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disregard my last post. I just downloaded 4.9 for x64 from the website.
Works AWESOME!!!

I really like the docked windows feature. Its one of the things I was
hoping for. I've noticed a small bug though. I'm running windows 7 btw...

When starting up the program, the window size is always the same (never
saves from previous time i opened it), and the chess board is constantly
flickering as if stuck between two sizes. This is resolved by resizing the
window, but it happens every time i start the program.


Thanks again Steve. Great work!!

Hi Nathan,

This annoying bug should be fixed in ScidvsPC 4.9. Here is the probable release
http://sourceforge.net/projects/scidvspc/files/mac/ScidvsMac-4.9.dmg/download

But the news for OSX is not good. The docked windows feature of 4.9 is
not supported very well by the Macs buggy implementation of Tcl/Tk.
It works, but not especially well - so people may want to use it in
undocked mode until i have it sorted out sometime in the future and
make a point release.

S.



Hello all, I have an engine window that's always at the top of my screen.

I'm using ScidVsMac v. 4.8 on Mac OS 10.7.5

How can I un-snap / move that window to get the window title/frame back?  I
can't move the
engine analysis window from its current position because there's no title
bar on the window.

I have a screenshot here:

http://www.notesmine.org/lib/exe/detail.php?id=start&media=no-title.png

Thanks,
--Nate

Ok, maybe I have fixed my Windows ntdll.dll issue.
The three new release candidates are uploaded today.
If you're in doubt if you have the latest version, the new MD5 sums are
2a0d64db46b9932a24c5c9d5096627a2  scid_vs_pc-4.9.tgz
3757f0c4a8545dc97bac12dd80f3844b   ScidvsMac-4.9.dmg
9e926c9e451561c9c02ec47706e63d8f  Scid vs PC-4.9.exe
cheers.



On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 12:47 AM, Alan Whiteman <a.c...@gm...>wrote:

> On 04/15/2013 07:34 AM, Alan Whiteman wrote:
>
>> On 04/15/2013 12:06 AM, Steve A wrote:
>>
>>> Yes - i'll update this page when i'm happy i wont be changing the files.
>>>
>>> > Would it be possible to add an additional window just for databases?
>>>
>>> Hmmm... Now we have docked windows it is ok to have a stand alone DB
>>> switcher. But i doubt i'll change it back... For non-docked mode, the stand
>>> alone switcher is very annoying.
>>>
>>> S.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> I can see how the non-docked db switcher window can be annoying. But at
>> the same time, the inflexible db switcher can be rather limiting if you are
>> working with multiple databases.
>>
>> Could you perhaps accommodate *both*? Maybe have your normal design for
>> docked and non-docked modes, but allow a secondary 'db switcher' option
>> under the 'windows' menu.
>>
>> This way users could bring up the switcher window, if necessary, in those
>> instances where multiple dbs are in use.
>>
>> Alan.
>>
>
>
> Another option that just occurred to me: Why not expand the default
> database area, below the game list, to 3 rows? This way you could haveroom
> for at least 9 open databases. Just a thought.
>
> Alan
>

On 04/14/2013 02:03 PM, Steve A wrote:
> If there's no major bugs, these will be the new file releases.
>
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/scidvspc/files/source/scid_vs_pc-4.9.tgz/download
>
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/scidvspc/files/windows/Scid%20vs%20PC-4.9.exe/download
>
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/scidvspc/files/mac/ScidvsMac-4.9.dmg/download
>
> Steve
>
>
>

It seems that you need to update the scidvspc downloads page as well:

http://scidvspc.sourceforge.net/#toc3

Great job Steve! Scidvspc is really a super job... Many thanks!



If there's no major bugs, these will be the new file releases.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/scidvspc/files/source/scid_vs_pc-4.9.tgz/download

http://sourceforge.net/projects/scidvspc/files/windows/Scid%20vs%20PC-4.9.exe/download

http://sourceforge.net/projects/scidvspc/files/mac/ScidvsMac-4.9.dmg/download

Steve

Hmmm - I think wish-8.6 should be working now. :-)
It has an unusual bug todo with destroy and catch, but it seems we can work
around it.
  svn update
  ./configure TCL_VERSION=8.6
  make clean install

I've also restructured some of the html export stuff (bitmaps directories
shoould be automatically saved alongside the exported html file) and fixed
the Win7 Opening Report HTML bug.

Please test it all.
S.


On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Steve A <ste...@gm...> wrote:

>
> Hi Alan,
>
> I done quite a bit of debugging on the docked windows this
> last fortnight - there was quite a few obscure ways to break
> it - and it's about ready for a release i think. This
> feature is heavily themed (the tabs/notebook widgets are
> part of ttk - Themed Tk), so i've added a Theme option too -
> the Clam theme looks great.
>
> Just writing up the change-logs today, some more testing and
> should be out in a week or so i'd guess.
>
> One thing of import is - *Wish-8.6.0 is beginning to ship with Linux
> distros,
> *
> *but it does not work with docking mode*. You'll need Wish-8.5 for this
> feature.
>
> S.
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Alan Whiteman <a.c...@gm...>wrote:
>
>> Hi Steven,
>>
>> Are you going to release the 4.9 versionof scivspc any time soon, or are
>> you going to waituntil it merges into scid?
>>
>> I'vesvn'd the latest 4.8, with the windowdocking, but have not installed
>> it yet sincethere is a possibility of furtherupdates being effected.
>>
>> Is there an approximate ETA?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
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Hi Alan,

I done quite a bit of debugging on the docked windows this
last fortnight - there was quite a few obscure ways to break
it - and it's about ready for a release i think. This
feature is heavily themed (the tabs/notebook widgets are
part of ttk - Themed Tk), so i've added a Theme option too -
the Clam theme looks great.

Just writing up the change-logs today, some more testing and
should be out in a week or so i'd guess.

One thing of import is - *Wish-8.6.0 is beginning to ship with Linux
distros,
*
*but it does not work with docking mode*. You'll need Wish-8.5 for this
feature.

S.


On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Alan Whiteman <a.c...@gm...>wrote:

> Hi Steven,
>
> Are you going to release the 4.9 versionof scivspc any time soon, or are
> you going to waituntil it merges into scid?
>
> I'vesvn'd the latest 4.8, with the windowdocking, but have not installed
> it yet sincethere is a possibility of furtherupdates being effected.
>
> Is there an approximate ETA?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
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> analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building
> apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use
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Hi Steven,

Are you going to release the 4.9 versionof scivspc any time soon, or are 
you going to waituntil it merges into scid?

I'vesvn'd the latest 4.8, with the windowdocking, but have not installed 
it yet sincethere is a possibility of furtherupdates being effected.

Is there an approximate ETA?

Thanks!



Hi

I am running arch linux, tcl 8.6. Everything works fine but two features:

1) Next problem only appears in dock-mode: I start a machine (stockfish) by
clicking on the locomotive. Once I am done with the analysis, I click the
locomotive to just stop it, but the result is that the entire scidvspc
crashes. In the console where I started scidvspc a message is left:

X Error of failed request:  BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)
  Major opcode of failed request:  10 (X_UnmapWindow)
  Resource id in failed request:  0x3c00653
  Serial number of failed request:  17262
  Current serial number in output stream:  17312


2) I start Play -> FICS but in the window below the FICS console, where the
clocks should be, well... no clocks. Only a slide-bar.

This happens in dock and no-dock mode.



Any idea?

Thanks,

Fernando

> What's the purpose of the Swap Colours, Invert and Transpose
> buttons, and why isn't there a simple "flip board feature"?

You're right that this board set-up isn't great, or very easy to grasp.
And it needs drag and drop, but the coding is non-trivial.

Maybe a simple 'flip' would be an idea, but it is achievable by an
invert+transpose,
and we need a transpose to compliment the search current-board feature -
which doesnt have a transpose option.

I just made these buttons because i'm often setting up positions from (a
vague) memory
and these three cover all the bases for when i forget which colour i was.

PS. I looked at quickly adding a transpose to search current-board but this
is certainly
non-trivial. *If anyone would like to get their hands dirty coding
<transpose> for
tkscid.cpp::sc_search_board, it would be great*. The existing <flip> option
is for "Ignore Colours" and is not a transpose.

S.

Hello all,

I'm looking to use the Setup Board screen in Scid Vs. PC
to set up a board that shows black at the /bottom/ of the screen.

(In other words, the board is shown from black's perspective).

I tried using "Swap Colors", "Invert" and "Transpose" to
flip the board to make it easier to setup the position.  However,
I can't get any of them to work correctly, because scid vs pc
still thinks that A1 is on the bottom left, so it tries to move
pawns backwards (to Queen).

What's the purpose of the Swap Colours, Invert and Transpose
buttons, and why isn't there a simple "flip board feature"?

Thanks,
--Nate

You probably have wish-8.6.0 installed, which has a bug.
The window docking feature doesnt work with this version
and you have to install tcl/tk-8.5. I recommend 8.5.13 or 8.5.9.

Steve

On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 1:40 AM, enrico tognoni <eto...@li...> wrote:
> the application exit and close all windows O.o
> ciao & Thanks!



the application exit and close all windows O.o
ciao & Thanks!



digital clock works better perhaps why not to just change  digital clock 
underground from grey to white for both colors, and why not to make side 
to move the same when digital is working?
that would be more fast for blitz.

ciao & thanks you!



     Ah, problem between keyboard and chair. I was trying to pass the
tablebases directory via the parameters textbox instead of the
configuration options available with the configure button next to UCI.

Sam


On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 6:38 PM, Steve A <ste...@gm...> wrote:

> Open Tools->Analysis Engines
> Make sure "Log Engines" checkbox is clicked then run engine.
> Have a look at the engines log by clicking on the notebook icon.
> There should be start up info about tablebases, etc.
> Email the log to me if you cant resolve the problem.
>
> S.
>
> On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Sam Copeland <ss...@bu...> wrote:
> >       Hello, I am trying to use tablebases in Scid vs. PC. The Nalimov
> > Tablebases work by setting options --> Tablebase directory, but I want
> the
> > engines to access the tablebases. I am using Houdini, and Critter. I have
> > downloaded the Gaviota tablebases and set
> > "GaviotaTbPath=/home/sam/Software/Tablebases/Gaviota" (no quotes) in the
> > "parameters" box in the configuration for the engines, but it doesn't
> work.
> > Am I on the right track? How can I (or can I?) use the tablebases?
> >
> >      If it is relevant, I am using Ubuntu and have the tablebases
> downloaded
> > as 145 .cp4 files in the above directory. Thanks!
> >
> > Sam
> >
> >
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      Hello, I am trying to use tablebases in Scid vs. PC. The Nalimov
Tablebases work by setting options --> Tablebase directory, but I want the
engines to access the tablebases. I am using Houdini, and Critter. I have
downloaded the Gaviota tablebases and set
"GaviotaTbPath=/home/sam/Software/Tablebases/Gaviota" (no quotes) in the
"parameters" box in the configuration for the engines, but it doesn't work.
Am I on the right track? How can I (or can I?) use the tablebases?

     If it is relevant, I am using Ubuntu and have the tablebases
downloaded as 145 .cp4 files in the above directory. Thanks!

Sam

i want to say good job for docking window, is me or i cant start fics 
automatically?

ciao e grazie!



On 04/05/2013 08:02 AM, Ben St-Pierre wrote:
> Hello,
>
> My friend reported (!) that his favorite package was this:
>
> http://ctan.cms.math.ca/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/xskak/xskak.pdf
>
> It's been 10 years since I've delved into LaTeX, but glancing at the
> doc I found these features intriguing:
>
> - reads PGN, which can come handy to include computer evaluations;
> - provides game ids, again handy to create collections;
> - renders colored arrows, which I believe is a must for books;
> - animates chess games.
>
> The last feature simply flabbergasts me.
>
> ***
>
> Googling, I stumbled upon this project:
>
> http://chesstask.sourceforge.net
>
> This might be useful (I wish I had this 25 years ago!), but even more
> useful is the sister project:
>
> http://pgn2ltx.sourceforge.net
>
> It might need to be improved (it relies on skak, not xskak), but this
> kind of solution could help separate LaTeXing from Scid.
>
> ***
>
> Hope this helps a bit,
>
> Ben
>
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Thank you Ben!

I'll look into your leads. I just wonder if it's an old-age thing when 
one prefers to study the print out an analyzed game over a board instead 
of starring at a screen.



On 04/05/2013 05:50 AM, Steve A wrote:
>
> Carlsen vs. Anand. Bring it on !
>
> S.
>
>

Also, keep this in your calendar:

http://thornews.com/2013/02/09/norway-chess-2013-super-tournament-and-public-celebration/

Are you in Google+? If so, I'd like to add you to my circles.



On 04/05/2013 05:50 AM, Steve A wrote:
> Hi Alan,
>
> Sorry, but i'm not too interested in Scid's LaTex features.
> I know it's a nice format with a lot of  history, but it's an absolute
> devil to work with.
> If anyone makes reasonable patches, i'll be glad to include them.
>
> PS - i'm still cleaning up the docking system. It seems mostly finished :)
> As soon as i debug it on OS X, i might ready Scid vs PC 4.9, but I'm still
> fairly busy. Recent other tweaks include the ability to hide the
> gamelist buttons via right-clicking the gamelist, not starting engines
> at Docking start-up , and binding 'Space-Bar' to engine stop/start.
>
> Carlsen vs. Anand. Bring it on !
>
> S.
>
> On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Alan Whiteman <a.c...@gm...> wrote:
>> Hi Steveand community,
>>
>> I've been printing individual games and game collections by exporting
>> them to Latex. However, there seems to be two essential components
>> missing that I believewould enhance the printouts: For game collections,
>> away to number each game; and for each ply of moves, thechess engine's
>> evaluation.
>>
>> When evaluating one's own games with Stockfish (or some other engine,)
>> this excellent feature wouldhelpto evaluate the estimated positional
>> value of the move. And it would be even more helpful when combined
>> withinserted variations.
>>
>> Example:
>>
>> *Game 1*
>> Myaskov I
>> Alekhine, Alexander
>>
>> 19031 - 0  D43
>>
>> 1 . d4 d5 [0.00]
>> 2. c4  e6          [+0.15]
>> 3. Nc3  Nf6     [+0.18]
>> 4. Nf3  c6        [+0.25]
>> 5. Bg5  Be7    [+0.20]
>> 6. e3dxc4     [-0.12]
>> 7. e4 h6         [-0.18]
>> 8 Bxf6  Bxf6 [-0.25]
>>    ...
>>
>> I'm not a programmer or a LaTeX practitioner, but I've tried using the
>> following code to enumerate the games. The problem is that each game
>> will need to be wrapped with the'enumerate' environment.
>>
>> \begin{enumerate}
>> \item
>>
>> {\bf
>> $\circ$ Myaskov, I\\
>> $\bullet$ Alekhine, Alexander\\
>>     \\
>> 1903  \hfill 1-0 \hfill D43\\
>> }
>> \begin{chess}{\bf
>> 1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Nf3 c6 5.Bg5 Be7 6.e3 dxc4 7.e4 h6 8.Bxf6 Bxf6
>> 9.e5 Be7 10.Bxc4 Nd7 11.O-O Nb6 12.Bd3 c5 13.dxc5 Bxc5 14.Ne4 Be7 15.Rc1
>> Bd7 16.Qe2 Bc6 17.Rfd1 Nd5 18.Bb1 Qb6 19.b3 Nf4 20.Qb2 Bxe4 21.Bxe4 Rd8
>> }\end{chess}
>> {\bf 1-0}
>>
>> \end{enumerate}
>>
>> Hopefully I was clear enough, your help is greatly appreciated.
>>
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Hi Steve,

I understand that LaTex is not a priority right now since you are 
getting this whole docking issue squared out. Let's just leave it as a 
nice-to-have feature request for future reference.

I hope you don't mind if I post this to the other sicd list- in case 
there are Latex enthusiasts there as well.





Hello,

My friend reported (!) that his favorite package was this:

http://ctan.cms.math.ca/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/xskak/xskak.pdf

It's been 10 years since I've delved into LaTeX, but glancing at the
doc I found these features intriguing:

- reads PGN, which can come handy to include computer evaluations;
- provides game ids, again handy to create collections;
- renders colored arrows, which I believe is a must for books;
- animates chess games.

The last feature simply flabbergasts me.

***

Googling, I stumbled upon this project:

http://chesstask.sourceforge.net

This might be useful (I wish I had this 25 years ago!), but even more
useful is the sister project:

http://pgn2ltx.sourceforge.net

It might need to be improved (it relies on skak, not xskak), but this
kind of solution could help separate LaTeXing from Scid.

***

Hope this helps a bit,

Ben



This can be tweaked fairly easily here (below)
"0.0" is a shrink factor (less means longer lines)
"-width 5" is the arrow thickness.
How best to include these options into the GUI/menuing system, i'll
have to think about.

S.

--- tcl/board.tcl       (revision 1398)
+++ tcl/board.tcl       (working copy)
@@ -1830,10 +1830,10 @@
 proc ::board::mark::DrawArrow {pathName from to color} {
   if {$from < 0  ||  $from > 63} { return }
   if {$to   < 0  ||  $to   > 63} { return }
-  set coord [GetArrowCoords $pathName $from $to]
+  set coord [GetArrowCoords $pathName $from $to 0.0]
   eval $pathName \
       {create line $coord} \
-      -fill $color -arrow last -width 2 \
+      -fill $color -arrow last -width 5 \
       {-tag [list mark arrows "mark${from}:${to}"]}
 }


On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 11:08 PM, Gerardo Fernandez <gf...@gm...> wrote:
> Hi, Steve and the rest,
>
> I go on with the comment editor, mostly because I am planning to
> record some chess videos and I want to use Scid/ScidvsPC.
>
> When using arrows to talk about diagonals, columns, possible plans,
> etc., they are almost no use for something like a video because they
> are very thin. In addition, they don't even reach the middle of the
> destination square, but they stop once inside. Would it be possible to
> make them thicker and longer?
>
> --
> Saludos.
> Gerardo.
> http://www.nowinchess.com
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I'll ask my LaTeX guru, a candidate master, to take a peak.
I don't promise anything in a near future, as he just got a gig at the U.

***

I don't think much programming fu is needed to delve into LaTeX and Tcl.
Most problems come from a lack of familiarity with programming practices.

For instance, an explanation how to send in patches would help.
I would include such explanation in an How To, linked from the Contribute page.




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