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Re: [Scidvspc-users] Problems with using the Xfcc interface features

[Steve A <ste...@gm...>]

Sorry Peter,
I'm not sure anyone here knows much about these features.
There has been no changes since 4.14 either.
Maybe check your start-up window for any error messages ??
Particularly ,
- http package 2.7.13 found
- tDOM package not found, disabling internal Xfcc support

If no-one else can help, you could try talkchess, as
I think there are some users of XFCC there.
http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=2

The email window is not tested/working by anyone afaik and may get removed
at some stage.

cheers, Steven

On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 12:30 AM, Gregor Cramer <re...@gm...> wrote:

> Hi Steve,
>
> I've received this message, I don't know why.
>
> All the best,
> Gregor
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Peter <pet...@ic...>
> To: Gregor Cramer <re...@gm...>, sci...@li...
> Cc:
> Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:41:11 +0100
> Subject: Problems with using the Xfcc interface features
>
> Hallo Gregor,
> after several tries to run correspondence chess via the Xfcc interface in
> the scidvspc 4.14 I decided to ask for support.
> tdom, tcl Tkl version 8.6.1 is installed, system is ubuntu 14.04.
> In principle Scid is running without any problems, I like your program it
> is just great. Thanks a lot for this.
> I'm playing correspondence chess on server and via email.
> I try to received my games from server and got an error msg from scid.
> (using the internal Xfcc)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I'm not able to receive any moves. Same happened running Scid under
> Windows 7.
>
> The email function I also can not use.
>
> The error message said: can't read "CmailGameName": no such variable.
>
> Can help me ?
> Kind regards
>  Peter
>
>
>

[Scidvspc-users] Problems with using the Xfcc interface features

[Peter <pet...@ic...>]

Hallo Gregor,
after several tries to run correspondence chess via the Xfcc interface 
in the scidvspc 4.14 I decided to ask for support.
tdom, tcl Tkl version 8.6.1 is installed, system is ubuntu 14.04.
In principle Scid is running without any problems, I like your program 
it is just great. Thanks a lot for this.
I'm playing correspondence chess on server and via email.
I try to received my games from server and got an error msg from scid. 
(using the internal Xfcc)







I'm not able to receive any moves. Same happened running Scid under 
Windows 7.

The email function I also can not use.

The error message said: can't read "CmailGameName": no such variable.

Can help me ?
Kind regards
  Peter

Re: [Scidvspc-users] pgn error

[Klaus M. <kla...@gm...>]

Am Samstag, 10. Oktober 2015, 09:08:44 schrieb Alain LIETARD:
> Hello,
> I got many pgn files that scid vs pc is not able to read.
> I'm using windows 10
> I join one of these files.
> I don't understand what happen.
> Thank for your help

Hello Alain,

I have no problem with your pgn file with scidvspc 4.14 on windows 10. Do you 
have some error messages?

CU
	Klaus

[Scidvspc-users] pgn error

[Alain L. <ala...@gm...>]

Hello,
I got many pgn files that scid vs pc is not able to read.
I'm using windows 10
I join one of these files.
I don't understand what happen.
Thank for your help

Re: [Scidvspc-users] Chess960

[Ashwin S. <ash...@gm...>]

chess960 would be a great addition, and well, I'm really a beginner when 
it comes to software/programming and such (not to chess though), but if 
you need someone to do some testing I might be of some help. I might 
need a bit of guidance of how to report errors and basic stuff like 
that. Apparently Chess960 is really hard to implement, so good luck in 
your effort!

Ashwin



On 2015年09月27日 10:26, Steve A wrote:
> You're welcome to have a go Patrik.
>
> I have updated the chess960 patch in the "patches" directory
> with a few tweaks, including trying to set UCI_Chess960 properly.
>
> But getting this going is very tough. Like Gregor said - because
> Scid's main functionality is as a database, it is much more
> complicated than just getting the engines to work.
>
> Steve
>
> On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 2:31 AM, mrx <pat...@gm...> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I would be interested in giving it a try. Though the knowledge level of the
>> code base you hint is required to do this is far above mine.
>>
>> Thanks for your prompt answer!
>>
>> // Patrik
>>
>> Den 25 sep 2015 17:58 skrev "Gregor Cramer" <re...@gm...>:
>>> Hi Patrik,
>>>
>>>> What is the internal move generator used for?
>>> 1. Validation of the move on the board. The current validation does not
>>> allow
>>> to play Chess960 castlings (except if king is on e, and the rooks are on
>>> a,h).
>>>
>>> 2. Computation of move suggestions, this feature facilitates move input on
>>> the
>>> GUI board.
>>>
>>>> Is it just the castling rules that are missing from the internal move
>>>> generator?
>>> Yes, but this requires more changes, for example how a castling move will
>>> be
>>> stored inside the move structure, the current handling is not appropriate
>>> for
>>> Chess960. Furthermore the code of the board stuff has to be prepared for
>>> these
>>> castling rules.
>>>
>>>> What is the opening tree used for when i play against an engine?
>>> It depends on your decision if you want to use the opening tree or not.
>>> But
>>> implementing the Chess960 castling rules without preparing also the
>>> position
>>> search (for the opening tree) for Chess960 would be half-baked.
>>>
>>>> Concerning the castling rules, wouldn't the engine you play against tell
>>>> you if you try to make an invalid move? I cannot see why Scid vs. PC
>>>> would
>>>> have to implement the castling rules at all, if Scid vs. PC could handle
>>>> that response.
>>> Some engines are responding with an error message in case of an invalid
>>> move,
>>> some are silently ignoring such a move, and some are crashing. The
>>> behavior
>>> depends on the diligence of the developer.
>>>
>>> Scid cannot handle the response if the move is a real Chess960 castling,
>>> this
>>> move cannot be played on the board without support. Any response of the
>>> engine
>>> will be validated - without validation it would be possible to store
>>> corrupted
>>> games in the database if the engine is responding with an invalid move
>>> (the
>>> binary decoding of the moves in the database depends on the standard chess
>>> rules, an invalid move is corrupting the database) - and without support
>>> the
>>> validation of Chess960 castling fails.
>>>
>>>> Perhaps it would be a good start to just support Chess960 against an
>>>> engine
>>>> to begin with.
>>> This is not possible, the engine support requires that the move generator
>>> (and
>>> this implies also the internal board) is already prepared for Chess960.
>>> The
>>> effort for Chess960 support is high, and requires deep knowledge of the
>>> code
>>> base. The only easement is that the binary encoding of the moves in the
>>> database must not be changed, the current encoding for castling moves even
>>> works for Chess960. But a new database version number - this means .si5 -
>>> is
>>> unavoidable (if you store Chess960 games in .si4, then an older Scid
>>> version
>>> will have problems with such a database). Probably sometimes someone will
>>> do
>>> the implementation for Chess960!?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Gregor
>>
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Re: [Scidvspc-users] Chess960

[Steve A <ste...@gm...>]

You're welcome to have a go Patrik.

I have updated the chess960 patch in the "patches" directory
with a few tweaks, including trying to set UCI_Chess960 properly.

But getting this going is very tough. Like Gregor said - because
Scid's main functionality is as a database, it is much more
complicated than just getting the engines to work.

Steve

On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 2:31 AM, mrx <pat...@gm...> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I would be interested in giving it a try. Though the knowledge level of the
> code base you hint is required to do this is far above mine.
>
> Thanks for your prompt answer!
>
> // Patrik
>
> Den 25 sep 2015 17:58 skrev "Gregor Cramer" <re...@gm...>:
>>
>> Hi Patrik,
>>
>> > What is the internal move generator used for?
>>
>> 1. Validation of the move on the board. The current validation does not
>> allow
>> to play Chess960 castlings (except if king is on e, and the rooks are on
>> a,h).
>>
>> 2. Computation of move suggestions, this feature facilitates move input on
>> the
>> GUI board.
>>
>> > Is it just the castling rules that are missing from the internal move
>> > generator?
>>
>> Yes, but this requires more changes, for example how a castling move will
>> be
>> stored inside the move structure, the current handling is not appropriate
>> for
>> Chess960. Furthermore the code of the board stuff has to be prepared for
>> these
>> castling rules.
>>
>> > What is the opening tree used for when i play against an engine?
>>
>> It depends on your decision if you want to use the opening tree or not.
>> But
>> implementing the Chess960 castling rules without preparing also the
>> position
>> search (for the opening tree) for Chess960 would be half-baked.
>>
>> > Concerning the castling rules, wouldn't the engine you play against tell
>> > you if you try to make an invalid move? I cannot see why Scid vs. PC
>> > would
>> > have to implement the castling rules at all, if Scid vs. PC could handle
>> > that response.
>>
>> Some engines are responding with an error message in case of an invalid
>> move,
>> some are silently ignoring such a move, and some are crashing. The
>> behavior
>> depends on the diligence of the developer.
>>
>> Scid cannot handle the response if the move is a real Chess960 castling,
>> this
>> move cannot be played on the board without support. Any response of the
>> engine
>> will be validated - without validation it would be possible to store
>> corrupted
>> games in the database if the engine is responding with an invalid move
>> (the
>> binary decoding of the moves in the database depends on the standard chess
>> rules, an invalid move is corrupting the database) - and without support
>> the
>> validation of Chess960 castling fails.
>>
>> > Perhaps it would be a good start to just support Chess960 against an
>> > engine
>> > to begin with.
>>
>> This is not possible, the engine support requires that the move generator
>> (and
>> this implies also the internal board) is already prepared for Chess960.
>> The
>> effort for Chess960 support is high, and requires deep knowledge of the
>> code
>> base. The only easement is that the binary encoding of the moves in the
>> database must not be changed, the current encoding for castling moves even
>> works for Chess960. But a new database version number - this means .si5 -
>> is
>> unavoidable (if you store Chess960 games in .si4, then an older Scid
>> version
>> will have problems with such a database). Probably sometimes someone will
>> do
>> the implementation for Chess960!?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Gregor
>
>
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Re: [Scidvspc-users] Chess960

[mrx <pat...@gm...>]

Hi,

I would be interested in giving it a try. Though the knowledge level of the
code base you hint is required to do this is far above mine.

Thanks for your prompt answer!

// Patrik
Den 25 sep 2015 17:58 skrev "Gregor Cramer" <re...@gm...>:

> Hi Patrik,
>
> > What is the internal move generator used for?
>
> 1. Validation of the move on the board. The current validation does not
> allow
> to play Chess960 castlings (except if king is on e, and the rooks are on
> a,h).
>
> 2. Computation of move suggestions, this feature facilitates move input on
> the
> GUI board.
>
> > Is it just the castling rules that are missing from the internal move
> > generator?
>
> Yes, but this requires more changes, for example how a castling move will
> be
> stored inside the move structure, the current handling is not appropriate
> for
> Chess960. Furthermore the code of the board stuff has to be prepared for
> these
> castling rules.
>
> > What is the opening tree used for when i play against an engine?
>
> It depends on your decision if you want to use the opening tree or not. But
> implementing the Chess960 castling rules without preparing also the
> position
> search (for the opening tree) for Chess960 would be half-baked.
>
> > Concerning the castling rules, wouldn't the engine you play against tell
> > you if you try to make an invalid move? I cannot see why Scid vs. PC
> would
> > have to implement the castling rules at all, if Scid vs. PC could handle
> > that response.
>
> Some engines are responding with an error message in case of an invalid
> move,
> some are silently ignoring such a move, and some are crashing. The behavior
> depends on the diligence of the developer.
>
> Scid cannot handle the response if the move is a real Chess960 castling,
> this
> move cannot be played on the board without support. Any response of the
> engine
> will be validated - without validation it would be possible to store
> corrupted
> games in the database if the engine is responding with an invalid move (the
> binary decoding of the moves in the database depends on the standard chess
> rules, an invalid move is corrupting the database) - and without support
> the
> validation of Chess960 castling fails.
>
> > Perhaps it would be a good start to just support Chess960 against an
> engine
> > to begin with.
>
> This is not possible, the engine support requires that the move generator
> (and
> this implies also the internal board) is already prepared for Chess960. The
> effort for Chess960 support is high, and requires deep knowledge of the
> code
> base. The only easement is that the binary encoding of the moves in the
> database must not be changed, the current encoding for castling moves even
> works for Chess960. But a new database version number - this means .si5 -
> is
> unavoidable (if you store Chess960 games in .si4, then an older Scid
> version
> will have problems with such a database). Probably sometimes someone will
> do
> the implementation for Chess960!?
>
> Cheers,
> Gregor
>

Re: [Scidvspc-users] Chess960

[Gregor C. <re...@gm...>]

Hi Patrik,

> What is the internal move generator used for?

1. Validation of the move on the board. The current validation does not allow 
to play Chess960 castlings (except if king is on e, and the rooks are on a,h).

2. Computation of move suggestions, this feature facilitates move input on the 
GUI board.
 
> Is it just the castling rules that are missing from the internal move
> generator?

Yes, but this requires more changes, for example how a castling move will be 
stored inside the move structure, the current handling is not appropriate for 
Chess960. Furthermore the code of the board stuff has to be prepared for these 
castling rules.
 
> What is the opening tree used for when i play against an engine?

It depends on your decision if you want to use the opening tree or not. But 
implementing the Chess960 castling rules without preparing also the position 
search (for the opening tree) for Chess960 would be half-baked.

> Concerning the castling rules, wouldn't the engine you play against tell
> you if you try to make an invalid move? I cannot see why Scid vs. PC would
> have to implement the castling rules at all, if Scid vs. PC could handle
> that response.

Some engines are responding with an error message in case of an invalid move, 
some are silently ignoring such a move, and some are crashing. The behavior 
depends on the diligence of the developer.
 
Scid cannot handle the response if the move is a real Chess960 castling, this 
move cannot be played on the board without support. Any response of the engine 
will be validated - without validation it would be possible to store corrupted 
games in the database if the engine is responding with an invalid move (the 
binary decoding of the moves in the database depends on the standard chess 
rules, an invalid move is corrupting the database) - and without support the 
validation of Chess960 castling fails.

> Perhaps it would be a good start to just support Chess960 against an engine
> to begin with.

This is not possible, the engine support requires that the move generator (and 
this implies also the internal board) is already prepared for Chess960. The 
effort for Chess960 support is high, and requires deep knowledge of the code 
base. The only easement is that the binary encoding of the moves in the 
database must not be changed, the current encoding for castling moves even 
works for Chess960. But a new database version number - this means .si5 - is 
unavoidable (if you store Chess960 games in .si4, then an older Scid version 
will have problems with such a database). Probably sometimes someone will do 
the implementation for Chess960!?

Cheers,
Gregor

Re: [Scidvspc-users] Chess960

[mrx <pat...@gm...>]

Hi Gregor,

I'm not at all familiar with the code base yet so please do forgive my
questions if they seem unenlightened.

What is the internal move generator used for?

Is it just the castling rules that are missing from the internal move
generator?

What is the opening tree used for when i play against an engine?

Concerning the castling rules, wouldn't the engine you play against tell
you if you try to make an invalid move? I cannot see why Scid vs. PC would
have to implement the castling rules at all, if Scid vs. PC could handle
that response.

Of cource, it's a completely different ballgame if you play against someone
on a server. There might not be any sanity check on the moves.

Perhaps it would be a good start to just support Chess960 against an engine
to begin with.

// Patrik

On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Gregor Cramer <re...@gm...> wrote:

> Hi Patrik,
>
> > I would like to play Chess960 in Scid vs. PC but the feature is not
> worked
> > on as i understand it.
>
> Yes, Scid vs PC does not support Chess960:
>
> 1. The quite complicated castling rules are not implemented. The
> implementation of these rules has more impact than only the change of one
> function, the internal move generator has to be changed, and some more.
> This
> is not trivial, and requires a good knowledge of the code.
>
> 2. The opening tree is not prepared for Chess960 positions. Scid is using
> some
> acceleration data for fast position search, without this acceleration the
> opening tree couldn't be so fast, but the acceleration works only for
> standard
> chess positions. With Chess960 databases the opening tree is working, but
> quite slow.
>
> > I wanted to try this last night but the UCI_Chess960 UCI config option
> for
> > Stockfish was not presented in the UI so i couldn't tick the box. Any
> > special reason why this option is being neglected?
>
> The UCI_Chess960 configuration is not supported. Scid cannot handle
> Chess960
> castling, and this is the precondition for Chess960 engine support.
>
> Cheers,
> Gregor
>
>
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Re: [Scidvspc-users] Chess960

[Gregor C. <re...@gm...>]

Hi Patrik,

> I would like to play Chess960 in Scid vs. PC but the feature is not worked
> on as i understand it.

Yes, Scid vs PC does not support Chess960:

1. The quite complicated castling rules are not implemented. The 
implementation of these rules has more impact than only the change of one 
function, the internal move generator has to be changed, and some more. This 
is not trivial, and requires a good knowledge of the code.

2. The opening tree is not prepared for Chess960 positions. Scid is using some 
acceleration data for fast position search, without this acceleration the 
opening tree couldn't be so fast, but the acceleration works only for standard 
chess positions. With Chess960 databases the opening tree is working, but 
quite slow.

> I wanted to try this last night but the UCI_Chess960 UCI config option for
> Stockfish was not presented in the UI so i couldn't tick the box. Any
> special reason why this option is being neglected?

The UCI_Chess960 configuration is not supported. Scid cannot handle Chess960 
castling, and this is the precondition for Chess960 engine support.

Cheers,
Gregor

[Scidvspc-users] Chess960

[mrx <pat...@gm...>]

Hi,

I would like to play Chess960 in Scid vs. PC but the feature is not worked
on as i understand it. I'm trying to understand where the limitation really
is.

Given you have a chess engine that supports Chess960, like stockfish, and
you configure the engine to work in Chess960 mode. If you would present the
engine with a 'normal'/default start position. Wouldn't the Chess960
configured engine still adhere to all the chess rules including castling?
The 'normal' start position is one of several valid Chess960 start
positions, right?

I wanted to try this last night but the UCI_Chess960 UCI config option for
Stockfish was not presented in the UI so i couldn't tick the box. Any
special reason why this option is being neglected?

If i'm correct, I guess this would mean that as long as Scid vs. PC can
generate valid Chess960 start positions and the engine can be configured to
play according to Chess960 rules, no further changes to Scid vs. PC would
be necessary. We could play Chess960 in Scid vs. PC...


Am i missing something?

// Patrik

[Scidvspc-users] Playing vs. Engines

[Farshad S. <far...@gm...>]

Hi,

I set up an endgame position and then clicked Play Computer-UCI Engine and
chose Stockfish from the list. But after my first move, it was written
"Error -Missing Operand at _@_
in expression "-2397 - _@_"

Could you tell me what the problem is and how I can resolve it?

Thanks
Farshad

Re: [Scidvspc-users] Linux and EPD

[Darter B. <dar...@gm...>]

I forgot to mention I have a dual boot Windowz and Linux so when I need
Arena, I use Windoz.

2015-09-18 23:57 GMT+02:00 Gregor Cramer <re...@gm...>:

> On Friday 18 September 2015 22:55:21 Darter Bill wrote:
> >  I would like to have a report showing the numbers of positions solved
> > (best move) and the time (per position and total time) used to find all
> the
> > best moves. My goal is to test engines strength.
> >
> > In fact what Arena does under Windoz...
>
> Why not use Arena, works perfectly good with Wine (Windoze Emulator).
>
> Gregor
>
>
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Re: [Scidvspc-users] Linux and EPD

[Gregor C. <re...@gm...>]

On Friday 18 September 2015 22:55:21 Darter Bill wrote:
>  I would like to have a report showing the numbers of positions solved
> (best move) and the time (per position and total time) used to find all the
> best moves. My goal is to test engines strength.
> 
> In fact what Arena does under Windoz...

Why not use Arena, works perfectly good with Wine (Windoze Emulator).

Gregor

Re: [Scidvspc-users] bug report

[Gregor C. <re...@gm...>]

On Friday 18 September 2015 17:26:33 Michael G Thomas wrote:
> revision 2349 fails to build with assertions turned on in Makefile
> 
> Makefile:430: recipe for target 'src/charsetconverter.o' failed
> make: *** [src/charsetconverter.o] Error 1

See
http://sourceforge.net/p/scidvspc/mailman/scidvspc-users/thread/14385425.YugXUz4muR%40purple/#msg34332966,
this might help.

Gregor

[Scidvspc-users] bug report

[Michael G T. <tho...@gm...>]

revision 2349 fails to build with assertions turned on in Makefile

Makefile:430: recipe for target 'src/charsetconverter.o' failed
make: *** [src/charsetconverter.o] Error 1

[Scidvspc-users] Linux and EPD

[Darter B. <dar...@gm...>]

Hello Steven,

ScidvsPc can analyse several positions from a EPD file. When I open an EPD
file, a dialog box opens and I choose Tools ... Annotate positions. I set
the time per position and ScidvsPc automatically analyses all the
positions. Fine.

 I would like to have a report showing the numbers of positions solved
(best move) and the time (per position and total time) used to find all the
best moves. My goal is to test engines strength.

In fact what Arena does under Windoz...

Thank you.

Re: [Scidvspc-users] Setting the delete flag on all filtered games at once

[Steve A <ste...@gm...>]

The Maintenance window has comprehensive game delete/flag handling features.

S.

On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 7:36 AM, Jaes Elliot <sp...@al...> wrote:
> Hi everybody,
>
> Setting the delete flag for all visible games is easy by using Ctrl-a
> and Ctrl-Del.
>
> However is there a simple way to set the delete flag for all filtered
> games ?
>
> Thanks
>
>
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[Scidvspc-users] Setting the delete flag on all filtered games at once

[Jaes E. <sp...@al...>]

Hi everybody,

Setting the delete flag for all visible games is easy by using Ctrl-a 
and Ctrl-Del.

However is there a simple way to set the delete flag for all filtered 
games ?

Thanks

Re: [Scidvspc-users] Error compiling last svn version

[Igor S. M. <jos...@gm...>]

Gregor Cramer <re...@gm...> writes:

>> i can not compile the last version of scidvspc. I get the error you can
>> see in the attachment.
>> 
>> Any hint?
>
> Yes, the newer repository version requires a new Makefile, please do:
>
>    ./configure
>    make clean
>    make
>

yes! thanks a lot!

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Re: [Scidvspc-users] Error compiling last svn version

[Gregor C. <re...@gm...>]

> i can not compile the last version of scidvspc. I get the error you can
> see in the attachment.
> 
> Any hint?

Yes, the newer repository version requires a new Makefile, please do:

   ./configure
   make clean
   make

and now the installation will hopefully work.

Cheers,
Gregor

[Scidvspc-users] Error compiling last svn version

[Igor S. M. <jos...@gm...>]

Hi,

i can not compile the last version of scidvspc. I get the error you can
see in the attachment.

Any hint?

Many thanks in advance.

Re: [Scidvspc-users] C/CIF + Chess Assistant + Rybka Aquarium

[Gregor C. <re...@gm...>]

> > 1. Rybka Aquarium supports move markers like coloured arrows, rectangles,
> > filled rectangles, circles, and some more additional markers (also called
> > graphical annotation, see http://chessok.com/?p=23017 for screenshots). Who
> > can send me a PGN export file of Rybka Aquarium with such markers?
> 
> Do you need all of them? Besides of those standard symbols Aquarium supports
> lots of additional markers, marked areas, numbers, chars and some strange
> symbols like mushrooms(!), everything in different styles and colours.

Yes, I need all, but this does not mean all combinations. Normally the color
symbol, for example, is the same for all markers. I think that the following
can be sufficient:

  - all markers with the same color and style, for example red
  - one of the markers, for example the rectangle, with all colors
  - another marker, for example the arrow, with all styles

But I don't know how many styles Aquarium is supporting. Hopefully it's
not too time consuming to create such a game.

C/CIF will provide a library for the handling of all features in chess
applications, this is in general only possible with a full support of all these
features, and only the markers are still unknown for me (so far as I currently
know about other chess applications). Of course it might be possible that I will
decide not to support very special features like mushroom symbols, but the
decision will also depend on the encoding used in PGN export files of Aquarium.

Cheers,
Gregor

Re: [Scidvspc-users] C/CIF + Chess Assistant + Rybka Aquarium

[<gre...@gm...>]

> Gesendet: Samstag, 11. Juli 2015 um 18:09 Uhr
> Von: "Gregor Cramer" <re...@gm...>
> An: scidb-users <sci...@li...>, scid-users <sci...@li...>, 'scidvspc-users' <sci...@li...>
> Betreff: [Scidvspc-users] C/CIF + Chess Assistant + Rybka Aquarium
>
> I need some help for the completion of the C/CIF library (see
> ccif.sourceforge.net).
> 
> 1. Rybka Aquarium supports move markers like coloured arrows, rectangles,
> filled rectangles, circles, and some more additional markers (also called
> graphical annotation, see http://chessok.com/?p=23017 for screenshots). Who
> can send me a PGN export file of Rybka Aquarium with such markers?

Do you need all of them? Besides of those standard symbols Aquarium supports lots of additional markers, marked areas, numbers, chars and some strange symbols like mushrooms(!), everything in different styles and colours.

Cheers,
Andreas

[Scidvspc-users] C/CIF + Chess Assistant + Rybka Aquarium

[Gregor C. <re...@gm...>]

I need some help for the completion of the C/CIF library (see
ccif.sourceforge.net).

1. Rybka Aquarium supports move markers like coloured arrows, rectangles,
filled rectangles, circles, and some more additional markers (also called
graphical annotation, see http://chessok.com/?p=23017 for screenshots). Who
can send me a PGN export file of Rybka Aquarium with such markers?

2. Chess Assistant also supports move markers like coloured rectangles, and
more. I already know some aspects of the exported format, but I need specific
information about these markers for the completion:

    - green line (with 3 squares for example)
    - yellow char
    - blue text
    - red diamond
    - green plus
    - blue minus
    - red thick circle (filled?)
    - green thin circle

I need this information for full support of PGN. Currently I only know  the
exported PGN formats of ChessBase, Scid/ vs PC, and Scidb.

Cheers,
Gregor