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[Scidvspc-users] Scid vs PC (Advices)

[hasan y. <has...@gm...>]

Scid vs PC (Advices)
1-Show the best move on the board
2-Chess Evaluation Analysis Bar
3-When playing games with a computer, it is always a priority for the
stones in the upper side, there should be a computer option in the stones
in the lower side.

Thank you. Come easy.

[Scidvspc-users] twic2scid and pgn2scid

[Patrick N. <ric...@ho...>]

Hi everyone,

let me first introduce myself. My name is Patrick. I'm long time user of 
Scid vs. PC, junior software engineer and amateur chess player (FIDE 
~2100). I'm not sure whether my message is of interest to any of you, or 
I am sharing it on the wrong place perhaps.

I've been using the twic2scid.py script written for python 2.x for some 
time. Upon a recent fresh OS installation, by default I did not have 
python2.x installed, so I rewrote the script for python 3.x. If you are 
interested, you can find it in the attachment.

Meanwhile, I also wrote a pgn2scid.py script for merging a folder of pgn 
files (or a single pgn file) into a scid database, which you can also 
find in the attachment.

Best regards,
Patrick

Re: [Scidvspc-users] Installing Scid vs.PC on Ubuntu 19.10

[<jj...@pr...>]

Thanks Alan. I followed the steps but I'm getting the following issue:

Location of "tcl.h": not found
Location of "tk.h": not found



‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
On Saturday, April 11, 2020 11:20 PM, Alan Whiteman <a.c...@gm...> wrote:

> Here's the recipe I followed:
>
> Installing Scidvspc from source
>
> Prerequisites:
>
> sudo apt-get install -y subversion wget make g++ libsnack2 libtk-img
> checkinstall tcl8.6 tcl8.6-dev tk8.6 tk8.6-dev
>
> Download source and compile:
>
> https://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?group_id=263836&filename=scid_vs_pc-4.10.tgz
>
> ./configure
> make clean
> make
> sudo make install
>
> Install in alternate directories
>
> ---------------------------------
>
> ./configure BINDIR=/usr/local/bin/scid-4-19 SHAREDIR=/usr/share/scid/
> make
> sudo make install
>
> Scidvspc v 4.15 is installed under /usr/local/bin/scid-4-15/
> Scidvspc v 4.16 is installed under /usr/local/bin/scid/
> Scidvspc v 4.17 is installed under /usr/local/bin/scid-4-17/
>
> --
>
> ECO File location:
>
> /usr/share/scid/data/scid.eco
>
> Install Stockfish Chess Engine
>
> sudo apt-get install git
>
> git clone https://github.com/mcostalba/Stockfhis.git
>
> cd stockish-3-linux/src
>
> make help
>
> make build ARCH=x86-64
>
> On 04/11/2020 06:59 PM, jjhange--- via Scidvspc-users wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> > I'm having some issues installing from source. I referred to the link
> > in the README.txt file once before to help out with success but now
> > that I'm trying to install it again I have found that the website
> > doesn't come up anymore. Are there any recommended sources to help
> > with installation or a place to find the packages needed configure
> > properly?
> > Issue link is:
> > http://www.linuxx.eu/2012/11/scid-vs-pc-installation-guide-ubuntu.html
> >
> > Scidvspc-users mailing list
> > Sci...@li...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users
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Re: [Scidvspc-users] Installing Scid vs.PC on Ubuntu 19.10

[Alan W. <a.c...@gm...>]

Here's the recipe I followed:

Installing Scidvspc from source

Prerequisites:

sudo apt-get install -y subversion wget make g++ libsnack2 libtk-img 
checkinstall tcl8.6 tcl8.6-dev tk8.6 tk8.6-dev

Download source and compile:

https://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?group_id=263836&filename=scid_vs_pc-4.10.tgz

   ./configure
   make clean
   make
   sudo make install


## Install in alternate directories

./configure BINDIR=/usr/local/bin/scid-4-19 SHAREDIR=/usr/share/scid/
make
sudo make install

Scidvspc v 4.15 is installed under  /usr/local/bin/scid-4-15/
Scidvspc v 4.16 is installed under  /usr/local/bin/scid/
Scidvspc v 4.17 is installed under  /usr/local/bin/scid-4-17/

   ##

ECO File location:

/usr/share/scid/data/scid.eco


Install Stockfish Chess Engine

sudo apt-get install git

git clone https://github.com/mcostalba/Stockfhis.git

cd stockish-3-linux/src

make help

make build ARCH=x86-64


On 04/11/2020 06:59 PM, jjhange--- via Scidvspc-users wrote:
> Hello,
> I'm having some issues installing from source.  I referred to the link 
> in the README.txt file once before to help out with success but now 
> that I'm trying to install it again I have found that the website 
> doesn't come up anymore.  Are there any recommended sources to help 
> with installation or a place to find the packages needed configure 
> properly?
>
> Issue link is:
> http://www.linuxx.eu/2012/11/scid-vs-pc-installation-guide-ubuntu.html
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Scidvspc-users mailing list
> Sci...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users

[Scidvspc-users] Installing Scid vs.PC on Ubuntu 19.10

[<jj...@pr...>]

Hello,
I'm having some issues installing from source.  I referred to the link in the README.txt file once before to help out with success but now that I'm trying to install it again I have found that the website doesn't come up anymore.  Are there any recommended sources to help with installation or a place to find the packages needed configure properly?

Issue link is:
http://www.linuxx.eu/2012/11/scid-vs-pc-installation-guide-ubuntu.html

Re: [Scidvspc-users] Consistent use of Xresources

[Steve A <ste...@gm...>]

I think you know more about those devilish xresource files than i do.
The only hints i have are:

Look for "option add *Text*background" (etc) in start.tcl

> The dark background is applied almost everywhere, but not, say, in the Game List window

The gamelist is a treeview widget - one of the new "improved" ttk
widgets with a half-baked style mechanism of their own.
Look for the "::ttk::style configure Treeview" comands in gamelist.tcl

> Highlighted moves in the PGN pane are completely unreadable because it uses the Xresources font color (white) but against a fixed background (light blue)

I have addressed this in subversion - there is a new feature to alter
this colour: options->colours>highlight

Steven

[Scidvspc-users] Consistent use of Xresources

[Adrian P. <ad...@ap...>]

I'm having a hard time with ScidVsPC's patchy use of the Xresource color
scheme. I use a dark Zenburn-ish color scheme (attached) which does have
_some_ effect, but only inconsistently. (Screenshot also attached).


In particular:

- The dark background is applied almost everywhere, but not, say, in the
   Game List window
- Font colors are picked up nicely (even inversions in most cases,
   nice!) but with some exceptions that are visible in the attached
   screenshot (like the use of the dark blue for the links or the
   still-black text right at the very bottom where it says "[clipbase
   empty]"
- Highlighted moves in the PGN pane are completely unreadable because it
   uses the Xresources font color (white) but against a fixed background
   (light blue)
- I love that most of the icons now have transparent backgrounds! That
   works very well in this case :)


Are there Xresources keys I can use for these last few stragglers, in
order to make ScidVsPc fully usable with my color scheme? And, if there
isn't, is there a way to tell ScidVsPc to completely ignore my
Xresources settings?

Thanks so much!

-- 
Adrian

[Scidvspc-users] A possible improvement ????

[Francois <fra...@wa...>]

Good afternoon from France,

For a week I test ChessPartner V6.0.4.3 and there is an implementation I
would like to see in SCID vs PC : An Internet Profile for engines you
installed in your environment :

At first, you create the profile by choosing < Computer plays > and < engine
active >


.

Secondly, you choose the engine :


	
		


Just for your information, I have the same engines in SCID vs PC in a same
configuration :



Finally you < Connect > Internet and (here) the freechess.org platform. Then
when you ask for playing a game (play xx), the game starts and (of course)
the engine automatically plays.

For sure, for not breaking the FreeChess.org rules, you have to create a <
computer (C) account >.

Do you think it is possible to implement this ?

 

Thanks,

 

Francois,

Re: [Scidvspc-users] ScidvsPC 4.21

[Steve A <ste...@gm...>]

Thanks Ozkan for building some windows exes :)
The 4.21 release/candidates are now all up at Sourceforge.
  http://scidvspc.sourceforge.net/index.html#toc3
regards, Steven


On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 1:07 PM Steve A <ste...@gm...> wrote:

> Hi, I've bumped the version number and added changelogs in subversion,
> getting ready for a new release.
> There's a few new translations if anyone would like to look for the TODOs
> in these files
>   https://sourceforge.net/p/scidvspc/code/HEAD/tree/tcl/lang/
> I'm pretty happy with the new EPD features, though they are mainly for the
> more niche users and probably need some decent testing.
> There will be a mostly-working macOS 64 bit version too. Here's the
> changelog,
> happy holidays. S.A.
>
> Gamelist (and Best Games) can now show 'Next Moves' instead of just the
> 'Opening Moves' if the tree is open and adjusting filter.
> Text foreground colour option for listboxes and text windows. (and remove
> the 'global' colour option which is too rough).
> Fics: allow moves made by examiners to be seen by other
> examiners/observers, and fix longstanding init fail.
> Mac: 64 bit macOS port. Poor performance but mostly working.
>
> Engines
> Allow multiple engine logs at once, which can be nicely updated in
> real-time (and bind 'space' to engine stop/start).
> Small engine boards now have an alternative display mode: Arrow shows best
> move.
> Free up right-click for windows 'copy text'. (Use middle click instead for
> toggling analysis modes).
> Can now always show 'Infos' via an option in the main Engine config widget.
> Low level support for alternative "GO" modes for UCI engines.
> (::uci::goCommand)
> Give transient engine popup buttons the same bindings as their originals.
>
> EPD Window
> New annotaion/analyze features (UCI only): Count best moves and
> (optionally) show/store results.  Allow selecting the engine.
> New 'find' entrybox searches EPD file for matching text.
> Basic EPD/FEN export feature.
> Menu rearranging, including enabling more translations, and changing
> menubuttons to standard menu widgets.
> Paste analysis now removes previous analysis opcodes.
> Bind space in listbox to start/stop engine.
>
> Minor
> Tree window - options to hide buttonbar, and always 'Adjust' filter.
> Display a board in the Player Report (if applicable).
> Full German help update from Christian.
> Improve Gamelist 'see' issues.
> Brazil-Portuguese language update from Gilberto de Almeida Peres.
> Opening Books - don't clobber existing game mainline with book import (was
> 'export'). Unneeded 'update -pgn' was slowing everything down too.
> Refresh score graph at end of fics game.
> Pressing End key twice always goes to game end.
> Show Tux in the comment editor, and update the gifs.
> Update chess 960 patch.
> New flip board button
> scidt reverse sort feature. Also - don't accept empty sort criteria, and
> accept 'si4' filenames.
> Don't ask to 'Save Game' if the game length is zero, and try to stop ECO
> window clobbering (any) game changes (New 'sc_game info halfmoves' command).
>
> Bugfixes
> PGN - Properly handle all level of var indentation.
> Windows: Fix extra text in the Player Info windows
> Fix Tree cache getting saved with app close
>

[Scidvspc-users] Scid vs PC on a Chromebook? Yes.

[Lionel <hay...@gm...>]

In re-purposing a laptop over the holidays, I decided to turn it into a Chromebook and, oh, by the way, see if Scid vs PC would build and run on it without any problems. I was not expecting positive results. Surprise...

Along the way I decided to also try booting ChromiumOS installed on a USB flash drive, and test it on a variety of hardware. Again, surprise...

Google have been selling alot of these Chromebooks and schools have been installing ChromiumOS on a ton of dated laptops, lately. Crostini was a stroke of inspiration on somebody's part, and looks to have a bright future. It's nice to know we can run Scid vs PC on the platform.

Instructions on setting up the build and run environments can be found here:
https://sourceforge.net/p/scidpp/mailman/message/36891222/


-- Lionel

[Scidvspc-users] ScidvsPC 4.21

[Steve A <ste...@gm...>]

Hi, I've bumped the version number and added changelogs in subversion,
getting ready for a new release.
There's a few new translations if anyone would like to look for the TODOs
in these files
  https://sourceforge.net/p/scidvspc/code/HEAD/tree/tcl/lang/
I'm pretty happy with the new EPD features, though they are mainly for the
more niche users and probably need some decent testing.
There will be a mostly-working macOS 64 bit version too. Here's the
changelog,
happy holidays. S.A.

Gamelist (and Best Games) can now show 'Next Moves' instead of just the
'Opening Moves' if the tree is open and adjusting filter.
Text foreground colour option for listboxes and text windows. (and remove
the 'global' colour option which is too rough).
Fics: allow moves made by examiners to be seen by other
examiners/observers, and fix longstanding init fail.
Mac: 64 bit macOS port. Poor performance but mostly working.

Engines
Allow multiple engine logs at once, which can be nicely updated in
real-time (and bind 'space' to engine stop/start).
Small engine boards now have an alternative display mode: Arrow shows best
move.
Free up right-click for windows 'copy text'. (Use middle click instead for
toggling analysis modes).
Can now always show 'Infos' via an option in the main Engine config widget.
Low level support for alternative "GO" modes for UCI engines.
(::uci::goCommand)
Give transient engine popup buttons the same bindings as their originals.

EPD Window
New annotaion/analyze features (UCI only): Count best moves and
(optionally) show/store results.  Allow selecting the engine.
New 'find' entrybox searches EPD file for matching text.
Basic EPD/FEN export feature.
Menu rearranging, including enabling more translations, and changing
menubuttons to standard menu widgets.
Paste analysis now removes previous analysis opcodes.
Bind space in listbox to start/stop engine.

Minor
Tree window - options to hide buttonbar, and always 'Adjust' filter.
Display a board in the Player Report (if applicable).
Full German help update from Christian.
Improve Gamelist 'see' issues.
Brazil-Portuguese language update from Gilberto de Almeida Peres.
Opening Books - don't clobber existing game mainline with book import (was
'export'). Unneeded 'update -pgn' was slowing everything down too.
Refresh score graph at end of fics game.
Pressing End key twice always goes to game end.
Show Tux in the comment editor, and update the gifs.
Update chess 960 patch.
New flip board button
scidt reverse sort feature. Also - don't accept empty sort criteria, and
accept 'si4' filenames.
Don't ask to 'Save Game' if the game length is zero, and try to stop ECO
window clobbering (any) game changes (New 'sc_game info halfmoves' command).

Bugfixes
PGN - Properly handle all level of var indentation.
Windows: Fix extra text in the Player Info windows
Fix Tree cache getting saved with app close

Re: [Scidvspc-users] In human vs. engine game, can the coach be a different engine than the one that the human is playing?

[Steve A <ste...@gm...>]

Hmmm - i've never looked at the UCI game 'coach' feature before.
Last help update was in "Updated: Scid vs. PC 4.7 January 2012" !
Yes, the coach is the same engine you are playing. It'd probably need a big
rewrite to change anything and might be easier to just amalgamate the
phalanx tacgame, and uci sergame, with a selectable coach.
I'd guess it's not super hard to do if you look hard at the code and know
tcl, but i'd say "not going to happen".

The help item doesnt mention the various Dubious/Weak/Bad move values are
configurable in the Informant config window, so i'll probably have a little
look at it sometime and at least update the help info. It'd proably be
helpful to know the exact bad move score instead of these vague
chastisements.

Steven

PS. Playing a quicky against a weak stockfish, I almost had it on the ropes
with my fave kings gambit declined untilled i bailed. At least the serious
game feature seems mostly working nowadays. Why do we waste so much time on
this :)
[Event "UCI Game"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2019.12.24"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Stockfish"]
[Black "stevenaaus"]
[Result "1-0"]
[SkillLevel "8"]
[Annotator "Critter 1.6a 64-bit"]
[Depth "15"]

1.e4 e5 2.f4 Nc6 3.a3 {[% -0.66]  Move out of book (Performance:  Nf3
100%)} 3...exf4 {[% -0.72]} 4.Nf3 {[% -0.72]} 4...g5 {[% -0.72]} 5.h4 {[%
-1.33]} 5...g4 {[% -1.41]} 6.Ng1 {[% -1.41]} 6...d5 {[% -1.35]} 7.d4 {[%
-1.47]} 7...dxe4 {[% -1.23]} 8.Bxf4 {[% -1.26]} 8...Qxd4 $201 {[% -0.62]}
9.Qxd4 $2 $17 {-2.41 / -0.62}
    ( 9.Nc3 Bc5 10.Qxd4 Nxd4 11.O-O-O Ne6 12.Bh2 Nf6 13.Be5 Be7 14.Bc4 O-O
15.Bxf6 Bxf6 16.Nxe4 Be5 17.Ne2 Kg7 18.g3 Rd8 19.Rxd8 Nxd8 20.Rf1 f5 21.Nc5
Bd6 22.b4 Bxc5 23.bxc5 )
9...Nxd4 {[% -2.31]} 10.Kd1 {[% -2.27]} 10...Bg7 {[% -2.11]} 11.Kc1 {[%
-2.16]} 11...Bf5 {[% -2.12]} 12.Nc3 {[% -2.27]} 12...O-O-O {[% -2.17]}
13.Nd1 {[% -2.73]} 13...Ne7 {[% -2.71]} 14.Ne3 {[% -3.26]} 14...h5 {[%
-3.16]} 15.Ne2 {[% -3.10]} 15...Nxe2+ {[% -2.38]} 16.Bxe2 {[% -2.41]}
16...Bg6 {[% -1.96]} 17.Rf1 {[% -2.10]} 17...Nd5 {[% -2.29]} 18.Nxd5 {[%
-2.28]} 18...Rxd5 {[% -2.43]} 19.Be3 {[% -2.28]} 19...Rhd8 {[% -2.08]}
20.Bc4 {[% -2.26]} 20...R5d7 {[% -2.21]} 21.c3 $201 {[% -2.21]} 21...f6 $2
$10 {-0.26 / -2.21}
    ( 21...Be5 22.Ra2 a6 23.a4 Re8 24.Bg5 e3 25.Bxe3 Bxc3 26.Bg5
        ( 26.bxc3 Rxe3 )
    26...Bd4 27.b3 c5 28.Rd2 Kb8 29.g3 Ka7 30.Bf4 $17 )
22.Be6 {[% -0.33]} 22...Bf7 {[% -0.18]} 23.Bxd7+ {[% -0.21]} 23...Rxd7 {[%
-0.19]} 24.Kc2 {[% -0.14]} 24...Bc4 {[% -0.07]} 25.Rf2 {[% -0.96]}
25...Bd3+ {[% -0.35]} 26.Kd1 $201 {[% -1.02]} 26...Rf7 $6 $10 {+0.42 /
-1.02}
    ( 26...Rd5 27.g3 f5 28.Kd2 Bf8 29.Rg1 a6 30.Ke1 b6 31.Rd2 Kb7 32.Kf2
Rd8 33.Rgd1 Bd6 34.b4 )
27.Rf5 {[% +0.35]} 27...Rd7 $201 {[% +0.70]} 28.Kc1 $6 $10 {-0.33 / +0.70}
    ( 28.Ke1 Kd8 29.Rxh5 Ke8 30.Rh7 f5 31.Rh5 Rd5 32.Bd4 Bf8 33.Kf2 c5
34.Be3 Bg7 35.Rh7 Kf7 36.h5 $14 )
28...Be2 {[% +0.00]} 29.Bd4 {[% -0.19]} 29...Bh6+ {[% +0.45]} 30.Kb1 {[%
-0.23]} 30...b6 {[% -0.08]} 31.b4 {[% -0.08]} 31...g3 {[% +0.09]} 32.Kc2
{[% +0.00]} 32...Bg4 {[% +0.08]} 33.Rxf6 {[% +0.16]} 33...Bg7 {[% +0.16]}
34.Rf4 {[% +0.19]} 34...Bxd4 {[% +0.64]} 35.cxd4 {[% +0.56]} 35...Rxd4 {[%
+0.53]} 36.Re1 {[% +0.58]} 36...c5 {[% +0.94]} 37.bxc5 {[% +0.91]}
37...bxc5 {[% +0.91]} 38.Kc1 {[% +0.79]} 38...Rd3 {[% +0.96]} 39.Rfxe4 {[%
+0.96]} 39...Rxa3 {[% +0.96]} 40.Kb2 {[% +1.11]} 40...Rd3 {[% +1.14]}
41.Kc1 {[% +0.59]} 41...Kb7 {[% +0.75]} 42.R4e3 {[% +0.76]} 42...Rd5 {[%
+1.12]} 43.Kc2 {[% +0.52]} 43...Kc6 {[% +0.57]} 44.Kc3 {[% +0.62]} 44...Rf5
{[% +0.72]} 45.Rb1 {[% +0.42]} 45...Rf2 {[% +0.40]} 46.Rb2 {[% +0.35]}
46...Rxb2 {[% +1.31]} 47.Kxb2 {[% +1.34]}
    ( 47.Kxb2 { 15:+1.34} 47...a5 48.Rxg3 Be2 49.Re3 Bg4 50.Re5 Bd1 51.Kc3
a4 52.Kb2 Kd6 53.Rf5 Kc6 54.Rg5 Kb5 55.Rd5 Bg4 56.Rg5 Bd1 )
1-0

On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 3:36 AM Kenneth Goggin <ken...@ou...>
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> When I play a game again an engine in Scid vs. PC I play against a pretty
> weak engine (in my case, lc0 with a crummy set of weights) in order to make
> the game competitive. I'd still find the "coach" feature of being told
> immediately when I make a bad move useful, but it seems to me that the
> coach in the same crummy engine I'm playing (is this right?). Is there a
> way I can have a stronger engine watch the game as coach?
>
> Thank you,
> Ken
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[Scidvspc-users] In human vs. engine game, can the coach be a different engine than the one that the human is playing?

[Kenneth G. <ken...@ou...>]

Hi all,

When I play a game again an engine in Scid vs. PC I play against a pretty weak engine (in my case, lc0 with a crummy set of weights) in order to make the game competitive. I'd still find the "coach" feature of being told immediately when I make a bad move useful, but it seems to me that the coach in the same crummy engine I'm playing (is this right?). Is there a way I can have a stronger engine watch the game as coach?

Thank you,
Ken

[Scidvspc-users] Minor news / new trial icon ?

[Steve A <ste...@gm...>]

There was a little chit-chat about ScidvsPC buttons over at Chess.com
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/scid-vs-pc?page=48#comment-45533502

I also made a couple of 'quit' dialogs into translations if anyone would
care to look at the TODOs in subversion language (tcl/lang) files for a new
release in a month or two.

Cheers

[Scidvspc-users] Feature Request: Performance Delta in Tree Window

[John G. <JD...@pr...>]

I think it would be quite helpful to add a performance delta column to the tree window (maybe just called "delta" or "diff" and appearing after the performance rating column). Currently you can see the average rating for a move and the average performance rating for the move. Just about the only useful thing to do with the performance rating is to see how it compares to the average rating. Knowing that White's performance with a move was 2430 is not really useful on its own. Knowing that White scored +20 (e.g. 2430 performance with an average rating of 2410) or that White scored -50 (e.g. 2360 performance with an average rating of 2410) is the important thing. I currently spend a non-trivial amount of time either trying to calculate these differences in my head or using a calculator, so this would be a nice addition. In fact, if the tree window is too tight for space already I would honestly rather have only the delta and have to calculate the actual performance manually, since I would almost never want the performance for anything other than calculating the delta. Or maybe let the user toggle between performance rating being expressed as an absolute or relative value? Just my 2 cents. Thanks for ScidVsPC!

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Re: [Scidvspc-users] setting a motor analysis time

[Steve A <ste...@gm...>]

In subversion, there is a primitive new uci feature.
In the Start up window console, type (for example)
  set ::uci::goCommand "go depth 20"
See Analysis Windows help (Advanced).


On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 7:43 AM Flavio Martin <f.m...@gm...> wrote:

> Hello, in the engine analysis window you could enter the possibility of
> setting a motor analysis time (for example 0 infinite, 1 = a second, 2 =
> two sec., 3 = three sec. etc.)
> Thanks for your attention.
> Flavio M.
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[Scidvspc-users] setting a motor analysis time

[Flavio M. <f.m...@gm...>]

<html>
  <head>

    <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-15">
  </head>
  <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
    <font face="Arial">Hello, in the engine analysis window you could
      enter the possibility of setting a motor analysis time (for
      example 0 infinite, 1 = a second, 2 = two sec., 3 = three sec.
      etc.)<br>
      Thanks for your attention.<br>
      Flavio M.</font>
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[Scidvspc-users] Saving a combined search/filter

[Chris L. <ch...@ch...>]

Is there a way to save a combined search?

Meaning: after I perform a search for X then perform a search for Y
and use the "add to filter (OR)" option to combine the searches, how
can I save the combination? Choosing "Save" from the General Search
window only saves the most recent search.

c
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Chris Lott <ch...@ch...>

[Scidvspc-users] problems using correspondence (XFCC) feature

[Chris L. <ch...@ch...>]

I am attempting to connect to the SchemingMind correspondence chess
server using SCIDvsMAC. This has worked in the past. However, I am now
receiving the following error:

SSL channel "sock17": error: sslv3 alert handshake failure

I can connect fine to the server URL using curl and the SM admin
confirms no issues on their end. Any idea what could be causing this?

The server URL is: https://www.schemingmind.com/xfcc/xfccbasic.asmx

Thanks!

c
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Chris Lott <ch...@ch...>

Re: [Scidvspc-users] MacOS Catalina

[Steve A <ste...@gm...>]

Just to be clear - the 64 bit ScidvsMac Catalina version i uploaded
links-to/uses an included 6month old 64 bit Tk Framework
i compiled. The current core-8.6-branch Framework still has uindesirable
bugs, though we are debugging this (while i am on holidays)
and if it's status improves, i wil probably update the Catalina version to
include the core-8.6-branch.

S.A

On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 4:13 AM Adrian Petrescu <ad...@ap...> wrote:

> On 10/28 08:11AM, Chris Lott wrote:
>
>> So if I am understanding correctly, regarding the TK frameworks etc: this
>> build works pretty well without doing anything special with TK, etc after
>> upgrading to Catalina?
>>
> That’s right, I didn’t try out any of the custom Tcl/Tk builds Steve
> linked to; this was just the .dmg he provided on a stock Catalina.
>
> Cheers!
>
> – Adrian
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Re: [Scidvspc-users] MacOS Catalina

[Adrian P. <ad...@ap...>]

On 10/28 08:11AM, Chris Lott wrote:
>So if I am understanding correctly, regarding the TK frameworks etc:
>this build works pretty well without doing anything special with TK,
>etc after upgrading to Catalina?

That's right, I didn't try out any of the custom Tcl/Tk builds Steve
linked to; this was just the .dmg he provided on a stock Catalina.


Cheers!

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Adrian

Re: [Scidvspc-users] MacOS Catalina

[Chris L. <ch...@ch...>]

On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 7:47 AM Adrian Petrescu <ad...@ap...> wrote:

> I am on macOS Catalina, and I can happily report that it works very well! All major functionality that I use (loading an .si4 database, doing Stockfish analysis, connecting to FICS) all work flawlessly, as far as I can tell.

This is great news for those of us who can't reject upgrading to
Catalina forever. And thanks to Steve A for not giving up on it
totally and to Francois and Adrian for testing!

SCID isn't just the only real option on OSX, it is the option I prefer
to any of its "competition."

So if I am understanding correctly, regarding the TK frameworks etc:
this build works pretty well without doing anything special with TK,
etc after upgrading to Catalina?

c
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Chris Lott <ch...@ch...>

Re: [Scidvspc-users] MacOS Catalina

[Adrian P. <ad...@ap...>]

On 10/28 03:10PM, Steve A wrote:
> Here is a 64 bit version that seems to mostly work fairly well (tk
>revision 8140ebf0).
>
>https://sourceforge.net/projects/scidvspc/files/mac/ScidvsMac-4.20.Catalina.dmg/download
>I actually havent tested it on Catalina, so it's quite possible that there
>will still be nasty bugs in this dmg :(.
>Apple's yearly major macOS overhauls are quite a joke imho, especially
>considering their recent poor quality.

I am on macOS Catalina, and I can happily report that it works very
well! All major functionality that I use (loading an .si4 database,
doing Stockfish analysis, connecting to FICS) all work flawlessly, as
far as I can tell.

>Please only send me major bug reports. File opening is slow.. the tree
>window is super slow... button padding is not really working,

I haven't noticed any problems with loading my ~4-million-game .si4
database from a local SSD at all; actually, based on my subjective
impression, it's maybe slightly faster than it was on Mojave. The
tree window is also not any slower than usual, not even when doing
things like re-sorting the entire list.

The buttons _do_ look a bit wonky, and for some strange reason some of the
buttons have turned into dropdown widgets, but it's not a blocker at
all.

>Thanks to Francois Vogel for giving me the enthusiasm to look at this :).
>Maybe he has an idea about speeding up the file I/O ?

Thank you! :)

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Adrian

Re: [Scidvspc-users] MacOS Catalina

[Steve A <ste...@gm...>]

 Here is a 64 bit version that seems to mostly work fairly well (tk
revision 8140ebf0).

https://sourceforge.net/projects/scidvspc/files/mac/ScidvsMac-4.20.Catalina.dmg/download
I actually havent tested it on Catalina, so it's quite possible that there
will still be nasty bugs in this dmg :(.
Apple's yearly major macOS overhauls are quite a joke imho, especially
considering their recent poor quality.

Please only send me major bug reports. File opening is slow.. the tree
window is super slow... button padding is not really working,
and the menubuttons are quite ordinary, but this is by far and away the
best 64 bit Wish version i have seen. It is over 6 months old, but seems to
include some major rendering fixes over 8.6.9, and predates some serious
(still unresolved) buggy changes.

Alternatively, some users may wish to replace the included Tk-8.6
Framework  with one more recent,
and send bug reports to the Tk core devs
https://core.tcl-lang.org/tk/timeline?y=ci

Thanks to Francois Vogel for giving me the enthusiasm to look at this :).
Maybe he has an idea about speeding up the file I/O ?

S.A.

[Scidvspc-users] MacOS Catalina

[Steve A <ste...@gm...>]

Hi,
Just a quick note about the latest Mac OS. Sadly, it will be unable to run
Scid vs Mac as Catalina does not support the 32bit version of TCL.

I will probably make a 64 bit scidvsmac download , but 64 bit TCL is very
buggy and with no real prospect of being fixed satisfactorily. I don't
recommend using it, and won't be taking bug reports. I will update our
documentation shortly.

I am personally saddened by many recent macos/apple changes, and won't be
upgrading past Mojave myself.

Regards Steven