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Re: [Slashcode-general] CPAN and Slash

[Nathan T. <nt...@ha...>]

"t/select.t" seems to be failing as well (after I forced the install 
Net::CMD). Is that also a function of a broken libnet module as well or 
another problem? I'm not sure what package select.t belongs to? Also, is 
there an older libnet that I could fall back on that would work with Slash 
2.0.0 while Graham Barr is debugging the most recent version? Lastly (I do 
apologize for these questions. I'm relatively new to working with Linux and 
a complete neophyte when it comes to Slash), how might I install all the 
necessary Perl modules manually? Is there a list of modules required for 
Slash? If so, are they all simply tarballs with makefiles?

Thanks,
Nathan Thaler

At 19:04 -0400 2001.09.23, John Abreau wrote:
 >Clearly something in CPAN is broken; hopefully it's just the libnet
 >module, and not something more systemic.
 >The libnet distribution is broken on the CPAN. I filed a report with
 >Graham Barr, who said he is working on it.

 >If the only tests that libnet (Net::Cmd) is failing are 8-9 of t/require,
 >then either do `make install` from the system shell, or `force install
 >Net::Cmd` from the CPAN shell.

 >I just uploaded a new Bundle::Slash, but it does not (cannot) fix this
 >problem. Only a new libnet can do that. :)

Re: [Slashcode-general] CPAN and Slash

[Chris N. <pu...@po...>]

At 19:04 -0400 2001.09.23, John Abreau wrote:
>Clearly something in CPAN is broken; hopefully it's just the libnet
>module, and not something more systemic.

The libnet distribution is broken on the CPAN.  I filed a report with
Graham Barr, who said he is working on it.

If the only tests that libnet (Net::Cmd) is failing are 8-9 of t/require,
then either do `make install` from the system shell, or `force install
Net::Cmd` from the CPAN shell.

I just uploaded a new Bundle::Slash, but it does not (cannot) fix this
problem.  Only a new libnet can do that.  :)

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Re: [Slashcode-general] CPAN and Slash

[John A. <ja...@bl...>]

Nathan Thaler <nt...@ha...> writes:

> This may not be the most proper venue for a CPAN question, but I've spent 
> two weeks exhaustively trying to get Slash to install, and failing because 
> of a CPAN configuration problem.  I have a fresh Redhat 7.1 install with 
> MySQL and Apache 1.3.20 (with mod_perl 1.26) supposedly up and 
> running.  When I attempt to use CPAN to configure Slash (perl -MCPAN -e 
> shell), and CPAN goes through its initial configuration, and attempts to 
> "make test" it always fails upon the "t/require" failing tests 8-9.  It 
> passes ftp and hostname, and skips NNTP and SMTP on this platform.  I have 

While it doesn't help your immediate problem, I thought I'd mention that
I had the same problem with CPAN a few days ago while installing a 
different
package (in my case, RequestTracker). I had installed it successfully on a
Redhat 7.1 system at home a month ago, and the identical installation 
failed
while using CPAN to load its required modules.

Clearly something in CPAN is broken; hopefully it's just the libnet module,
and not something more systemic.

I plan on giving it another try next week, installing the required modules 
by hand instead of relying on CPAN. Perhaps that approach would work with
Slash as well.


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Re: [Slashcode-general] CPAN and Slash

[Eric D. <eri...@ja...>]

make test fails where?

Did you do an install Bundle::CPAN first?

Nathan Thaler wrote:

> This may not be the most proper venue for a CPAN question, but I've spent
> two weeks exhaustively trying to get Slash to install, and failing because
> of a CPAN configuration problem.  I have a fresh Redhat 7.1 install with
> MySQL and Apache 1.3.20 (with mod_perl 1.26) supposedly up and
> running.  When I attempt to use CPAN to configure Slash (perl -MCPAN -e
> shell), and CPAN goes through its initial configuration, and attempts to
> "make test" it always fails upon the "t/require" failing tests 8-9.  It
> passes ftp and hostname, and skips NNTP and SMTP on this platform.  I have
> the latest version of CPAN (1.59), which also updated my perl libraries,
> and libnet 1.0704.  I'm attempting to install Slash 2.0.0.  If you have any
> ideas why the above test is failing, please respond, for otherwise my team
> is going to force me to setup a IIS/Access solution for a messageboard.
>
> Thanks,
> Nathan Thaler
>
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[Slashcode-general] CPAN and Slash

[Nathan T. <nt...@ha...>]

This may not be the most proper venue for a CPAN question, but I've spent 
two weeks exhaustively trying to get Slash to install, and failing because 
of a CPAN configuration problem.  I have a fresh Redhat 7.1 install with 
MySQL and Apache 1.3.20 (with mod_perl 1.26) supposedly up and 
running.  When I attempt to use CPAN to configure Slash (perl -MCPAN -e 
shell), and CPAN goes through its initial configuration, and attempts to 
"make test" it always fails upon the "t/require" failing tests 8-9.  It 
passes ftp and hostname, and skips NNTP and SMTP on this platform.  I have 
the latest version of CPAN (1.59), which also updated my perl libraries, 
and libnet 1.0704.  I'm attempting to install Slash 2.0.0.  If you have any 
ideas why the above test is failing, please respond, for otherwise my team 
is going to force me to setup a IIS/Access solution for a messageboard.

Thanks,
Nathan Thaler

Re: [Slashcode-general] Sections in Slash

[barry <sla...@i1...>]

My ISP is about to upgrade out web hosts from some freakin' roll-your-own 
pre-apache server to a more modern type machine. It looks as though if all 
else were equal, it would be enough horsepower to run the slash site I am 
working on right now (for a while). I would prefer to deploy it there is 
possible.

I know there will be some issues - the ones that pop to mind immediately are
- how to get the specially build apache on a shared host
- how to install sql locally
- how to install any needed perl modules locally

First, is it possible to do all that?
Second, is it worth bothering?
Third, if it is worth it, how much disk space am I looking at just to get 
it all up and running?

The new system is appears to be freebsd 4.3 and apache 1.3.14.

Thanks for the help -

Barry 

Re: [Slashcode-general] Sections in Slash

[Barry C. <bc...@i1...>]

My ISP is about to upgrade out web hosts from some freakin' roll-your-own 
pre-apache server to a more modern type machine. It looks as though if all 
else were equal, it would be enough horsepower to run the slash site I am 
working on right now (for a while). I would prefer to deploy it there is 
possible.

I know there will be some issues - the ones that pop to mind immediately are
- how to get the specially build apache on a shared host
- how to install sql locally
- how to install any needed perl modules locally

First, is it possible to do all that?
Second, is it worth bothering?
Third, if it is worth it, how much disk space am I looking at just to get 
it all up and running?

The new system is appears to be freebsd 4.3 and apache 1.3.14.

Thanks for the help -

Barry

[Slashcode-general] Of Bender and Fry...

[Jean-Philippe M. <jp....@si...>]

Hi there,
please take no offense from my question, but I would like to hear from
you on the future of Slashcode. 
I am running 1.0.5 + patches as my production version. I have installed
and migrated to 2.0 on a development box.
My tests showed me that Slashcode v 2.x is a desirable version, yet that
2.0.0 has lost some features, or bugs that need correction. On the
website, people are already talking about "Fry", v. 2.2

It's been (sort of) ages since the current 2.0.0 tarball was released...
I would like to move to v2, but not v. 2.0.0
Can you disclose what is your release policy/schedule for Slashcode v2.x
??

Regards,
--JPM

[Slashcode-general] Sections in Slash

[Joyce H. <ha...@AM...>]

I have a few issues with Slash since I have installed it. The first is =
this.=20
-Am I right in deducing that the Sections are the way to create separate =
mailing lists? If so, I have create two separate sections. I can get to =
them using: url/index.pl?section=3Dsectionname. But when I click on the =
tag in a story that refers to the section, it takes me to: =
url/sectionname and I get a file not found error. Also, one of the =
stories that should appear in a separate section does not.

Second issue:
When I make changes to the template, sometimes they take, sometimes they =
don't. I haven't been saving them as default, but I have been saving =
them.

Last issue:
Is it possible to create authors that can only administer certain =
sections? i.e. a teacher who can only moderate and change the look of =
his/her forum.

Thank you in advance for you help,
Joyce

Re: [Slashcode-general] Install Slash on a fresh RedHat 7.1 system.

[shane <sh...@lo...>]

At 07:02 PM 9/19/2001 -0700, Alex Spitzer wrote:
>For weeks and weeks I had been trying to install Slash 2.0 on my RedHat
>machine.  I keep running into failures installing the perl modules.
>I've installed apache 1.3.20/mod_perl 1.25, MySQL, and expat from
>scratch(I'm getting very good at this part:-), mainly because I like
>knowing where everything is.  RedHat has a habit of putting things
>everywhere.  After all this, several times, I'm beginning to suspect the
>install of perl that came with RedHat, version 5.6.0.  I get all kinds
>of errors, especially with libwww-perl. I'm just wondering if anyone has
>any input as to what I should install manually, remove, or a optimal
>distro.  I learned the little I know about Linux on RedHat, so I would
>like to stick with it, if possible.  Luckily, I'm not planning on using
>slash for production.....yet.
>Thanks,
>Alex Spitzer



I use primarily redhat7.1 systems, at the moment.
The *easiest* method that I've found is to totally
remove the perl rpm's that come with it. Then install
perl from the tarball. then install cpan, and start
installing modules.
if one won't install from cpan, then I break out
and try to install by hand. so far, I've had great
luck doing it this way.

  Shane

[Slashcode-general] Newbie installation: Can't locate loadable object for module Apache::ModuleConfig in @INC

[Jeffrey D. <je...@xs...>]

I have almost finished installing Slash 2.0 on my RedHat 7.1 system with
MySQL but this is the error that I get when trying to start Apache:

/usr/local/apache_slash/bin/httpd -d /usr/local/apache_slash :
Syntax error on line 9 of /usr/local/slash/httpd/slash.conf:
Can't locate loadable object for module Apache::ModuleConfig in @INC (@INC
contains: /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/i686-linux /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.6.1
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/i686-linux
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1 /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl .
/usr/local/apache_slash/ /usr/local/apache_slash/lib/perl) at
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/i686-linux/mod_perl.pm line 14
Compilation failed in require at
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/i686-linux/Slash/Utility.pm line 32.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/i686-linux/Slash/Utility.pm line 32.
Compilation failed in require at
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/i686-linux/Slash/DB/Utility.pm line 9.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/i686-linux/Slash/DB/Utility.pm line 9.
Compilation failed in require at
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/i686-linux/Slash/DB.pm line 10.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/i686-linux/Slash/DB.pm line 10.
Compilation failed in require at
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/i686-linux/Slash.pm line 40.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/i686-linux/Slash.pm line 40.
Compilation failed in require at (eval 3) line 3.

I have confirmed that mod_perl is working (by telnet to port 80 ...) and
have confirmed that Apache::ModuleConfig is in fact installed at
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/i386-linux/Apache/ModuleConfig.pm

I would edit the @INC file but I have a feeling that the @INC was hardcoded
somewhere at compile time

Any help is greatly apprieciated. It has been a long hard road for it to
fail at this last crucial step :)
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Re: [Slashcode-general] Setting up correct time

[Markus A. <mar...@ub...>]

rr...@jo... wrote:
> 
> Ok, I'm a moron or something, I got my machine running on GMT, where
> do I tell slash (Bender) what timezone it is in (MST), cause the time
> is not correct in there. The machines time is correct just not
> bender.
> 
> Or does Bender post the time of the person that posted the story
> taking into account that persons timezone?

Have a look at your account's time settings. I guess that's what you're
wondering about... Slash always displays the correct time for the zone
the account owner is supposed to be in, based on his/her preferences.

In case it's not clear: I'm talking about the reader's account, not the
poster's account.

Change the TZ for AC too, if you're not having lots of US users.

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[Slashcode-general] Setting up correct time

[Ralf R. K. <rr...@jo...>]

Ok, I'm a moron or something, I got my machine running on GMT, where 
do I tell slash (Bender) what timezone it is in (MST), cause the time 
is not correct in there. The machines time is correct just not 
bender.

Or does Bender post the time of the person that posted the story 
taking into account that persons timezone?

Thanx

Ralf

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[Slashcode-general] Install Slash on a fresh RedHat 7.1 system.

[Alex S. <sa...@di...>]

For weeks and weeks I had been trying to install Slash 2.0 on my RedHat
machine.  I keep running into failures installing the perl modules. 
I've installed apache 1.3.20/mod_perl 1.25, MySQL, and expat from
scratch(I'm getting very good at this part:-), mainly because I like
knowing where everything is.  RedHat has a habit of putting things
everywhere.  After all this, several times, I'm beginning to suspect the
install of perl that came with RedHat, version 5.6.0.  I get all kinds
of errors, especially with libwww-perl. I'm just wondering if anyone has
any input as to what I should install manually, remove, or a optimal
distro.  I learned the little I know about Linux on RedHat, so I would
like to stick with it, if possible.  Luckily, I'm not planning on using
slash for production.....yet.
Thanks,
Alex Spitzer

Re: [Slashcode-general] Logs in but can't administer

[shane <sh...@lo...>]

At 10:08 AM 9/18/2001 -0400, Koeppl, Carl wrote:

>I have exhausted everything that I can think of. I completed an install
>of slash-2.0.0. I had some module problems and apache problems, but they
>seem to be resolved now. I am sooo close!
>
>slashd is running...no errors. Apache...no errors. Login with the user I
>specified...yes. The seclev says 10000, so I assume
>I should submit stories, change blocks, approve submitted stories, in
>short, administer the web site. What am I doing wrong?
>I can't get to the 'God' level. Is that what seclev 10000 should allow?
>At this point I don't even know where to start.

Is the 'admin' plugin installed in this slash-site?

[Slashcode-general] Logs in but can't administer

[Koeppl, C. <Car...@co...>]

I have exhausted everything that I can think of. I completed an install
of slash-2.0.0. I had some module problems and apache problems, but they
seem to be resolved now. I am sooo close!

slashd is running...no errors. Apache...no errors. Login with the user I
specified...yes. The seclev says 10000, so I assume
I should submit stories, change blocks, approve submitted stories, in
short, administer the web site. What am I doing wrong?
I can't get to the 'God' level. Is that what seclev 10000 should allow?
At this point I don't even know where to start.

Just a toe hold.

Thanks in Advance,

'Carl

Re: [Slashcode-general] Requiring Login?

[Markus A. <mar...@ub...>]

sh...@lo... wrote:
> I've got one that locks out a whole directory if
> the user isn't logged in. But you could expand on it
> pretty easily.
>=20
> If anyone wants it I'll put a tarball up.

would be great.

Is it for bender or 1.0?

Another question: what's the easiest way to disallow anonymous posts but
still allow anonymous viewing of all pages? Should I fiddle with the
comments.pl code, or is there a setting somewhere? (running 1.0.9)

Markus.

PS: I'm asking because we're talking about closing the site for
anonymous posts. I'm against it (and doubt we'll do it since I'm the
founder and most active author), but still would like to know how
difficult it'd be to make if foolproof.
We're getting loads of traffic ATM because an anonymous coward published
500 email addresses of a wannabe-terrorist mailing list [0] - including
the one arab's email address who was arrested in Hamburg, Germany. Have
a look at the logs [1] - about 5gigs sent out in less than 24 hours ;-)
IMHO reason enough to talk about anonymous posts, but not reason enough
to forbid them.

[0] http://www.symlink.ch/comments.pl?sid=3D01/09/14/111235&cid=3D4
[1] http://www.symlink.ch/webalizer/usage_200109.shtml
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Re: [Slashcode-general] Requiring Login?

[shane <sh...@lo...>]

At 04:52 PM 9/17/2001 -0700, wa...@Ry... wrote:
>All,
>
>Please excuse me if this is a FAQ, but I'm a newbie and simply can't find
>the information I'm looking for.
>
>Does Slashcode already have a pre-existing feature to require users to be
>logged in to be able to view particular content?  For example, if I had a
>particular section I would like to restrict to logged in users only, is
>there a way in the stock slashcode that would enforce this.
>
>I'm not looking for iron-clad security (although I'll take it if it's
>there.)  I'm mostly looking for something so that an anonomous user
>wouldn't know about the existance of certain URL's.

Also, there is yet another way to lock people out,
and this (imho) is pretty cool.

You write your own apache handler to lock people
out who don't have a specific cookie.

At first this sounds horrific, but if you look at the
Slash code, they've already done 95% of the work for you
with their Index Handler code.

I've got one that locks out a whole directory if
the user isn't logged in. But you could expand on it
pretty easily.

If anyone wants it I'll put a tarball up.

  Shane

Re: [Slashcode-general] Requiring Login?

[shane <sh...@lo...>]

At 04:52 PM 9/17/2001 -0700, wa...@Ry... wrote:
>All,
>
>Please excuse me if this is a FAQ, but I'm a newbie and simply can't find
>the information I'm looking for.
>
>Does Slashcode already have a pre-existing feature to require users to be
>logged in to be able to view particular content?  For example, if I had a
>particular section I would like to restrict to logged in users only, is
>there a way in the stock slashcode that would enforce this.
>
>I'm not looking for iron-clad security (although I'll take it if it's
>there.)  I'm mostly looking for something so that an anonomous user
>wouldn't know about the existance of certain URL's.


Any section rendered to .shtml, you can't stop people
from viewing (unless you lock out the directory via
apache, which slash doesn't inherently do).

 From a perl script you can lock people out:

ie:

#locksomeone out who's seclev is too low
my $user = getCurrentUser();
redirect('/users.pl') if (($user->{is_anon}) || ($user->{seclev}<5));

#locksomeone out who doesn't have a particular user's param

my $user = getCurrentUser();
redirect('/users.pl') if !defined $user->{'someparam'};

etc etc. there's probably add'l ways to do it, some
more efficient then others. but this should give you somewhere
to look into further.

  Shane

[Slashcode-general] Requiring Login?

[<wa...@Ry...>]

All,

Please excuse me if this is a FAQ, but I'm a newbie and simply can't find
the information I'm looking for.

Does Slashcode already have a pre-existing feature to require users to be
logged in to be able to view particular content?  For example, if I had a
particular section I would like to restrict to logged in users only, is
there a way in the stock slashcode that would enforce this.

I'm not looking for iron-clad security (although I'll take it if it's
there.)  I'm mostly looking for something so that an anonomous user
wouldn't know about the existance of certain URL's.

Thanks,

Ryan

Re: [Slashcode-general] Slash specific processes?

[Dave H. <da...@ho...>]

<da...@ph...> writes:

> Hi,
> 
> I run a webserver which virtual hosts some fairly trafficed sites (300,000
> hits/day) but I am also interested in running slashcode on a couple
> smaller sites.  Is it possible to somehow "seperate" the apache processes
> per domain.  It would really hurt performance of the main site and the
> vhosts if huge apache binaries were called for a static site when it isn't
> needed.
> 
> I suppose I could run an apache process on 8080 and create something like:
> 
> RedirectPermenant http://www.mysite.com/ http://www.mysite.com:8080/
> 
> and have the apache processes on 8080 be the slashcode ones...
> 
> any other ideas?

I'm a big fan of the two-tier approach. A thin apache on the front and
the fat apache(s) behind. Having several behind will reduce the
shareability of RAM, but increase the insulation between sites.

http://perl.apache.com/guide/

I've done this a fair few times now, but it'd be nice to work with a
well-trafficked site (you on 30k "hits" or real "page impressions"?)

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[Slashcode-general] Slash specific processes?

[<da...@ph...>]

Hi,

I run a webserver which virtual hosts some fairly trafficed sites (300,000
hits/day) but I am also interested in running slashcode on a couple
smaller sites.  Is it possible to somehow "seperate" the apache processes
per domain.  It would really hurt performance of the main site and the
vhosts if huge apache binaries were called for a static site when it isn't
needed.

I suppose I could run an apache process on 8080 and create something like:

RedirectPermenant http://www.mysite.com/ http://www.mysite.com:8080/

and have the apache processes on 8080 be the slashcode ones...

any other ideas?

thanks,
davidu

Re: [Slashcode-general] Query about daily email notification

[Chris N. <pu...@po...>]

At 18:37 -0400 2001.09.16, Declan McCullagh wrote:
>Is there a module that will let my users subscribe for daily email
>alerts that list URLs and summaries to what's new? Perhaps only in the
>topics they care about?

In Slash 2.2 there is the Slash::Messages plugin.  It sends out either
complete headlines, or headlines + complete stories.  You could modify this
to suit your needs.

We do not currently use the sections/topics/authors prefs from the user to
determine the content of what is sent.  That is a low priority feature on
the TODO list.

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[Slashcode-general] Query about daily email notification

[Declan M. <li...@po...>]

I'm helping to set up a Slash site, and was hoping that folks here
could answer a question for me that may be obvious. (I've helped
to set up three sites before -- while I'm not a novice, I'm not
an expert either).

Is there a module that will let my users subscribe for daily email
alerts that list URLs and summaries to what's new? Perhaps only in the
topics they care about?

I could write one myself, but I'd far rather use an existing system
if there's already one out there. Or, if I don't care about the topic
areas, I could write a quick Perl script to grab the headlines, format
a message, and send it to a majordomo list.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Declan

[Slashcode-general] Query about daily email notification

[Declan M. <de...@we...>]

I'm helping to set up a Slash site, and was hoping that folks here
could answer a question for me that may be obvious. (I've helped
to set up three sites before -- while I'm not a novice, I'm not
an expert either).

Is there a module that will let my users subscribe for daily email
alerts that list URLs and summaries to what's new? Perhaps only in the
topics they care about?

I could write one myself, but I'd far rather use an existing system
if there's already one out there. Or, if I don't care about the topic
areas, I could write a quick Perl script to grab the headlines, format
a message, and send it to a majordomo list.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Declan