scidvspc-users

[Scidvspc-users] Version 4.11

[John G. <joh...@gm...>]

I have installed and been working with version 4.11. I am really 
enjoying the new features and overall I think things look great. I did 
want to mention a couple of things. One problem I encountered has to do 
with the auto-annotation using depth instead of time. In games that are 
played out to mate, the engine sometimes stalls at a low depth when it 
has found a mate. I ran into this problem with Critter for example.

A less significant issue is that the Configure Annotation window is now 
hard to fit on the screen vertically. I have had to reduce the regular 
font size to 8 in order to see the OK, Help, and Cancel buttons. I admit 
that this is the fault of people like me who keep suggesting new options 
;) . Maybe it would be possible in the future to make this window wider 
horizontally.

-John

Re: [Scidvspc-users] suggestion - separate/different time controls

[Igor S. M. <jos...@gm...>]

Am Wed, Dec 04, 2013 at 06:54:29AM -0700, Jeff Alter wrote:
> would be nice to have 1st, 2nd, 3rd time control ability (e.g. 40 moves in
> 40 minutes, then 40 moves in one hour, then rest of moves in one hour,
> etc.).  Aquarium has these features if interested.

for some strange reason the free/open-source engines (phalanx, gnuchess,
stockfish...) do not seem to have this feature... Or am I wrong?

[Scidvspc-users] suggestion - separate/different time controls

[Jeff A. <jep...@gm...>]

A nice feature would be to have the option to set separate time controls for
computer vs computer (e.g. 5 minutes versus 10 minutes). Additionally it
would be nice to have 1st, 2nd, 3rd time control ability (e.g. 40 moves in
40 minutes, then 40 moves in one hour, then rest of moves in one hour,
etc.).  Aquarium has these features if interested.

 

Jeff  

 

 

Re: [Scidvspc-users] 4.11 release candidate

[Ralph M. <ral...@ou...>]

> > 4.11 RC works well for me, but I've found one issue: When deleting a game,
> > and pressing "Compact" from the game list, a dialog appears confirming
> > deletion. However, when I re-open the DB the game is still there! I have to
> > delete & compact a second time for the game to really be removed.
> 
> Is it 100% reprodicible ? Can anyone else confirm this ?
> I've never seen this issue on any other platform.
I tried to reproduce this earlier & was unable to do so. I'm not going crazy though, this definitely happened!
> > Something else I've noticed is that, at least in the Win64 version, support
> > for TrueType fonts has been disabled. This is a problem for me because when
> > I run Scid-vs-PC in fullscreen mode at 1920x1200 the pieces look very
> > blurry. TTFs would probably look better at such high resolutions, no?
> 
> Do you mean that there is only 3 piece sets available in the
> Options->Chessboard/pieces window ? If so, this is due to failing to
> load
> the TkImg package. Can you confirm that it fails to load from looking
> at the Startup window (Help->Startup).
> Also , i have a hunch that if you have ActiveState Tcl also installed,
> this can cause problems. Is this the case ?

Never mind: brain fart.
 		 	   		  

[Scidvspc-users] windows ver 4.11x64 - clocks down

[Jeff A. <jep...@gm...>]

Clocks do not display time in Win 4.11x64.

 

Re: [Scidvspc-users] 4.11 release candidate

[Igor S. M. <jos...@gm...>]

Am Tue, Dec 03, 2013 at 09:49:49PM +1000, Steve Atkinson wrote:
> > 4.11 RC works well for me, but I've found one issue: When deleting a game,
> > and pressing "Compact" from the game list, a dialog appears confirming
> > deletion. However, when I re-open the DB the game is still there! I have to
> > delete & compact a second time for the game to really be removed.
> 
> Is it 100% reprodicible ? Can anyone else confirm this ?

no, I can't. On linux I don't see this problem.

Re: [Scidvspc-users] 4.11 release candidate

[Steve A <ste...@gm...>]

Hi Ralph,

Thanks for the feedback on the win 64 bit version.
I dont have a test machine for this one.

> 4.11 RC works well for me, but I've found one issue: When deleting a game,
> and pressing "Compact" from the game list, a dialog appears confirming
> deletion. However, when I re-open the DB the game is still there! I have to
> delete & compact a second time for the game to really be removed.

Is it 100% reprodicible ? Can anyone else confirm this ?
I've never seen this issue on any other platform.

> Something else I've noticed is that, at least in the Win64 version, support
> for TrueType fonts has been disabled. This is a problem for me because when
> I run Scid-vs-PC in fullscreen mode at 1920x1200 the pieces look very
> blurry. TTFs would probably look better at such high resolutions, no?

Do you mean that there is only 3 piece sets available in the
Options->Chessboard/pieces window ? If so, this is due to failing to
load
the TkImg package. Can you confirm that it fails to load from looking
at the Startup window (Help->Startup).
Also , i have a hunch that if you have ActiveState Tcl also installed,
this can cause problems. Is this the case ?

> Otherwise I just want to say THANK YOU and please keep up the good work.
> Scid-vs-PC is definitely the best free chess database app around!

Thanks - Steven

[Scidvspc-users] a little warning

[enrico t. <eto...@li...>]

When check messages from this group, sometime (too many times) i see an 
attachment file, but when i open the message, in thunderbird, the 
attachment symbol disappears, my suggest is run a good antivirus when 
you send messages for this list or when you get message from this list. 
Or find a better answer to the problem. :)

ciao e grazie

Re: [Scidvspc-users] 4.11 release candidate

[Ralph M. <ral...@ou...>]

> Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2013 21:51:51 +0100
> From: jos...@gm...
> To: sci...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Scidvspc-users] 4.11 release candidate
> 
> Am Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 05:53:15AM +1000, Steve A wrote:
> > Here are all the release candidates, and changelog.
> 
> thanks a lot! I'm using the svn version since a couple of days without
> problems. 

4.11 RC works well for me, but I've found one issue: When deleting a game, and pressing "Compact" from the game list, a dialog appears confirming deletion. However, when I re-open the DB the game is still there! I have to delete & compact a second time for the game to really be removed.
Something else I've noticed is that, at least in the Win64 version, support for TrueType fonts has been disabled. This is a problem for me because when I run Scid-vs-PC in fullscreen mode at 1920x1200 the pieces look very blurry. TTFs would probably look better at such high resolutions, no?
Otherwise I just want to say THANK YOU and please keep up the good work. Scid-vs-PC is definitely the best free chess database app around!
Cheers,
Ralph


 		 	   		  

Re: [Scidvspc-users] 4.11 release candidate

[Igor S. M. <jos...@gm...>]

Am Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 05:53:15AM +1000, Steve A wrote:
> Here are all the release candidates, and changelog.

thanks a lot! I'm using the svn version since a couple of days without
problems. 

Re: [Scidvspc-users] 4.11 release candidate

[Steve A <ste...@gm...>]

Correction -
source http://sourceforge.net/projects/scidvspc/files/source/scid_vs_pc-4.11.tgz/download

win32  http://sourceforge.net/projects/scidvspc/files/windows/Scid%20vs%20PC-4.11.exe/download

win64  https://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?group_id=263836&filename=Scid%20vs%20PC-4.11.x64.exe

mac    http://sourceforge.net/projects/scidvspc/files/mac/ScidvsMac-4.11.dmg/download

> Maximum board size is now twice as big
> Gamelist context menu (right-click). Less button crowding
> Annotation improvements: Depth based annotation, and cut-off features
> Dock a few extra windows (graphs, tablebase)
> Computer tournament stability/speed fix
> Locked Analysis Engines now show the locked position (not the working
> line) , and bug-fix the engine lock, which didnt work properly
> Add a low CPU priority check box to Engine Configuration window
> (especially important for MS Windows - where engines can kill GUI)
> Engine configuration window now repsonds to keystrokes to quickly find
> any engine
> Display "(altered)" in statusbar is game has been changed
> Fullscreen menu item (Options->Windows->Fullscreen)
> FICS tweaks, including over-riding takeback/abort request dialogs when game ends
> Remove some wasted space around FICS, main button bar, and other widgets
> New Greek translation
> Read custom chess pieces from  $HOME/.scidvspc/pieces
> Docked tabs/menu refinements
> OS X - Clicking on URLs will open the link in a browser
> Add a command console to the start-up window
> Bug-fix: Fix main board rendering anomoly in docked mode with MS Windows
> Bug-fix: When tree is open, gamelist filter operations didn't work properly
> Bug-fix: Search in variations never matched positions at end-of-line
> Bug-fix: Opening Table favourites werent working properly
> In Export PGN dialog, add an option for "Space after Move Numbers"
> Keyboard short-cuts changes. Control-L (etc) no longer open/close, but
> open/raise
> Tweak Comment Editor and Player Info buttons

Re: [Scidvspc-users] 4.11 release candidate

[Steve A <ste...@gm...>]

Here are all the release candidates, and changelog.

source http://sourceforge.net/projects/scidvspc/files/source/scid_vs_pc-4.11.tgz/download
win32  http://sourceforge.net/projects/scidvspc/files/windows/Scid%20vs%20PC-4.11.exe/download
win64  https://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?group_id=263836&filename=Scid%20vs%20PC-4.11.x64.exe
mac    http://sourceforge.net/projects/scidvspc/files/mac/ScidvsMac-4.11.dmg/download

Maximum board size is now twice as big
Gamelist context menu (right-click). Less button crowding
Annotation improvements: Depth based annotation, and cut-off features
Dock a few extra windows (graphs, tablebase)
Computer tournament stability/speed fix
Locked Analysis Engines now show the locked position (not the working
line) , and bug-fix the engine lock, which didnt work properly
Add a low CPU priority check box to Engine Configuration window
(especially important for MS Windows - where engines can kill GUI)
Engine configuration window now repsonds to keystrokes to quickly find
any engine
Display "(altered)" in statusbar is game has been changed
Fullscreen menu item (Options->Windows->Fullscreen)
FICS tweaks, including over-riding takeback/abort request dialogs when game ends
Remove some wasted space around FICS, main button bar, and other widgets
New Greek translation
Read custom chess pieces from  $HOME/.scidvspc/pieces
Docked tabs/menu refinements
OS X - Clicking on URLs will open the link in a browser
Add a command console to the start-up window
Bug-fix: Fix main board rendering anomoly in docked mode with MS Windows
Bug-fix: When tree is open, gamelist filter operations didn't work properly
Bug-fix: Search in variations never matched positions at end-of-line
Bug-fix: Opening Table favourites werent working properly
In Export PGN dialog, add an option for "Space after Move Numbers"
Keyboard short-cuts changes. Control-L (etc) no longer open/close, but
open/raise
Tweak Comment Editor and Player Info buttons

Re: [Scidvspc-users] Looking for a list of kbd shortcuts

[John G. <joh...@gm...>]

On 11/27/2013 9:11 AM, Ralph Möritz wrote:
> Hi all,
> I've learned a few keyboard shortcuts over time, e.g. v-[0-9] to select a variation, Shift-<click> to highlight a square, Ctrl-<click>-<click> to draw an arrow, etc.
> I'd love to know what the keyboard shortcut is to clear board annotations but, more generally, am interested to know if someone has compiled a comprehensive list of keyboard shortcuts for Scid/Scid-vs-PC.
> Regards,
> Ralph
>
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This is the only such thing that I am aware of: 
http://scidvspc.sourceforge.net/doc/ShortCuts.htm

[Scidvspc-users] Looking for a list of kbd shortcuts

[Ralph M. <ral...@ou...>]

Hi all,
I've learned a few keyboard shortcuts over time, e.g. v-[0-9] to select a variation, Shift-<click> to highlight a square, Ctrl-<click>-<click> to draw an arrow, etc.
I'd love to know what the keyboard shortcut is to clear board annotations but, more generally, am interested to know if someone has compiled a comprehensive list of keyboard shortcuts for Scid/Scid-vs-PC.
Regards,
Ralph
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Re: [Scidvspc-users] 4.11 release candidate

[Igor S. M. <jos...@gm...>]

Am Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 06:30:36PM +1000, Steve A wrote:
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/scidvspc/files/windows/Scid%20vs%20PC-4.11.exe/download
> 
> How does this release candidate look ?
> I'll wait till the weekend to make source tarballs, win64, and OS X binaries.

I'm trying the svn version on linux and it seems to work nicely. I will
report any issues.

Is someone responsible for the spanish translation? It needs as far as I
see to be polished a little bit. I could do it.

Thanks again for your work!


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[Scidvspc-users] 4.11 release candidate

[Steve A <ste...@gm...>]

http://sourceforge.net/projects/scidvspc/files/windows/Scid%20vs%20PC-4.11.exe/download

How does this release candidate look ?
I'll wait till the weekend to make source tarballs, win64, and OS X binaries.

Steven

Re: [Scidvspc-users] Suggested Feature: Auto-Analysis Cutoff Threshold

[Steve A <ste...@gm...>]

Yes - definitely a worthwhile feature.
I have added it to subversion and the windows release candidate

I think this code below is correct, but testing should tell.

Steve

+ spinbox $w.cutoff.spBlunder -width 4 -textvariable annotate(cutoff)
-from 3.0 -to 10.0 -increment .5

proc addAnnotation {} {
....
  set deltamove [expr {$score - $prevscore}]
  set isBlunder 0

+ ### Don't process if score above cut-off score,
+ # excepting for the case when score goes from -5 to +7 (eg)
+ if {abs($prevscore) < $annotate(cutoff) || (abs($deltamove) >
abs($score) && $score*$prevscore < 0)} {

### Calculate isBlunder


On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Igor Sosa Mayor
<jos...@gm...> wrote:
> Am Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 11:04:55AM -0500, John Gray wrote:
>> Hi all. I hope it isn't bad etiquette to make a feature request in one's
>> first post. I would really like to be able to specify a cutoff threshold
>> when doing automated game annotation with an engine. So in addition to
>> defining a blunder as a change in score (e.g. of 100 = 1 pawn), I would
>
> I find this a very useful feature request. I send a patch which could
> achieve this. Maybe it is not perfect. It is the first time I make
> something in tcl...
>
> Cheers.
>
> Igor
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Re: [Scidvspc-users] Suggested Feature:about blitz and fics

[enrico t. <eto...@li...>]

I need a sound that signals the beginning and the end game. The 
beginning because if you seek a match, and then change the window, the 
game changes so quiet, and if the opponent does not move immediately 
goes away.
The end 'cause sometimes I lose the time and I do not even notice.

when they start the last 30 seconds, the clock should be flashing.


When I go under 20 seconds compared to the opponent the watch should be 
blinking

Premove should be the first feature for blitz.

ciao e grazie! ^^

Re: [Scidvspc-users] Suggested Feature: Auto-Analysis Cutoff Threshold

[Igor S. M. <jos...@gm...>]

Am Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 11:04:55AM -0500, John Gray wrote:
> Hi all. I hope it isn't bad etiquette to make a feature request in one's 
> first post. I would really like to be able to specify a cutoff threshold 
> when doing automated game annotation with an engine. So in addition to 
> defining a blunder as a change in score (e.g. of 100 = 1 pawn), I would 

I find this a very useful feature request. I send a patch which could
achieve this. Maybe it is not perfect. It is the first time I make
something in tcl...

Cheers.

Igor

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[Scidvspc-users] Suggested Feature: Auto-Analysis Cutoff Threshold

[John G. <joh...@gm...>]

Hi all. I hope it isn't bad etiquette to make a feature request in one's 
first post. I would really like to be able to specify a cutoff threshold 
when doing automated game annotation with an engine. So in addition to 
defining a blunder as a change in score (e.g. of 100 = 1 pawn), I would 
like to be able to define a cutoff point beyond which the engine no 
longer comments (e.g. 500 = 5 pawns). In that case a change in score 
from +2 to +1 would receive a comment, but a change from +10 to +7 or -9 
to -6 would not. Of course a change from +6 to -6 should still receive a 
comment. This is the thing I miss most in Scid compared to commercial 
programs like Chess Assistant. Right now the auto game annotation is 
Scid clutters up the game score quite a bit and much of it involves the 
engine nitpicking over different ways of winning a won position. Anyway, 
my two cents. Thanks.

Re: [Scidvspc-users] blunder analysis

[Kasimir K. <po...@gm...>]

> Am Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 04:26:00AM +0100, Kasimir Knallkopf wrote:
> > > > [ ... blunder analysis ... ] Does scidvspc have a similar feature? 
> > > 
> > > of course. See:
> > > http://scidvspc.sourceforge.net/doc/Analysis.htm#Annotating
> > > 
> > 
> > Interesting, however, again it seems that this feature is not working properly. When I press the button, on some engine, the system analyzes a couple of moves and then quits. 
> 
> maybe have you marked the option `opening errors only'?


My bad. I pressed the icon that looked like the annotate button in the 'Analysis Engines (Ctrl+Shift+A)' menu. Both icons look alike.

Thanks for the help.

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Re: [Scidvspc-users] blunder analysis

[Igor S. M. <jos...@gm...>]

Am Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 04:26:00AM +0100, Kasimir Knallkopf wrote:
> > > [ ... blunder analysis ... ] Does scidvspc have a similar feature? 
> > 
> > of course. See:
> > http://scidvspc.sourceforge.net/doc/Analysis.htm#Annotating
> > 
> 
> Interesting, however, again it seems that this feature is not working properly. When I press the button, on some engine, the system analyzes a couple of moves and then quits. 

maybe have you marked the option `opening errors only'?

I'm working in linux and it works perfectly with different engines...

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Re: [Scidvspc-users] blunder analysis

[<gre...@gm...>]

This feature works without any problems here. Maybe your engine is faulty? I tried this with Shredder, Stockfish 3 & 4, Houdini 1.5, Rybka and with the engines delivered with scid vs pc. No probs at all.

> Gesendet: Dienstag, 26. November 2013 um 04:26 Uhr
> Von: "Kasimir Knallkopf" <po...@gm...>
> An: jos...@gm...
> Cc: sci...@li...
> Betreff: Re: [Scidvspc-users] blunder analysis
>
> > > [ ... blunder analysis ... ] Does scidvspc have a similar feature? 
> > 
> > of course. See:
> > http://scidvspc.sourceforge.net/doc/Analysis.htm#Annotating
> > 
> 
> Interesting, however, again it seems that this feature is not working properly. When I press the button, on some engine, the system analyzes a couple of moves and then quits. 
> 
> I now downloaded the windows version (4.10) and there this feature also doesn't work. I also tried a beta version on windows by simply replacing the scid and scid.gui in the directory. It still has that problem.
> 
> Any ideas what I am doing wrong?
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Re: [Scidvspc-users] blunder analysis

[Kasimir K. <po...@gm...>]

> > [ ... blunder analysis ... ] Does scidvspc have a similar feature? 
> 
> of course. See:
> http://scidvspc.sourceforge.net/doc/Analysis.htm#Annotating
> 

Interesting, however, again it seems that this feature is not working properly. When I press the button, on some engine, the system analyzes a couple of moves and then quits. 

I now downloaded the windows version (4.10) and there this feature also doesn't work. I also tried a beta version on windows by simply replacing the scid and scid.gui in the directory. It still has that problem.

Any ideas what I am doing wrong?
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Re: [Scidvspc-users] blunder analysis

[Igor S. M. <jos...@gm...>]

Am Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 03:55:23PM +0100, Kasimir Knallkopf wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> A feature I really liked in Fritz when I used it is that is provided blunder analysis. This is essentially using an engine to quickly run through the game and see whether any move caused a delta of greater than X in the evaluation.
> 
> Does scidvspc have a similar feature? It's essentially a search where you ask the engine to find a position that causes a drastic change in the evaluation.

of course. See:
http://scidvspc.sourceforge.net/doc/Analysis.htm#Annotating

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