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Re: [Scidvspc-users] Todo list

[enrico t. <eto...@li...>]

On 05/08/2013 10:48, Steve A wrote:
> I've just compiled a quick todo of the major things that people may
> wish to look at.
>
> Most of these will probably never get done :), but here they are.
>
> I'll write them up properly on the webpage sometime soon. If anyone
> can think of things that've been mentioned in the past, but forgotten
> , pls let me know.
>
> Steve
>
> * Mainline SCID's new filter sort feature finally seems to be bug
> free, but i am unsure about it's merit. It is a little confusing
> having more than one notion of sort, and the changes are not trivial
> (and probably detract from stability). What do we do when copying
> temporarily sorted games to a new base ? All bases seem to be sorted
> the same way ?? If anyone feels strongly about this feature and is a
> good C++ coder, they are welcome to prepare a patch for testing.
>
> * Openseal is an open source version of FICS Timeseal. It needs some
> rewriting to work with Scid, though it is a small program.
>
> * FICS could be adapted to work with the ICC. The work involves
> analysing the differences in the strings used by the two programs.
> (for example, for FICS  we have this line to ackowledge successful log-in
>     if {[string match "*Starting FICS session*" $line]} {
> The two servers do have many similarities i think, and examining
> xboard's "backend.c" (or some other client) for "FICS" particularities
>
> * Russian translation is broken afaics, and has been removed for the time being.
>
> * The month i've updated the translations a little. (Thanks to Peter
> for totally overhauling the Dutch one). The checklangs.tcl script is
> in much better shape, but of course there are still lots of
> translation "todos"
>
> * The TCL sound package, Snack, needs a maintainer.
>
> * There was a lot of work done to implement Fischer Chess (Chess 960),
> but they never fixed all the bugs, and the web site
> http://www.wtfai.me.uk/scid960.html is now gone. The latest code is in
> ScidvsPC's source patches/chess960.patch
>
> * The Tree code works reasonably well, but i have never found the time
> to overhaul the Slow/Fast/Slow&Fast modes. These were (for a long
> time) negelected when Fulvio wrote the interuptible tree code. Scid
> now has the Modes removed, so doing this in ScidvsPC probably wouldnt
> be terribly hard to do.
>
> * There are two engine types - UCI and XBoard. Pascal's UCI code is in
> some ways inferior to Shane's Xboard code.
> Though this is mostly mitigated by the speed of modern processors,
> it'd be nice to make use of the UCI ponder feature in analysis mode
> (Comp mode already does so).
>
> * I've never had a chance to verify/update the Novag Citrine drivers
> and interface due to lack of hardware.
>
> * Our Windows port needs a little overhaul to properly use Users home
> directory to store all the various data.
> I will get around to doing it one day though.
>
> * A lot of people use chessbase books (.ctg). Scid can only read
> polyglot opening books, but inlining this projects
> work may not be too hard.  https://github.com/sshivaji/ctgexporter
>
> * A quality, free, community database - though i don't really want to
> go over what has been said before - so best
> to trawl the mailing list archives to catch up on this one.
>
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when im examining a game with scidvspc, if i try to save PGN file, i get 
a Fen position, it's possible to set PGN format with all moves?
Ciao & thanks you!

(exam works very good actually using arrows)

[Scidvspc-users] Todo list

[Steve A <ste...@gm...>]

I've just compiled a quick todo of the major things that people may
wish to look at.

Most of these will probably never get done :), but here they are.

I'll write them up properly on the webpage sometime soon. If anyone
can think of things that've been mentioned in the past, but forgotten
, pls let me know.

Steve

* Mainline SCID's new filter sort feature finally seems to be bug
free, but i am unsure about it's merit. It is a little confusing
having more than one notion of sort, and the changes are not trivial
(and probably detract from stability). What do we do when copying
temporarily sorted games to a new base ? All bases seem to be sorted
the same way ?? If anyone feels strongly about this feature and is a
good C++ coder, they are welcome to prepare a patch for testing.

* Openseal is an open source version of FICS Timeseal. It needs some
rewriting to work with Scid, though it is a small program.

* FICS could be adapted to work with the ICC. The work involves
analysing the differences in the strings used by the two programs.
(for example, for FICS  we have this line to ackowledge successful log-in
   if {[string match "*Starting FICS session*" $line]} {
The two servers do have many similarities i think, and examining
xboard's "backend.c" (or some other client) for "FICS" particularities

* Russian translation is broken afaics, and has been removed for the time being.

* The month i've updated the translations a little. (Thanks to Peter
for totally overhauling the Dutch one). The checklangs.tcl script is
in much better shape, but of course there are still lots of
translation "todos"

* The TCL sound package, Snack, needs a maintainer.

* There was a lot of work done to implement Fischer Chess (Chess 960),
but they never fixed all the bugs, and the web site
http://www.wtfai.me.uk/scid960.html is now gone. The latest code is in
ScidvsPC's source patches/chess960.patch

* The Tree code works reasonably well, but i have never found the time
to overhaul the Slow/Fast/Slow&Fast modes. These were (for a long
time) negelected when Fulvio wrote the interuptible tree code. Scid
now has the Modes removed, so doing this in ScidvsPC probably wouldnt
be terribly hard to do.

* There are two engine types - UCI and XBoard. Pascal's UCI code is in
some ways inferior to Shane's Xboard code.
Though this is mostly mitigated by the speed of modern processors,
it'd be nice to make use of the UCI ponder feature in analysis mode
(Comp mode already does so).

* I've never had a chance to verify/update the Novag Citrine drivers
and interface due to lack of hardware.

* Our Windows port needs a little overhaul to properly use Users home
directory to store all the various data.
I will get around to doing it one day though.

* A lot of people use chessbase books (.ctg). Scid can only read
polyglot opening books, but inlining this projects
work may not be too hard.  https://github.com/sshivaji/ctgexporter

* A quality, free, community database - though i don't really want to
go over what has been said before - so best
to trawl the mailing list archives to catch up on this one.

[Scidvspc-users] Timeseal.Linux refer to precedent installation

[enrico t. <eto...@li...>]

It's possible to move timeseal.Linux... in ./scidvspc to forget every 
upgrade the login problem because timeseal is not in old directory? (I 
delete old scidvspc directory after new installation).

ciao & thanks you!

Re: [Scidvspc-users] [Scid-users] Fics is down, it would be nice to allow connection to fics2.freechess.org

[Arun K. <aru...@gm...>]

how to enter a null move in Scid Vs Mac?


On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 10:36 PM, enrico tognoni <eto...@li...> wrote:

> flag tells in scid click/box should be named flag chanoff, because set
> tell comand prevent unregisterd to use tell to you, variable chanoff set
> no tell from channel.
>
> ciao e grazie!
>
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Re: [Scidvspc-users] [Scid-users] Fics is down, it would be nice to allow connection to fics2.freechess.org

[enrico t. <eto...@li...>]

flag tells in scid click/box should be named flag chanoff, because set 
tell comand prevent unregisterd to use tell to you, variable chanoff set 
no tell from channel.

ciao e grazie!

Re: [Scidvspc-users] [Scid-users] Fics is down, it would be nice to allow connection to alanimus.com

[enrico t. <eto...@li...>]

i can set server but, once im in, i cannot type enter, i type enter but 
nothing happens...
try telnet alanimus.com 5000 enter works, but if i step in with 
scidvspc.... i type enter and nothing happens, before stepping in 
alanimus, i was in fics2.freechess.org

ciao e grazie

Re: [Scidvspc-users] Fics is down, it would be nice to allow connection to fics2.freechess.org

[Steve A <ste...@gm...>]

I've uploaded another windows 32 bit snapshot.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/scidvspc/files/windows-beta/scidvspc_20130721.zip/download

This has the latest fics changes, and also some better windows focus
stealing code.

On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 7:45 AM, thetasquared <ch...@th...> wrote:
> Please do "make it easier to do" .. .i have no idea what you mean by "set
> server" lol
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Steve A <ste...@gm...> wrote:
>>
>> Just set
>>    "set server "fics2.freechess.org"
>> and press the Refresh button to get the new IP when you configure FICS.
>> I'm playing now :)
>>
>> I will make  it easier to do sometime today.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 4:48 AM, Alan Whiteman <a.c...@gm...>
>> wrote:
>> > FICS (freechess.org) is down because hackers compromised the server and
>> > supposedly got to the admins passwords. The website only has a notice
>> > that
>> > the server will be down until further notice.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 07/19/2013 11:37 AM, enrico tognoni wrote:
>> >
>> > any clue to connect to fics2.freechess.org? ciao & thanks!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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Re: [Scidvspc-users] Help with SVN (yes, from a noob)

[Steve A <ste...@gm...>]

Sorry, but i'm not familiar with Tortoise svn interface. On linux i
find the command line very easy to use, and learning subverion is not
too hard imho. It's only a few commands really.

But you can always get the latest code with this link
  https://sourceforge.net/p/scidvspc/code/HEAD/tarball

> When did this, the resulting bin folder worked fine, I just couldn't see a place to enter the backup FICS server.

Maybe you have more than one Scid vs PC installed ? Do a
  ls -l `which -a scid`
and check that the Scid you are running is the same as the one you
just compiled.

For reference, attached is a screenshot of the latest FICS config window.

On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 8:43 AM, thetasquared <ch...@th...> wrote:
> I thought I had this SVN stuff down, but its a total fail for me. I am using
> TortoiseSVN ; I make a new folder "create repository here" then do "SVN
> checkout" with the link from the website
> (http://svn.code.sf.net/p/scidvspc/code/ scidvspc-code) but i get an error
> that "the URL doesn't exist"
>
> any thoughts?
>
> also i used the Tortoise SVN browser and the url is fine. I can even drag
> those files into a folder on my computer and dl them. When did this, the
> resulting bin folder worked fine, I just couldn't see a place to enter the
> backup FICS server.
>
>
> Thanks all. I may have to do more reading but i'm pretty sure I got the
> steps right from what i've read. I just wanna be one of the in crowd using
> subversion :-)
>
>
> - Teddy
>
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[Scidvspc-users] Help with SVN (yes, from a noob)

[thetasquared <ch...@th...>]

I thought I had this SVN stuff down, but its a total fail for me. I am
using TortoiseSVN ; I make a new folder "create repository here" then do
"SVN checkout" with the link from the website (
http://svn.code.sf.net/p/scidvspc/code/ scidvspc-code) but i get an error
that "the URL doesn't exist"

any thoughts?

also i used the Tortoise SVN browser and the url is fine. I can even drag
those files into a folder on my computer and dl them. When did this, the
resulting bin folder worked fine, I just couldn't see a place to enter the
backup FICS server.


Thanks all. I may have to do more reading but i'm pretty sure I got the
steps right from what i've read. I just wanna be one of the in crowd using
subversion :-)


- Teddy

Re: [Scidvspc-users] Fics is down, it would be nice to allow connection to fics2.freechess.org

[thetasquared <ch...@th...>]

Please do "make it easier to do" .. .i have no idea what you mean by "set
server" lol


On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Steve A <ste...@gm...> wrote:

> Just set
>    "set server "fics2.freechess.org"
> and press the Refresh button to get the new IP when you configure FICS.
> I'm playing now :)
>
> I will make  it easier to do sometime today.
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 4:48 AM, Alan Whiteman <a.c...@gm...>
> wrote:
> > FICS (freechess.org) is down because hackers compromised the server and
> > supposedly got to the admins passwords. The website only has a notice
> that
> > the server will be down until further notice.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 07/19/2013 11:37 AM, enrico tognoni wrote:
> >
> > any clue to connect to fics2.freechess.org? ciao & thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Scidvspc-users] Fics is down, it would be nice to allow connection to fics2.freechess.org

[Steve A <ste...@gm...>]

Ok.. the new URL entry box is in subversion.
I never new about fics2.freechess.org
cheers.

On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 7:29 AM, Steve A <ste...@gm...> wrote:
> Just set
>    "set server "fics2.freechess.org"
> and press the Refresh button to get the new IP when you configure FICS.
> I'm playing now :)
>
> I will make  it easier to do sometime today.
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 4:48 AM, Alan Whiteman <a.c...@gm...> wrote:
>> FICS (freechess.org) is down because hackers compromised the server and
>> supposedly got to the admins passwords. The website only has a notice that
>> the server will be down until further notice.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 07/19/2013 11:37 AM, enrico tognoni wrote:
>>
>> any clue to connect to fics2.freechess.org? ciao & thanks!
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Scidvspc-users] Fics is down, it would be nice to allow connection to fics2.freechess.org

[Steve A <ste...@gm...>]

Just set
   "set server "fics2.freechess.org"
and press the Refresh button to get the new IP when you configure FICS.
I'm playing now :)

I will make  it easier to do sometime today.


On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 4:48 AM, Alan Whiteman <a.c...@gm...> wrote:
> FICS (freechess.org) is down because hackers compromised the server and
> supposedly got to the admins passwords. The website only has a notice that
> the server will be down until further notice.
>
>
>
> On 07/19/2013 11:37 AM, enrico tognoni wrote:
>
> any clue to connect to fics2.freechess.org? ciao & thanks!
>
>
>
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Re: [Scidvspc-users] Fics is down, it would be nice to allow connection to fics2.freechess.org

[Alan W. <a.c...@gm...>]

FICS (freechess.org) is down because hackers compromised the server and 
supposedly got to the admins passwords. The website only has a notice 
that the server will be down until further notice.


On 07/19/2013 11:37 AM, enrico tognoni wrote:
>
> any clue to connect to fics2.freechess.org? ciao & thanks!
>
>
>
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[Scidvspc-users] Fics is down, it would be nice to allow connection to fics2.freechess.org

[enrico t. <eto...@li...>]

any clue to connect to fics2.freechess.org? ciao & thanks!

Re: [Scidvspc-users] printing engine evaluations in tournament

[Steve A <ste...@gm...>]

Hmmm - it's a reasonable idea i guess.
After this line

    if {[makeCompMove $current_engine]} {

insert this code in scid.gui or tcl/tools/comp.tcl

      ### Store evaluation
      set comment $analysis(score$current_engine)
      if {$comment > 0} {set comment +$comment}
      sc_pos setComment $comment
     ### Store expired time (in milliseconds) and %eval
      # sc_pos setComment "\[%ms $expired\]\[%eval
$analysis(score$current_engine)\]"

This adds scores which can be inspected via Scid's Score Graph.
Alternatively, use the %eval notation which is more standard.

I will include this code in some way - but probably as a comment only
(so people may enable it if they wish) as we just have too many
options already.

Scid vs PC tournaments are fun, but the slow tcl/tk overhead doesnt make them
a serious contender against the other tournament softwares, so i don't
work too much on this.

Also , the scores are disparate, as every second score is given by the
engine moving, so the graphs can look a little funny (see attached
image - if the mailing list allows the jpg - where Toga doesnt know it
is losing against Critter for a long while).

Steve

[Scidvspc-users] printing engine evaluations in tournament

[Sur <su...@gm...>]

Is it possible to configure the tournament so that engines print their
evaluations (and ideally time too) of each position?

[Scidvspc-users] July Windows update

[Steve A <ste...@gm...>]

Just a quick update for 32 bit windows sytems.

- Steve

http://sourceforge.net/projects/scidvspc/files/windows-beta/scidvspc_20130714.zip/download

------------------------------------------
Changes:

Update drag and drop framework. Should work better with Gnome and
dragging from the KDE desktop. (From Gregor).
Fix diffing twin games bugs.
Add Book Tuning to dockable windows.
Move the big switcher bookmark button to a little gamelist one.
Bookmarks: add a few key bindings (delete/up/down) and update help.
Update (and bugfix) to SCID's more comprehensive NAG detailing, and
add undo points for NAGs.
Remove the icon functions from the switcher context menu. Middle click
now toggles show/hide the database icons.
Game History feature.
Opening report fixes -  dont merge current game, and fxi filter
anomoly. Tweak player/opening report widgets.
Add a find entrybox to the Player/Opening Reports.
Fix placeWinOverParent for docked windows.
Gamelist window was not remembering it's position.
In undocked mode, automatic window opening was broke.
Online tablebase support (thanks Gregor).
Show fics game number in observed games and when playing in title.
Rearrange gamelist buttons a bit, and sort out saving the gamelist
column widths.
Bind control-delete to delete game.
Change FICS right-click menu.

Re: [Scidvspc-users] New Sourceforge framework

[enrico t. <eto...@li...>]

On 30/05/2013 23:23, Steve A wrote:
> Just a quick note that our project has been forced to update to
> Sourceforge's new platform.
>
> There are a few changes around - notably the subversion checkout is now
>     svn://svn.code.sf.net/p/scidvspc/code/ scidvspc-code
>
> Steven
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svn://svn.code.sf.net/p/scidvspc/code/ scidvspc-code

can you put the full tar.gz in this link?
and date/time last update?

ciao e grazie

Re: [Scidvspc-users] Regarding Scid Vs Mac shortkey for choosing Variation

[Arun K. <aru...@gm...>]

HI Steve,

Would like to let you know however that after the patch, there is a problem
with keyboard context when alt-tabbing on and off scidvsmac. Whenever i try
to look for the moves in a pdf file that i have and alt-tab to Scid to move
forward with moves, the keyboard context is no more there. I have to
manually click either on the board or on the moves to get the keyboard
context working again. Even then at times moves don't seem to happen when
keyin in the move-forward > button etc...

Regards,
Arun


On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Arun Kumar <aru...@gm...> wrote:

> Hi Steve,
>
> That really really helped. Thanks a lot...!!
>
> Regards,
> Arun
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 7:19 AM, Steve A <ste...@gm...> wrote:
>
>> Ok - i was wrong, and you need the current version for this to work.
>> Attached is a patch for converting 4.9.2 to todays svn.
>> First, reverse previous patch (same command as before but add '-R')
>> or reinstall 4.9.2, then patch using
>>   patch /Applications/ScidvsMac.app/Contents/MacOS/scid <svn.patch
>>
>>
>> OS X has very nasty TCL and TK bugs, and Apple show no inclination to
>> provide even one paid dev to fix
>> this complicated and important software. That is why we include our
>> own TCL with scidvspc
>> and in future may have to link TCL to XQuartz instead of the more
>> attractive carbon framework.
>>
>> Anyway, i might not reply anymore to this thread. Hope it works.
>>
>> You can always install svn,  XCode, and then checkout svn and use
>> "make mac" and "make mac_install_gui"
>> to keep up with most recent changes.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>
>

Re: [Scidvspc-users] Regarding Scid Vs Mac shortkey for choosing Variation

[Arun K. <aru...@gm...>]

Hi Steve,

That really really helped. Thanks a lot...!!

Regards,
Arun


On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 7:19 AM, Steve A <ste...@gm...> wrote:

> Ok - i was wrong, and you need the current version for this to work.
> Attached is a patch for converting 4.9.2 to todays svn.
> First, reverse previous patch (same command as before but add '-R')
> or reinstall 4.9.2, then patch using
>   patch /Applications/ScidvsMac.app/Contents/MacOS/scid <svn.patch
>
>
> OS X has very nasty TCL and TK bugs, and Apple show no inclination to
> provide even one paid dev to fix
> this complicated and important software. That is why we include our
> own TCL with scidvspc
> and in future may have to link TCL to XQuartz instead of the more
> attractive carbon framework.
>
> Anyway, i might not reply anymore to this thread. Hope it works.
>
> You can always install svn,  XCode, and then checkout svn and use
> "make mac" and "make mac_install_gui"
> to keep up with most recent changes.
>
> Steve
>

Re: [Scidvspc-users] Regarding Scid Vs Mac shortkey for choosing Variation

[Steve A <ste...@gm...>]

Ok - i was wrong, and you need the current version for this to work.
Attached is a patch for converting 4.9.2 to todays svn.
First, reverse previous patch (same command as before but add '-R')
or reinstall 4.9.2, then patch using
  patch /Applications/ScidvsMac.app/Contents/MacOS/scid <svn.patch


OS X has very nasty TCL and TK bugs, and Apple show no inclination to
provide even one paid dev to fix
this complicated and important software. That is why we include our
own TCL with scidvspc
and in future may have to link TCL to XQuartz instead of the more
attractive carbon framework.

Anyway, i might not reply anymore to this thread. Hope it works.

You can always install svn,  XCode, and then checkout svn and use
"make mac" and "make mac_install_gui"
to keep up with most recent changes.

Steve

Re: [Scidvspc-users] Regarding Scid Vs Mac shortkey for choosing Variation

[Arun K. <aru...@gm...>]

Here are the logs:

 bash-3.2$ patch /Applications/ScidvsMac.app/Contents/MacOS/scid <
osx_focus_tweak.patch
patching file /Applications/ScidvsMac.app/Contents/MacOS/scid
Hunk #1 succeeded at 118341 (offset 117846 lines).
Hunk #2 succeeded at 118409 (offset 117846 lines).
Hunk #3 succeeded at 118444 (offset 117846 lines).



On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 8:51 PM, Arun Kumar <aru...@gm...> wrote:

> Hi Steve,
>
> Thanks. I ran the command, but before that would want me copy the file
> that you attached somewhere? I copied it to the same location where "scid"
> was present (i.e. under /APplications/ScidvsMac.app...etc) and then ran the
> command. The logs said the patch application was successful and indeed it
> did work too, when i click "v+varNumber". However, it loses the keyboard
> context. I need to have to click back on the moves or the game window to
> resume. I see that, as per your email that is exactly what you tried to
> tweak. But why isn't that working for me?
>
> Thanks and regards,
> Arun
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 7:49 PM, Steve A <ste...@gm...> wrote:
>
>> Messing around with patches isn't especially easy, and 'patch' may not
>> even be installed, but you can try
>>
>>   patch /Applications/ScidvsMac.app/Contents/MacOS/scid <
>> osx_focus_tweak.patch
>>
>> or look online for 'patch' tutorials. It is an ugly, but handy skill to
>> have.
>>
>> S.A.
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 10:55 PM, Arun Kumar <aru...@gm...>
>> wrote:
>> > Hi Steve,
>> >
>> > Thanks much for this. But how do I install the given patch? Haven't done
>> > this before. Though got a good idea of patch building etc, in this open
>> > source context am not very sure. Any instructions on how to apply the
>> patch?
>> >
>> > Thanks and regards,
>> > Arun
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 6:15 AM, Steve A <ste...@gm...> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Also, the variation window can be called up without setting the
>> >> Option->Moves->ShowVarWindow.
>> >>
>> >> This is done by pressing the 'v' key , and then pressing '1' for var 1,
>> >> etc.
>> >>
>> >> I have just tested this on OS X and done some tweaking and a svn commit
>> >> to try and avoid losing keyboard focus following this event (though
>> docked
>> >> mode focus issues are a hassle).
>> >> Patch is also attached.
>> >>
>> >> Another nice trick is to press the ">V" button on the main board, and a
>> >> pop-up of all vars will be displayed
>> >>
>> >> S.
>> >>
>> >
>>
>
>

Re: [Scidvspc-users] Regarding Scid Vs Mac shortkey for choosing Variation

[Arun K. <aru...@gm...>]

Hi Steve,

Thanks. I ran the command, but before that would want me copy the file that
you attached somewhere? I copied it to the same location where "scid" was
present (i.e. under /APplications/ScidvsMac.app...etc) and then ran the
command. The logs said the patch application was successful and indeed it
did work too, when i click "v+varNumber". However, it loses the keyboard
context. I need to have to click back on the moves or the game window to
resume. I see that, as per your email that is exactly what you tried to
tweak. But why isn't that working for me?

Thanks and regards,
Arun



On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 7:49 PM, Steve A <ste...@gm...> wrote:

> Messing around with patches isn't especially easy, and 'patch' may not
> even be installed, but you can try
>
>   patch /Applications/ScidvsMac.app/Contents/MacOS/scid <
> osx_focus_tweak.patch
>
> or look online for 'patch' tutorials. It is an ugly, but handy skill to
> have.
>
> S.A.
>
> On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 10:55 PM, Arun Kumar <aru...@gm...>
> wrote:
> > Hi Steve,
> >
> > Thanks much for this. But how do I install the given patch? Haven't done
> > this before. Though got a good idea of patch building etc, in this open
> > source context am not very sure. Any instructions on how to apply the
> patch?
> >
> > Thanks and regards,
> > Arun
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 6:15 AM, Steve A <ste...@gm...> wrote:
> >>
> >> Also, the variation window can be called up without setting the
> >> Option->Moves->ShowVarWindow.
> >>
> >> This is done by pressing the 'v' key , and then pressing '1' for var 1,
> >> etc.
> >>
> >> I have just tested this on OS X and done some tweaking and a svn commit
> >> to try and avoid losing keyboard focus following this event (though
> docked
> >> mode focus issues are a hassle).
> >> Patch is also attached.
> >>
> >> Another nice trick is to press the ">V" button on the main board, and a
> >> pop-up of all vars will be displayed
> >>
> >> S.
> >>
> >
>

Re: [Scidvspc-users] Regarding Scid Vs Mac shortkey for choosing Variation

[Steve A <ste...@gm...>]

Messing around with patches isn't especially easy, and 'patch' may not
even be installed, but you can try

  patch /Applications/ScidvsMac.app/Contents/MacOS/scid < osx_focus_tweak.patch

or look online for 'patch' tutorials. It is an ugly, but handy skill to have.

S.A.

On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 10:55 PM, Arun Kumar <aru...@gm...> wrote:
> Hi Steve,
>
> Thanks much for this. But how do I install the given patch? Haven't done
> this before. Though got a good idea of patch building etc, in this open
> source context am not very sure. Any instructions on how to apply the patch?
>
> Thanks and regards,
> Arun
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 6:15 AM, Steve A <ste...@gm...> wrote:
>>
>> Also, the variation window can be called up without setting the
>> Option->Moves->ShowVarWindow.
>>
>> This is done by pressing the 'v' key , and then pressing '1' for var 1,
>> etc.
>>
>> I have just tested this on OS X and done some tweaking and a svn commit
>> to try and avoid losing keyboard focus following this event (though docked
>> mode focus issues are a hassle).
>> Patch is also attached.
>>
>> Another nice trick is to press the ">V" button on the main board, and a
>> pop-up of all vars will be displayed
>>
>> S.
>>
>

Re: [Scidvspc-users] Regarding Scid Vs Mac shortkey for choosing Variation

[Arun K. <aru...@gm...>]

Hi Steve,

Thanks much for this. But how do I install the given patch? Haven't done
this before. Though got a good idea of patch building etc, in this open
source context am not very sure. Any instructions on how to apply the patch?

Thanks and regards,
Arun


On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 6:15 AM, Steve A <ste...@gm...> wrote:

> Also, the variation window can be called up without setting the
> Option->Moves->ShowVarWindow.
>
> This is done by pressing the 'v' key , and then pressing '1' for var 1,
> etc.
>
> I have just tested this on OS X and done some tweaking and a svn commit
> to try and avoid losing keyboard focus following this event (though docked
> mode focus issues are a hassle).
> Patch is also attached.
>
> Another nice trick is to press the ">V" button on the main board, and a
> pop-up of all vars will be displayed
>
> S.
>
>