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From: Barry C. <bc...@i1...> - 2001-07-30 03:29:14
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At 06:42 PM 7/29/2001 -0700, Brian Aker wrote: >Untar plugin into /usr/local/slash/plugins >perl Makefile.pl in the directory. >Run install-plugin, restart. Restart Apache, slashd, all of the above, or reboot the whole machine? barry |
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From: Brian A. <br...@ta...> - 2001-07-30 01:56:05
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Micah Yoder wrote: > I want to install the Jobs plugin for travtalk so that people around the > world that might want to temporarily hire a traveler could post it there. :-) > > Is there a documented way to install plugins into running sites that I'm > missing? Untar plugin into /usr/local/slash/plugins perl Makefile.pl in the directory. Run install-plugin, restart. -Brian |
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From: Micah Y. <yo...@ho...> - 2001-07-30 01:14:00
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Hi, I want to install the Jobs plugin for travtalk so that people around the world that might want to temporarily hire a traveler could post it there. :-) Is there a documented way to install plugins into running sites that I'm missing? Or do I have to (psuedocode): 1. mysql < mysql_schema.sql 2. template-tool (install) templates 3. copy Jobs.pl to the site htdocs (or symlink it to plugins/jobs) 4. copy Jobs.pm to the same directory as Slash::Utils and the others Thanks for any pointers, Micah -- Like to travel? http://TravTalk.org Micah Yoder Internet Development http://yoderdev.com |
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From: Ralf <rr...@jo...> - 2001-07-27 10:13:58
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To set a Slashbox as a DEAFAULT box, thats done in the Blocks section in the admin menu, Ussually set the order number to a positive value if you want it to be displayed as default and a negative number if you just want it to be there for a user to add it to his custom homepage. When setting default boxes (positve order number) make sure that no 2 boxes have the same number, ordernummer as the name implies it sets the order in which the boxes apear. If you are asking regading the look, Alvaro is right its the Fancybox template or something like that. -----Original Message----- Now that I got everything working ... I can't seem to find a way to configure the DEFAULT settings for the slashboxes, e.g. which ones to show a anonymous/non-logged in user. I'm probably missing it going through the templates and the other sections, but I just can't seem to find it, any ideas? Jason _______________________________________________ Slashcode-general mailing list Sla...@li... http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general |
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From: Ralf <rr...@jo...> - 2001-07-27 10:00:40
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>I suggest that 1) you fix your computer clock and 2) >join the >slashcode-i18n list. ooops, just flashed a new BIOS, I knew I forgot something to do after that, thanx |
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From: Alvaro d. C. <ac...@ba...> - 2001-07-27 09:59:34
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El d_ 26 Jul 2001 15:25:30 -0700, Jason Joy escribi_ > I want to thank everyone on this list for their help so far, sorry I > haven't written back to you regarding your suggestions, but they have > worked thus far. > > Now that I got everything working ... > > I can't seem to find a way to configure the DEFAULT settings for the > slashboxes, e.g. which ones to show a anonymous/non-logged in user. I'm > probably missing it going through the templates and the other sections, > but I just can't seem to find it, any ideas? I think that the fancybox template control how slashboxes looks. Good luck -- Alvaro > > Jason > > > > _______________________________________________ > Slashcode-general mailing list > Sla...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general > |
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From: Alvaro d. C. <ac...@ba...> - 2001-07-27 09:58:16
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El d_ 26 Jul 2001 11:06:09 -0700, Will Fladwood escribi_
> When I attempt to run the "{install-slashsite" portion of the install I get the following error:
You need to install XML::Parser module and all the others that you can
read in
the INSTALL file.
Good luck!
-- Alvaro
>
> Can't locate XML/Parser.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/i5
> 86-linux /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.6.1 /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/i586-li
> nux /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1 /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl .) at /u
> sr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/i586-linux/Slash/Utility.pm line 38.
> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/i586-l
> inux/Slash/Utility.pm line 38.
> Compilation failed in require at /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/i586-linux
> /Slash/DB/Utility.pm line 9.
> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/i586-l
> inux/Slash/DB/Utility.pm line 9.
> Compilation failed in require at /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/i586-linux
> /Slash/DB.pm line 10.
> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/i586-l
> inux/Slash/DB.pm line 10.
> Compilation failed in require at bin/install-slashsite line 18.
> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at bin/install-slashsite line 18.
>
> If anyone has any suggestions they would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Will Fladwood
>
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From: Alessio B. <al...@al...> - 2001-07-27 09:56:33
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Jason Joy wrote: > I can't seem to find a way to configure the DEFAULT settings for the > slashboxes, e.g. which ones to show a anonymous/non-logged in user. You have to update the database. Connect using mysql's command line tool (mysql) or any other client and change the value of the exboxes field of the users_index row for the anonymous user (usually it's uid=1 if you haven't changed it): update users_index set exboxes = "'box1','box2','box3'" where uid=1; -- Alessio F. Bragadini al...@al... APL Financial Services http://village.albourne.com Nicosia, Cyprus phone: +357-2-755750 "It is more complicated than you think" -- The Eighth Networking Truth from RFC 1925 |
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From: Alessio B. <al...@al...> - 2001-07-27 09:48:26
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Ralf wrote: > I know there has been talk around here about internationalization, has any > progress been made? any attemps? I suggest that 1) you fix your computer clock and 2) join the slashcode-i18n list. -- Alessio F. Bragadini al...@al... APL Financial Services http://village.albourne.com Nicosia, Cyprus phone: +357-2-755750 "It is more complicated than you think" -- The Eighth Networking Truth from RFC 1925 |
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From: Ralf <rr...@jo...> - 2001-07-27 09:38:24
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Well have the other question answered, aparently Slashd needed a restart, so
they now show up.
However in slash pre2.0 you had blocks that allowed you to drastically
change the apearance of each section, how is it done in 2.0? I'm trying to
use sections in order to provide the site in different languages.
I'm thinking of remaking specific *.pl files so atht they would pull the
language specific templates, like here in the user.pl....
} elsif ($op eq 'userlogin' && !$user->{is_anon}) {
userInfo($user->{uid}, $user->{nickname});
is the "userInfo" the template name?? if so I could append the language
letter and turn it into duserInfo and create the specific template.
However this would create some problems, like user selectable boxes, all of
them would show up at once, so if you have like 3 languages and around 20
boxes for each language... well you get the picture...
I know there has been talk around here about internationalization, has any
progress been made? any attemps?
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From: Ralf <rr...@jo...> - 2001-07-27 08:32:24
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HI, How do you implement sections in 2.0? I created a new section, and as in pre 2.0 slash I coppied blocks, but nothing shows up... Are there any docs on how to implements the sections under 2.0? Thanx Ralf |
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From: <as...@en...> - 2001-07-27 06:40:30
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Hello, I see that "+" works as "and" in search strings, but is there a code for "or"? Adam Khan as...@en... Vendor Machine Maintenance, The Slash Motel |
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From: John S. <jo...@eu...> - 2001-07-27 01:19:47
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Hi All, I've just installed slashcode and it is functioning properly however I've noticed that there are about 10-20 mysql processes running on the system and I was just wondering if that was normal or if I made an error in the configuration. It appears to be running fine from the web but I was concerned about the processes. (The system is a 400mhz box with 192 RAM.) Thanks, Joey. Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com |
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From: Jason J. <ky...@us...> - 2001-07-26 22:25:36
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I want to thank everyone on this list for their help so far, sorry I haven't written back to you regarding your suggestions, but they have worked thus far. Now that I got everything working ... I can't seem to find a way to configure the DEFAULT settings for the slashboxes, e.g. which ones to show a anonymous/non-logged in user. I'm probably missing it going through the templates and the other sections, but I just can't seem to find it, any ideas? Jason |
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From: Will F. <wi...@bi...> - 2001-07-26 18:08:37
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When I attempt to run the "{install-slashsite" portion of the install I =
get the following error:
Can't locate XML/Parser.pm in @INC (@INC contains: =
/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/i5
86-linux /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.6.1 =
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/i586-li
nux /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1 /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl =
.) at /u
sr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/i586-linux/Slash/Utility.pm line 38.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at =
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/i586-l
inux/Slash/Utility.pm line 38.
Compilation failed in require at =
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/i586-linux
/Slash/DB/Utility.pm line 9.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at =
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/i586-l
inux/Slash/DB/Utility.pm line 9.
Compilation failed in require at =
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/i586-linux
/Slash/DB.pm line 10.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at =
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/i586-l
inux/Slash/DB.pm line 10.
Compilation failed in require at bin/install-slashsite line 18.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at bin/install-slashsite line 18.
If anyone has any suggestions they would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Will Fladwood
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From: Alvaro d. C. <ac...@ba...> - 2001-07-26 14:12:09
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El d_ 26 Jul 2001 15:03:01 +0100, Alex McLintock escribi_ > Let me ask a slightly different question suggested by the "multiple slash servers" > discussion. > > I want to copy my existing slash site (<plug>http://news.DiverseBooks.com</plug>) > to a development/backup version of the same site so that my colleague and I > can try things out without messing up the existing site. > > If the hostname is hardcoded into the database then I can't just do a database copy > onto a fresh slash installation - at least not without faking the hostname of > the test machine to be the same as the production machine :-( > > Make sense? What do other people do? I dump the database in a sql file and then replace there the name of the hostname1 with hostname2. The you can use this data to create the development system. And if you want also to have the static pages, you need to change the writestatus to the stories so they are generated by slashd. But in slashcode 2.0 it seems the static pages are disabled so you don't have to do it. Cheers -- Alvaro > > Alex > > > ===== > Alex McLintock al...@OW... Open Source Consultancy in London > OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ > DR WHO COMPETITION: http://www.diversebooks.com/cgi-bin/caption/captions.cgi?date=200104 > Get Your XML T-Shirt <t-shirt/> at http://www.inversity.co.uk/ > > ____________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk > or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie > > _______________________________________________ > Slashcode-general mailing list > Sla...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general > |
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From: <al...@ya...> - 2001-07-26 14:03:01
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Let me ask a slightly different question suggested by the "multiple slash servers" discussion. I want to copy my existing slash site (<plug>http://news.DiverseBooks.com</plug>) to a development/backup version of the same site so that my colleague and I can try things out without messing up the existing site. If the hostname is hardcoded into the database then I can't just do a database copy onto a fresh slash installation - at least not without faking the hostname of the test machine to be the same as the production machine :-( Make sense? What do other people do? Alex ===== Alex McLintock al...@OW... Open Source Consultancy in London OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ DR WHO COMPETITION: http://www.diversebooks.com/cgi-bin/caption/captions.cgi?date=200104 Get Your XML T-Shirt <t-shirt/> at http://www.inversity.co.uk/ ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie |
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From: Alessio B. <al...@al...> - 2001-07-26 13:40:35
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"Martin, James S." wrote: > It seems as though it's almost an > oversite in the code that the absoulte and relative dirs are hardcoded into > the database. Well, two things: first, if the two servers are behind a load balancer hardware, it seems to me that this configuration should be kept hidden to the end user. As an example, if you have slash1.yourdomain.com and slash2.yourdomain.com as Slash balanced-servers, I, as a user, expect to access them as slash.yourdomain.com and leave the dirty work to the hardware/software. I don't want to see slash1 or slash2 in my URL since it annoys me, doesn't work well with caches, etc. So having slash.yourdomain.com in the db config seems ok to me, since it will be encoded in URLs sent back to the user, that therefore will show up again in front of the load balancer. If not, user will continue to work always on the same server, so you are just "balancing" the number of users that first access to the homepage, because from that point on URLs will have the name of a single server inside. What if a URL gets linked in some other site? What URL you print in your RSS feed file? On the other hand, relativedir can be relative, so I believe can just be '/' without the hostname. absolutedir is included in mail messages and RSS files, so it really is the main URL of your site. Unfortunately, 1.0.X was buggy in this respect and I don't know if all of them have been cleaned for 2.X. > I tried to modify the Utility.pm-- You really have to know where you put your hands... -- Alessio F. Bragadini al...@al... APL Financial Services http://village.albourne.com Nicosia, Cyprus phone: +357-2-755750 "It is more complicated than you think" -- The Eighth Networking Truth from RFC 1925 |
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From: shane <sh...@lo...> - 2001-07-26 13:37:58
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At 09:06 AM 7/26/2001 +0200, you wrote: >Hi! > >I think that currently is not possible to have 2 different web server >with different names pulling the data from the same database. Maybe you >can use other schemas to share the load between the servers, but the >name for the web server has to be the same, I think. > >Good luck! > >-- Alvaro > >El d_ 25 Jul 2001 10:11:35 -0400, Martin, James S. escribi_ > > Currently I have the Slash 2.0 database setup on a Linux box, and 2 Solaris > > boxes trying to act as the web servers pulling the slash database. Let's > > call the the first slash server slash1, and the other slash2. Well almost > > all is fine and dandy. Slash1 connects and pulls data remotely with no > > problem. I rsynched the /usr/local/slash dir to the second machine, made > > the necessary configuration changes(I think) and setup the necessary perl > > modules and it pulls the data--but all the links from the main page point > > back to slash1. I know this has something to do with the absolutedir and > > rootdir variables in the database, both of which are set to slash1's > > hostname. How is it possible then to have to webservers sharing the same > > database if they are pulling a static absolute and root dir from a > database? > > I'd like to be able to hit the database with either machine and each > machine > > processing it's on perl scripts. > > > > Thanks, > > > > James I missed the first part of this discussion, so excuse me if my assumptions are wrong... You have 3 boxes: sql1 www1 www2 Your db is on sql1. Your apache/mod_perl/slash install is on each box: www1, www2. Now, if you have www1 and www2 setup *identically* you should have no problems. What do I mean by identical? Same paths, same apache/mod_perl build, same slash_virutal_user. If slash isn't installed on www1 and www2 exactly the same, and the site on each isn't installed exactly the same (paths, user.owner user.group, etc) you will run into problems. Take a look at slashcode.com, and maybe even the FAQ on slashdot to see how they have arranged their multiple-server environment. Last I checked they have a 4th machine, serving NFS, that hosts the actual website and runs slashd. Each web machine mounts that share, and apache's config is set to use that share as the site's directory. Are you trying to setup for load balancing or redundancy with the two machines serving one site? We've been experimenting with this type of setup and LVS. We have our LVS primary/secondary machine going, and two simple apache boxes behind it. So far, so good. We have not go to the point yet where we have put 2 machines running the slash site behind the LVS yet. I hope we can get to it soon though. Shane |
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From: Martin, J. S. <Jam...@di...> - 2001-07-26 13:16:24
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The reason I bring this up is because if you haev 2 Web servers pointing to a database server and the Web Servers are sitting behind a Cisco Load Director (load balancing hardware). It seems as though it's almost an oversite in the code that the absoulte and relative dirs are hardcoded into the database. The absolute and root dirs should be generated by the perl scripts on the web server based on either a config file or generated by the "hostname" command. I've tried hardcoding the Utility.pm module to get this to work, as far as I can tell a constants hash is created with all the variables pulled from the vars table. I tried to modify the Utility.pm-- there is a subroutine called root2abs in which it retrieves the rootdir from the database and makes it into the relative dir--instead of it pulling it out of the DB I hardcoded it to the 2nd webserver and it still would not take. If I could just find where exactly that the code is pulling that information from the DB, I could hard code it on the 2nd machine so that it would work. Right now my crappy solution was to start the first server, modify the rootdir variable in the database to point to the 2nd server, and then start the 2nd server. It seems to work that way, but it's not favorable for obvious reasons. James -----Original Message----- From: Alvaro del Castillo [mailto:ac...@ba...] Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 5:00 AM To: sla...@li... Subject: Re: [Slashcode-general] Multiple Slash Servers El d_ 26 Jul 2001 10:47:57 +0300, Alessio Bragadini escribi_ > Alvaro del Castillo wrote: > > > I think that currently is not possible to have 2 different web server > > with different names pulling the data from the same database. Maybe you > > can use other schemas to share the load between the servers, but the > > name for the web server has to be the same, I think. > > Hhmmm... why not? In your DBIx::Password configuration, you could define > two different virtual users that uses the same connect string, username, > and password. As much as Slash is concerned, they are different > databases, but in fact they update the same tables. > > This could expose you to some race conditions because of the > symultaneous (spelling?!) access from two different engines, anyway - > but that's something that needs to be investigated in the code. Uhmm, yes, you are right. I haven't think about that. But you have the problemas that Martin has shown with the domain name, the cookie domain also ... Cheers -- Alvaro > -- > Alessio F. Bragadini al...@al... > APL Financial Services http://village.albourne.com > Nicosia, Cyprus phone: +357-2-755750 > > "It is more complicated than you think" > -- The Eighth Networking Truth from RFC 1925 > > _______________________________________________ > Slashcode-general mailing list > Sla...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general > _______________________________________________ Slashcode-general mailing list Sla...@li... http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general |
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From: <al...@ya...> - 2001-07-26 10:01:34
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Hi folks, Can anyone explain to me the meaning of the emailed stats? I am concerned to know whether the "total" is page requests and NOT hits. ie does it include images (bad) or not (good). Feel free to tell me I should compare it to my Apache logs Does "unique" mean unique client ip addresses? unique sessions? "total hits" presumably means the total number of "total"s since the site began. I get the impression that this also ignores images :-) -------------------------------------------------------------------- PS Something which should be put in the Docs is to NOT name your site "news" because if people type in "news.DiverseBooks.com" into their browser most of them will assume that they are supposed to use NNTP to fetch news. So now I have to tell everyone to use "http://news.DiverseBooks.com" Alex ===== Alex McLintock al...@OW... Open Source Consultancy in London OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ DR WHO COMPETITION: http://www.diversebooks.com/cgi-bin/caption/captions.cgi?date=200104 Get Your XML T-Shirt <t-shirt/> at http://www.inversity.co.uk/ ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie |
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From: Alvaro d. C. <ac...@ba...> - 2001-07-26 08:55:19
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El d_ 26 Jul 2001 10:47:57 +0300, Alessio Bragadini escribi_ > Alvaro del Castillo wrote: > > > I think that currently is not possible to have 2 different web server > > with different names pulling the data from the same database. Maybe you > > can use other schemas to share the load between the servers, but the > > name for the web server has to be the same, I think. > > Hhmmm... why not? In your DBIx::Password configuration, you could define > two different virtual users that uses the same connect string, username, > and password. As much as Slash is concerned, they are different > databases, but in fact they update the same tables. > > This could expose you to some race conditions because of the > symultaneous (spelling?!) access from two different engines, anyway - > but that's something that needs to be investigated in the code. Uhmm, yes, you are right. I haven't think about that. But you have the problemas that Martin has shown with the domain name, the cookie domain also ... Cheers -- Alvaro > -- > Alessio F. Bragadini al...@al... > APL Financial Services http://village.albourne.com > Nicosia, Cyprus phone: +357-2-755750 > > "It is more complicated than you think" > -- The Eighth Networking Truth from RFC 1925 > > _______________________________________________ > Slashcode-general mailing list > Sla...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general > |
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From: Alessio B. <al...@al...> - 2001-07-26 07:48:03
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Alvaro del Castillo wrote: > I think that currently is not possible to have 2 different web server > with different names pulling the data from the same database. Maybe you > can use other schemas to share the load between the servers, but the > name for the web server has to be the same, I think. Hhmmm... why not? In your DBIx::Password configuration, you could define two different virtual users that uses the same connect string, username, and password. As much as Slash is concerned, they are different databases, but in fact they update the same tables. This could expose you to some race conditions because of the symultaneous (spelling?!) access from two different engines, anyway - but that's something that needs to be investigated in the code. -- Alessio F. Bragadini al...@al... APL Financial Services http://village.albourne.com Nicosia, Cyprus phone: +357-2-755750 "It is more complicated than you think" -- The Eighth Networking Truth from RFC 1925 |
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From: Alvaro d. C. <ac...@ba...> - 2001-07-26 07:01:34
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Hi! I think that currently is not possible to have 2 different web server with different names pulling the data from the same database. Maybe you can use other schemas to share the load between the servers, but the name for the web server has to be the same, I think. Good luck! -- Alvaro El d_ 25 Jul 2001 10:11:35 -0400, Martin, James S. escribi_ > Currently I have the Slash 2.0 database setup on a Linux box, and 2 Solaris > boxes trying to act as the web servers pulling the slash database. Let's > call the the first slash server slash1, and the other slash2. Well almost > all is fine and dandy. Slash1 connects and pulls data remotely with no > problem. I rsynched the /usr/local/slash dir to the second machine, made > the necessary configuration changes(I think) and setup the necessary perl > modules and it pulls the data--but all the links from the main page point > back to slash1. I know this has something to do with the absolutedir and > rootdir variables in the database, both of which are set to slash1's > hostname. How is it possible then to have to webservers sharing the same > database if they are pulling a static absolute and root dir from a database? > I'd like to be able to hit the database with either machine and each machine > processing it's on perl scripts. > > Thanks, > > James > > _______________________________________________ > Slashcode-general mailing list > Sla...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general > |
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From: Brent M. <br...@me...> - 2001-07-25 19:20:05
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I found the slashdearchive tool, but im waiting to hear from someone on the list on its proper usage. I have two years of stories that need stuffed back into the database. The usage is confusing, can someone give me an example? -----Original Message----- From: sla...@li... [mailto:sla...@li...]On Behalf Of Eric Dannewitz Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 2:02 PM To: sla...@li... Subject: Re: [Slashcode-general] slash 2.0 I think there is a script in the utils directory that will convert old slash 1.0.x .shtml files back to stories in the database Brent Meshier wrote: > The new slash 2.0 doesn't archive stories into .shtml, so are old stories > lost FOREVER? I don't understand. Ever since I upgrade from 1.0 to 2.0, > stories on my site are dropping like flys. This can't possibly be true!? > > --Brent > > _______________________________________________ > Slashcode-general mailing list > Sla...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general -- What we have to learn to do, we learn by doing. - Aristotle Eric Dannewitz - Adventurer, saxophonist, good-timer (crook? quite possibly), clarinetist, manic self-publicist, part-time flautist(flutist?), macintosher, and often thought to be completely out to lunch. http://www.jazz-sax.com _______________________________________________ Slashcode-general mailing list Sla...@li... http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general |
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