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From: brett l. <bre...@gm...> - 2013-08-25 15:21:56
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Yep. Sourceforge rolled out a totally new managemenet UI. I think I've now got the permissions set right. Please validate and let me know if I need to poke it more. ---Brett. ---Brett. On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 11:07 AM, Martin Brumm <dr....@t-...>wrote: > Hi Chris, > > i cant post anything either or even access a ticket. Either sourceforge > screwed up, or permissions in the project need to be managed anew. > > Brett ? Stefan ? Erik ? > > Can you have a look at the sourceforge Project Administration for rails ? > > Thank you. > > Martin > > Am 25.08.2013 16:43, schrieb Chris Shaffer: > > SourceForge seems to have changed their interface. I'm logged in and > > looking at the bug tickets, but I can't find a button or tool to > > submit a new bug. Is there a permissions problem or is it a user > > error? > > > > -- > > Chris > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Introducing Performance Central, a new site from SourceForge and > AppDynamics. Performance Central is your source for news, insights, > analysis and resources for efficient Application Performance Management. > Visit us today! > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897511&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Rails-devel mailing list > Rai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > |
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From: Martin B. <dr....@t-...> - 2013-08-25 15:08:08
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Hi Chris, i cant post anything either or even access a ticket. Either sourceforge screwed up, or permissions in the project need to be managed anew. Brett ? Stefan ? Erik ? Can you have a look at the sourceforge Project Administration for rails ? Thank you. Martin Am 25.08.2013 16:43, schrieb Chris Shaffer: > SourceForge seems to have changed their interface. I'm logged in and > looking at the bug tickets, but I can't find a button or tool to > submit a new bug. Is there a permissions problem or is it a user > error? > > -- > Chris > > |
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From: Chris S. <chr...@gm...> - 2013-08-25 14:43:09
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SourceForge seems to have changed their interface. I'm logged in and looking at the bug tickets, but I can't find a button or tool to submit a new bug. Is there a permissions problem or is it a user error? -- Chris Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. |
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From: Martin B. <dr....@t-...> - 2013-08-24 21:28:19
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Am 24.08.2013 23:19, schrieb Michael Alexander: Hi Mike, i have a preliminary version in the latest 1880_specific committed. But it still has its flaws. Startround uses a different numeration, this is not yet carried over to the main StartCompany procedure. The StartCompany_procedure for the priceslot still needs adjustments also. If you want to give it a shot, great. I have prepared a build for the BGG-Guys to use with those caveats... Can be found at https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/29072620/rails-1.7.12_1880.zip As i dont have access to the release build mechanismn on sourceforge myself :) Regards, Martin P.s. in the archive of rails-devel theres a lot of nice information regarding the intended architecture by Brett, Stefan and Erik. > Martin, > > Are you working on the price slots? I was thinking about taking a > look at them, but I wouldn't want to step on stuff you've already written. > > Mike > > > On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Martin Brumm > <dr....@t-... <mailto:dr....@t-...>> wrote: > > Hi Michael, > > thanks again, i applied the patch to 1880_specific, though i > thought i had fixed the behaviour in the code already pushed. > > The second fix for StartCompany_1880 needs to be classified into > the category : "Ouch :)". > > Thanks for catching it. > > Regards, > Martin > |
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From: Michael A. <out...@gm...> - 2013-08-24 21:19:32
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Martin,
Are you working on the price slots? I was thinking about taking a look
at them, but I wouldn't want to step on stuff you've already written.
Mike
On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Martin Brumm
<dr....@t-...>wrote:
> Hi Michael,
>
> thanks again, i applied the patch to 1880_specific, though i thought i
> had fixed the behaviour in the code already pushed.
>
> The second fix for StartCompany_1880 needs to be classified into the
> category : "Ouch :)".
>
> Thanks for catching it.
>
> Regards,
> Martin
> Am 24.08.2013 19:55, schrieb Michael Alexander:
>
> Two more patches for 1880_specific. These patches fix the following
> problems:
>
> - During "long" auctions in the initial stock round, the player whose
> turn it is to bid next or pass can get messed up. For example:
>
> Player A bids $5
> Player B bids $10
> Player C bids $15
> Player D passes
> Player A passes
> Player B bids $20
> Player C bids $25
> Player D will now be incorrectly given a chance to bid again, and if he
> passes, the company will be awarded to Player C.
>
> - After the IG is purchased (giving ownership to the BCR), the player who
> should start the auction on the RC is calculated incorrectly.
>
> - If a player does not have $200, the game crashes if they try to open a
> company.
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Michael Alexander <
> out...@gm...> wrote:
>
>> Sounds good. Thank you for the quick response. I'll have a few more
>> shortly. :)
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 11:29 AM, brett lentz <bre...@gm...>wrote:
>>
>>> Patches like this work just fine. :)
>>>
>>> I'll get this applied later today.
>>>
>>> In general, we have two styles of contributions. We'll take patches
>>> like this and one of the committers will merge them, if approved. Second,
>>> if you'd like to do more substantial development, we're happy to grant
>>> commit access once we've seen a few patches from you.
>>>
>>> ---Brett.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 5:56 AM, Michael Alexander <
>>> out...@gm...> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Here is my patch to fix private company revenue in the 1880_specific
>>>> branch. (Does this work better in the future as an attachment?)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/data/1880/CompanyManager.xml b/data/1880/CompanyManager.xml
>>>> index ff26af7..5934325 100644
>>>> --- a/data/1880/CompanyManager.xml
>>>> +++ b/data/1880/CompanyManager.xml
>>>> @@ -91,7 +91,7 @@
>>>> </SpecialProperties>
>>>> </Company>
>>>> <Company name="JO" longname="Jeme Tien Yow Engineer Office"
>>>> type="Private"
>>>> - basePrice="70" revenue="20">
>>>> + basePrice="70" revenue="25">
>>>> <!-- SpecialProperties-->
>>>> <!-- SpecialProperty condition="ifOwnedByPlayer"
>>>> when="tileLayingStep"
>>>> class="rails.game.specific._1880.BuildingPermit"-->
>>>> @@ -99,7 +99,7 @@
>>>> <!-- -->/SpecialProperties-->
>>>> </Company>
>>>> <Company name="IG" longname="Imperial Qing Government"
>>>> type="Private"
>>>> - basePrice="160" revenue="20">
>>>> + basePrice="160" revenue="0">
>>>> <Info key="ComesWithPresidency" parm="BCR,20"/>
>>>> </Company>
>>>> <Company name="RC" longname="Rocket Company" type="Private"
>>>> basePrice="70"
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, Mike
>>>>
>>>>
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From: Martin B. <dr....@t-...> - 2013-08-24 19:36:45
|
Hi Michael, thanks again, i applied the patch to 1880_specific, though i thought i had fixed the behaviour in the code already pushed. The second fix for StartCompany_1880 needs to be classified into the category : "Ouch :)". Thanks for catching it. Regards, Martin Am 24.08.2013 19:55, schrieb Michael Alexander: > Two more patches for 1880_specific. These patches fix the following > problems: > > - During "long" auctions in the initial stock round, the player whose > turn it is to bid next or pass can get messed up. For example: > > Player A bids $5 > Player B bids $10 > Player C bids $15 > Player D passes > Player A passes > Player B bids $20 > Player C bids $25 > Player D will now be incorrectly given a chance to bid again, and if > he passes, the company will be awarded to Player C. > > - After the IG is purchased (giving ownership to the BCR), the player > who should start the auction on the RC is calculated incorrectly. > > - If a player does not have $200, the game crashes if they try to open > a company. > > > > > On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Michael Alexander > <out...@gm... <mailto:out...@gm...>> wrote: > > Sounds good. Thank you for the quick response. I'll have a few > more shortly. :) > > Mike > > > On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 11:29 AM, brett lentz > <bre...@gm... <mailto:bre...@gm...>> wrote: > > Patches like this work just fine. :) > > I'll get this applied later today. > > In general, we have two styles of contributions. We'll take > patches like this and one of the committers will merge them, > if approved. Second, if you'd like to do more substantial > development, we're happy to grant commit access once we've > seen a few patches from you. > > ---Brett. > > > On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 5:56 AM, Michael Alexander > <out...@gm... <mailto:out...@gm...>> wrote: > > Here is my patch to fix private company revenue in the > 1880_specific branch. (Does this work better in the > future as an attachment?) > > diff --git a/data/1880/CompanyManager.xml > b/data/1880/CompanyManager.xml > index ff26af7..5934325 100644 > --- a/data/1880/CompanyManager.xml > +++ b/data/1880/CompanyManager.xml > @@ -91,7 +91,7 @@ > </SpecialProperties> > </Company> > <Company name="JO" longname="Jeme Tien Yow Engineer > Office" type="Private" > - basePrice="70" revenue="20"> > + basePrice="70" revenue="25"> > <!-- SpecialProperties--> > <!-- SpecialProperty condition="ifOwnedByPlayer" > when="tileLayingStep" > > class="rails.game.specific._1880.BuildingPermit"--> > @@ -99,7 +99,7 @@ > <!-- -->/SpecialProperties--> > </Company> > <Company name="IG" longname="Imperial Qing > Government" type="Private" > - basePrice="160" revenue="20"> > + basePrice="160" revenue="0"> > <Info key="ComesWithPresidency" parm="BCR,20"/> > </Company> > <Company name="RC" longname="Rocket Company" > type="Private" basePrice="70" > > Thanks, Mike > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Introducing Performance Central, a new site from > SourceForge and > AppDynamics. Performance Central is your source for news, > insights, > analysis and resources for efficient Application > Performance Management. > Visit us today! > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897511&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Rails-devel mailing list > Rai...@li... > <mailto:Rai...@li...> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Introducing Performance Central, a new site from SourceForge and > AppDynamics. Performance Central is your source for news, > insights, > analysis and resources for efficient Application Performance > Management. > Visit us today! > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897511&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Rails-devel mailing list > Rai...@li... > <mailto:Rai...@li...> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Introducing Performance Central, a new site from SourceForge and > AppDynamics. Performance Central is your source for news, insights, > analysis and resources for efficient Application Performance Management. > Visit us today! > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897511&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > > > _______________________________________________ > Rails-devel mailing list > Rai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel |
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From: Martin B. <dr....@t-...> - 2013-08-24 19:08:38
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Am 24.08.2013 17:29, schrieb brett lentz: Hi Brett & Alexander, patch applied and committed to specific_1880. Thanks Alexander. > Patches like this work just fine. :) > > I'll get this applied later today. > > In general, we have two styles of contributions. We'll take patches > like this and one of the committers will merge them, if approved. > Second, if you'd like to do more substantial development, we're happy > to grant commit access once we've seen a few patches from you. > > ---Brett. > > > On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 5:56 AM, Michael Alexander > <out...@gm... <mailto:out...@gm...>> wrote: > > Here is my patch to fix private company revenue in the > 1880_specific branch. (Does this work better in the future as an > attachment?) > > diff --git a/data/1880/CompanyManager.xml > b/data/1880/CompanyManager.xml > index ff26af7..5934325 100644 > --- a/data/1880/CompanyManager.xml > +++ b/data/1880/CompanyManager.xml > @@ -91,7 +91,7 @@ > </SpecialProperties> > </Company> > <Company name="JO" longname="Jeme Tien Yow Engineer Office" > type="Private" > - basePrice="70" revenue="20"> > + basePrice="70" revenue="25"> > <!-- SpecialProperties--> > <!-- SpecialProperty condition="ifOwnedByPlayer" > when="tileLayingStep" > class="rails.game.specific._1880.BuildingPermit"--> > @@ -99,7 +99,7 @@ > <!-- -->/SpecialProperties--> > </Company> > <Company name="IG" longname="Imperial Qing Government" > type="Private" > - basePrice="160" revenue="20"> > + basePrice="160" revenue="0"> > <Info key="ComesWithPresidency" parm="BCR,20"/> > </Company> > <Company name="RC" longname="Rocket Company" type="Private" > basePrice="70" > > Thanks, Mike > |
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From: Michael A. <out...@gm...> - 2013-08-24 17:55:23
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diff --git a/rails/game/specific/_1880/StartRound_1880.java b/rails/game/specific/_1880/StartRound_1880.java
index 69d5fd5..a615c76 100644
--- a/rails/game/specific/_1880/StartRound_1880.java
+++ b/rails/game/specific/_1880/StartRound_1880.java
@@ -4,6 +4,8 @@
package rails.game.specific._1880;
import java.util.BitSet;
+import java.util.List;
+import java.util.Vector;
import rails.common.DisplayBuffer;
import rails.common.LocalText;
@@ -41,6 +43,8 @@
/** A company in need for a par price. */
PublicCompanyI companyNeedingPrice = null;
+
+ private final List<Player> playersPassed = new Vector<Player>();
/**
@@ -83,6 +87,7 @@
if (currentItem == null || currentItem.get() != item ) { // we haven't seen this item before
numPasses.set(0); // new round so cancel all previous passes !
playersActed.set(0);
+ playersPassed.clear();
currentItem.set(item);
item.setStatus(StartItem.BIDDABLE);
item.setStatus(StartItem.BUYABLE);
@@ -138,6 +143,7 @@
// Can't bid: Autopass
numPasses.add(1);
playersActed.add(1);
+ playersPassed.add(currentPlayer);
return false;
}
} else { // Item is not a private ! should be a major or minor in 1880 special rules apply.
@@ -262,6 +268,7 @@
auctionItemState.set(null);
numPasses.set(0);
playersActed.set(0);
+ playersPassed.clear();
setNextStartingPlayer();
return true;
} else {
@@ -303,6 +310,7 @@
numPasses.add(1);
playersActed.add(1);
+ playersPassed.add(player);
if (numPasses.intValue() >= numPlayers) {
// All players have passed.
@@ -318,6 +326,7 @@
Bank.format(startPacket.getFirstItem().getBasePrice()) ));
numPasses.set(0);
playersActed.set(0);
+ playersPassed.clear();
if (auctionItem.getBasePrice() == 0) {
assignItem((Player)startingPlayer.get(),
auctionItem, 0, 0);
@@ -327,6 +336,7 @@
} else {
numPasses.set(0);
playersActed.set(0);
+ playersPassed.clear();
finishRound();
}
@@ -346,6 +356,7 @@
auctionItemState.set(null);
numPasses.set(0);
playersActed.set(0);
+ playersPassed.clear();
setNextStartingPlayer();
return true;
} else {
@@ -371,26 +382,11 @@
}
private void setNextBiddingPlayer(StartItem item, int currentIndex) {
- boolean bidState = false;
for (int i = currentIndex + 1; i < currentIndex
+ gameManager.getNumberOfPlayers(); i++) {
- /*
- * Ok we need to make sure that every one has at least the chance to bid once.
- * We need to make sure that everyone that has passed cant bid again.
- * Unfortunately getBid() or hasBid() return 0 so they cant be of use here until the second bidding round !
- * Now we only need a status indicator how many people have acted already....
- */
- if (playersActed.intValue() == numPlayers) {
- bidState = item.hasBid(gameManager.getPlayerByIndex(i));
- if (bidState == true) {
- setCurrentPlayerIndex(i);
- break;
- } else {
- continue;
- }
- } else {
- setCurrentPlayerIndex(i);
- break;
+ if (playersPassed.contains(gameManager.getPlayerByIndex(i)) == false) {
+ setCurrentPlayerIndex(i);
+ break;
}
}
}
@@ -543,7 +539,15 @@
if (lastBid == 0) {
gameManager.setPriorityPlayer();
}
- setNextPlayer();
+
+ // If this item is the "IG" (BCR), then we are still in the "auction" portion
+ // of the stock round, and the next player is based on the current player
+ // (not the current player).
+ if (item == StartItem.getByName("IG")) {
+ setCurrentPlayerIndex(((Player) startingPlayer.get()).getIndex());
+ } else {
+ setNextPlayer();
+ }
auctionItemState.set(null);
numPasses.set(0); |
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From: Michael A. <out...@gm...> - 2013-08-24 16:06:32
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I'm in Marc's game. Which is what pointed me in this direction. :) The group from Marc's game has played it a handful of times face to face, and we really enjoy it, but we are a bit slow (taking maybe 8-9 hours to play) and we are kind of tired of driving home as the sun rises... Marc's game is being run in Rails 1.7.12, so it doesn't have a lot of the functionality that exists in the specific_1880 branch. We've had to fake some things and keep track of stock prices that weren't being done correctly. So far we've been able to play, but there's a lot of things being done "by hand" as well. The approach I'm taking so far is to run a parallel game to Marc's from the version in the specific_1880 branch to see how much more can be done there and what the bugs/gaps are. I'm still working through the first stock round, but at least I'm to the point where the privates are sold and the players are re-ordered. It looks like there's been a lot of work already put into 1880, so it would be a shame if we can't finish it off. Mike On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Chris Shaffer <chr...@gm...>wrote: > There are at least two groups on BoardGameGeek attempting to play 1880 > using Rails to help identify areas where patches are needed. Stephen > Yu is leading one at > > http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/970103/first-post-in-this-forum-1880-pbf-may-2013 > and Marc Manger has been commenting in the thread and asking questions > about the game he and some friends are playing. > > Stephen's group, which I am part of, is playing *very* slowly. We > started in May and are still in the initial stock round. Marc's group > is apparently playing with a bit more alacrity. > > -- > Chris > > Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. > > > On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 1:33 AM, Dr. Martin Brumm > <dr....@t-...> wrote: > > Hello Michael, > > > > Please prepare a Patch against the current Version. Send the Patch to > the List, i or another Developer with Access to the Depository will > Committee the Patch after reviewing it. > > > > This is the process umless Erik, Bret or Stefan add you to the Project > with the Necessary rights to Commit Directly. > > > > Regards Martin > > > > P.s. Welcome to Rails, as i am the so far only dev working directly on > 1880 i am more than pleased to find Support :) > > > > Von meinem iPad gesendet > > > > Am 24.08.2013 um 05:09 schrieb Michael Alexander < > out...@gm...>: > > > >> Greetings everyone! > >> > >> I am new to rails development, and am very interested in assisting to > make 1880 a full game. I have brought over the 1880_specific branch, and > would like to make a change to CompanyManager.xml in order to fix the > revenue of the JO and the IG. My commit of this change failed with a > permissions problem. > >> > >> What is my best approach to help with 1880? Am I allowed to make > changes? Is there a review process? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Michael Alexander > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> Introducing Performance Central, a new site from SourceForge and > >> AppDynamics. Performance Central is your source for news, insights, > >> analysis and resources for efficient Application Performance Management. > >> Visit us today! > >> > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897511&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Rails-devel mailing list > >> Rai...@li... > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Introducing Performance Central, a new site from SourceForge and > > AppDynamics. Performance Central is your source for news, insights, > > analysis and resources for efficient Application Performance Management. > > Visit us today! > > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897511&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails-devel mailing list > > Rai...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Introducing Performance Central, a new site from SourceForge and > AppDynamics. Performance Central is your source for news, insights, > analysis and resources for efficient Application Performance Management. > Visit us today! > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897511&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Rails-devel mailing list > Rai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > |
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From: Michael A. <out...@gm...> - 2013-08-24 15:59:23
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Sounds good. Thank you for the quick response. I'll have a few more shortly. :) Mike On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 11:29 AM, brett lentz <bre...@gm...> wrote: > Patches like this work just fine. :) > > I'll get this applied later today. > > In general, we have two styles of contributions. We'll take patches like > this and one of the committers will merge them, if approved. Second, if > you'd like to do more substantial development, we're happy to grant commit > access once we've seen a few patches from you. > > ---Brett. > > > On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 5:56 AM, Michael Alexander < > out...@gm...> wrote: > >> Here is my patch to fix private company revenue in the 1880_specific >> branch. (Does this work better in the future as an attachment?) >> >> diff --git a/data/1880/CompanyManager.xml b/data/1880/CompanyManager.xml >> index ff26af7..5934325 100644 >> --- a/data/1880/CompanyManager.xml >> +++ b/data/1880/CompanyManager.xml >> @@ -91,7 +91,7 @@ >> </SpecialProperties> >> </Company> >> <Company name="JO" longname="Jeme Tien Yow Engineer Office" >> type="Private" >> - basePrice="70" revenue="20"> >> + basePrice="70" revenue="25"> >> <!-- SpecialProperties--> >> <!-- SpecialProperty condition="ifOwnedByPlayer" >> when="tileLayingStep" >> class="rails.game.specific._1880.BuildingPermit"--> >> @@ -99,7 +99,7 @@ >> <!-- -->/SpecialProperties--> >> </Company> >> <Company name="IG" longname="Imperial Qing Government" type="Private" >> - basePrice="160" revenue="20"> >> + basePrice="160" revenue="0"> >> <Info key="ComesWithPresidency" parm="BCR,20"/> >> </Company> >> <Company name="RC" longname="Rocket Company" type="Private" >> basePrice="70" >> >> Thanks, Mike >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Introducing Performance Central, a new site from SourceForge and >> AppDynamics. Performance Central is your source for news, insights, >> analysis and resources for efficient Application Performance Management. >> Visit us today! >> >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897511&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >> _______________________________________________ >> Rails-devel mailing list >> Rai...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel >> >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Introducing Performance Central, a new site from SourceForge and > AppDynamics. Performance Central is your source for news, insights, > analysis and resources for efficient Application Performance Management. > Visit us today! > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897511&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Rails-devel mailing list > Rai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > |
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From: Chris S. <chr...@gm...> - 2013-08-24 15:48:03
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There are at least two groups on BoardGameGeek attempting to play 1880 using Rails to help identify areas where patches are needed. Stephen Yu is leading one at http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/970103/first-post-in-this-forum-1880-pbf-may-2013 and Marc Manger has been commenting in the thread and asking questions about the game he and some friends are playing. Stephen's group, which I am part of, is playing *very* slowly. We started in May and are still in the initial stock round. Marc's group is apparently playing with a bit more alacrity. -- Chris Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 1:33 AM, Dr. Martin Brumm <dr....@t-...> wrote: > Hello Michael, > > Please prepare a Patch against the current Version. Send the Patch to the List, i or another Developer with Access to the Depository will Committee the Patch after reviewing it. > > This is the process umless Erik, Bret or Stefan add you to the Project with the Necessary rights to Commit Directly. > > Regards Martin > > P.s. Welcome to Rails, as i am the so far only dev working directly on 1880 i am more than pleased to find Support :) > > Von meinem iPad gesendet > > Am 24.08.2013 um 05:09 schrieb Michael Alexander <out...@gm...>: > >> Greetings everyone! >> >> I am new to rails development, and am very interested in assisting to make 1880 a full game. I have brought over the 1880_specific branch, and would like to make a change to CompanyManager.xml in order to fix the revenue of the JO and the IG. My commit of this change failed with a permissions problem. >> >> What is my best approach to help with 1880? Am I allowed to make changes? Is there a review process? >> >> Thanks, >> Michael Alexander >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Introducing Performance Central, a new site from SourceForge and >> AppDynamics. Performance Central is your source for news, insights, >> analysis and resources for efficient Application Performance Management. >> Visit us today! >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897511&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >> _______________________________________________ >> Rails-devel mailing list >> Rai...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Introducing Performance Central, a new site from SourceForge and > AppDynamics. Performance Central is your source for news, insights, > analysis and resources for efficient Application Performance Management. > Visit us today! > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897511&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Rails-devel mailing list > Rai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel |
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From: brett l. <bre...@gm...> - 2013-08-24 15:29:56
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Patches like this work just fine. :) I'll get this applied later today. In general, we have two styles of contributions. We'll take patches like this and one of the committers will merge them, if approved. Second, if you'd like to do more substantial development, we're happy to grant commit access once we've seen a few patches from you. ---Brett. On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 5:56 AM, Michael Alexander <out...@gm...>wrote: > Here is my patch to fix private company revenue in the 1880_specific > branch. (Does this work better in the future as an attachment?) > > diff --git a/data/1880/CompanyManager.xml b/data/1880/CompanyManager.xml > index ff26af7..5934325 100644 > --- a/data/1880/CompanyManager.xml > +++ b/data/1880/CompanyManager.xml > @@ -91,7 +91,7 @@ > </SpecialProperties> > </Company> > <Company name="JO" longname="Jeme Tien Yow Engineer Office" > type="Private" > - basePrice="70" revenue="20"> > + basePrice="70" revenue="25"> > <!-- SpecialProperties--> > <!-- SpecialProperty condition="ifOwnedByPlayer" > when="tileLayingStep" > class="rails.game.specific._1880.BuildingPermit"--> > @@ -99,7 +99,7 @@ > <!-- -->/SpecialProperties--> > </Company> > <Company name="IG" longname="Imperial Qing Government" type="Private" > - basePrice="160" revenue="20"> > + basePrice="160" revenue="0"> > <Info key="ComesWithPresidency" parm="BCR,20"/> > </Company> > <Company name="RC" longname="Rocket Company" type="Private" > basePrice="70" > > Thanks, Mike > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Introducing Performance Central, a new site from SourceForge and > AppDynamics. Performance Central is your source for news, insights, > analysis and resources for efficient Application Performance Management. > Visit us today! > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897511&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Rails-devel mailing list > Rai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > |
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From: Michael A. <out...@gm...> - 2013-08-24 09:56:50
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Here is my patch to fix private company revenue in the 1880_specific
branch. (Does this work better in the future as an attachment?)
diff --git a/data/1880/CompanyManager.xml b/data/1880/CompanyManager.xml
index ff26af7..5934325 100644
--- a/data/1880/CompanyManager.xml
+++ b/data/1880/CompanyManager.xml
@@ -91,7 +91,7 @@
</SpecialProperties>
</Company>
<Company name="JO" longname="Jeme Tien Yow Engineer Office"
type="Private"
- basePrice="70" revenue="20">
+ basePrice="70" revenue="25">
<!-- SpecialProperties-->
<!-- SpecialProperty condition="ifOwnedByPlayer"
when="tileLayingStep"
class="rails.game.specific._1880.BuildingPermit"-->
@@ -99,7 +99,7 @@
<!-- -->/SpecialProperties-->
</Company>
<Company name="IG" longname="Imperial Qing Government" type="Private"
- basePrice="160" revenue="20">
+ basePrice="160" revenue="0">
<Info key="ComesWithPresidency" parm="BCR,20"/>
</Company>
<Company name="RC" longname="Rocket Company" type="Private"
basePrice="70"
Thanks, Mike
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From: Dr. M. B. <dr....@t-...> - 2013-08-24 08:37:38
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Hi Dave, Stärkung with the configuration XML-Files, creating the Map (XML) Would be the First step, from there On, One Would have to See if the Standard routines fit 18OE Or where we have to create new routines soecific for 18OE. Regards Martin Von meinem iPad gesendet Am 15.08.2013 um 23:30 schrieb Dave Mitton <da...@mi...>: > > and... 18OE: I kicked in, is anyone interested in supporting > it? What would it take? > |
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From: Dr. M. B. <dr....@t-...> - 2013-08-24 08:33:29
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Hello Michael, Please prepare a Patch against the current Version. Send the Patch to the List, i or another Developer with Access to the Depository will Committee the Patch after reviewing it. This is the process umless Erik, Bret or Stefan add you to the Project with the Necessary rights to Commit Directly. Regards Martin P.s. Welcome to Rails, as i am the so far only dev working directly on 1880 i am more than pleased to find Support :) Von meinem iPad gesendet Am 24.08.2013 um 05:09 schrieb Michael Alexander <out...@gm...>: > Greetings everyone! > > I am new to rails development, and am very interested in assisting to make 1880 a full game. I have brought over the 1880_specific branch, and would like to make a change to CompanyManager.xml in order to fix the revenue of the JO and the IG. My commit of this change failed with a permissions problem. > > What is my best approach to help with 1880? Am I allowed to make changes? Is there a review process? > > Thanks, > Michael Alexander > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Introducing Performance Central, a new site from SourceForge and > AppDynamics. Performance Central is your source for news, insights, > analysis and resources for efficient Application Performance Management. > Visit us today! > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897511&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Rails-devel mailing list > Rai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel |
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From: Michael A. <out...@gm...> - 2013-08-24 03:09:20
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Greetings everyone! I am new to rails development, and am very interested in assisting to make 1880 a full game. I have brought over the 1880_specific branch, and would like to make a change to CompanyManager.xml in order to fix the revenue of the JO and the IG. My commit of this change failed with a permissions problem. What is my best approach to help with 1880? Am I allowed to make changes? Is there a review process? Thanks, Michael Alexander |
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From: John D. G. <jd...@di...> - 2013-08-16 02:00:40
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Dave Mitton wrote: (I've snipped questions I can't speak to) > Another thought, might be a tablet.... is there any tablet on the > market that can run this. > (maybe other than an MS Surface Pro) Earlier this year my large screen monitor blew up, and I had to use an old 1024x768 VGA for a couple of months. The effect on Rails was horrible, because some of the windows are simply not smart enough to adjust themselves to a smaller screen. In particular, when playing 18EU, Rails insisted on displaying (in the map window) the entire list of active companies, with no way to scroll them off, which meant I could only view the actual map through a "letterbox slot" LESS THAN ONE HEX TALL. And it stayed that way the whole game, until the final merger round made most of the companies go away. I suggest that any effort to make Rails playable on tablet devices start with that. |
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From: Dave M. <da...@mi...> - 2013-08-15 23:47:22
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This list has gone quiet recently, and I have a few cycles of reflection..(not many but a few) I was wondering if Rails could be used as a hot seat moderator, well obviously it can, in a mode where the players made their turns, as time permitted, over the course of a convention. Maybe in conjunction with a video projector or large display. Another thought, might be a tablet.... is there any tablet on the market that can run this. (maybe other than an MS Surface Pro) and... 18OE: I kicked in, is anyone interested in supporting it? What would it take? Dave... musing as he is trying to preserve what is left of his VB3 1830 moderator program development environment, while the hardware is being scrapped. |
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From: Erik V. <eri...@xs...> - 2013-06-12 19:07:06
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> I could add a rotation attribute to the Tile tag in TileSet.xml which defines the > game specific attributes for each tile. This would allow to change the > standard rotation of each tile for each 18xx title. > As it is not too difficult it is possible to add that feature to the 1.x branch. > > This rotation would specify the orientation relative to the base rotation of > Rails. That solution was in my to-do list a long time ago, but I'm afraid I have since completely forgotten about this issue. Of course, this change will only fix the tile laying messages in the game report. The tile number positions in the tile pictures will remain as these are now, except when the idea to generate these pictures dynamically will ever bear fruit. > If I remember correctly what Erik said in a previous discussion the base > rotations of tiles in Rails were chosen arbitrarily. More or less so. The initial set was defined by Marco Rocci in his tile database, based on whatever principle he had (or had not) in his mind, and I must confess that I haven't taken the trouble to achieve any degree of consistency in my later additions. IIRC, it is 1830 (v1) that has different tile number positions on two copies of the same tile. Erik. |
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From: Oliver <oli...@gm...> - 2013-06-12 17:47:39
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This is great. I will also help. Thank you Oliver On Sat, 08 Jun 2013 12:25:41 +0200 Stefan Frey <ste...@we...> wrote: > I could add a rotation attribute to the Tile tag in TileSet.xml which > defines the game specific attributes for each tile. This would allow to > change the standard rotation of each tile for each 18xx title. > As it is not too difficult it is possible to add that feature to the 1.x > branch. > > This rotation would specify the orientation relative to the base > rotation of Rails. If I remember correctly what Erik said in a previous > discussion the base rotations of tiles in Rails were chosen arbitrarily. > > However we need some volunteers to add the according values for each > tile. But most likely there will be one of the 18xx moderators? > > The default orientation in Rails should be used in the Remaining Tiles > window, so it is easy to figure it out. In addition I will upload the > pdf of all Rail Tiles to the wiki. > > Stefan > > > > On 06/07/2013 06:46 PM, brett lentz wrote: > > I agree with Phil, I personally don't see the benefit of accounting for > > every printing difference of every game. However, if that's important > > enough to someone to write the code and generate the tile images, then > > it'll be supported. > > > > I believe in letting the community drive the direction of the project > > based on code submissions. So, if it's something somebody feels strongly > > about, by all means, send in a patch. > > > > ---Brett. > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Phil Davies <de...@gm... > > <mailto:de...@gm...>> wrote: > > > > Given that this isn't even consistent across similar printings of > > the same game, I cannot see how rails could possibly keep up with > > having to have the tile number the same as the printed version. > > It's certainly not worth the added cost of having 6 different > > number 8 tile images stored just so that rails can cater for the > > differing potential positions of the tile number. I'm not sure it > > is worth doing anything about given the cost to benefit ratio > > > > > > On 7 June 2013 15:59, Schnell, Volker <vol...@ar... > > <mailto:vol...@ar...>> wrote: > > > > Surely i can rotate a tile, but that is not the point. > > A gamemaster of a pbem game is not amused, if tile orientation > > is not > > identic between the game and the implentation in rails. > > I run a pbem-game with both. 18xx and rails with mailorder from each > > player. The tile orientation in rails is not identic with 18xx (i.e. > > tile 5 and 6 have the tilenumber not at a trackside). > > > > Volker Schnell > > > > Am 07.06.2013 04:06, schrieb Mike Bourke: > > > You just have to rotate the orientation. When laying the tile > > in rails, > > > click on it and it will rotate one hex face until it achieves the > > > orientation you want. > > > > > > Mike Bourke > > > Campaign Mastery http://www.campaignmastery.com > > > Co-author, Assassin's Amulet > > http://www.legaciescampaignsetting.com > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Schnell, Volker [mailto:vol...@ar... > > <mailto:vol...@ar...>] > > > Sent: Friday, 7 June 2013 6:02 AM > > > To: rai...@li... > > <mailto:rai...@li...> > > > Subject: Re: [Rails-devel] Tile orientation in 1835 > > > > > > Please have a look at tile 8 > > > rails: from south to northwest > > > 1835: from south to northeast. > > > If you lay the tile 8 for example 8/D18/SE, the tile goes > > from se to NE, in > > > rails from se to W. > > > totaly different tile laying. > > > this applies also to tile 5. > > > > > > Volker Schnell > > > > > > Am 06.06.2013 03:32, schrieb Mike Bourke: > > >> Those look right to me. But then I hadn't noticed any > > orientation > > >> differences in the first place. > > >> > > >> Mike Bourke > > >> Campaign Mastery http://www.campaignmastery.com Co-author, > > Assassin's > > >> Amulet http://www.legaciescampaignsetting.com > > >> > > >>> From: John David Galt [mailto:jd...@di... > > <mailto:jd...@di...>] > > >>> Sent: Thursday, 6 June 2013 11:06 AM > > >>> To: Development list for Rails: an 18xx game > > >>> Subject: Re: [Rails-devel] Tile orientation in 1835 I set > > up the > > >>> Blackwater Station page http://18xx.net/tiles/1835.htm to > > >> match my copy of the game. I believe it also agrees with the > > >> orientations Bill Stoll and Steve Thomas use in their PBEM > > 1835 games. > > >>> Can you tell us what is different between any of those four > > and your set? > > >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> -------- How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT > > departments: > > >> 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and > > operations 2. > > >> Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise > > services 3. A > > >> single system of record for all IT processes > > >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Rails-devel mailing list > > >> Rai...@li... > > <mailto:Rai...@li...> > > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > -- > > > Volker Schnell > > > email: vol...@ar... <mailto:vol...@ar...> > > > homepage: home.arcor.de <http://home.arcor.de>\volker_schnell > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > -- > > > How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: > > > 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and > > operations > > > 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services > > > 3. A single system of record for all IT processes > > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Rails-devel mailing list > > > Rai...@li... > > <mailto:Rai...@li...> > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > > > > > -- > > Volker Schnell > > email: vol...@ar... <mailto:vol...@ar...> > > homepage: home.arcor.de <http://home.arcor.de>\volker_schnell > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: > > 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and operations > > 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services > > 3. A single system of record for all IT processes > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails-devel mailing list > > Rai...@li... > > <mailto:Rai...@li...> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: > > 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and operations > > 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services > > 3. A single system of record for all IT processes > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails-devel mailing list > > Rai...@li... > > <mailto:Rai...@li...> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: > > 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and operations > > 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services > > 3. A single system of record for all IT processes > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails-devel mailing list > > Rai...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: > 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and operations > 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services > 3. A single system of record for all IT processes > http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j > _______________________________________________ > Rails-devel mailing list > Rai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel -- Oliver <oli...@gm...> |
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From: <vol...@ar...> - 2013-06-12 06:47:32
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Hi Stefan, that is a good solution and I would be a volunteer. Volker Schnell ----- Original Nachricht ---- Von: Stefan Frey <ste...@we...> An: "Development list for Rails: an 18xx game" <rai...@li...> Datum: 08.06.2013 12:25 Betreff: Re: [Rails-devel] Tile orientation in 1835 > I could add a rotation attribute to the Tile tag in TileSet.xml which > defines the game specific attributes for each tile. This would allow to > change the standard rotation of each tile for each 18xx title. > As it is not too difficult it is possible to add that feature to the 1.x > branch. > > This rotation would specify the orientation relative to the base > rotation of Rails. If I remember correctly what Erik said in a previous > discussion the base rotations of tiles in Rails were chosen arbitrarily. > > However we need some volunteers to add the according values for each > tile. But most likely there will be one of the 18xx moderators? > > The default orientation in Rails should be used in the Remaining Tiles > window, so it is easy to figure it out. In addition I will upload the > pdf of all Rail Tiles to the wiki. > > Stefan > > > > On 06/07/2013 06:46 PM, brett lentz wrote: > > I agree with Phil, I personally don't see the benefit of accounting for > > every printing difference of every game. However, if that's important > > enough to someone to write the code and generate the tile images, then > > it'll be supported. > > > > I believe in letting the community drive the direction of the project > > based on code submissions. So, if it's something somebody feels strongly > > about, by all means, send in a patch. > > > > ---Brett. > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Phil Davies <de...@gm... > > <mailto:de...@gm...>> wrote: > > > > Given that this isn't even consistent across similar printings of > > the same game, I cannot see how rails could possibly keep up with > > having to have the tile number the same as the printed version. > > It's certainly not worth the added cost of having 6 different > > number 8 tile images stored just so that rails can cater for the > > differing potential positions of the tile number. I'm not sure it > > is worth doing anything about given the cost to benefit ratio > > > > > > On 7 June 2013 15:59, Schnell, Volker <vol...@ar... > > <mailto:vol...@ar...>> wrote: > > > > Surely i can rotate a tile, but that is not the point. > > A gamemaster of a pbem game is not amused, if tile orientation > > is not > > identic between the game and the implentation in rails. > > I run a pbem-game with both. 18xx and rails with mailorder from > each > > player. The tile orientation in rails is not identic with 18xx > (i.e. > > tile 5 and 6 have the tilenumber not at a trackside). > > > > Volker Schnell > > > > Am 07.06.2013 04:06, schrieb Mike Bourke: > > > You just have to rotate the orientation. When laying the tile > > in rails, > > > click on it and it will rotate one hex face until it achieves > the > > > orientation you want. > > > > > > Mike Bourke > > > Campaign Mastery http://www.campaignmastery.com > > > Co-author, Assassin's Amulet > > http://www.legaciescampaignsetting.com > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Schnell, Volker [mailto:vol...@ar... > > <mailto:vol...@ar...>] > > > Sent: Friday, 7 June 2013 6:02 AM > > > To: rai...@li... > > <mailto:rai...@li...> > > > Subject: Re: [Rails-devel] Tile orientation in 1835 > > > > > > Please have a look at tile 8 > > > rails: from south to northwest > > > 1835: from south to northeast. > > > If you lay the tile 8 for example 8/D18/SE, the tile goes > > from se to NE, in > > > rails from se to W. > > > totaly different tile laying. > > > this applies also to tile 5. > > > > > > Volker Schnell > > > > > > Am 06.06.2013 03:32, schrieb Mike Bourke: > > >> Those look right to me. But then I hadn't noticed any > > orientation > > >> differences in the first place. > > >> > > >> Mike Bourke > > >> Campaign Mastery http://www.campaignmastery.com Co-author, > > Assassin's > > >> Amulet http://www.legaciescampaignsetting.com > > >> > > >>> From: John David Galt [mailto:jd...@di... > > <mailto:jd...@di...>] > > >>> Sent: Thursday, 6 June 2013 11:06 AM > > >>> To: Development list for Rails: an 18xx game > > >>> Subject: Re: [Rails-devel] Tile orientation in 1835 I set > > up the > > >>> Blackwater Station page http://18xx.net/tiles/1835.htm to > > >> match my copy of the game. I believe it also agrees with the > > >> orientations Bill Stoll and Steve Thomas use in their PBEM > > 1835 games. > > >>> Can you tell us what is different between any of those four > > and your set? > > >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> -------- How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT > > departments: > > >> 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and > > operations 2. > > >> Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise > > services 3. A > > >> single system of record for all IT processes > > >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Rails-devel mailing list > > >> Rai...@li... > > <mailto:Rai...@li...> > > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > -- > > > Volker Schnell > > > email: vol...@ar... > <mailto:vol...@ar...> > > > homepage: home.arcor.de <http://home.arcor.de>\volker_schnell > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > -- > > > How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: > > > 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and > > operations > > > 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise > services > > > 3. A single system of record for all IT processes > > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Rails-devel mailing list > > > Rai...@li... > > <mailto:Rai...@li...> > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > > > > > -- > > Volker Schnell > > email: vol...@ar... <mailto:vol...@ar...> > > homepage: home.arcor.de <http://home.arcor.de>\volker_schnell > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: > > 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and > operations > > 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services > > 3. A single system of record for all IT processes > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails-devel mailing list > > Rai...@li... > > <mailto:Rai...@li...> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: > > 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and operations > > 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services > > 3. A single system of record for all IT processes > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails-devel mailing list > > Rai...@li... > > <mailto:Rai...@li...> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: > > 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and operations > > 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services > > 3. A single system of record for all IT processes > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails-devel mailing list > > Rai...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: > 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and operations > 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services > 3. A single system of record for all IT processes > http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j > _______________________________________________ > Rails-devel mailing list > Rai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > -- Volker Schnell email: vol...@ar... homepage: home.arcor.de\volker_schnell |
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From: Chris S. <chr...@gm...> - 2013-06-08 15:44:51
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On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 3:25 AM, Stefan Frey <ste...@we...> wrote: > The default orientation in Rails should be used in the Remaining Tiles > window, so it is easy to figure it out. > What does this mean? Also, you wouldn't need all the game attributes to implement, if the attribute is missing, just use the default. -- Chris Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. |
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From: Stefan F. <ste...@we...> - 2013-06-08 10:25:49
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I could add a rotation attribute to the Tile tag in TileSet.xml which defines the game specific attributes for each tile. This would allow to change the standard rotation of each tile for each 18xx title. As it is not too difficult it is possible to add that feature to the 1.x branch. This rotation would specify the orientation relative to the base rotation of Rails. If I remember correctly what Erik said in a previous discussion the base rotations of tiles in Rails were chosen arbitrarily. However we need some volunteers to add the according values for each tile. But most likely there will be one of the 18xx moderators? The default orientation in Rails should be used in the Remaining Tiles window, so it is easy to figure it out. In addition I will upload the pdf of all Rail Tiles to the wiki. Stefan On 06/07/2013 06:46 PM, brett lentz wrote: > I agree with Phil, I personally don't see the benefit of accounting for > every printing difference of every game. However, if that's important > enough to someone to write the code and generate the tile images, then > it'll be supported. > > I believe in letting the community drive the direction of the project > based on code submissions. So, if it's something somebody feels strongly > about, by all means, send in a patch. > > ---Brett. > > > On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Phil Davies <de...@gm... > <mailto:de...@gm...>> wrote: > > Given that this isn't even consistent across similar printings of > the same game, I cannot see how rails could possibly keep up with > having to have the tile number the same as the printed version. > It's certainly not worth the added cost of having 6 different > number 8 tile images stored just so that rails can cater for the > differing potential positions of the tile number. I'm not sure it > is worth doing anything about given the cost to benefit ratio > > > On 7 June 2013 15:59, Schnell, Volker <vol...@ar... > <mailto:vol...@ar...>> wrote: > > Surely i can rotate a tile, but that is not the point. > A gamemaster of a pbem game is not amused, if tile orientation > is not > identic between the game and the implentation in rails. > I run a pbem-game with both. 18xx and rails with mailorder from each > player. The tile orientation in rails is not identic with 18xx (i.e. > tile 5 and 6 have the tilenumber not at a trackside). > > Volker Schnell > > Am 07.06.2013 04:06, schrieb Mike Bourke: > > You just have to rotate the orientation. When laying the tile > in rails, > > click on it and it will rotate one hex face until it achieves the > > orientation you want. > > > > Mike Bourke > > Campaign Mastery http://www.campaignmastery.com > > Co-author, Assassin's Amulet > http://www.legaciescampaignsetting.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Schnell, Volker [mailto:vol...@ar... > <mailto:vol...@ar...>] > > Sent: Friday, 7 June 2013 6:02 AM > > To: rai...@li... > <mailto:rai...@li...> > > Subject: Re: [Rails-devel] Tile orientation in 1835 > > > > Please have a look at tile 8 > > rails: from south to northwest > > 1835: from south to northeast. > > If you lay the tile 8 for example 8/D18/SE, the tile goes > from se to NE, in > > rails from se to W. > > totaly different tile laying. > > this applies also to tile 5. > > > > Volker Schnell > > > > Am 06.06.2013 03:32, schrieb Mike Bourke: > >> Those look right to me. But then I hadn't noticed any > orientation > >> differences in the first place. > >> > >> Mike Bourke > >> Campaign Mastery http://www.campaignmastery.com Co-author, > Assassin's > >> Amulet http://www.legaciescampaignsetting.com > >> > >>> From: John David Galt [mailto:jd...@di... > <mailto:jd...@di...>] > >>> Sent: Thursday, 6 June 2013 11:06 AM > >>> To: Development list for Rails: an 18xx game > >>> Subject: Re: [Rails-devel] Tile orientation in 1835 I set > up the > >>> Blackwater Station page http://18xx.net/tiles/1835.htm to > >> match my copy of the game. I believe it also agrees with the > >> orientations Bill Stoll and Steve Thomas use in their PBEM > 1835 games. > >>> Can you tell us what is different between any of those four > and your set? > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> -------- How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT > departments: > >> 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and > operations 2. > >> Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise > services 3. A > >> single system of record for all IT processes > >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Rails-devel mailing list > >> Rai...@li... > <mailto:Rai...@li...> > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > -- > > Volker Schnell > > email: vol...@ar... <mailto:vol...@ar...> > > homepage: home.arcor.de <http://home.arcor.de>\volker_schnell > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > > How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: > > 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and > operations > > 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services > > 3. A single system of record for all IT processes > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails-devel mailing list > > Rai...@li... > <mailto:Rai...@li...> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > > -- > Volker Schnell > email: vol...@ar... <mailto:vol...@ar...> > homepage: home.arcor.de <http://home.arcor.de>\volker_schnell > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: > 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and operations > 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services > 3. A single system of record for all IT processes > http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j > _______________________________________________ > Rails-devel mailing list > Rai...@li... > <mailto:Rai...@li...> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: > 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and operations > 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services > 3. A single system of record for all IT processes > http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j > _______________________________________________ > Rails-devel mailing list > Rai...@li... > <mailto:Rai...@li...> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: > 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and operations > 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services > 3. A single system of record for all IT processes > http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rails-devel mailing list > Rai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > |
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From: brett l. <bre...@gm...> - 2013-06-07 16:46:28
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I agree with Phil, I personally don't see the benefit of accounting for every printing difference of every game. However, if that's important enough to someone to write the code and generate the tile images, then it'll be supported. I believe in letting the community drive the direction of the project based on code submissions. So, if it's something somebody feels strongly about, by all means, send in a patch. ---Brett. On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Phil Davies <de...@gm...> wrote: > Given that this isn't even consistent across similar printings of the same > game, I cannot see how rails could possibly keep up with having to have the > tile number the same as the printed version. It's certainly not worth the > added cost of having 6 different number 8 tile images stored just so that > rails can cater for the differing potential positions of the tile number. > I'm not sure it is worth doing anything about given the cost to benefit > ratio > > > On 7 June 2013 15:59, Schnell, Volker <vol...@ar...> wrote: > >> Surely i can rotate a tile, but that is not the point. >> A gamemaster of a pbem game is not amused, if tile orientation is not >> identic between the game and the implentation in rails. >> I run a pbem-game with both. 18xx and rails with mailorder from each >> player. The tile orientation in rails is not identic with 18xx (i.e. >> tile 5 and 6 have the tilenumber not at a trackside). >> >> Volker Schnell >> >> Am 07.06.2013 04:06, schrieb Mike Bourke: >> > You just have to rotate the orientation. When laying the tile in rails, >> > click on it and it will rotate one hex face until it achieves the >> > orientation you want. >> > >> > Mike Bourke >> > Campaign Mastery http://www.campaignmastery.com >> > Co-author, Assassin's Amulet http://www.legaciescampaignsetting.com >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Schnell, Volker [mailto:vol...@ar...] >> > Sent: Friday, 7 June 2013 6:02 AM >> > To: rai...@li... >> > Subject: Re: [Rails-devel] Tile orientation in 1835 >> > >> > Please have a look at tile 8 >> > rails: from south to northwest >> > 1835: from south to northeast. >> > If you lay the tile 8 for example 8/D18/SE, the tile goes from se to >> NE, in >> > rails from se to W. >> > totaly different tile laying. >> > this applies also to tile 5. >> > >> > Volker Schnell >> > >> > Am 06.06.2013 03:32, schrieb Mike Bourke: >> >> Those look right to me. But then I hadn't noticed any orientation >> >> differences in the first place. >> >> >> >> Mike Bourke >> >> Campaign Mastery http://www.campaignmastery.com Co-author, Assassin's >> >> Amulet http://www.legaciescampaignsetting.com >> >> >> >>> From: John David Galt [mailto:jd...@di...] >> >>> Sent: Thursday, 6 June 2013 11:06 AM >> >>> To: Development list for Rails: an 18xx game >> >>> Subject: Re: [Rails-devel] Tile orientation in 1835 I set up the >> >>> Blackwater Station page http://18xx.net/tiles/1835.htm to >> >> match my copy of the game. I believe it also agrees with the >> >> orientations Bill Stoll and Steve Thomas use in their PBEM 1835 games. >> >>> Can you tell us what is different between any of those four and your >> set? >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> -------- How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: >> >> 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and operations 2. >> >> Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services 3. A >> >> single system of record for all IT processes >> >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Rails-devel mailing list >> >> Rai...@li... >> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel >> > -- >> > Volker Schnell >> > email: vol...@ar... >> > homepage: home.arcor.de\volker_schnell >> > >> > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > -- >> > How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: >> > 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and operations >> > 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services >> > 3. A single system of record for all IT processes >> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Rails-devel mailing list >> > Rai...@li... >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel >> > >> >> -- >> Volker Schnell >> email: vol...@ar... >> homepage: home.arcor.de\volker_schnell >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: >> 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and operations >> 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services >> 3. A single system of record for all IT processes >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j >> _______________________________________________ >> Rails-devel mailing list >> Rai...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel >> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: > 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and operations > 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services > 3. A single system of record for all IT processes > http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j > _______________________________________________ > Rails-devel mailing list > Rai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > |
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From: Phil D. <de...@gm...> - 2013-06-07 15:18:16
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Given that this isn't even consistent across similar printings of the same game, I cannot see how rails could possibly keep up with having to have the tile number the same as the printed version. It's certainly not worth the added cost of having 6 different number 8 tile images stored just so that rails can cater for the differing potential positions of the tile number. I'm not sure it is worth doing anything about given the cost to benefit ratio On 7 June 2013 15:59, Schnell, Volker <vol...@ar...> wrote: > Surely i can rotate a tile, but that is not the point. > A gamemaster of a pbem game is not amused, if tile orientation is not > identic between the game and the implentation in rails. > I run a pbem-game with both. 18xx and rails with mailorder from each > player. The tile orientation in rails is not identic with 18xx (i.e. > tile 5 and 6 have the tilenumber not at a trackside). > > Volker Schnell > > Am 07.06.2013 04:06, schrieb Mike Bourke: > > You just have to rotate the orientation. When laying the tile in rails, > > click on it and it will rotate one hex face until it achieves the > > orientation you want. > > > > Mike Bourke > > Campaign Mastery http://www.campaignmastery.com > > Co-author, Assassin's Amulet http://www.legaciescampaignsetting.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Schnell, Volker [mailto:vol...@ar...] > > Sent: Friday, 7 June 2013 6:02 AM > > To: rai...@li... > > Subject: Re: [Rails-devel] Tile orientation in 1835 > > > > Please have a look at tile 8 > > rails: from south to northwest > > 1835: from south to northeast. > > If you lay the tile 8 for example 8/D18/SE, the tile goes from se to NE, > in > > rails from se to W. > > totaly different tile laying. > > this applies also to tile 5. > > > > Volker Schnell > > > > Am 06.06.2013 03:32, schrieb Mike Bourke: > >> Those look right to me. But then I hadn't noticed any orientation > >> differences in the first place. > >> > >> Mike Bourke > >> Campaign Mastery http://www.campaignmastery.com Co-author, Assassin's > >> Amulet http://www.legaciescampaignsetting.com > >> > >>> From: John David Galt [mailto:jd...@di...] > >>> Sent: Thursday, 6 June 2013 11:06 AM > >>> To: Development list for Rails: an 18xx game > >>> Subject: Re: [Rails-devel] Tile orientation in 1835 I set up the > >>> Blackwater Station page http://18xx.net/tiles/1835.htm to > >> match my copy of the game. I believe it also agrees with the > >> orientations Bill Stoll and Steve Thomas use in their PBEM 1835 games. > >>> Can you tell us what is different between any of those four and your > set? > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> -------- How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: > >> 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and operations 2. > >> Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services 3. A > >> single system of record for all IT processes > >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Rails-devel mailing list > >> Rai...@li... > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > -- > > Volker Schnell > > email: vol...@ar... > > homepage: home.arcor.de\volker_schnell > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > > How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: > > 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and operations > > 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services > > 3. A single system of record for all IT processes > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails-devel mailing list > > Rai...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > > -- > Volker Schnell > email: vol...@ar... > homepage: home.arcor.de\volker_schnell > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: > 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and operations > 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services > 3. A single system of record for all IT processes > http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j > _______________________________________________ > Rails-devel mailing list > Rai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > |
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