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From: Hedayat V. <hed...@ai...> - 2009-06-18 09:08:02
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Hi! On ۰۹/۰۶/۱۸ 01:51, Simon Raffeiner wrote: > Hello Mr. Vatankhah, > > Am Mittwoch 17 Juni 2009 22:47:07 schrieben Sie: > >> Hi Simon, >> These variables are read from ~/.simspark/kerosin.rb if available. If >> not, it'll read them from<installation_dir>/share/simspark/kerosin.rb. >> > > Never mind, stupid mistake on my side :/ > > I actually WAS blind on this spot. > :) No problem. Good luck, Hedayat > -- > mit freundlichen Grüßen/regards > Simon Raffeiner > > University of Applied Sciences Offenburg, Germany > Computer Science Department, RoboCup Team > |
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From: Simon R. <sra...@st...> - 2009-06-17 21:21:21
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Hello Mr. Vatankhah, Am Mittwoch 17 Juni 2009 22:47:07 schrieben Sie: > Hi Simon, > These variables are read from ~/.simspark/kerosin.rb if available. If > not, it'll read them from <installation_dir>/share/simspark/kerosin.rb. Never mind, stupid mistake on my side :/ I actually WAS blind on this spot. -- mit freundlichen Grüßen/regards Simon Raffeiner University of Applied Sciences Offenburg, Germany Computer Science Department, RoboCup Team |
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From: Hedayat V. <hed...@ai...> - 2009-06-17 20:48:45
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Hi Simon, These variables are read from ~/.simspark/kerosin.rb if available. If not, it'll read them from <installation_dir>/share/simspark/kerosin.rb. Good luck, Hedayat On ۰۹/۰۶/۱۸ 01:07, Simon Raffeiner wrote: > Hello Developers, > > can anybody explain to me why all Ruby variables concerning the Viewport (e.g. > "Viewport.XRes") seem to be ignored although they are read in > spark/plugin/openglsyssdl/openglsystemsdl.cpp ? And where do the used values > (800 x 600 pixels) actually come from then? I seem to be blind on this spot. > > The goal is to enlarge the monitor window to something above 1024x768 pixels. > 800x600 is way too small to show any details without having to pan/zoom around > a lot. Running simspark on a much higher resolution will probably not be a > major issue for my Radeon 4850. > > -- > mit freundlichen Gr��en/regards > Simon Raffeiner > > University of Applied Sciences Offenburg, Germany > Computer Science Department, RoboCup Team > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial > Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited > royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing > server and web deployment. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects > _______________________________________________ > Simspark Generic Physical MAS Simulator > simspark-devel mailing list > sim...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/simspark-devel > |
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From: Simon R. <sra...@st...> - 2009-06-17 20:38:33
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Hello Developers, can anybody explain to me why all Ruby variables concerning the Viewport (e.g. "Viewport.XRes") seem to be ignored although they are read in spark/plugin/openglsyssdl/openglsystemsdl.cpp ? And where do the used values (800 x 600 pixels) actually come from then? I seem to be blind on this spot. The goal is to enlarge the monitor window to something above 1024x768 pixels. 800x600 is way too small to show any details without having to pan/zoom around a lot. Running simspark on a much higher resolution will probably not be a major issue for my Radeon 4850. -- mit freundlichen Grüßen/regards Simon Raffeiner University of Applied Sciences Offenburg, Germany Computer Science Department, RoboCup Team |
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From: 李沛 <lip...@16...> - 2009-06-17 15:10:38
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hello all!
I am a freshman for 3D group,glad to work with all of you!
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From: Simon R. <sra...@st...> - 2009-06-16 09:39:29
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Sehr geehrter Simon Raffeiner, Am Montag 15 Juni 2009 20:40:55 schrieben Sie: > - I have to put multiple installations in different locations if I don't > want to fiddle with scripts all the time because paths are static. IMO the > simspark binary should take a path to an initialization script on the > command line and only use the default one if none is given. The attached patch allows to override the path to the default script via command line. I use it together with a directory structure like this: - simspark-scripts/soccer-withmonitor/simspark.rb has the internal monitor enabled - simspark-scripts/soccer-withoutmonitor/simspark.rb has the internal monitor disabled - simspark-scripts/soccer-genetic/simspark.rb has the internal monitor disabled and includes simspark-scripts/soccer-genetic/naosoccersim.rb (instead of just "naosoccersim.rb") which contains some settings for genetic optimization It is now possible to have a single installation and let multiple people use their own settings without having to edit system files all the time. -- mit freundlichen Grüßen/regards Simon Raffeiner University of Applied Sciences Offenburg, Germany Computer Science Department, RoboCup Team |
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From: Simon R. <sra...@st...> - 2009-06-16 09:34:12
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Am Montag 15 Juni 2009 20:40:55 schrieb Simon Raffeiner: > - spark/plugin/inputsdl/inputsystemsdl.cpp tries to > SDL_Init(SDL_INIT_VIDEO) although the server is supposed to run without an > internal monitor and the input layer doesn't need video. This completely > breaks the server when run from an SSH session. IMO the complete "if > (!SDL_WasInit(SDL_INIT_VIDEO))" block can be removed. The attached patch tries to fix this. It is now possible for me to run simspark from a headless SSH session (internal monitor deactivated) and from an X11 session using the internal monitor. -- mit freundlichen Grüßen/regards Simon Raffeiner University of Applied Sciences Offenburg, Germany Computer Science Department, RoboCup Team |
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From: Joschka B. <jos...@am...> - 2009-06-16 07:40:37
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Hi all, On Jun 16, 2009, at 4:00 PM, Oliver Obst wrote: > Hi Simon, > > On 15/06/2009, at 10:18 PM, Simon Raffeiner wrote: > >> I still have a patch laying around on the machines used in German >> OPEN 2009 >> introducing a binding for KickOffRight in rcssmonitor3d. Without >> this key it is >> not possible to complete a match using the monitor because it is not >> possible >> to let the second team kick off after halftime. >> >> How should I send those patches? Inline, attachment or may I join >> the project >> and get an SVN login? > > just send me your sourceforge account name, and I'll add it. > Sounds good :-) Welcome to the team, Simon! > Maybe this would also be a good opportunity to update the list of > project members / admins anyway - Sander what about being added as an > admin? > I'll also try to find out who's still responsive/interested from all > the other admins and members while I'm at it. Although I wasn't too involved recently, I'm still interested and I'm planning to use the simulator in my research from now on. Also, I have two students in the lab currently taking a look the physics engine rewrite / possible PAL integration. I'll write more on that at a later point. Cheers, Joschka |
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From: Oliver O. <Oli...@cs...> - 2009-06-16 07:24:48
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On 16/06/2009, at 5:18 PM, Joschka Boedecker wrote: > Although I wasn't too involved recently, I'm still interested and I'm > planning to use the simulator in my research from now on. Also, I have > two students in the lab currently taking a look the physics engine > rewrite / possible PAL integration. I'll write more on that at a later > point. well, original plan was to suspend your account until you submit ;-) - of course I'll leave it. Oliver |
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From: Oliver O. <oli...@cs...> - 2009-06-16 07:01:11
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Hi Simon, On 15/06/2009, at 10:18 PM, Simon Raffeiner wrote: > I still have a patch laying around on the machines used in German > OPEN 2009 > introducing a binding for KickOffRight in rcssmonitor3d. Without > this key it is > not possible to complete a match using the monitor because it is not > possible > to let the second team kick off after halftime. > > How should I send those patches? Inline, attachment or may I join > the project > and get an SVN login? just send me your sourceforge account name, and I'll add it. Maybe this would also be a good opportunity to update the list of project members / admins anyway - Sander what about being added as an admin? I'll also try to find out who's still responsive/interested from all the other admins and members while I'm at it. cheers Oliver -- Oliver Obst form follows function (Louis Sullivan). New number! +61 2 9372 4710 http://oliver.obst.eu/ Autonomous Systems Lab CSIRO ICT Centre http://www.ict.csiro.au/asl/ |
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From: Hedayat V. <hed...@ai...> - 2009-06-15 19:33:48
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Hi again, /*Sander van Dijk <sgv...@gm...>*/ wrote on دوشنبه ۱۵ ژوئن ۰۹، ۲۳:۲۹:۵۵: > Hi Hedayat, > > In the German Open we had the problem that some teams did not run > correctly with the league manager script (and unfortunately we weren't > able to figure out what went wrong), so they had to be started by hand > and in that case being able to do a kickoff from the right side came > in handy. And of course it wouldn't hurt at all to have that feature > in the first place, to be able to run a full match with the external > monitor and without the league manager :-) Certainly! The patch is really welcome. I just wanted to note that it should not be considered as the main way for running games. We do not lose anything by adding new features! :) Thanks, Hedayat > > Sander > > On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Hedayat Vatankhah <hed...@ai... > <mailto:hed...@ai...>> wrote: > > Hi, > Thank you for the patch. But what we did for RoboCup 2008 and > IranOpen2009 was changing the side of teams after the first half > (this is done by the league manager script I sent to Sander), so > there was no need to issue a kick off right command on the second > half. > > Thanks again, > Hedayat > > > On ۰۹/۰۶/۱۵ 10:11, Simon Raffeiner wrote: >> This patch against rcssmonitor3d binds the PlayMode "KickOffRight" to the Key >> "j". Without this patch it is impossible to complete a game because the only >> possibility to continue the game after half time is pressing "k" which gives a >> KickOff to the left team again. >> >> Patch originally from Sander van Dijk, tested on German OPEN 2009 in >> Hannover/Germany. We played all important games with this patch enabled. >> >> regards >> Simon Raffeiner >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial >> Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited >> royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing >> server and web deployment. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Simspark Generic Physical MAS Simulator >> simspark-devel mailing list >> sim...@li... <mailto:sim...@li...> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/simspark-devel >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial > Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited > royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing > server and web deployment. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects > _______________________________________________ > Simspark Generic Physical MAS Simulator > simspark-devel mailing list > sim...@li... > <mailto:sim...@li...> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/simspark-devel > > > > > -- > Adaptive Systems Research Group > Department of Computer Science > University of Hertfordshire > United Kingdom |
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From: Sander v. D. <sgv...@gm...> - 2009-06-15 18:59:57
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Hi Hedayat, In the German Open we had the problem that some teams did not run correctly with the league manager script (and unfortunately we weren't able to figure out what went wrong), so they had to be started by hand and in that case being able to do a kickoff from the right side came in handy. And of course it wouldn't hurt at all to have that feature in the first place, to be able to run a full match with the external monitor and without the league manager :-) Sander On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Hedayat Vatankhah <hed...@ai...>wrote: > Hi, > Thank you for the patch. But what we did for RoboCup 2008 and IranOpen2009 > was changing the side of teams after the first half (this is done by the > league manager script I sent to Sander), so there was no need to issue a > kick off right command on the second half. > > Thanks again, > Hedayat > > > On ۰۹/۰۶/۱۵ 10:11, Simon Raffeiner wrote: > > This patch against rcssmonitor3d binds the PlayMode "KickOffRight" to the Key > "j". Without this patch it is impossible to complete a game because the only > possibility to continue the game after half time is pressing "k" which gives a > KickOff to the left team again. > > Patch originally from Sander van Dijk, tested on German OPEN 2009 in > Hannover/Germany. We played all important games with this patch enabled. > > regards > Simon Raffeiner > > > ------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial > Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited > royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing > server and web deployment.http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Simspark Generic Physical MAS Simulator > simspark-devel mailing lis...@li...https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/simspark-devel > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial > Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited > royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing > server and web deployment. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects > _______________________________________________ > Simspark Generic Physical MAS Simulator > simspark-devel mailing list > sim...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/simspark-devel > > -- Adaptive Systems Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Hertfordshire United Kingdom |
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From: Hedayat V. <hed...@ai...> - 2009-06-15 18:55:28
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Hi, Thank you for the patch. But what we did for RoboCup 2008 and IranOpen2009 was changing the side of teams after the first half (this is done by the league manager script I sent to Sander), so there was no need to issue a kick off right command on the second half. Thanks again, Hedayat On ۰۹/۰۶/۱۵ 10:11, Simon Raffeiner wrote: > This patch against rcssmonitor3d binds the PlayMode "KickOffRight" to the Key > "j". Without this patch it is impossible to complete a game because the only > possibility to continue the game after half time is pressing "k" which gives a > KickOff to the left team again. > > Patch originally from Sander van Dijk, tested on German OPEN 2009 in > Hannover/Germany. We played all important games with this patch enabled. > > regards > Simon Raffeiner > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial > Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited > royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing > server and web deployment. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Simspark Generic Physical MAS Simulator > simspark-devel mailing list > sim...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/simspark-devel > |
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From: Simon R. <sra...@st...> - 2009-06-15 18:41:13
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Does anybody use the current SimSpark in an automated environment, e.g. in a headless setup (no GUI) doing genetic optimization? I'm having a list of problems: - spark/plugin/inputsdl/inputsystemsdl.cpp tries to SDL_Init(SDL_INIT_VIDEO) although the server is supposed to run without an internal monitor and the input layer doesn't need video. This completely breaks the server when run from an SSH session. IMO the complete "if (!SDL_WasInit(SDL_INIT_VIDEO))" block can be removed. - I have to put multiple installations in different locations if I don't want to fiddle with scripts all the time because paths are static. IMO the simspark binary should take a path to an initialization script on the command line and only use the default one if none is given. - AFAICT there is no possibility to run a simulation without rules, e.g. to optimize a kick the ball always has to be in the same location and BeforeKickOff does not allow the client to run into the center. The environment also has to be reset. The only "solution" I could come up with is to restart the server after every run and/or create a monitor connection in parallel which tries to resets things. - Is there a possibility to run the simulation as fast as possible while still using 20 ms timesteps? My solution would be to advance the simulation as soon as all present agents sent their commands for this step or the usual 20ms are over. I "solved" most of the problems in some way or an other so depending on your feedback patches may already be ready. -- regards Simon Raffeiner University of Applied Sciences Offenburg, Germany Computer Science Department, RoboCup Team |
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From: Simon R. <sra...@st...> - 2009-06-15 17:41:53
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This patch against rcssmonitor3d binds the PlayMode "KickOffRight" to the Key "j". Without this patch it is impossible to complete a game because the only possibility to continue the game after half time is pressing "k" which gives a KickOff to the left team again. Patch originally from Sander van Dijk, tested on German OPEN 2009 in Hannover/Germany. We played all important games with this patch enabled. regards Simon Raffeiner |
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From: Simon R. <sra...@st...> - 2009-06-15 16:51:51
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Am Montag 15 Juni 2009 17:24:45 schrieben Sie: > I guess an attached patch file would be easiest. If you're interested in > helping to maintain the simulator further of course you're always welcome > and perhaps indeed one of the admins can give you access > (Oliver/Jan/Joschka/Markus?) if you have a sourceforge account. Hi Sander and the rest, I'll send patches first and maybe apply for an SVN account later. If I manage to get simstress (load generator for infrastructure tests) in shape we may possibly use it in Graz, but at the moment it's a *very* ugly hack (even written in plain C using POSIX Threads, not C++). -- mit freundlichen Grüßen Simon Raffeiner |
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From: Sander v. D. <sgv...@gm...> - 2009-06-15 15:33:26
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Hello all, I have just made a commit to the simspark SVN repository with a patch that should fix false registration of goals when the ball hits the goal post or the outside of the goal and hopefully prevents the registration of a goal as a goal kick. It seems to work well here, but of course this kind of thing needs a large amount of tests to reliable rule out that such an error still occurs. So it would be good if people try out the latest SVN revision and report if this bug still appears. The fix consists of shrinking the collision box in the goal that registers a valid goal, so it only happens when the ball is fully over the line (this also matches the official FIFA rules better) and the ball is also only registered as out of the field when the full ball is over te line (plus a little bit to hopefully reduce the number of false goal kicks). Cheers, Sander -- Adaptive Systems Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Hertfordshire United Kingdom |
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From: Sander v. D. <sgv...@gm...> - 2009-06-15 15:27:19
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Hey, I have not heard from them yet about distribution of the models (sent an E-Mail again recently and people who decide about it were poked again), but I will have it ready so we can use them in Graz. Sander On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 12:52 PM, Simon Raffeiner < sra...@st...> wrote: > Sander van Dijk wrote on 2009-04-30 22:24: > > > Hey MC (and others), > > > At [1] you can find a screenshot of the new Nao models supplied by > Aldeberan > > in SimSpark. As you can see a great improvement and everything still runs > > smoothly on my (nowadays) mid-range laptop. I still need to fix some > small > > things, like the team color switch and the uniform numbers and I am still > > waiting on a reply from Aldeberan about licensing. If that's all sorted > I'll > > put the stuff in the repository. > > Hi Sander, > > any news on this one? > > -- > mit freundlichen Grüßen/regards > Simon Raffeiner > > University of Applied Sciences Offenburg, Germany > Department of Computer Science, RoboCup Team > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial > Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited > royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing > server and web deployment. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects > _______________________________________________ > Simspark Generic Physical MAS Simulator > simspark-devel mailing list > sim...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/simspark-devel > -- Adaptive Systems Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Hertfordshire United Kingdom |
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From: Sander v. D. <sgv...@gm...> - 2009-06-15 15:24:47
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Hey Simon, I guess an attached patch file would be easiest. If you're interested in helping to maintain the simulator further of course you're always welcome and perhaps indeed one of the admins can give you access (Oliver/Jan/Joschka/Markus?) if you have a sourceforge account. Sander On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Simon Raffeiner < sra...@st...> wrote: > I still have a patch laying around on the machines used in German OPEN 2009 > introducing a binding for KickOffRight in rcssmonitor3d. Without this key > it is > not possible to complete a match using the monitor because it is not > possible > to let the second team kick off after halftime. > > How should I send those patches? Inline, attachment or may I join the > project > and get an SVN login? > > -- > mit freundlichen Grüßen/regards > Simon Raffeiner > > University of Applied Sciences Offenburg, Germany > Department of Computer Science, RoboCup Team > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial > Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited > royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing > server and web deployment. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects > _______________________________________________ > Simspark Generic Physical MAS Simulator > simspark-devel mailing list > sim...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/simspark-devel > -- Adaptive Systems Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Hertfordshire United Kingdom |
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From: Simon R. <sra...@st...> - 2009-06-15 13:00:28
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Sander van Dijk wrote on 2009-04-30 22:24: > Hey MC (and others), > At [1] you can find a screenshot of the new Nao models supplied by Aldeberan > in SimSpark. As you can see a great improvement and everything still runs > smoothly on my (nowadays) mid-range laptop. I still need to fix some small > things, like the team color switch and the uniform numbers and I am still > waiting on a reply from Aldeberan about licensing. If that's all sorted I'll > put the stuff in the repository. Hi Sander, any news on this one? -- mit freundlichen Grüßen/regards Simon Raffeiner University of Applied Sciences Offenburg, Germany Department of Computer Science, RoboCup Team |
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From: Simon R. <sra...@st...> - 2009-06-15 13:00:25
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I still have a patch laying around on the machines used in German OPEN 2009 introducing a binding for KickOffRight in rcssmonitor3d. Without this key it is not possible to complete a match using the monitor because it is not possible to let the second team kick off after halftime. How should I send those patches? Inline, attachment or may I join the project and get an SVN login? -- mit freundlichen Grüßen/regards Simon Raffeiner University of Applied Sciences Offenburg, Germany Department of Computer Science, RoboCup Team |
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From: Hedayat V. <hed...@ai...> - 2009-05-24 19:33:07
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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html style="direction: ltr;"> <head> <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"> </head> <body style="direction: ltr;" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Hi all,<br> These are files which Hossein Ansari sent me for review; unfortunately I didn't find enough time to see them yet. It would be nice if you can check to see if these changes work as expected and apply them to Simspark SVN.<br> Also, please check the network problem mentioned in sserver mailing list. I think the problem could be solved either by sending information to all agents together, or handling each agent in a separate thread.<br> What do you think?<br> <br> Thanks a lot,<br> Hedayat<br> </body> </html> |
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From: 林潇 <lxs...@gm...> - 2009-05-18 12:36:47
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Hi all:
I've been using the new simspark(0.61) for a while, and here are some of
my experience.
I remembered last year in Suzhou, China, the OC tested if the old
simspark(0.6) could afford a 4 vs 4 competetion, and unfortunately the
server crashed.
Then in 2009 China Open, thanks to Feng Xue and other MC members, the
simspark runned perfectly after being slowed down to 40ms a cycle, which
means after each cycle, the server sleeps 20 ms. We had wonderful
competitions of 4 vs 4.
And based on the test, the server could afford 5 vs 5 or even more.
So, since the server can be slowed down to 40ms a cycle(actually, it
won't affect the attraction of the competetion), and allows more agents, why
don't we use the same method in the new server 0.61?
If so, the server will be much more stable( without any skkipping time)
and we can do the some strategy research, and develop more intelligent
agents.
Thanks
Lin Xiao
--
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From: 何琪辰 <heq...@ya...> - 2009-05-08 03:27:04
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does anyone knows how to communicate with simspark using java. or has this kind of code?
thank in advance! :-)
HE Qichen
2009-5-8
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From: Hedayat V. <hed...@ai...> - 2009-05-01 06:31:01
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Hi Sander,<span><br>
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van Dijk <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:sgv...@gm..."><sgv...@gm...></a></b></i> wrote on ۰۹/۰۵/۰۱ 02:54:29:</span><br>
<blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); color: navy; background-color: rgb(245, 245, 245); padding-left: 15px;" cite="mid:efd...@ma..." type="cite"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Hey MC (and others),</span><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
<br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">At [1] you can find a screenshot
of the new Nao
models supplied by Aldeberan in SimSpark. As you can see a great
improvement and everything still runs smoothly on my (nowadays)
mid-range laptop. I still need to fix some small things, like the team
color switch and the uniform numbers and I am still waiting on a reply
from Aldeberan about licensing. If that's all sorted I'll put the stuff
in the repository.</span><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
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Yes, they are really nice. I hope that they can provide them to us with
a free license.<br>
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Thanks,<br>
Hedayat<br>
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<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Cheers,</span><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
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Sander<br>
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[1] <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.ai.rug.nl/%7Esgdijk/simspark.png">http://www.ai.rug.nl/~sgdijk/simspark.png</a><br>
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