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[Slashcode-general] Moderating question

[Drew S. <dr...@pc...>]

	Hey folks,

	Quick one - one of my authors has been deleting posts instead of
moderating them - I've asked him a few times not to, but he's
continuing.  Removing his authors' privileges is not an option - how can
I remove his ability to delete posts?

	I'm running Slash v.1.0.2, I think - I know, I need to upgrade, but
it's working flawlessly and I simply haven't had the time! ;)

	Thanks in advance, and after over one year of running slashcode, thanks
for a great product!

	Cheers,
	- Drew.

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Pacific Corporate Trust Company, Vancouver

Re: [Slashcode-general] performance/memory issues [was: Problems...] (fwd)

[Dave H. <da...@ho...>]

Nathan Vonnahme <na...@th...> writes:

> Delrin wrote to me only but I thought I'd share it with the whole list...


This is a "solved problem" as they say. Use a two-tier apache as laid
out in the mod_perl guide at http://perl.apache.org/guide

With a "lite" apache on the front, you don't care about concurrency as
the front apache processes free up the fat apache processes behind.

Read the book!


> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 10:14:46 -0400
> From: Delrin Kenro <del...@ho...>
> To: na...@th...
> Subject: Re: [Slashcode-general] performance/memory issues [was:
>     Problems...]
> 
> 
> I had the exact same problems. This is due to the size of the "memory
> footprint" used by slashd, and even more importantly. Apache/mod_perl. I
> have a P3 500 w/128MB RAM, and redhat 7.0. I would say that this
> configuration is BARELY suited to running slash, but it can work if you
> have a low concurrency on your site.
> 
> Definately keep your min/max servers very low, don't bother with
> maxrequestsperchild, it won't help. Use ::SizeLimit if you can, I use it,
> though it doesn't work very well.
> 
> MinSpareServers 1
> MaxSpareServers 5
> 
> PerlFixupHandler Apache::SizeLimit
> 
> StartServers 1
> 
> Here's some of the settings I have that work quite well. BUT, also, make
> sure your system is dedicated for slash. What I mean by this is that
> there are no unnecessary processes running that take up memory.
> Especially things like Xfree. If you have a dual boot or something, set
> up a runlevel to work just for slash, that's what I did, and I have
> another to use Xfree.
> 
> The processes still get pretty huge, and consume more and more memory. At
> one time, my apache was taking 33MB of RAM for each process! My machine
> started to swap after a few days, and would just die.
> 
> Now here's what it looks like.
> 
> PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM TIME COMMAND
> 
> 2967 nobody     0   0 10020 5172  4976 S     0.0  4.0   0:00 httpd
> 
> and for slash
> 
> 654 nobody     0   0 14028  13M  1744 S     0.0 10.9   0:44 slashd
> 
> 
> 
> 10MB and 14MB respectably. You can imagine if I was running say 10-12
> apache servers. :)
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Slashcode-general] performance/memory issues [was: Problems...] (fwd)

[Nathan V. <na...@th...>]

Delrin wrote to me only but I thought I'd share it with the whole list...

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 10:14:46 -0400
From: Delrin Kenro <del...@ho...>
To: na...@th...
Subject: Re: [Slashcode-general] performance/memory issues [was:
    Problems...]


I had the exact same problems. This is due to the size of the "memory
footprint" used by slashd, and even more importantly. Apache/mod_perl. I
have a P3 500 w/128MB RAM, and redhat 7.0. I would say that this
configuration is BARELY suited to running slash, but it can work if you
have a low concurrency on your site.

Definately keep your min/max servers very low, don't bother with
maxrequestsperchild, it won't help. Use ::SizeLimit if you can, I use it,
though it doesn't work very well.

MinSpareServers 1
MaxSpareServers 5

PerlFixupHandler Apache::SizeLimit

StartServers 1

Here's some of the settings I have that work quite well. BUT, also, make
sure your system is dedicated for slash. What I mean by this is that
there are no unnecessary processes running that take up memory.
Especially things like Xfree. If you have a dual boot or something, set
up a runlevel to work just for slash, that's what I did, and I have
another to use Xfree.

The processes still get pretty huge, and consume more and more memory. At
one time, my apache was taking 33MB of RAM for each process! My machine
started to swap after a few days, and would just die.

Now here's what it looks like.

PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM TIME COMMAND

2967 nobody     0   0 10020 5172  4976 S     0.0  4.0   0:00 httpd

and for slash

654 nobody     0   0 14028  13M  1744 S     0.0 10.9   0:44 slashd



10MB and 14MB respectably. You can imagine if I was running say 10-12
apache servers. :)

Re: [Slashcode-general] Microsoft Port

[Patrick G. <cap...@sl...>]

Blue Rain wrote:
> 
> By porting I mean porting slash to a different language (ASP or Java or C++ or C#, ...), that kind of thing. I'm not looking for a slash clone or something else to run on the microsoft platform. I want the challenge of converting slash to a different language on the MS platform.
> 

No offence taken :)

As far as porting it to some other language.... I can't even think of
doing that, not because it's not something worth pursuing, but because
it's distrationary to getting Slash improved and feature laden.
Currently, we're feverishly working to get this project (2.2) released
and stable. For this project, it's better that we focus on improving the
existing code and adding features and other improvements. There are
always a million other things to do, but if we don't focus on the
project as a whole, we get distracted and nothing ever gets done. The
language that the code is written is irrelevant - the functionality of
the project is the paramount task. The best thing that anyone can do is
to help us install, use, test, bugfix and whatever else, this code, and
work with the language it's currently written in. This is not an
endorsement of perl or detriment of another. It's pragmatism.


> I hope none of the slash team take offence to this?
> 
> On Wed, 6 Jun 2001 05:09:57 +0900, Rob "CmdrTaco" Malda <ma...@sl...> wrote:
> Allright, if people want to endorse other things besides Slash thats great,
> > but I don't want that cluttering this list.  Take it to private email.  There
> > are 50 other weblog programs out there and all are very nice, but this is
> > slashcode-general.  Anything besides Slashcode is offtopic.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wednesday 06 June 2001 04:46, Jeff Newton wrote:
> > > Alessio:
> > >
> > > If you are looking at a "looks like slash" web portal for Windows take a
> > > look at My PHP Nuke  at http://myphpnuke.com/ .
> > > They have great looking system that runs on PHP 4 and MySQL 3.   The
> > > current version is 1.8 with 6 update fixes and version 2 coming out in the
> > > next month.  I run Win2000 server on one of my machines and have several
> > > sites online using this setup.  Check out my nephews site
> > > at  http://www.phantomcow.com/ .  The theme he is using is Black Road, but
> > > they have a SlashDot (look-alike) theme also.  My nephew begged me to check
> > > out PHP and MySQL, and I haven't looked back - it's worked out great!!
> > >
> > > Jeff
> > >
> > > At 12:04 PM 6/5/2001 +0300, Alessio Bragadini wrote:
> > > >Blue Rain wrote:
> > > > > I'm playing with the idea of porting slash to MS.
> > > >
> > > >What do you mean by 'porting'? Slash is a software that runs on MySql,
> > > >Apache, mod_perl, Perl. None of this building blocks can really be
> > > >changed, but all of them are available for a Windows environment.
> > > >
> > > >So, it's first a system issue, having a running mod_perl on Apache on
> > > >Windows (which I tried a couple of years ago and it was not easy at all)
> > > >and all Perl packages in place. Then I believe you should check which
> > > >areas of the code are Unix-specific. I don't understand which changes
> > > >needs to be done to the database.
> > > >
> > > >If you don't want Slash, but something-that-looks-like-Slash there are
> > > >other softwares that are more easily installable, for example PHP-based,
> > > >since they connect less with the underlining system.
> > > >
> > > >--
> > > >Alessio F. Bragadini            al...@al...
> > > >APL Financial Services          http://village.albourne.com
> > > >Nicosia, Cyprus                 phone: +357-2-755750
> > > >
> > > >"It is more complicated than you think"
> > > >                 -- The Eighth Networking Truth from RFC 1925
> > > >
> > > >_______________________________________________
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> > > >Sla...@li...
> > > >http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general
> > >
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Re: [Slashcode-general] Microsoft Port

[Alessio B. <al...@al...>]

Blue Rain wrote:

> By porting I mean porting slash to a different language (ASP or Java or C++ or C#, ...), that kind of thing.

Slash is very Perl-based. Slash 2 is also very-mod_perl-based. So
switching language is even more complicated than writing a new
application from scratch. Not impossible, ofcourse, but IMHO not worth
it.

Good luck.

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APL Financial Services		http://village.albourne.com
Nicosia, Cyprus		 	phone: +357-2-755750

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Re: [Slashcode-general] Porting

[Ben S. -- M. <ac...@ma...>]

on 6/6/01 12:46 AM, Blue Rain at blu...@mi... wrote:

> By porting I mean porting slash to a different language (ASP or Java or C++ or
> C#, ...), that kind of thing. I'm not looking for a slash clone or something
> else to run on the microsoft platform. I want the challenge of converting
> slash to a different language on the MS platform.
> 
> I hope none of the slash team take offence to this?

They take offense to you discussing it here. This mailing list is set up for
people who want to talk about Slashcode, not a port or a similar product or
anything else unrelated to the code they write. It uses perl and mysql, not
some other "MS programming language". This list is here as a resource for
those of us who appreciate the fruits of the challenge that Rob and the
entire team have already created.

And now, on to my real question. Has anyone played with Slashcode on MacOS X
or Darwin yet? I'm getting ready to try to see if all of the necessary parts
will compile and run Slashcode, to feature in a story on MacSlash. Any
advice or tips from anyone?

Thanks,

Ben

--
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Executive Editor, MacSlash
www.MacSlash.com
be...@ma...

re: Re: [Slashcode-general] Microsoft Port

[Blue R. <blu...@mi...>]

By porting I mean porting slash to a different language (ASP or Java or C++ or C#, ...), that kind of thing. I'm not looking for a slash clone or something else to run on the microsoft platform. I want the challenge of converting slash to a different language on the MS platform.

I hope none of the slash team take offence to this?


On Wed, 6 Jun 2001 05:09:57 +0900, Rob "CmdrTaco" Malda <ma...@sl...> wrote:
Allright, if people want to endorse other things besides Slash thats great, 
> but I don't want that cluttering this list.  Take it to private email.  There 
> are 50 other weblog programs out there and all are very nice, but this is 
> slashcode-general.  Anything besides Slashcode is offtopic.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> On Wednesday 06 June 2001 04:46, Jeff Newton wrote:
> > Alessio:
> >
> > If you are looking at a "looks like slash" web portal for Windows take a
> > look at My PHP Nuke  at http://myphpnuke.com/ .
> > They have great looking system that runs on PHP 4 and MySQL 3.   The
> > current version is 1.8 with 6 update fixes and version 2 coming out in the
> > next month.  I run Win2000 server on one of my machines and have several
> > sites online using this setup.  Check out my nephews site
> > at  http://www.phantomcow.com/ .  The theme he is using is Black Road, but
> > they have a SlashDot (look-alike) theme also.  My nephew begged me to check
> > out PHP and MySQL, and I haven't looked back - it's worked out great!!
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> > At 12:04 PM 6/5/2001 +0300, Alessio Bragadini wrote:
> > >Blue Rain wrote:
> > > > I'm playing with the idea of porting slash to MS.
> > >
> > >What do you mean by 'porting'? Slash is a software that runs on MySql,
> > >Apache, mod_perl, Perl. None of this building blocks can really be
> > >changed, but all of them are available for a Windows environment.
> > >
> > >So, it's first a system issue, having a running mod_perl on Apache on
> > >Windows (which I tried a couple of years ago and it was not easy at all)
> > >and all Perl packages in place. Then I believe you should check which
> > >areas of the code are Unix-specific. I don't understand which changes
> > >needs to be done to the database.
> > >
> > >If you don't want Slash, but something-that-looks-like-Slash there are
> > >other softwares that are more easily installable, for example PHP-based,
> > >since they connect less with the underlining system.
> > >
> > >--
> > >Alessio F. Bragadini            al...@al...
> > >APL Financial Services          http://village.albourne.com
> > >Nicosia, Cyprus                 phone: +357-2-755750
> > >
> > >"It is more complicated than you think"
> > >                 -- The Eighth Networking Truth from RFC 1925
> > >
> > >_______________________________________________
> > >Slashcode-general mailing list
> > >Sla...@li...
> > >http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Sla...@li...
> > http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general
> 
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[Slashcode-general] zombie slashd's

[Jamie M. <ja...@mc...>]

na...@th... (Nathan Vonnahme) writes:

> we still get zombied slashds every day.  I have mostly assumed
> it's a problem on our end since nobody else has been asking
> about it.  But maybe it's not?

No, everyone's going to get the zombie slashd's.  They're harmless
(until you get 30,000 of them, good luck :).

Slash 2.2 includes a slashd rewrite that fixes this.  This is low
priority (since harmless) but if I get energetic I might write a
patch for 2.0 to properly reap its children.  Or, if anyone wants
to submit a patch...

Re: [Slashcode-general] performance/memory issues [was: Problems...]

[Nathan V. <na...@th...>]

We have had similar issues with a box that only has 128 mb of RAM.  Try
these things:
  1.  buy more memory!
  2.  in httpd.conf,
      turn Timeout way down (e.g. 60).  This will limit how long a process
will be tied up with a request.
      turn MinSpareServers, MaxSpareServers, and StartServers down
(eg 2,4,4).  This will limit the number of httpd processes.
      turn MaxClients down (eg 12 or even less)
  3.  convince slashd to update less often (in the variables table)
  4.  use Apache::SizeLimit?  (I haven't)

The main issue is the way mod_perl works:  it means perl is compiled into
each httpd process, and as they run the slash code they cache it all,
compiled, so they get very large.  On our machine (redhat 7.0) when memory
got low it started killing random processes to stay alive, and that caused
lots of confusion.  Slashd is a pig too.  But we finally got it mostly
stable on 128 megs, and now with 192 it is even more mostly stable :)

Another thing is that yesterday we discovered two startup scripts for
slashd - 'slash' and 'slashd'.  I think the name changed during in one of
the alpha releases.  Anyway removing one of them helped, though we still
get zombied slashds every day.  I have mostly assumed it's a problem on
our end since nobody else has been asking about it.  But maybe it's not?

-n
-- 
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senior web developer        third sector technologies
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On Tue, 5 Jun 2001, Alphabet wrote:

> Hello,
> I have successfully installed Slash 2.0 on my linux box running redhat 7.0.
>  I am using mysql 3.23.38 as a database server.
>
> My problem is when I start-up slash, it runs great for the first few minutes,
> then it starts bogging down the linux box to the point that even typing ps -ef
> gives a segfault, and restarting the box takes an hour... :/
>
> I have killed any non-essential processes and that seems to only delay the slow
> down by a minute.
>
> I'm sure if I had more ram I wouldn't experience such a slow down.  I am running
> with 128MB.  The documentation suggested with tuning I could run Slash faster,
> but I cannot find any documentation on it.  Suggestions?
>
> Thanks!
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Sla...@li...
> http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general
>

Re: [Slashcode-general] Microsoft Port

[Rob C. M. <ma...@sl...>]

Allright, if people want to endorse other things besides Slash thats great, 
but I don't want that cluttering this list.  Take it to private email.  There 
are 50 other weblog programs out there and all are very nice, but this is 
slashcode-general.  Anything besides Slashcode is offtopic.

Thanks.



On Wednesday 06 June 2001 04:46, Jeff Newton wrote:
> Alessio:
>
> If you are looking at a "looks like slash" web portal for Windows take a
> look at My PHP Nuke  at http://myphpnuke.com/ .
> They have great looking system that runs on PHP 4 and MySQL 3.   The
> current version is 1.8 with 6 update fixes and version 2 coming out in the
> next month.  I run Win2000 server on one of my machines and have several
> sites online using this setup.  Check out my nephews site
> at  http://www.phantomcow.com/ .  The theme he is using is Black Road, but
> they have a SlashDot (look-alike) theme also.  My nephew begged me to check
> out PHP and MySQL, and I haven't looked back - it's worked out great!!
>
> Jeff
>
> At 12:04 PM 6/5/2001 +0300, Alessio Bragadini wrote:
> >Blue Rain wrote:
> > > I'm playing with the idea of porting slash to MS.
> >
> >What do you mean by 'porting'? Slash is a software that runs on MySql,
> >Apache, mod_perl, Perl. None of this building blocks can really be
> >changed, but all of them are available for a Windows environment.
> >
> >So, it's first a system issue, having a running mod_perl on Apache on
> >Windows (which I tried a couple of years ago and it was not easy at all)
> >and all Perl packages in place. Then I believe you should check which
> >areas of the code are Unix-specific. I don't understand which changes
> >needs to be done to the database.
> >
> >If you don't want Slash, but something-that-looks-like-Slash there are
> >other softwares that are more easily installable, for example PHP-based,
> >since they connect less with the underlining system.
> >
> >--
> >Alessio F. Bragadini            al...@al...
> >APL Financial Services          http://village.albourne.com
> >Nicosia, Cyprus                 phone: +357-2-755750
> >
> >"It is more complicated than you think"
> >                 -- The Eighth Networking Truth from RFC 1925
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >Slashcode-general mailing list
> >Sla...@li...
> >http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Sla...@li...
> http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general

Re: [Slashcode-general] Microsoft Port

[Jeff N. <jpn...@gt...>]

Alessio:

If you are looking at a "looks like slash" web portal for Windows take a 
look at My PHP Nuke  at http://myphpnuke.com/ .
They have great looking system that runs on PHP 4 and MySQL 3.   The 
current version is 1.8 with 6 update fixes and version 2 coming out in the 
next month.  I run Win2000 server on one of my machines and have several 
sites online using this setup.  Check out my nephews site 
at  http://www.phantomcow.com/ .  The theme he is using is Black Road, but 
they have a SlashDot (look-alike) theme also.  My nephew begged me to check 
out PHP and MySQL, and I haven't looked back - it's worked out great!!

Jeff



At 12:04 PM 6/5/2001 +0300, Alessio Bragadini wrote:
>Blue Rain wrote:
>
> > I'm playing with the idea of porting slash to MS.
>
>What do you mean by 'porting'? Slash is a software that runs on MySql,
>Apache, mod_perl, Perl. None of this building blocks can really be
>changed, but all of them are available for a Windows environment.
>
>So, it's first a system issue, having a running mod_perl on Apache on
>Windows (which I tried a couple of years ago and it was not easy at all)
>and all Perl packages in place. Then I believe you should check which
>areas of the code are Unix-specific. I don't understand which changes
>needs to be done to the database.
>
>If you don't want Slash, but something-that-looks-like-Slash there are
>other softwares that are more easily installable, for example PHP-based,
>since they connect less with the underlining system.
>
>--
>Alessio F. Bragadini            al...@al...
>APL Financial Services          http://village.albourne.com
>Nicosia, Cyprus                 phone: +357-2-755750
>
>"It is more complicated than you think"
>                 -- The Eighth Networking Truth from RFC 1925
>
>_______________________________________________
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>Sla...@li...
>http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general

[Slashcode-general] Problems...

[Alphabet<alp...@te...>]

Hello,
I have successfully installed Slash 2.0 on my linux box running redhat 7.0.
 I am using mysql 3.23.38 as a database server.  

My problem is when I start-up slash, it runs great for the first few minutes,
then it starts bogging down the linux box to the point that even typing ps -ef
gives a segfault, and restarting the box takes an hour... :/

I have killed any non-essential processes and that seems to only delay the slow
down by a minute.  

I'm sure if I had more ram I wouldn't experience such a slow down.  I am running
with 128MB.  The documentation suggested with tuning I could run Slash faster,
but I cannot find any documentation on it.  Suggestions?

Thanks!

Re: [Slashcode-general] Microsoft Port

[Alessio B. <al...@al...>]

Blue Rain wrote:

> I'm playing with the idea of porting slash to MS. 

What do you mean by 'porting'? Slash is a software that runs on MySql,
Apache, mod_perl, Perl. None of this building blocks can really be
changed, but all of them are available for a Windows environment.

So, it's first a system issue, having a running mod_perl on Apache on
Windows (which I tried a couple of years ago and it was not easy at all)
and all Perl packages in place. Then I believe you should check which
areas of the code are Unix-specific. I don't understand which changes
needs to be done to the database.

If you don't want Slash, but something-that-looks-like-Slash there are
other softwares that are more easily installable, for example PHP-based,
since they connect less with the underlining system.

-- 
Alessio F. Bragadini		al...@al...
APL Financial Services		http://village.albourne.com
Nicosia, Cyprus		 	phone: +357-2-755750

"It is more complicated than you think"
		-- The Eighth Networking Truth from RFC 1925

[Slashcode-general] Microsoft Port

[Blue R. <blu...@mi...>]

Hi All

I hope this is the right place to post this message, if not apologies and could someone point me to the right place.

I'm playing with the idea of porting slash to MS. I've got the database done and have started looking at the code. And I've discovered that it's going to be quite a daunting task. I was hoping someone out there had some pointers on where to start? Or maybe some high level documentation on the architecture and how everything fits together?

Thanks
Greg

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Re: [Slashcode-general] Authentication against an external database

[Brian A. <br...@ta...>]

Alessio Bragadini wrote:
> I would like to do the Slash (2) authentication against a different
> database than the Slash one: username and password should be somewhere
> else. Is this currently possible?
I have a story running on Monday on slashcode about one way that
I have done it (basically I use symbolic links betwee the databases).

	-Brian

[Slashcode-general] Authentication against an external database

[Alessio B. <al...@al...>]

Hi everyone,
I would like to do the Slash (2) authentication against a different
database than the Slash one: username and password should be somewhere
else. Is this currently possible?

There were some discussions about the possibility to have multiple
authentication methods, but I don't see any 'hook' in the basecode.

Thanks

-- 
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Aggregated Technologies Ltd	http://www.sevenseas.org/~alessio
Nicosia, Cyprus		 	phone: +357-2-755750

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[Slashcode-general] 'javascript' headline syndication

[Bruno P. <br...@po...>]

This is an alternative system for syndicating news headlines from a
slash site, in addition to the existing rss and rdf methods.

Here's an example, paste this snippet of javascript into a normal html
document and open it with a javascript enabled web-browser (sorry this
isn't a slash-site, the one I'm working on isn't public yet):

    <script type="text/javascript" language="JavaScript"
    src="http://mkdoc.com/headline.js"></script>

The effect is to pull in the current headlines and display them in the
page like a slashbox. We have this system working successfully with
another (non-slash) news site <http://www.labourstart.org/>

There's a little explanation of what is going-on in this page here:
<http://mkdoc.com/help/howto/syndicate_news/>

We've tried encouraging people to use rss feeds to fetch headlines and
failed almost entirely. At least with this, anyone with a html editor
can simply and easily embed your headlines in their site.

Disadvantages:

- javascript is such a naff technology.

- if your server is down, it breaks everyone else's site.

- rdf is a cool technology, javascript headlines discourage people from
  doing the job properly.

- it only works for people who have javascript enabled.

- it increases the number of hits on your server, as javascript isn't
  cached by any browser except opera (which never clears it).

- YMMV, don't blame me if it all goes wrong.

Bruno
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Re: [Slashcode-general] errors loading Bundle::Slash

[Chris N. <pu...@po...>]

At 15:43 -0500 2001.05.29, Wayne Sitton wrote:
>I'm running debian(woody)
>
>I had errors loading Bundle::Slash
>
>installation problems:
>  Bundle::CPAN Bundle::LWP Bundle::DBD::mysql Apache::Cookie Template and
>  the following items had problems during recursive bundle calls:
>  Bundle::libnet DBD::mysql Data::Dumper LWP Mysql
>
>has anyone had these errors before?

Those are not errors.  Those are messages reporting what modules had
errors.  You'd need to look back at each one to see what the actual errors
were.

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[Slashcode-general] errors loading Bundle::Slash

[Wayne S. <wa...@te...>]

I'm running debian(woody)

I had errors loading Bundle::Slash

installation problems:
  Bundle::CPAN Bundle::LWP Bundle::DBD::mysql Apache::Cookie Template and
  the following items had problems during recursive bundle calls:
  Bundle::libnet DBD::mysql Data::Dumper LWP Mysql

has anyone had these errors before?

Wayne

Re: [Slashcode-general] problems installing mod_perl?

[Dave H. <da...@ho...>]

"Brendan B. Johnson" <br...@br...> writes:

> I'm trying to install Slash_2.0.0 on a RackSpace machine running their
> version of RedHat.  I've installed all the Perl modules and slash and am
> now trying to install mod_perl with Apache.  The error I am getting when
> trying to run apache is:
> [root@server1 apache]# bin/apachectl configtest
> Syntax error on line 6 of /usr/local/slash/httpd/slash.conf:
> Invalid command 'PerlHandler', perhaps mis-spelled or defined by a module
> not included in the server configuration
> 
> I have double-checked the Perl modules by trying to reinstall each one from
> CPAN, but they are all up-to-date.
> I tried installing mod_perl using the following commands:
> perl Makefile.PL APACHE_SRC=/usr/src/apache_1.3.19/src DO_HTTPD=1
> USE_APACI=1 PERL_MARK_WHERE=1 EVERYTHING=1 APACHE_PREFIX=/usr/local/apache
> ADD_MODULE=vhost_alias,env,log_config,log_agent,log_referer,mime,negotiation
> ,status,info,include,autoindex,dir,cgi,asis,imap,actions,userdir,alias,rewri
> te,access,auth,auth_anon,auth_db,digest,expires,headers,usertrack,so,setenvif

Take a look at your config.status?

Also, are you doing all these things as .so? In which case make sure
you've got the AddModule stuff.

Finally, I would STRONGLY recommend a two tier Apache setup as
speicifed in Stas Bekman's guide: http://perl.apache.org/guide
this means you will be able to strictly control how much memory you
give over to the mod_perled Apache. I would NEVER have a mod_perled
server internet facing. Well, marginally more than I would any kind of
NT box.


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Re: [Slashcode-general] perl mods on slashcode

[Paul H H. <pa...@25...>]

> I decided to give up on php-nuke since I cannot get apache to
recognize
> php4.
>
No offense, but if you can't get PHP-Nuke to work (a simple php script)
you don't have a snowball's chance in hell to get Slash working.

Then again you might try adding each perl module by hand if Budle
::Slash is giving you trouble. Download the modules from
http://cpan.perl.org and compile each one. I had to do that on some *BSD
systems (not Debian though).

RE: [Slashcode-general] perl cpan problems

[techlists <tec...@te...>]

OK, I got that problem fixed!  Now the next.
In case I ahven't said this before I'm running Debian 2.2
My next step was to install Bundle::Slash

That errors out...I think I'm gonn go insane!
It errors on these packages

>Bundle summary: The following items seem to have had installation problems:
>Bundle::LWP Bundle::DBD::mysql XML::Parser Apache::Cookie Template

The weird thing is earlier I had done an install XML::Pasrer and it
installed successfully.  So what is going on now?

Wayne

-----Original Message-----
From: sla...@li...
[mailto:sla...@li...]On Behalf Of Dave
Hodgkinson
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 1:22 PM
To: sla...@li...
Subject: Re: [Slashcode-general] perl cpan problems


"Wayne Sitton" <wa...@te...> writes:

> I decided to give up on php-nuke since I cannot get apache to recognize
> php4.
>
> So, I've gone to trying to configure slashcode.  Except now I'm having
> problems  loading certain modules from cpan.  I can't load Compress::Zlib
or
> XML::Parser it errors saying that it must be some kind of bogus file.  It
> also complains that it cannot load some file because I need to load
> Term::ReadKey, but when i try to install that I get an EOF error.  I am
> thinking the problem must be in the server CPAN is pulling from.
> How do I change that? Or, does anyone have another suggestion?

There's a CPAN/Config.pm in the perl tree. Someting like:

/usr/lib/perl5/5.6.0/CPAN/Config.pm

I'd also strongly suggest wiping your .cpan directory (and making sure
you've got the requisite space in that partition!).



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RE: [Slashcode-general] perl cpan problems

[techlists <tec...@te...>]

Thanks guys for this stupid mistake on my part.  I found the problem 2 sec.
after I sent the email

Sorry,

and thanks for the help!


Wayne
-----Original Message-----
From: sla...@li...
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Nandor
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 3:52 PM
To: sla...@li...
Cc: sla...@li...
Subject: RE: [Slashcode-general] perl cpan problems


At 15:28 -0500 2001.05.27, techlists wrote:
>After wiping everything in the .cpan directory some problems went away.
Now
>the only one that keeps giving me a problem is Compress::Zlib
>when running the install I get

>Zlib.xs:25: zlib.h: No such file or directory

>Any clues?

As noted in INSTALL, you need the zlib development library installed on
your system.  The URL for it is also in INSTALL.

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RE: [Slashcode-general] perl cpan problems

[Chris N. <pu...@po...>]

At 15:28 -0500 2001.05.27, techlists wrote:
>After wiping everything in the .cpan directory some problems went away.  Now
>the only one that keeps giving me a problem is Compress::Zlib
>when running the install I get

>Zlib.xs:25: zlib.h: No such file or directory

>Any clues?

As noted in INSTALL, you need the zlib development library installed on
your system.  The URL for it is also in INSTALL.

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RE: [Slashcode-general] perl cpan problems

[techlists <tec...@te...>]

After wiping everything in the .cpan directory some problems went away.  Now
the only one that keeps giving me a problem is Compress::Zlib
when running the install I get

Writing Makefile for Compress::Zlib
mkdir blib
mkdir blib/lib
mkdir blib/lib/Compress
mkdir blib/arch
mkdir blib/arch/auto
mkdir blib/arch/auto/Compress
mkdir blib/arch/auto/Compress/Zlib
mkdir blib/lib/auto
mkdir blib/lib/auto/Compress
mkdir blib/lib/auto/Compress/Zlib
mkdir blib/man3
cp Zlib.pm blib/lib/Compress/Zlib.pm
AutoSplitting blib/lib/Compress/Zlib.pm (blib/lib/auto/Compress/Zlib)
/usr/bin/perl -I/usr/lib/perl5/5.005/i386-linux -I/usr/lib/perl5/5.005
/usr/lib/perl5/5.005
/ExtUtils/xsubpp  -typemap /usr/lib/perl5/5.005/ExtUtils/typemap -typemap
typemap Zlib.xs >
xstmp.c && mv xstmp.c Zlib.c
cc -c -I./zlib-1.1.3 -Dbool=char -DHAS_BOOL -D_REENTRANT -DDEBIAN -I/usr/loc
al/include -O2
   -DVERSION=\"1.12\" -DXS_VERSION=\"1.12\" -fPIC -I/usr/lib/perl5/5.005/i38
6-linux/CORE  Z
lib.c
Zlib.xs:25: zlib.h: No such file or directory
make: *** [Zlib.o] Error 1
  /usr/bin/make  -- NOT OK
Running make test
  Oops, make had returned bad status
Running make install
  Oops, make had returned bad status

Any clues?

Wayne

-----Original Message-----
From: sla...@li...
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Hodgkinson
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 1:22 PM
To: sla...@li...
Subject: Re: [Slashcode-general] perl cpan problems


"Wayne Sitton" <wa...@te...> writes:

> I decided to give up on php-nuke since I cannot get apache to recognize
> php4.
>
> So, I've gone to trying to configure slashcode.  Except now I'm having
> problems  loading certain modules from cpan.  I can't load Compress::Zlib
or
> XML::Parser it errors saying that it must be some kind of bogus file.  It
> also complains that it cannot load some file because I need to load
> Term::ReadKey, but when i try to install that I get an EOF error.  I am
> thinking the problem must be in the server CPAN is pulling from.
> How do I change that? Or, does anyone have another suggestion?

There's a CPAN/Config.pm in the perl tree. Someting like:

/usr/lib/perl5/5.6.0/CPAN/Config.pm

I'd also strongly suggest wiping your .cpan directory (and making sure
you've got the requisite space in that partition!).



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