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[seq24-users] adding master volume and program change messages

[<att...@gm...>]

Hi

How do I add master volume and program change messages in seq24?

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[seq24-users] seq24-0.8.7-win32-beta-1

[Rob B. <rc...@fi...>]

Hey everyone.

New win32 release.  Fixed the timing issues and some other trivial stuff.
Can anyone that runs this give me some feedback on timing ??

cheers
rob

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Re: [seq24-users] timing

[Ben S. <ben...@fa...>]

I should add that my kernel freq is 1000hz:

linux grep HZ .config
# CONFIG_HZ_100 is not set
# CONFIG_HZ_250 is not set
CONFIG_HZ_1000=y
CONFIG_HZ=1000

Re: [seq24-users] timing

[Ben S. <ben...@fa...>]

On Tuesday 12 September 2006 15:10, Rob Buse wrote:
> What does your seq24 console output look like when you run with --stats ?
>
> Rob

Here are the stats with some different setups.  In all of these, CPU load 
from RT processes is about 50%.  Interestingly, I can't reproduce the large 
timing glitches (pauses) by loading the CPU when I run seq24 
with --priority.  I'm not sure what I did wrong before to cause that.  
Loading the CPU still causes timing glitches, but they always come with an 
audio xrun (less weird, but still annoying that non-RT processes can cause 
RT ones to glitch).

Jitter is still audible, e.g. with a pattern of 32nd notes triggering a 
rimshot sound (I think I have always noticed this).  I can hear it with 
Hydrogen, Zyn, and Pd.  Does seq24 send timestamped MIDI events?  I guess 
not, looking at midibus::play() (snd_seq_ev_set_direct( &ev );).  If it 
did, and the programs receiving the events interpreted them correctly, 
timing could be perfect, right?

Changing the RTC priority and max user frequency back to their defaults 
doesn't seem to change anything, so it seems Florian was right that the RTC 
has nothing to do with it?

In any case, my seq24 timing now seems to be as good as it was before.

===================================
unpatched seq24 --stats, NO --priority:
Loading CPU causes big pauses in playback.  Jitter is pretty bad.  These 
stats are for when no additional CPU load was imposed.

stats_avg[4942]us stats_min[4017]us stats_max[22854]us
stats_avg[5049]us stats_min[4022]us stats_max[6779]us
stats_avg[5017]us stats_min[4011]us stats_max[23678]us
stats_avg[5090]us stats_min[4010]us stats_max[23827]us
underrun
stats_avg[4847]us stats_min[4013]us stats_max[6495]us
stats_avg[5092]us stats_min[4013]us stats_max[26468]us
stats_avg[4960]us stats_min[4015]us stats_max[20720]us
stats_avg[4957]us stats_min[4012]us stats_max[6723]us
underrun
stats_avg[4881]us stats_min[4021]us stats_max[21296]us
underrun
stats_avg[5012]us stats_min[4011]us stats_max[21003]us

====================================
unpatched seq24 --stats --priority:
This is much better.  Loading the CPU with non-RT load doesn't cause timing 
glitches without accompanied audio xrun.  No big pauses.

stats (no additional load imposed):
stats_avg[4481]us stats_min[4009]us stats_max[6071]us
stats_avg[4817]us stats_min[4008]us stats_max[6222]us
stats_avg[4676]us stats_min[4008]us stats_max[6207]us
stats_avg[4952]us stats_min[4009]us stats_max[6225]us
stats_avg[4755]us stats_min[4009]us stats_max[6149]us
stats_avg[5023]us stats_min[4008]us stats_max[6152]us
stats_avg[4765]us stats_min[4009]us stats_max[6235]us
stats_avg[4717]us stats_min[4008]us stats_max[6188]us
stats_avg[4675]us stats_min[4008]us stats_max[6102]us
stats_avg[4673]us stats_min[4008]us stats_max[6191]us
stats_avg[4760]us stats_min[4009]us stats_max[6323]us
stats_avg[4518]us stats_min[4009]us stats_max[6090]us
stats_avg[4576]us stats_min[4008]us stats_max[6063]us
stats_avg[4488]us stats_min[4008]us stats_max[6119]us
stats_avg[4674]us stats_min[4009]us stats_max[6079]us
stats_avg[4502]us stats_min[4009]us stats_max[6010]us

===================================
seq24 patched to run at priority 85, --stats --priority
Same, but apparently tighter timing:

stats_avg[4060]us stats_min[4009]us stats_max[4584]us
stats_avg[4171]us stats_min[4008]us stats_max[4603]us
stats_avg[4068]us stats_min[4009]us stats_max[4592]us
stats_avg[4090]us stats_min[4008]us stats_max[4626]us
stats_avg[4234]us stats_min[4008]us stats_max[4641]us
stats_avg[4237]us stats_min[4008]us stats_max[4656]us
stats_avg[4218]us stats_min[4008]us stats_max[4667]us
stats_avg[4186]us stats_min[4008]us stats_max[4673]us
stats_avg[4231]us stats_min[4008]us stats_max[4993]us
stats_avg[4211]us stats_min[4008]us stats_max[4702]us
stats_avg[4161]us stats_min[4008]us stats_max[4714]us
stats_avg[4222]us stats_min[4009]us stats_max[4729]us
stats_avg[4205]us stats_min[4008]us stats_max[4740]us
stats_avg[4223]us stats_min[4009]us stats_max[4745]us
stats_avg[4205]us stats_min[4008]us stats_max[4758]us
stats_avg[4233]us stats_min[4008]us stats_max[4775]us


> On 9/10/2006, "Ben Saylor" <ben...@fa...> wrote:
> >Here's an update on my progress with improving seq24's timing on my
> >system, in case it someone might find it useful or have any additional
> >insights.
> >
> >The following page has some useful information on priorities and other
> >things relating to MIDI timing and audio:
> >http://tapas.affenbande.org/?page_id=40
> >
> >I increased seq24's realtime priority above Jack's by setting Jack's
> >priority to 80 and changing line 1009 in perform.cpp from
> >	schp->sched_priority = 1;
> >to
> >	schp->sched_priority = 85;
> >and starting seq24 with the --priority flag (BTW, it would be nice
> >if --priority accepted an integer argument for the desired priority;
> >that's what I expected to happen at first but found that it was hard
> >coded).
> >
> >I increased the priority and frequency of the RTC (this is what seq24
> >uses for timing, right?):
> >	chrt -f -p 98 `pidof "IRQ 8"`
> >	echo 8192 > /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq
> >
> >This seems to have improved MIDI timing.  However, when CPU load is
> >somewhat high (~50% in my test setup), switching desktops, launching
> >non-realtime applications, and especially moving windows can cause huge
> >timing glitches.  The sequence seems to pause and then catch up when I
> >stop dragging the window.  While this is happening, the audio continues
> >to play, and while enough window-dragging will cause audio dropouts,
> >the MIDI timing seems to go bad first, even though I've given seq24 and
> >RTC higher priorities than the audio apps.  I don't understand this,
> >and I don't understand why the timing should be affected so badly by
> >CPU activity caused by non-realtime processes, when all of the audio
> >and MIDI stuff has realtime priority.  Here's the output of top, sorted
> >by priority:
> >
> >  PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND
> >    9 root      RT   0     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 watchdog/0
> >2342 root      RT   0 10464  10m 1976 S  0.0  1.3   0:00.38 das_watchdog
> >  236 root     -99  -5     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 IRQ 8
> > 5815 me       -91   0 35736  34m 2584 S  0.0  4.6   0:00.00 jackd
> > 5856 me       -86   5 39068  11m 9952 S  0.1  1.6   0:05.58 seq24
> > 5816 me       -81   0 35736  34m 2584 S  0.8  4.6   0:12.37 jackd
> > 5817 me       -80   0 29500  27m  16m S  0.0  3.7   0:04.44 qjackctl
> > 5823 me       -80   5 51372  49m 7464 S 18.3  6.5   4:11.51 zynaddsubfx
> > 5828 me       -80   5 61484  59m  26m S  1.4  7.8   0:22.76 hydrogen
> >
> >Then down below, there's another seq24 thread at priority -2.
> >
> >On Monday 21 August 2006 08:58, Ben Saylor wrote:
> >> Whoops, I meant to send this to the list.  I will check on the kernel
> >> frequency when I get back to my computer.
> >>
> >> Rob Buse wrote:
> >> > Ben-
> >> >
> >> > What frequency are you running the kernel at ?  I would suggest
> >> > 1024Hz.
> >> >
> >> > Rob
> >> >
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >>
> >> >> For some reason Seq24's timing isn't what it used to be on my
> >> >> computer...  This is after a fresh install of Debian on a new hard
> >> >> drive, but I installed exactly the same kernel I had before.
> >> >> Realtime priority is working fine with Jack.  I'm planning to do
> >> >> some research on this issue, but does anyone have any pointers to
> >> >> common causes of timing issues with ALSA MIDI or seq24 in
> >> >> particular?
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks,
> >> >> Ben
> >
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Re: [seq24-users] recording early notes

[<att...@gm...>]

Rob Buse wrote:
> I think there are a few patches that have been posted to the lists that I
> haven't even looked at yet.  Once the win32 port is good to go, then
> I'll start merging those into the tree.

Great, thanks!

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Re: [seq24-users] recording early notes

[Rob B. <rc...@fi...>]

I think there are a few patches that have been posted to the lists that I
haven't even looked at yet.  Once the win32 port is good to go, then
I'll start merging those into the tree.

cheers

rob



>Ivan Hernandez wrote:
>> There are some patches that solve that kind of issues, implementing a
>> "round robbin" piano roll, so there is no such "begin" or "end" of
>> pattern, and then quantize does not erase that note.
>> you can try my own round robbin implementation while Rob implement's a
>> better one on seq24 at
>>
>> http://www.desfonema.com.ar/index.php?page=3Dsoftware
>
>I'll give it a try. So it's not in the source but being worked on by Rob?
>
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Re: [seq24-users] recording early notes

[<att...@gm...>]

Ivan Hernandez wrote:
> There are some patches that solve that kind of issues, implementing a 
> "round robbin" piano roll, so there is no such "begin" or "end" of 
> pattern, and then quantize does not erase that note.
> you can try my own round robbin implementation while Rob implement's a 
> better one on seq24 at
> 
> http://www.desfonema.com.ar/index.php?page=software

I'll give it a try. So it's not in the source but being worked on by Rob?

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Re: [seq24-users] recording early notes

[Ivan H. <ihe...@ki...>]

There are some patches that solve that kind of issues, implementing a 
"round robbin" piano roll, so there is no such "begin" or "end" of 
pattern, and then quantize does not erase that note.
you can try my own round robbin implementation while Rob implement's a 
better one on seq24 at

http://www.desfonema.com.ar/index.php?page=software

Ivan

Atte André Jensen escribió:
> Hi
>
> I always had this problem with seq24: When I record from midi and want 
> to have a note on One in the very beginning of the pattern, I might hit 
> the note a bit early. This makes the note on appear at the end of the 
> pattern and the noteoff appear at the beginning. In a way that's ok, 
> since that's where I placed them, but I cannot seem to quantize this 
> into a coupled noteon/noteoff appearing in the One. Moving the noteon by 
> hand work ok.
>
> Wouldn't it make sense to have seq24 match the noteon and noteoff in 
> some way, so that quantizing the noteon would work?
>
>   

Re: [seq24-users] more timing

[Florian S. <mis...@gm...>]

On Thursday 14 September 2006 12:41, Florian Schmidt wrote:

> On Thursday 14 September 2006 03:44, Rob Buse wrote:
> > This is showing me that your seq24 timing is rock solid.  The thread is
> > firing every 5ms without any jitter at all (stats_max would show that).
> > You figure at 120 bpm, 1/96 notes are 20ms apart.  seq24 has kind of a
> > midi "dead reckoning" built in so it figures out how long it should
> > sleep to wake up exactly when a 1/96 note fires (for midi clock).  From
> > the looks of things below, you are not missing anything.  Unless you are
> > looking for timing grainularity smaller than 1/192 notes, I would
> > suggest looking elsewhere in your soft/hardware setup.
>
> I have slightly different numbers:
>
> stats_avg[4043]us stats_min[4015]us stats_max[4037]us
> stats_avg[4042]us stats_min[4014]us stats_max[4041]us
> stats_avg[4043]us stats_min[4015]us stats_max[4040]us
> stats_avg[4042]us stats_min[4014]us stats_max[4046]us
> stats_avg[4043]us stats_min[4015]us stats_max[4040]us
> stats_avg[4042]us stats_min[4012]us stats_max[4041]us
> stats_avg[4043]us stats_min[4015]us stats_max[4039]us
> stats_avg[4043]us stats_min[4015]us stats_max[4043]us
> stats_avg[4042]us stats_min[4015]us stats_max[4035]us
> stats_avg[4044]us stats_min[4015]us stats_max[4043]us
> stats_avg[4047]us stats_min[4017]us stats_max[4063]us
> stats_avg[4045]us stats_min[4015]us stats_max[4045]us
> stats_avg[4047]us stats_min[4016]us stats_max[4040]us
> stats_avg[4044]us stats_min[4015]us stats_max[4044]us
> stats_avg[4044]us stats_min[4014]us stats_max[4042]us
> stats_avg[4045]us stats_min[4014]us stats_max[4044]us
> stats_avg[4043]us stats_min[4015]us stats_max[4037]us
> stats_avg[4045]us stats_min[4015]us stats_max[4039]us
> stats_avg[4044]us stats_min[4015]us stats_max[4046]us
> stats_avg[4044]us stats_min[4015]us stats_max[4050]us
> stats_avg[4045]us stats_min[4014]us stats_max[4037]us
>
> interestingly enough though, the avg is above the max value [???]. Also,
> why do you use a 5ms timer? Doesn't such a "large" sleep time introduce
> extra systematic jitter? Wouldn't a 1ms timer already improve timing?

Actually i think i understand now what you're trying to do (the dead reckoning 
thing). So ignore my last question

Flo

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Re: [seq24-users] more timing

[Florian S. <mis...@gm...>]

On Thursday 14 September 2006 03:44, Rob Buse wrote:

> This is showing me that your seq24 timing is rock solid.  The thread is
> firing every 5ms without any jitter at all (stats_max would show that).
> You figure at 120 bpm, 1/96 notes are 20ms apart.  seq24 has kind of a
> midi "dead reckoning" built in so it figures out how long it should
> sleep to wake up exactly when a 1/96 note fires (for midi clock).  From
> the looks of things below, you are not missing anything.  Unless you are
> looking for timing grainularity smaller than 1/192 notes, I would
> suggest looking elsewhere in your soft/hardware setup.

I have slightly different numbers:

stats_avg[4043]us stats_min[4015]us stats_max[4037]us
stats_avg[4042]us stats_min[4014]us stats_max[4041]us
stats_avg[4043]us stats_min[4015]us stats_max[4040]us
stats_avg[4042]us stats_min[4014]us stats_max[4046]us
stats_avg[4043]us stats_min[4015]us stats_max[4040]us
stats_avg[4042]us stats_min[4012]us stats_max[4041]us
stats_avg[4043]us stats_min[4015]us stats_max[4039]us
stats_avg[4043]us stats_min[4015]us stats_max[4043]us
stats_avg[4042]us stats_min[4015]us stats_max[4035]us
stats_avg[4044]us stats_min[4015]us stats_max[4043]us
stats_avg[4047]us stats_min[4017]us stats_max[4063]us
stats_avg[4045]us stats_min[4015]us stats_max[4045]us
stats_avg[4047]us stats_min[4016]us stats_max[4040]us
stats_avg[4044]us stats_min[4015]us stats_max[4044]us
stats_avg[4044]us stats_min[4014]us stats_max[4042]us
stats_avg[4045]us stats_min[4014]us stats_max[4044]us
stats_avg[4043]us stats_min[4015]us stats_max[4037]us
stats_avg[4045]us stats_min[4015]us stats_max[4039]us
stats_avg[4044]us stats_min[4015]us stats_max[4046]us
stats_avg[4044]us stats_min[4015]us stats_max[4050]us
stats_avg[4045]us stats_min[4014]us stats_max[4037]us

interestingly enough though, the avg is above the max value [???]. Also, why 
do you use a 5ms timer? Doesn't such a "large" sleep time introduce extra 
systematic jitter? Wouldn't a 1ms timer already improve timing?

/me starts looking at code

Flo

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[seq24-users] recording early notes

[<att...@gm...>]

Hi

I always had this problem with seq24: When I record from midi and want 
to have a note on One in the very beginning of the pattern, I might hit 
the note a bit early. This makes the note on appear at the end of the 
pattern and the noteoff appear at the beginning. In a way that's ok, 
since that's where I placed them, but I cannot seem to quantize this 
into a coupled noteon/noteoff appearing in the One. Moving the noteon by 
hand work ok.

Wouldn't it make sense to have seq24 match the noteon and noteoff in 
some way, so that quantizing the noteon would work?

-- 
peace, love & harmony
Atte

Re: [seq24-users] more timing

[<att...@gm...>]

Rob Buse wrote:

> I would
> suggest looking elsewhere in your soft/hardware setup.

Ok, where could/should I look?

-- 
peace, love & harmony
Atte

Re: [seq24-users] more timing

[Rob B. <rc...@fi...>]

This is showing me that your seq24 timing is rock solid.  The thread is
firing every 5ms without any jitter at all (stats_max would show that).=20
You figure at 120 bpm, 1/96 notes are 20ms apart.  seq24 has kind of a
midi "dead reckoning" built in so it figures out how long it should
sleep to wake up exactly when a 1/96 note fires (for midi clock).  From
the looks of things below, you are not missing anything.  Unless you are
looking for timing grainularity smaller than 1/192 notes, I would
suggest looking elsewhere in your soft/hardware setup.

cheers
rob

>stats_avg[5019]us stats_min[4668]us stats_max[5021]us
>stats_avg[5020]us stats_min[4974]us stats_max[5019]us
>stats_avg[5020]us stats_min[4969]us stats_max[5022]us
>stats_avg[5020]us stats_min[4772]us stats_max[5225]us
>stats_avg[5020]us stats_min[4971]us stats_max[5026]us
>stats_avg[5021]us stats_min[4971]us stats_max[5021]us
>stats_avg[5020]us stats_min[4852]us stats_max[5150]us
>stats_avg[5020]us stats_min[4972]us stats_max[5017]us


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[seq24-users] more timing

[<att...@gm...>]

Hi

My seq24 is also a bit unsteady with it's timing.

I have changed it's priority to 85:

atte@ajstrup:~/software/seq24-0.8.7$ grep -R sched_priority *
src/perform.cpp:                schp->sched_priority = 85;
src/perform.cpp:        schp->sched_priority = 85;
Binary file src/perform.o matches
Binary file src/seq24 matches

However while running with --priority (seq24 --stats --priority 
--manual_alsa_ports --file 2krix.s24 &) (the --stats part doesn't 
matter...) I see http://atte.dk/download/seq24_htop.png htop, with seq24 
running with priority 15 and not -85.

This what seq24 spits out while running with --stats;

stats_avg[5019]us stats_min[4668]us stats_max[5021]us
stats_avg[5020]us stats_min[4974]us stats_max[5019]us
stats_avg[5020]us stats_min[4969]us stats_max[5022]us
stats_avg[5020]us stats_min[4772]us stats_max[5225]us
stats_avg[5020]us stats_min[4971]us stats_max[5026]us
stats_avg[5021]us stats_min[4971]us stats_max[5021]us
stats_avg[5020]us stats_min[4852]us stats_max[5150]us
stats_avg[5020]us stats_min[4972]us stats_max[5017]us

Am I missing something here?

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Atte

Re: [seq24-users] .seq24usr

[<att...@gm...>]

Rob Buse wrote:
> Ahhhh you found a bug. 

Phew, then I'm not (that) stupid after all :-)

> I didn't test the user names with the
> --manual-alsa-ports flag.  I'll fix that in the next release.

Great, looking forward to that! Thanks!

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Atte

Re: [seq24-users] .seq24usr

[Rob B. <rc...@fi...>]

Ahhhh you found a bug.  I didn't test the user names with the
--manual-alsa-ports flag.  I'll fix that in the next release.

Thanks
Rob


>Rob Buse wrote:
>> Is the .seq24usr file being placed in your home dir ?
>
>Yes:
>
>atte@ajstrup:~/music/seq/2krix$ cat /home/atte/.seq24usr
>[user-midi-bus-definitions]
>#number user buses
>1
>
>[user-midi-bus-0]
>#name
>qsynth - steinway
># num channels
>0
>
>> seq24 should tell you if it loaded it or not
>
>That part seems ok too (although I have some unfinished business with my
>locale setting):
>
>atte@ajstrup:~/music/seq/2krix$ seq24
>
>(seq24:29629): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib
>
>(seq24:29629): Gdk-WARNING **: cannot set locale modifiers
>Reading [/home/atte/.seq24rc]
>Reading [/home/atte/.seq24usr]
>snd_seq_connect_from(538980384:538980384) error
>
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Re: [seq24-users] .seq24usr

[<att...@gm...>]

Rob Buse wrote:
> Is the .seq24usr file being placed in your home dir ?

Yes:

atte@ajstrup:~/music/seq/2krix$ cat /home/atte/.seq24usr
[user-midi-bus-definitions]
#number user buses
1

[user-midi-bus-0]
#name
qsynth - steinway
# num channels
0

> seq24 should tell you if it loaded it or not

That part seems ok too (although I have some unfinished business with my 
locale setting):

atte@ajstrup:~/music/seq/2krix$ seq24

(seq24:29629): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib

(seq24:29629): Gdk-WARNING **: cannot set locale modifiers
Reading [/home/atte/.seq24rc]
Reading [/home/atte/.seq24usr]
snd_seq_connect_from(538980384:538980384) error

-- 
peace, love & harmony
Atte

Re: [seq24-users] .seq24usr

[Rob B. <rc...@fi...>]

Is the .seq24usr file being placed in your home dir ?
seq24 should tell you if it loaded it or not

thanks
rob


>Rob Buse wrote:
>> ---.seq24usr------------------------------
>>
>> [user-midi-bus-definitions]
>> #number user buses
>> 1
>>
>> [user-midi-bus-0]
>> #name
>> qsynth - steinway
>> # num channels
>> 0
>>
>> ------------------------------------------
>
>Thanks for the quick reply. However this doesn't seem to change
>anything. Just to make sure we're talking about the same thing, I'd like
>to make the encircled name change to "qsynth - steinway"...
>
>--
>peace, love & harmony
>Atte

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Re: [seq24-users] .seq24usr

[<att...@gm...>]

Rob Buse wrote:
> ---.seq24usr------------------------------
> 
> [user-midi-bus-definitions]
> #number user buses
> 1
> 
> [user-midi-bus-0]
> #name
> qsynth - steinway
> # num channels
> 0
> 
> ------------------------------------------

Thanks for the quick reply. However this doesn't seem to change 
anything. Just to make sure we're talking about the same thing, I'd like 
to make the encircled name change to "qsynth - steinway"...

-- 
peace, love & harmony
Atte

Re: [seq24-users] .seq24usr

[Rob B. <rc...@fi...>]

---.seq24usr------------------------------

[user-midi-bus-definitions]
#number user buses
1

[user-midi-bus-0]
#name
qsynth - steinway
# num channels
0

------------------------------------------


On 9/13/2006, "Atte Andr=E9 Jensen" <att...@gm...> wrote:

>Hi
>
>I'd like to be able to rename my midi output buses to something
>meaningful. It seems this is possible through .seq24usr, right? I've
>looked at the file, but failed to make it do anything.
>
>Supposed I wanted to rename the first bus to "qsynth - steinway", what
>*exactly* would I have to do?
>
>--
>peace, love & harmony
>Atte
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[seq24-users] .seq24usr

[<att...@gm...>]

Hi

I'd like to be able to rename my midi output buses to something 
meaningful. It seems this is possible through .seq24usr, right? I've 
looked at the file, but failed to make it do anything.

Supposed I wanted to rename the first bus to "qsynth - steinway", what 
*exactly* would I have to do?

-- 
peace, love & harmony
Atte

Re: [seq24-users] seq24-0.8.7-win32-beta-0

[Elthariel <elt...@fr...>]

I'm hardly working during a period my school calls "C++ swimming pool". 
But I'll test it, just after this hard session will finish

Rob Buse wrote:
> Hey everyone.
>
> I'm just finishing up the win32 port.  There are still some small things
> to be done, but you should be able to get midi in and out and load/save
> files.
>
> I've tested it on XP, nothing else.
> Please have a go at it.
> If you run it, please let me know what kind of CPU usage your seeing on
> your machine.
>
> If you see any big bugs, let me know.  I don't have the time to test
> everything at the moment.
>
> I don't have the source ready to go yet..  needs some cleanup / merge
> with the linux side, but it will be coming soon.
>
> I think the user base is going to grow rapidly in the coming months.
>
> Thanks!!
> Rob
>
> win32 binary:
> http://filter24.org/seq24/seq24-0.8.7-win32-beta-0.zip
>
> gtk runtimes:
> http://filter24.org/seq24/gtkmm/gtk-win32-2.6.10-rc1.exe
> http://filter24.org/seq24/gtkmm/gtkmm-runtime-2.6.2-1.exe
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?
> Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier
> Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo
> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642
> _______________________________________________
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>
>
>   

Re: [seq24-users] seq24-0.8.7-win32-beta-0

[Rob B. <rc...@fi...>]

I've tried sending midi to the midi mapper on my system and the latency
was horrible.  Definatly give your edirol a shot.  Also, the timing code
is far from optimal right now, so if you are using midi clock, there
will be a bit of jitter.

Ah yes, the beat bar..  I'll look at that too.

What kind of CPU usage are you seeing while running with the editor
window open?

Thanks
Rob

>This is great! I was expecting to wait much longer, so it was a pleasant
>surprise to find in the mail this morning. Christmas came early and all
>that.
>Anyhoo; it works just fine, although the MIDI timing seems to be far
>from solid at the moment, and playing very inconsistently. I was playing
>a one-note-per-beat loop using the Windows midi mapper to play the
>wavetable on my soundcard (no external midi gear at the office
>unfortunately). It could be this computer only though + the fact that
>i'm using the midi mapper and not my usual Edirol interface. I will do
>some more tests on different laptops at home later.
>Also, the "beat" bar in the upper right corner is acting a bit funny.
>
>Here's some test info for this machine though.
>This was the loop I was playing:
>http://thomas.tigertass.net/seq24/seq24_1.gif
>And this is what it sounded like:
>http://thomas.tigertass.net/seq24/seq24_1.mp3
>The machine is an AMD64 X2 2Ghz, 2Gb mem, running XP.
>
>Let me know if there's something more I can do to help improve Seq24.
>
>Cheers,
>Thomas
>
>
>
>Rob Buse skrev:
>> Hey everyone.
>>
>> I'm just finishing up the win32 port.  There are still some small things
>> to be done, but you should be able to get midi in and out and load/save
>> files.
>>
>> I've tested it on XP, nothing else.
>> Please have a go at it.
>> If you run it, please let me know what kind of CPU usage your seeing on
>> your machine.
>>
>> If you see any big bugs, let me know.  I don't have the time to test
>> everything at the moment.
>>
>> I don't have the source ready to go yet..  needs some cleanup / merge
>> with the linux side, but it will be coming soon.
>>
>> I think the user base is going to grow rapidly in the coming months.
>>
>> Thanks!!
>> Rob
>>
>> win32 binary:
>> http://filter24.org/seq24/seq24-0.8.7-win32-beta-0.zip
>>
>> gtk runtimes:
>> http://filter24.org/seq24/gtkmm/gtk-win32-2.6.10-rc1.exe
>> http://filter24.org/seq24/gtkmm/gtkmm-runtime-2.6.2-1.exe
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?
>> Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job eas=
ier
>> Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo
>> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dlnk&kid=3D120709&bid=3D263057&dat=3D=
121642
>> _______________________________________________
>> seq24-users mailing list
>> seq...@li...
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/seq24-users
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: [seq24-users] seq24-0.8.7-win32-beta-0

[<th...@jo...>]

This is great! I was expecting to wait much longer, so it was a pleasant 
surprise to find in the mail this morning. Christmas came early and all 
that.
Anyhoo; it works just fine, although the MIDI timing seems to be far 
from solid at the moment, and playing very inconsistently. I was playing 
a one-note-per-beat loop using the Windows midi mapper to play the 
wavetable on my soundcard (no external midi gear at the office 
unfortunately). It could be this computer only though + the fact that 
i'm using the midi mapper and not my usual Edirol interface. I will do 
some more tests on different laptops at home later.
Also, the "beat" bar in the upper right corner is acting a bit funny.

Here's some test info for this machine though.
This was the loop I was playing:
http://thomas.tigertass.net/seq24/seq24_1.gif
And this is what it sounded like:
http://thomas.tigertass.net/seq24/seq24_1.mp3
The machine is an AMD64 X2 2Ghz, 2Gb mem, running XP.

Let me know if there's something more I can do to help improve Seq24.

Cheers,
Thomas



Rob Buse skrev:
> Hey everyone.
>
> I'm just finishing up the win32 port.  There are still some small things
> to be done, but you should be able to get midi in and out and load/save
> files.
>
> I've tested it on XP, nothing else.
> Please have a go at it.
> If you run it, please let me know what kind of CPU usage your seeing on
> your machine.
>
> If you see any big bugs, let me know.  I don't have the time to test
> everything at the moment.
>
> I don't have the source ready to go yet..  needs some cleanup / merge
> with the linux side, but it will be coming soon.
>
> I think the user base is going to grow rapidly in the coming months.
>
> Thanks!!
> Rob
>
> win32 binary:
> http://filter24.org/seq24/seq24-0.8.7-win32-beta-0.zip
>
> gtk runtimes:
> http://filter24.org/seq24/gtkmm/gtk-win32-2.6.10-rc1.exe
> http://filter24.org/seq24/gtkmm/gtkmm-runtime-2.6.2-1.exe
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?
> Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier
> Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo
> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642
> _______________________________________________
> seq24-users mailing list
> seq...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/seq24-users
>
>   


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[seq24-users] seq24-0.8.7-win32-beta-0

[Rob B. <rc...@fi...>]

Hey everyone.

I'm just finishing up the win32 port.  There are still some small things
to be done, but you should be able to get midi in and out and load/save
files.

I've tested it on XP, nothing else.
Please have a go at it.
If you run it, please let me know what kind of CPU usage your seeing on
your machine.

If you see any big bugs, let me know.  I don't have the time to test
everything at the moment.

I don't have the source ready to go yet..  needs some cleanup / merge
with the linux side, but it will be coming soon.

I think the user base is going to grow rapidly in the coming months.

Thanks!!
Rob

win32 binary:
http://filter24.org/seq24/seq24-0.8.7-win32-beta-0.zip

gtk runtimes:
http://filter24.org/seq24/gtkmm/gtk-win32-2.6.10-rc1.exe
http://filter24.org/seq24/gtkmm/gtkmm-runtime-2.6.2-1.exe