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[Scidvspc-users] chess openings

[Klearchos-Angelos G. <ka...@gr...>]

How to watch the opening down of the chessboard ? i have deleted the
~/,scidvspc on linux and I don't know how to view openings
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Re: [Scidvspc-users] Bug in PGN-export with language not equal English

[Steve A <ste...@gm...>]

Hmmm....
The function of that button is to "raise all windows" and is mainly
used in non-docked mode,
The two rectangles dont quite look like windows, so maybe another icon
would be better.
S.

On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 6:27 AM, Igor Sosa Mayor
<jos...@gm...> wrote:
> Am Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 08:52:30PM +0100, Frank Wohlfahrt wrote:
>
>> Another question, although it's another issue definitely:
>> What is the functionality of the button right beside of the "rotate
>> board"-button in the main toolbar (looks like "copy"-button)?
>> Didn't find anything of this one in the help-menue. Is it possible to
>> create mouse-over-info's for those buttons in the main tool bar as well?
>
> yes, I also would be for this option... but Steven is against it. Maybe
> we can persuade him to change his mind... ;-(
>
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Re: [Scidvspc-users] A problem running Play...Tactical game

[Igor S. M. <jos...@gm...>]

Am Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 08:04:12PM +0000, COLIN TROTH wrote:
> Had further look at SCID videos...quite helpful. Tried to replay part
> of game having successfully cut and pasted a pgn game. Used play
> option 'tactical game' as shown via video, it comes back and says
> Phalanx and Toga not found?? Looking at help it suggest these are the
> necessary 'players' and suggests they have not been loaded properly?
> Do I need to download an engine as well has having down the
> database...

which OS are you using (windows, linux...)?


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Re: [Scidvspc-users] Bug in PGN-export with language not equal English

[Igor S. M. <jos...@gm...>]

Am Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 08:52:30PM +0100, Frank Wohlfahrt wrote:

> Another question, although it's another issue definitely:
> What is the functionality of the button right beside of the "rotate
> board"-button in the main toolbar (looks like "copy"-button)?
> Didn't find anything of this one in the help-menue. Is it possible to
> create mouse-over-info's for those buttons in the main tool bar as well?

yes, I also would be for this option... but Steven is against it. Maybe
we can persuade him to change his mind... ;-(

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[Scidvspc-users] A problem running Play...Tactical game

[COLIN T. <col...@bt...>]

Had further look at SCID videos...quite helpful. Tried to replay part of game having successfully cut and pasted a pgn game. Used play option 'tactical game' as shown via video, it comes back and says Phalanx and Toga not found?? Looking at help it suggest these are the necessary 'players' and suggests they have not been loaded properly? Do I need to download an engine as well has having down the database...

Colin Troth 

Re: [Scidvspc-users] Bug in PGN-export with language not equal English

[Frank W. <fr...@gm...>]

Thank you, Steve.

Now I noticed that the functionality
"Tools->Export Current Game->Export Game to PGN" works as
expected there already now. I will use that one meantime until new
version with that bug-fix is released - thanks again!

Another question, although it's another issue definitely:
What is the functionality of the button right beside of the "rotate
board"-button in the main toolbar (looks like "copy"-button)?
Didn't find anything of this one in the help-menue. Is it possible to
create mouse-over-info's for those buttons in the main tool bar as well?

Thanks again,
Frank



On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 10:16:02 +1000
Steve A <ste...@gm...> wrote:

>> Hmmm.... This is longstanding behaviour, but is probably undesirable,
>> and is now fixed in svn.
>> Windows users can make this change to scid.gui (add the two lines
>> with a '+') if they care to test.
>> 
>> cheers, Steven
>> 
>>        } else {
>>          ### This currently only saves a single game,
>>          ### ... possibily/easily overwriting a multiple game pgn
>> file S.A
>> +       setLanguageTemp E
>>         puts $tempfile \
>>             [sc_game pgn -width 75 -symbols $::pgn::symbolicNags \
>>             -indentVar $::pgn::indentVars -indentCom
>> $::pgn::indentComments \ -space $::pgn::moveNumberSpaces -format
>> plain -column $::pgn::columnFormat \
>>             -markCodes $::pgn::stripMarks -stripbraces 1]
>>         close $tempfile
>> +       setLanguageTemp $::language
>>          ::recentFiles::add $fname
>>          set ::initialDir(file) [file tail $fname]
>>          updateMenuState  

Re: [Scidvspc-users] Bug in PGN-export with language not equal English

[Steve A <ste...@gm...>]

Hmmm.... This is longstanding behaviour, but is probably undesirable,
and is now fixed in svn.
Windows users can make this change to scid.gui (add the two lines with
a '+') if they care to test.

cheers, Steven

       } else {
         ### This currently only saves a single game,
         ### ... possibily/easily overwriting a multiple game pgn file S.A
+       setLanguageTemp E
        puts $tempfile \
            [sc_game pgn -width 75 -symbols $::pgn::symbolicNags \
            -indentVar $::pgn::indentVars -indentCom $::pgn::indentComments \
            -space $::pgn::moveNumberSpaces -format plain -column
$::pgn::columnFormat \
            -markCodes $::pgn::stripMarks -stripbraces 1]
        close $tempfile
+       setLanguageTemp $::language
         ::recentFiles::add $fname
         set ::initialDir(file) [file tail $fname]
         updateMenuStates

On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 6:46 AM, Frank Wohlfahrt <fr...@gm...> wrote:
> Hi stevenaaus,
>
> thanks a lot for your great SCID-fork. Now playing chess makes fun on
> Linux as well.
>
> However, I think I found a nasty bug in the pgn export.
> I changed language to German: Therefore the notation also switched into
> german language ==> ok. But the pgn also gets saved that way and the
> file cannot opened any more, because that's not the pgn standard. :-(
>
> Example:
>
> A) English Language works perfect
> 1.) Open ScidvsPC
> 2.) play moves 1.e4 e5 2.Nc3 Bb4
> 3.) save as pgn (menue: file->save pgn) ==> ok
> 4.) open that file again ==> ok
>
> B) Bug in Language German (and maybe others as well)
> 1.) Open ScidvsPC
> 2.) play moves 1.e4 e5 2.Nc3 Bb4
> 3.) save as pgn (menue: file->save pgn) ==> file gets saved in "german"
> notation = 1.e4 e5 2.Sc3 Lb4
> 4.) ==> this file cannot be opened any more
>
> I'm working with the latest version 4.11.
> I don't know if this error crept in with that version or even existed
> in earlier versions.
>
> Could you check please?
>
> Thanks again for your great work here,
> Frank
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[Scidvspc-users] Bug in PGN-export with language not equal English

[Frank W. <fr...@gm...>]

Hi stevenaaus,

thanks a lot for your great SCID-fork. Now playing chess makes fun on
Linux as well.

However, I think I found a nasty bug in the pgn export.
I changed language to German: Therefore the notation also switched into
german language ==> ok. But the pgn also gets saved that way and the
file cannot opened any more, because that's not the pgn standard. :-(

Example:

A) English Language works perfect
1.) Open ScidvsPC
2.) play moves 1.e4 e5 2.Nc3 Bb4
3.) save as pgn (menue: file->save pgn) ==> ok
4.) open that file again ==> ok

B) Bug in Language German (and maybe others as well)
1.) Open ScidvsPC
2.) play moves 1.e4 e5 2.Nc3 Bb4
3.) save as pgn (menue: file->save pgn) ==> file gets saved in "german"
notation = 1.e4 e5 2.Sc3 Lb4
4.) ==> this file cannot be opened any more

I'm working with the latest version 4.11.
I don't know if this error crept in with that version or even existed
in earlier versions.

Could you check please?

Thanks again for your great work here,
Frank

Re: [Scidvspc-users] The arrows

[Steve A <ste...@gm...>]

The arrows in this pic are for variation and mainlines. To see them,
create a variation and go to the diverging move.

You can also draw arrows manually. See Help->Draw Arrows.

S.A.

On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 6:11 AM, Klearchos-Angelos Gkountras
<ka...@gr...> wrote:
> Hello ,
>
> Can someoone tell me how to put that arrows on databases that is in the
> picture [1]
>
> [1]
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[Scidvspc-users] The arrows

[Klearchos-Angelos G. <ka...@gr...>]

Hello ,

Can someoone tell me how to put that arrows on databases that is in the
picture [1]

[1]
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[Scidvspc-users] Extra ttk themes

[Steve A <ste...@gm...>]

The window docking feature is a themed tk (ttk::) feature, and you can
see the themes under Options->Theme

There cant be too many around, but I found a few themes here at tktable.
  http://tktable.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tktable/tile-themes/
(theme source download link)
  http://tktable.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tktable/tile-themes/?view=tar
They are probably for Linux only, but i'm not sure. Attached is a
screenshot from my box.

Installation may need lots of messing around, and quite possibly
compiling from source. I have uploaded my x64 tcl packages here
  http://sourceforge.net/projects/scidvspc/files/support%20files/ttk-themes.x64.tgz/download
move the 5 directories or so to /usr/local/lib (or /usr/lib or /lib64)
depending on your tcl install directory

Then load them using this hack, and look at Options->Theme after
restarting Scid.
--- tcl/start.tcl       (revision 1714)
+++ tcl/start.tcl       (working copy)
@@ -1655,7 +1655,12 @@
 set boardSize $newSize

 # Load theme
-ttk::style theme use $lookTheme
+catch {package require ttk::theme::tilegtk}
+catch {package require ttk::theme::tileqt}
+catch {package require ttk::theme::keramik}
+catch {package require ttk::theme::keramik_alt}
+catch {package require ttk::theme::plastik}
+catch {ttk::style theme use $lookTheme}

Lots of messing around, but interesting. And I couldnt get the
WinXP-Blue and Aquativo themes going, so have left them out of the
tarball.

S.

[Scidvspc-users] Adding chess fonts

[Cortman <co...@ub...>]

Hi, I have a quick question about adding new chess fonts to Scid vs. PC.
>From researching the mega-thread on Scid vs. PC on chess.com it appears
that this can be accomplished in Windows by editing the scid.gui file with
the appropriate base-64 strings. I'm running Linux Mint 15 and cannot find
a scid.gui file or anything pertaining to it in ~/.scidvspc. Where can I
find this file or its equivalent?

Thanks,

Cortman

Re: [Scidvspc-users] Saving series/combinations of search criteria

[Steve A <ste...@gm...>]

> I was thinking about opening repertoires recently. Chessbase appears to
> have a feature in which the user outlines his repertoire and can then
> easily search a database for any games in the repertoire. Obviously a
> Scid user can do this by searching a new database for each position one
> at a time. However, it would be nice to be able to outline a repertoire
> once and then be able to use it in searches easily going forward.
> Essentially, this would consist of the user doing a series or
> combination of searches on a database and then somehow saving those
> searches as a single search file that could be used later. In fact,
> there would be no reason why this would have to be limited to the issue
> of repertoires. I might have some very specific, complicated search that
> I often do involving ratings, years, material patterns etc. It would be
> nice to be able to create complicated searches and then save them so
> that they could be used later with just a few clicks. I see that Scid
> vs. PC already has such a thing as saving and loading searches but this
> only seems to be possible for one single search of a specific type (e.g.
> one general search). I am interested in combinations of searches using
> AND/OR options and combining different types of searches (position,
> general, material/pattern, moves). Is there currently any way to do
> something like this, and if not, would this be very hard to implement?
> Thanks.

I havent really thought about this too much, but a couple of things come
to mind.

It would be possible to concatenate saved searches into a single search file,
but i'm not sure if this is too helpful, or worth the
complexity/programming effort.
(Currently of course one may manually load a few searches back to back
and AND/OR them as one pleases.)

I'm also interested in learning/overhauling the EPD file feature properly.
This allows for quick access to different positions, but currently i'm
not very familiar with it. Perhaps using this feature is helpful when
studying one's repertoire.

Steven

[Scidvspc-users] Saving series/combinations of search criteria

[John G. <joh...@gm...>]

I was thinking about opening repertoires recently. Chessbase appears to 
have a feature in which the user outlines his repertoire and can then 
easily search a database for any games in the repertoire. Obviously a 
Scid user can do this by searching a new database for each position one 
at a time. However, it would be nice to be able to outline a repertoire 
once and then be able to use it in searches easily going forward. 
Essentially, this would consist of the user doing a series or 
combination of searches on a database and then somehow saving those 
searches as a single search file that could be used later. In fact, 
there would be no reason why this would have to be limited to the issue 
of repertoires. I might have some very specific, complicated search that 
I often do involving ratings, years, material patterns etc. It would be 
nice to be able to create complicated searches and then save them so 
that they could be used later with just a few clicks. I see that Scid 
vs. PC already has such a thing as saving and loading searches but this 
only seems to be possible for one single search of a specific type (e.g. 
one general search). I am interested in combinations of searches using 
AND/OR options and combining different types of searches (position, 
general, material/pattern, moves). Is there currently any way to do 
something like this, and if not, would this be very hard to implement? 
Thanks.

-John

[Scidvspc-users] Feature request

[Cortman <co...@ub...>]

I am using Scid vs. PC and enjoying it very much.
My feature request has to do with captured material- in the current version
of Scid vs. PC it is shown as chess pieces along the right side of the
board when "Toggle Material" is selected.
Unfortunately when more than 15 pieces have been captured the column gets
cut off at the top and bottom. Could we have these auto-resize so that they
always stay in view? In addition to or if that can't be done, just showing
a total of the value of captured pieces somewhere there would be extremely
handy as well.

Thanks,

Cortman

Re: [Scidvspc-users] Linux sound issues

[<gre...@gm...>]

Hi,

Download doesn't work ...

> I've rewritten some elements of the sound interface.
> 
> It seems to work better (but not perfectly) on both my linux systems,
> so people may like to check out subversion if their sound is buggy.
> 
>   https://sourceforge.net/p/scidvspc/code/HEAD/tarball
> 
> If it still doesnt work, pls send me the contents of the Help->Startup window.
> 
> Other minor changes in svn are - right clicking the game save toolbar
> iscon does a quick save,
> and the game result is now shown more prominently in the gameinfo area.

Re: [Scidvspc-users] Minor bug with F11 Fullscreen

[Alan W. <a.c...@gm...>]

F11 works as expected under Linux Mint.

On 12/28/2013 12:53 AM, Dale Hards wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> While playing around I've noticed a bug with F11 Fullscreen. Pressing 
> F11 does make it fullscreen but once its full, the top menu bar 
> doesn't work. Clicking on File for instance, just makes the File box 
> go into some kind of 3D relief effect but doesn't drop down the menu. 
> This means that no features can be accessed without keyboard 
> shortcuts, and if you don't know the command to go away from 
> fullscreen, you're stuck until you restart the program.
>
> Fairly minor for me as I don't need fullscreen but someone may be 
> affected by this. Has anyone else observed this issue?
>
> I'm on Ubuntu 12.04 by the way.
>
> Cheers
> Dale
>
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Re: [Scidvspc-users] Linux sound issues

[Steve A <ste...@gm...>]

I've rewritten some elements of the sound interface.

It seems to work better (but not perfectly) on both my linux systems,
so people may like to check out subversion if their sound is buggy.

  https://sourceforge.net/p/scidvspc/code/HEAD/tarball

If it still doesnt work, pls send me the contents of the Help->Startup window.

Other minor changes in svn are - right clicking the game save toolbar
iscon does a quick save,
and the game result is now shown more prominently in the gameinfo area.

Steve

[Scidvspc-users] Minor bug with F11 Fullscreen

[Dale H. <dal...@go...>]

Hi all,

While playing around I've noticed a bug with F11 Fullscreen. Pressing F11
does make it fullscreen but once its full, the top menu bar doesn't work.
Clicking on File for instance, just makes the File box go into some kind of
3D relief effect but doesn't drop down the menu. This means that no
features can be accessed without keyboard shortcuts, and if you don't know
the command to go away from fullscreen, you're stuck until you restart the
program.

Fairly minor for me as I don't need fullscreen but someone may be affected
by this. Has anyone else observed this issue?

I'm on Ubuntu 12.04 by the way.

Cheers
Dale

Re: [Scidvspc-users] Optimized Opening Database for Tree Window

[Steve A <ste...@gm...>]

I'm not super proffecient with Trees and Book .. but how they work is distinct.
Books have a weight, and trees have a frequency and score.
Books are of course much quicker, and most people want to make books
out of databases, not the other way around.

But of course, creating free quality databases and books is a great thing to do.

You can send me a screenshot of Hiarcs Chess Explorer window you
mention if you care to explain it more... though i cant be too
optimistic about changing these well established / defined features.

> Also, as I've mentioned to Steve, I'd like the option to always open that database as a tree on startup.

In subversion, mainline SCID has the option to automatically open
bases, but i cant agree with this feature Steve. It has several bugs
i've noticed, and on occaisons , only makes life harder. So i probably
won't adjust this beyond what it can do now. ... Bases can be opened
from the command line (or by an alias such as -
  alias scid="/usr/bin/scid $PATH/mybase $*"

and it is already possible to open the tree window also by default.

S.A.

[Scidvspc-users] Optimized Opening Database for Tree Window

[Steve S. <li...@da...>]

Hi,

I'd like to create or download an opening database to open in the Tree Window.

What I'd really like is to open the performance.bin opening book in the tree window.  That's the way the Hiarcs Chess Explorer works: the selected opening book automatically appears in the opening tree window - perfect.

I've been unable to find an comprehensive opening database in pgn or scid format.  So, perhaps I'll have to create one.  

My idea would be to export, from a large database, all positions that have been played 2 or more times by players rated greater than such and such.  Is there a way to do that?  Has anyone undertaken such an endeavour?

Also, as I've mentioned to Steve, I'd like the option to always open that database as a tree on startup.

Cheers,

Steve

[Scidvspc-users] 2 situation to fix on fics :).

[enrico t. <eto...@li...>]

Open fics connection then undock, then close it, then reopen it.
In my experience there is a "clock already set" crash message, the only 
way to reconnect is to close and reopen fics.

Get tell message from more than 1 person on fics, then press F9 several 
time every time you press F9 the tell name string is not cleaned and 
added ,but is always added.

i hope this report is correct.

ciao e grazie

P.S. i really like scidvspc!

[Scidvspc-users] Linux sound issues

[Steve A <ste...@gm...>]

Hmm...  made some hacks to the to the linux tcl sound package, Snack.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/scidvspc/files/support%20files/snack2.2.10.scidvspc.tgz/download

I also added startup and end sounds. to FICS.

I'm well sick of our crappy sound dependancy, but it now works
passably on my Fed14  system, which is something. Tested it on Mint 15
though, and it's still fairly broken there....

S.

[Scidvspc-users] beep when game start

[enrico t. <eto...@li...>]

I lose my opponents because I do not hear the beep at the beginning of 
the game, this determines rude behavior on my part, and a decrease of 
fun for everyone.
Please add a beep at the beginning of the game, if the sound is turned 
on for the game.

PLEASE: D

hello!

Re: [Scidvspc-users] Version 4.11

[Steve A <ste...@gm...>]

> I have installed and been working with version 4.11. I am really
> enjoying the new features and overall I think things look great. I did
> want to mention a couple of things. One problem I encountered has to do
> with the auto-annotation using depth instead of time. In games that are
> played out to mate, the engine sometimes stalls at a low depth when it
> has found a mate. I ran into this problem with Critter for example.
>
> A less significant issue is that the Configure Annotation window is now
> hard to fit on the screen vertically. I have had to reduce the regular
> font size to 8 in order to see the OK, Help, and Cancel buttons. I admit
> that this is the fault of people like me who keep suggesting new options
> ;) . Maybe it would be possible in the future to make this window wider
> horizontally.

Yes... I'll have to refine annotation some more. It's quite a popular feature.
There is also an issue about engines having analysis cached
from previous runs, that complicates testing.

Please email me games that cause problems.
, preferably using free engines such as Critter 1.6,
Ivanhoe, and Stockfish.

S.