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Re: [Rails-devel] Tile orientation in 1835

[Schnell, V. <vol...@ar...>]

Surely i can rotate a tile, but that is not the point.
A gamemaster of a pbem game  is not amused, if tile orientation is not 
identic between the game and the implentation in rails.
I run a pbem-game with both. 18xx and rails with mailorder from each 
player. The tile orientation in rails is not identic with 18xx (i.e. 
tile 5 and 6 have the tilenumber not at a trackside).

Volker Schnell

Am 07.06.2013 04:06, schrieb Mike Bourke:
> You just have to rotate the orientation. When laying the tile in rails,
> click on it and it will rotate one hex face until it achieves the
> orientation you want.
>
> Mike Bourke
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Schnell, Volker [mailto:vol...@ar...]
> Sent: Friday, 7 June 2013 6:02 AM
> To: rai...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Rails-devel] Tile orientation in 1835
>
> Please have a look at tile 8
> rails: from south to northwest
> 1835: from south to northeast.
> If you lay the tile 8 for example 8/D18/SE, the tile goes from se to NE, in
> rails from se to W.
> totaly different tile laying.
> this applies also to tile 5.
>
> Volker Schnell
>
> Am 06.06.2013 03:32, schrieb Mike Bourke:
>> Those look right to me. But then I hadn't noticed any orientation
>> differences in the first place.
>>
>> Mike Bourke
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>> Amulet http://www.legaciescampaignsetting.com
>>
>>> From: John David Galt [mailto:jd...@di...]
>>> Sent: Thursday, 6 June 2013 11:06 AM
>>> To: Development list for Rails: an 18xx game
>>> Subject: Re: [Rails-devel] Tile orientation in 1835 I set up the
>>> Blackwater Station page http://18xx.net/tiles/1835.htm to
>> match my copy of the game.  I believe it also agrees with the
>> orientations Bill Stoll and Steve Thomas use in their PBEM 1835 games.
>>> Can you tell us what is different between any of those four and your set?
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Re: [Rails-devel] Tile orientation in 1835

[Mike B. <com...@ip...>]

You just have to rotate the orientation. When laying the tile in rails,
click on it and it will rotate one hex face until it achieves the
orientation you want.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Schnell, Volker [mailto:vol...@ar...] 
Sent: Friday, 7 June 2013 6:02 AM
To: rai...@li...
Subject: Re: [Rails-devel] Tile orientation in 1835

Please have a look at tile 8
rails: from south to northwest
1835: from south to northeast.
If you lay the tile 8 for example 8/D18/SE, the tile goes from se to NE, in
rails from se to W.
totaly different tile laying.
this applies also to tile 5.

Volker Schnell

Am 06.06.2013 03:32, schrieb Mike Bourke:
> Those look right to me. But then I hadn't noticed any orientation 
> differences in the first place.
>
> Mike Bourke
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> Amulet http://www.legaciescampaignsetting.com
>
>> From: John David Galt [mailto:jd...@di...]
>> Sent: Thursday, 6 June 2013 11:06 AM
>> To: Development list for Rails: an 18xx game
>> Subject: Re: [Rails-devel] Tile orientation in 1835 I set up the 
>> Blackwater Station page http://18xx.net/tiles/1835.htm to
> match my copy of the game.  I believe it also agrees with the 
> orientations Bill Stoll and Steve Thomas use in their PBEM 1835 games.
>> Can you tell us what is different between any of those four and your set?
>
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Re: [Rails-devel] Tile orientation in 1835

[Schnell, V. <vol...@ar...>]

Please have a look at tile 8
rails: from south to northwest
1835: from south to northeast.
If you lay the tile 8 for example 8/D18/SE, the tile goes from se to NE, 
in rails from se to W.
totaly different tile laying.
this applies also to tile 5.

Volker Schnell

Am 06.06.2013 03:32, schrieb Mike Bourke:
> Those look right to me. But then I hadn't noticed any orientation
> differences in the first place.
>
> Mike Bourke
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>
>> From: John David Galt [mailto:jd...@di...]
>> Sent: Thursday, 6 June 2013 11:06 AM
>> To: Development list for Rails: an 18xx game
>> Subject: Re: [Rails-devel] Tile orientation in 1835
>> I set up the Blackwater Station page http://18xx.net/tiles/1835.htm to
> match my copy of the game.  I believe it also agrees with the orientations
> Bill Stoll and Steve Thomas use in their PBEM 1835 games.
>> Can you tell us what is different between any of those four and your set?
>
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Re: [Rails-devel] Tile orientation in 1835

[Mike B. <com...@ip...>]

Those look right to me. But then I hadn't noticed any orientation
differences in the first place.

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> From: John David Galt [mailto:jd...@di...] 
> Sent: Thursday, 6 June 2013 11:06 AM
> To: Development list for Rails: an 18xx game
> Subject: Re: [Rails-devel] Tile orientation in 1835

> I set up the Blackwater Station page http://18xx.net/tiles/1835.htm to
match my copy of the game.  I believe it also agrees with the orientations
Bill Stoll and Steve Thomas use in their PBEM 1835 games.
> Can you tell us what is different between any of those four and your set?

Re: [Rails-devel] Tile orientation in 1835

[John D. G. <jd...@di...>]

> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Oliver <oli...@gm... <mailto:oli...@gm...>> wrote:
>> the tile orientations in 1835 are different from the original game. Any
>> reason for that?
>>
>> I am moderating a game of 1835 and I am really having a hard time with
>> that. :-(

On 2013-06-05 13:39, John A. Tamplin wrote:
> My recollection is that 1835 is one of those that wasn't even consistent
> with itself (I don't remember if it was within the game, where some
> copies of the same numbered tile had different orientation) or between
> copies of games.

I set up the Blackwater Station page http://18xx.net/tiles/1835.htm
to match my copy of the game.  I believe it also agrees with the
orientations Bill Stoll and Steve Thomas use in their PBEM 1835 games.
Can you tell us what is different between any of those four and your set?

Re: [Rails-devel] Tile orientation in 1835

[John A. T. <ja...@ja...>]

On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Oliver <oli...@gm...> wrote:

> the tile orientations in 1835 are different from the original game. Any
> reason for that?
>
> I am moderating a game of 1835 and I am really having a hard time with
> that. :-(
>

My recollection is that 1835 is one of those that wasn't even consistent
with itself (I don't remember if it was within the game, where some copies
of the same numbered tile had different orientation) or between copies of
games.

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[Rails-devel] Tile orientation in 1835

[Oliver <oli...@gm...>]

Hi,

the tile orientations in 1835 are different from the original game. Any reason for that?

I am moderating a game of 1835 and I am really having a hard time with that. :-(

Cheers,
Oliver

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[Rails-devel] Rails 1.7.2, 1835 problems.

[Schnell, V. <vol...@ar...>]

Hi,

two problems.
HB is offered to a person, who has no Priority Deal.
In the first Share Round the HB was not sold.
in the third Share Round the HB is offered to Jupp instead of Sven, who 
has the Priority Deal.
(file: ...hb.rails)

After the HB was bought, it is not possible to sell the Bay shares.
Rules: 7.1 no shares may be sold during the first share round.

This rule is not true, because it's the third share round.
The Bay has also operated two times.
(See also First Share Round: Should certificates from the Startpaket 
fail to sell in the first Share round, then they must first be sold in 
subsequent Share rounds before other shares are available)
(file  ..bay.rails)

Greetings

Volker

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Re: [Rails-devel] Update on Rails 2.0

[Phil D. <de...@gm...>]

Good to hear you are back Stefan, I'm looking forward to seeing the 2.0
stuff as and when you can find time to get it done :)




On 27 May 2013 12:07, Stefan Frey <ste...@we...> wrote:

> Sorry for the long delay after my last input. Unfortunately private
> issues not always allow to focus on those things that we do in a spare
> time. And that has been true for myself in the past few months.
>
> But due to some fortunate circumstances I was able to spend some time
> and thoughts on a topic, which was still missing in Rails: This was the
> full enforcement of tile laying rules. Some time ago I have started some
> programming to close that, however I had not fully analyzed all issues
> involved. I am pretty confident that I did better this time and there is
> a branch "route" committed to the rails repo. It is based on Rails2.0
> and still needs to be merged with that the head of Rails2.0 before it is
> available for testing. However all required functionality for tile
> laying is already in. And yes it does support all three common rules
> (permissive, semi-restrictive and restrictive). The other thing which is
> still in progress is the enforcement of the allowed token lays (thus
> checking if there is a valid route). However this will take much less
> effort compared to the tile laying rules.
>
> You will understand that I am pretty reluctant to give any estimate when
> it will be available for testing and release, but I hope it will be
> soon, whenever soon will be. ;-)
>
>
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Re: [Rails-devel] Bug, 1.7.12, 1835, buying shares

[Stefan F. <ste...@we...>]

For the same reasons mentioned in previous message, a late response.
I will answer the other mails in the next few days.

The launch method changed:
Please use "Run As...", Java Application on rails.util.RunGame.

If you set Project => Build Automatically... to true, the build process 
is done by eclipse every time it is required.


On 05/21/2013 05:05 PM, brett lentz wrote:
>
> On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 4:05 PM, John David Galt
> <jd...@di... <mailto:jd...@di...>>
> wrote:
>
>     At the point of this save file, Marcus wants to buy another 10% of HE
>     but isn't allowed.  (There was an earlier purchase of HE that was then
>     undone, so I'm guessing that something didn't get undone correctly.)
>
>     Also:
>     I've managed to clone Rails using Eclipse (on Windows XP); now how do
>     I build and run it?
>
>
> In Eclipse, you can select "Run As..." and pick "Java Application", then
> point it at the main() method in the (poorly named) rails.test.GameTest
> class.
>
> There's also a context menu to run the app if you right-click the class
> file with the main() method.
>
> If you right-click on the Build.xml, you can also run the Ant tasks that
> build the jar file.
>
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[Rails-devel] Update on Rails 2.0

[Stefan F. <ste...@we...>]

Sorry for the long delay after my last input. Unfortunately private 
issues not always allow to focus on those things that we do in a spare 
time. And that has been true for myself in the past few months.

But due to some fortunate circumstances I was able to spend some time 
and thoughts on a topic, which was still missing in Rails: This was the
full enforcement of tile laying rules. Some time ago I have started some 
programming to close that, however I had not fully analyzed all issues 
involved. I am pretty confident that I did better this time and there is 
a branch "route" committed to the rails repo. It is based on Rails2.0 
and still needs to be merged with that the head of Rails2.0 before it is 
available for testing. However all required functionality for tile 
laying is already in. And yes it does support all three common rules 
(permissive, semi-restrictive and restrictive). The other thing which is 
still in progress is the enforcement of the allowed token lays (thus 
checking if there is a valid route). However this will take much less 
effort compared to the tile laying rules.

You will understand that I am pretty reluctant to give any estimate when 
it will be available for testing and release, but I hope it will be 
soon, whenever soon will be. ;-)

Re: [Rails-devel] Bug, 1.7.12, 1835, buying shares

[brett l. <bre...@gm...>]

On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 4:05 PM, John David Galt <
jd...@di...> wrote:

> At the point of this save file, Marcus wants to buy another 10% of HE
> but isn't allowed.  (There was an earlier purchase of HE that was then
> undone, so I'm guessing that something didn't get undone correctly.)
>
> Also:
> I've managed to clone Rails using Eclipse (on Windows XP); now how do
> I build and run it?
>
>

In Eclipse, you can select "Run As..." and pick "Java Application", then
point it at the main() method in the (poorly named) rails.test.GameTest
class.

There's also a context menu to run the app if you right-click the class
file with the main() method.

If you right-click on the Build.xml, you can also run the Ant tasks that
build the jar file.

---Brett.

[Rails-devel] Bug, 1.7.12, 1835, buying shares

[John D. G. <jd...@di...>]

At the point of this save file, Marcus wants to buy another 10% of HE
but isn't allowed.  (There was an earlier purchase of HE that was then
undone, so I'm guessing that something didn't get undone correctly.)

Also:
I've managed to clone Rails using Eclipse (on Windows XP); now how do
I build and run it?

Re: [Rails-devel] 1835 Shareprice of Pru at the End of an SR

[John D. G. <jd...@di...>]

On 2013-04-28 23:44, vol...@ar... wrote:
> Sorry, i forgot the savefile.
> The Pru is in the Sharedealing Round a company, that has operated, i.e. it is possible to sell Pru-Shares.
> Volker 

In the English rules, at least, PR shares can be sold as soon as the
M2 has converted, floating PR.  Unlike other companies, PR does not
need to have operated.

Re: [Rails-devel] 1835 Shareprice of Pru at the End of an SR

[Mike B. <com...@ip...>]

Without a save game it's difficult to know, but if the Prussian Railroad had
not yet run, it might not be elegibile for an adjustment to its stock price.
This is the case in some 18xx rules, not sure if 1835 is one of them.


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[Rails-devel] 1835 Shareprice of Pru at the End of an SR

[Schnell, V. <vol...@ar...>]

Hi,

here is the next issue to 1835.
the prussian gets startet in OR 4.2 with a Sharevalue 154.
in the share dealing round all 10% Shares were bought by the players and 
none were sold.
at the end of the Share Dealing round there were no Shares in the Bank 
pool nor  initial Shares are available. Some pre-Prussians company were 
not closed.
Rails: at the End of the round  the share price of the pru is not moved 
up one row.

(comment of rails:All players have passed, end of SR 5, SX price goes 
from 112M(F4) to 122M(F3).

SX is sold out, price rises from 112M(F4) to 122M(F3)
BY price goes from 106M(G6) to 114M(G5).
BY is sold out, price rises from 106M(G6) to 114M(G5)
BA price goes from 84M(B4) to 86M(B3).
BA is sold out, price rises from 84M(B4) to 86M(B3)
HE price goes from 84M(B4) to 86M(B3).
HE is sold out, price rises from 84M(B4) to 86M(B3))

English Rules, XiV, 4: if at the end of a share Dealing Round, all 
purchasable shares in a company are owned by players, i.e. sold and none 
in the bank pool, then the share price marker is moved up one row on the 
share price index.

This statement is true for the prussian.

is it possible, to adjust rails (1.7.12) ?

greetings

volker


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Re: [Rails-devel] 1856 - Wrong Net Worth calculations showing in the Status Window

[Erik V. <eri...@xs...>]

Indeed. Rails intends to calculate player worth at every point in time as if
the game would terminate at that very moment.

Erik.

 

From: Chris Shaffer [mailto:chr...@gm...] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 5:01 AM
To: Development list for Rails: an 18xx game
Subject: Re: [Rails-devel] 1856 - Wrong Net Worth calculations showing in
the Status Window

 

I just checked the rules on the Mayfair site. They say:

 

http://mayfairgames.com/mfg-shop3/rules/MFG0472-Rules-V1_0.pdf

 

"If the game ends before the CGR is formed, all companies with outstanding
government loans have their share values reduced by $10 per outstanding loan
held by that company."




 

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On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 7:46 PM, John David Galt
<jd...@di...> wrote:

On 2013-04-23 16:30, Chris Shaffer wrote:
> I don't have the rules handy, but if I recall correctly, the stock price
is moved one space left for each loan outstanding at the end of the game.
Rails includes this in the worth calculation throughout the game.

You must be thinking of some other game.  1856 doesn't have such a
mechanism.  But unless there's a bankruptcy (which is very rare), 1856
won't end with any loans outstanding -- because when the first 6 train
is purchased, every company must either pay off all its loans, or merge
into the CGR.



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Re: [Rails-devel] 1856 - Wrong Net Worth calculations showing in the Status Window

[Chris S. <chr...@gm...>]

I just checked the rules on the Mayfair site. They say:

http://mayfairgames.com/mfg-shop3/rules/MFG0472-Rules-V1_0.pdf

"If the game ends before the CGR is formed, all companies with outstanding
government loans have their share values reduced by $10 per outstanding
loan held by that company."


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On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 7:46 PM, John David Galt <
jd...@di...> wrote:

> On 2013-04-23 16:30, Chris Shaffer wrote:
> > I don't have the rules handy, but if I recall correctly, the stock price
> is moved one space left for each loan outstanding at the end of the game.
> Rails includes this in the worth calculation throughout the game.
>
> You must be thinking of some other game.  1856 doesn't have such a
> mechanism.  But unless there's a bankruptcy (which is very rare), 1856
> won't end with any loans outstanding -- because when the first 6 train
> is purchased, every company must either pay off all its loans, or merge
> into the CGR.
>
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Re: [Rails-devel] 1856 - Wrong Net Worth calculations showing in the Status Window

[John D. G. <jd...@di...>]

On 2013-04-23 16:30, Chris Shaffer wrote:
> I don't have the rules handy, but if I recall correctly, the stock price is moved one space left for each loan outstanding at the end of the game. Rails includes this in the worth calculation throughout the game.

You must be thinking of some other game.  1856 doesn't have such a
mechanism.  But unless there's a bankruptcy (which is very rare), 1856
won't end with any loans outstanding -- because when the first 6 train
is purchased, every company must either pay off all its loans, or merge
into the CGR.

Re: [Rails-devel] 1856 - Wrong Net Worth calculations showing in the Status Window

[Chris S. <chr...@gm...>]

I don't have the rules handy, but if I recall correctly, the stock price is
moved one space left for each loan outstanding at the end of the game.
Rails includes this in the worth calculation throughout the game.


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On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Bob Probst <bob...@gm...> wrote:

> You mean if we had to cover them out of Pocket?  So -$200 in loans plus
> company treasury gives the adjustment to Net Worth?
>
> Or something like that?
>
> That makes sense.  Thanks!
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Chris Shaffer <chr...@gm...>wrote:
>
>> It's including the loss from the loans in the stock value calculation.
>>
>>
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>>
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>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Bob Probst <bob...@gm...> wrote:
>>
>>> We're in the middle of a standard 1856 and noticed some inconsistencies
>>> in the Player Net Value as well as the Net worth gain/loss.  Clearly the
>>> Net Value is the main concern since that has a direct bearing on the winner!
>>>
>>> As you can see in the Save file and Screen shot:  Steve, for example
>>> shows a Net Worth of $250.  But with $25 cash and five shares valued at
>>> $65, it should be $350!
>>>
>>> BobP has 3x$65 shares plus $100 private and $84 cash.  Adds up to $379
>>> but Rails shows $319
>>>
>>> All other players show a similar discrepancy.
>>>
>>> Likewise, the Net Worth change is wrong.
>>>
>>> Just curious if you can figure out what might be going on.
>>>
>>> I am using Rails 1.7.12 as is the player who noticed it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 1:46 PM, John David Galt <
>>> jd...@di...> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Undoing one or more actions during the Start Round does not appear to
>>>> restore the cash each player had available for bidding at the earlier
>>>> time
>>>> (the "Free" number in the Start Round window).
>>>>
>>>> Once I make additional bids, "Free" gets set to the correct number for
>>>> the
>>>> player making the new bid, so the cash actually is being given back --
>>>> it
>>>> just looks like it isn't because the display doesn't get refreshed.
>>>> So this is a minor, appearance bug and not a show stopper -- but maybe
>>>> should get mentioned as a known issue in release notes.
>>>>
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Re: [Rails-devel] 1856 - Wrong Net Worth calculations showing in the Status Window

[Bob P. <bob...@gm...>]

You mean if we had to cover them out of Pocket?  So -$200 in loans plus
company treasury gives the adjustment to Net Worth?

Or something like that?

That makes sense.  Thanks!


On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Chris Shaffer <chr...@gm...>wrote:

> It's including the loss from the loans in the stock value calculation.
>
>
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>
> Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.
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>
> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Bob Probst <bob...@gm...> wrote:
>
>> We're in the middle of a standard 1856 and noticed some inconsistencies
>> in the Player Net Value as well as the Net worth gain/loss.  Clearly the
>> Net Value is the main concern since that has a direct bearing on the winner!
>>
>> As you can see in the Save file and Screen shot:  Steve, for example
>> shows a Net Worth of $250.  But with $25 cash and five shares valued at
>> $65, it should be $350!
>>
>> BobP has 3x$65 shares plus $100 private and $84 cash.  Adds up to $379
>> but Rails shows $319
>>
>> All other players show a similar discrepancy.
>>
>> Likewise, the Net Worth change is wrong.
>>
>> Just curious if you can figure out what might be going on.
>>
>> I am using Rails 1.7.12 as is the player who noticed it.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 1:46 PM, John David Galt <
>> jd...@di...> wrote:
>>
>>> Undoing one or more actions during the Start Round does not appear to
>>> restore the cash each player had available for bidding at the earlier
>>> time
>>> (the "Free" number in the Start Round window).
>>>
>>> Once I make additional bids, "Free" gets set to the correct number for
>>> the
>>> player making the new bid, so the cash actually is being given back -- it
>>> just looks like it isn't because the display doesn't get refreshed.
>>> So this is a minor, appearance bug and not a show stopper -- but maybe
>>> should get mentioned as a known issue in release notes.
>>>
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Re: [Rails-devel] 1856 - Wrong Net Worth calculations showing in the Status Window

[Chris S. <chr...@gm...>]

It's including the loss from the loans in the stock value calculation.


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On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Bob Probst <bob...@gm...> wrote:

> We're in the middle of a standard 1856 and noticed some inconsistencies in
> the Player Net Value as well as the Net worth gain/loss.  Clearly the Net
> Value is the main concern since that has a direct bearing on the winner!
>
> As you can see in the Save file and Screen shot:  Steve, for example shows
> a Net Worth of $250.  But with $25 cash and five shares valued at $65, it
> should be $350!
>
> BobP has 3x$65 shares plus $100 private and $84 cash.  Adds up to $379 but
> Rails shows $319
>
> All other players show a similar discrepancy.
>
> Likewise, the Net Worth change is wrong.
>
> Just curious if you can figure out what might be going on.
>
> I am using Rails 1.7.12 as is the player who noticed it.
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 1:46 PM, John David Galt <
> jd...@di...> wrote:
>
>> Undoing one or more actions during the Start Round does not appear to
>> restore the cash each player had available for bidding at the earlier time
>> (the "Free" number in the Start Round window).
>>
>> Once I make additional bids, "Free" gets set to the correct number for the
>> player making the new bid, so the cash actually is being given back -- it
>> just looks like it isn't because the display doesn't get refreshed.
>> So this is a minor, appearance bug and not a show stopper -- but maybe
>> should get mentioned as a known issue in release notes.
>>
>>
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>> Reduce network management and security costs.Learn how to hire
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[Rails-devel] Bug, 1.7.12, 18AL

[John D. G. <jd...@di...>]

Undoing one or more actions during the Start Round does not appear to
restore the cash each player had available for bidding at the earlier time
(the "Free" number in the Start Round window).

Once I make additional bids, "Free" gets set to the correct number for the
player making the new bid, so the cash actually is being given back -- it
just looks like it isn't because the display doesn't get refreshed.
So this is a minor, appearance bug and not a show stopper -- but maybe
should get mentioned as a known issue in release notes.

Re: [Rails-devel] 1830+

[Erik V. <eri...@xs...>]

No, at least not yet.  In any case I can't help, as I don't have or know the
Mayfair edition.
Erik.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Patrick Giemsa [mailto:pg...@me...]
> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 7:50 PM
> To: rai...@li...
> Subject: [Rails-devel] 1830+
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> is there support for rails to work with the 1830 Map of the mayfair
edition?
> Would be great to hear from you.
> 
> Patrick
> 
> 
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[Rails-devel] 1830+

[Patrick G. <pg...@me...>]

Hello everyone,

is there support for rails to work with the 1830 Map of the mayfair edition?
Would be great to hear from you.

Patrick