements / portal
>        MediaWiki for Documentation
>        phpBB3 for User Forums
>        Majordomo2 for mailing list discussions
>
> Shane has set up the code on github, and, hopefully, will act as "the
> maintainer", since he obviously knows something about Git ...
>
> I believe George's goal is improving documentation, especially as far as
> installations are concerned ...
>
> My goals are a bit more far-reaching ... getting SlashTNG to support
> PostgreSQL for a backend (15 years with postgreSQL makes me kinda biased
> on useful backends), as well as modernizing the code (ie. Apache 2.2 vs
> 1.x, newer perl modules, etc) ...
>
> My experiences with OSS tend to be that you can either spend weeks
> discussing things until everyone gets bored and on ... or you can "just do
> it" ...
>
> Personally ... "just do it" tends to get things moving faster ...
>
> Any objections, speak up ... I'm just trying to push from a "what a cool
> idea" to "let's get working" ...
>
> ----
> Marc G. Fournier                        Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A.
> scrappy@...                                     http://www.hub.org
>
> Yahoo:yscrappy    Skype: hub.org    ICQ:7615664    MSN:scrappy@...
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> The ultimate all-in-one performance toolkit: Intel(R) Parallel Studio XE:
> Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen.
> Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development cycle.
> Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit performance.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb
> _______________________________________________
> Slashcode-general mailing list
> Slashcode-general@...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general
>

Re: [Slashcode-general] SlashTNG, for lack of better suggestions ...

[Shane Zatezalo <shane@lo...>]

Given the name change, the repo has been rebooted:

https://github.com/lottadot/slashtng

No 'live' branch. Just master. Please clone.

Also, if I were you, I would consider using existing, free tools out there for the project, such as:

1. A Google Groups list for it.
2. Github provides a wiki -- but I can't really vouch for it myself.
3. an registered irc channel on freenode.
4. a homepage that spells all that out, ie http://www.browsercms.org/
5. And I don't know that I'd use slashcode for announcements et all for the site, but rather use the google groups for that stuff, and use the VM as a "usable demo site" that auto-rebuild itself once/day that anyone can login and play around in. Personally, I love when open source projects do that, so you can, within 2 minutes of reading about the project, go and play around with it, rather then spending a half hour installing and setting up.

$.02.

 Shane

On Feb 8, 2011, at 9:06 PM, Marc G. Fournier wrote:

> 
> In order to get things moving forwarded, and based on what Rob stated in 
> his email, here is the direction I'm proposing for those wishing to move 
> forward ...
> 
> I have registered slashtng.{org,net,info,com,biz} so that there is little 
> risk of someone else coming along and confusing things.
> 
> I'm setting up a virtual machine (I own my own hosting company) for 
> slashtng.org that will have:
> 
> 	SlashCode for announcements / portal
> 	MediaWiki for Documentation
> 	phpBB3 for User Forums
> 	Majordomo2 for mailing list discussions
> 
> Shane has set up the code on github, and, hopefully, will act as "the 
> maintainer", since he obviously knows something about Git ...
> 
> I believe George's goal is improving documentation, especially as far as 
> installations are concerned ...
> 
> My goals are a bit more far-reaching ... getting SlashTNG to support 
> PostgreSQL for a backend (15 years with postgreSQL makes me kinda biased 
> on useful backends), as well as modernizing the code (ie. Apache 2.2 vs 
> 1.x, newer perl modules, etc) ...
> 
> My experiences with OSS tend to be that you can either spend weeks 
> discussing things until everyone gets bored and on ... or you can "just do 
> it" ...
> 
> Personally ... "just do it" tends to get things moving faster ...
> 
> Any objections, speak up ... I'm just trying to push from a "what a cool 
> idea" to "let's get working" ...
> 
> ----
> Marc G. Fournier                        Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A.
> scrappy@...                                     http://www.hub.org
> 
> Yahoo:yscrappy    Skype: hub.org    ICQ:7615664    MSN:scrappy@...
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> The ultimate all-in-one performance toolkit: Intel(R) Parallel Studio XE:
> Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen.
> Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development cycle.
> Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit performance.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb
> _______________________________________________
> Slashcode-general mailing list
> Slashcode-general@...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general

Re: [Slashcode-general] SlashTNG, for lack of better suggestions ...

[Marc G. Fournier <scrappy@hu...>]

On Wed, 9 Feb 2011, Shane Zatezalo wrote:

> Given the name change, the repo has been rebooted:
>
> https://github.com/lottadot/slashtng
>
> No 'live' branch. Just master. Please clone.
>
> Also, if I were you, I would consider using existing, free tools out 
> there for the project, such as:

All of the tools that I've proposed *are* existing, free tools ... but 
tools within our control completely, from the source code up ... except, 
of cource, github ...

The thing is, by hosting it all ourselves, instead of 'outsourcing it', we 
advertise our brand, not Googles, or ...

For every email that someone gets, it will have our domain.

For every URL indexed / searched / directed to, it will have our name.

Don't get me wrong ... I'm not anti-google, but we want the traffic / hits 
pushed towards our domain, not Googles ...


  >
> 1. A Google Groups list for it.
> 2. Github provides a wiki -- but I can't really vouch for it myself.
> 3. an registered irc channel on freenode.
> 4. a homepage that spells all that out, ie http://www.browsercms.org/
> 5. And I don't know that I'd use slashcode for announcements et all for the site, but rather use the google groups for that stuff, and use the VM as a "usable demo site" that auto-rebuild itself once/day that anyone can login and play around in. Personally, I love when open source projects do that, so you can, within 2 minutes of reading about the project, go and play around with it, rather then spending a half hour installing and setting up.
>
> $.02.
>
> Shane
>
> On Feb 8, 2011, at 9:06 PM, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
>
>>
>> In order to get things moving forwarded, and based on what Rob stated in
>> his email, here is the direction I'm proposing for those wishing to move
>> forward ...
>>
>> I have registered slashtng.{org,net,info,com,biz} so that there is little
>> risk of someone else coming along and confusing things.
>>
>> I'm setting up a virtual machine (I own my own hosting company) for
>> slashtng.org that will have:
>>
>> 	SlashCode for announcements / portal
>> 	MediaWiki for Documentation
>> 	phpBB3 for User Forums
>> 	Majordomo2 for mailing list discussions
>>
>> Shane has set up the code on github, and, hopefully, will act as "the
>> maintainer", since he obviously knows something about Git ...
>>
>> I believe George's goal is improving documentation, especially as far as
>> installations are concerned ...
>>
>> My goals are a bit more far-reaching ... getting SlashTNG to support
>> PostgreSQL for a backend (15 years with postgreSQL makes me kinda biased
>> on useful backends), as well as modernizing the code (ie. Apache 2.2 vs
>> 1.x, newer perl modules, etc) ...
>>
>> My experiences with OSS tend to be that you can either spend weeks
>> discussing things until everyone gets bored and on ... or you can "just do
>> it" ...
>>
>> Personally ... "just do it" tends to get things moving faster ...
>>
>> Any objections, speak up ... I'm just trying to push from a "what a cool
>> idea" to "let's get working" ...
>>
>> ----
>> Marc G. Fournier                        Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A.
>> scrappy@...                                     http://www.hub.org
>>
>> Yahoo:yscrappy    Skype: hub.org    ICQ:7615664    MSN:scrappy@...
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> The ultimate all-in-one performance toolkit: Intel(R) Parallel Studio XE:
>> Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen.
>> Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development cycle.
>> Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit performance.
>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb
>> _______________________________________________
>> Slashcode-general mailing list
>> Slashcode-general@...
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> The ultimate all-in-one performance toolkit: Intel(R) Parallel Studio XE:
> Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen.
> Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development cycle.
> Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit performance.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb
> _______________________________________________
> Slashcode-general mailing list
> Slashcode-general@...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general
>

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