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From: Stefan F. <ste...@we...> - 2014-02-21 13:40:06
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Thanks, I got the same impression, but I was not sure. OK, if you do not mind, I will try to move some generic functionality into the PlayManager and other related classes or even create a StartRound-Utility class. This would allow to focus even more on the specific functionality in the StartRound_18xx classes. Stefan On 02/21/2014 02:22 PM, Michael Alexander wrote: > I will check later on today to make sure, however, I believe that > StartRound_1880 is the the only one that is not used. I added the > ability in the base code to have two start rounds defined, and the two > that run are StartRound_Privates_1880 and StartRound_Investors_1880. I > made StartRound_Sequential as a base class with the idea that it was > generic enough that it could be put back into base rails for other games > that might need it. > > Mike > > > On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Stefan Frey <ste...@we... > <mailto:ste...@we...>> wrote: > > Martin & Alexander: > I wonder which of the 1880 start rounds are currently used? > > In rails_2_develop_1880 there are: > > StartRound_1880 > StartRound_Investors_1880 > StartRound_Sequential with Subclass StartRound_Privates_1880 > > Can you shed some light on it? > > Thanks for your help, > Stefan > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications > Take advantage of what the Cloud has to offer - Avoid Common Pitfalls. > Read the Whitepaper. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=121054471&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Rails-devel mailing list > Rai...@li... > <mailto:Rai...@li...> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications > Take advantage of what the Cloud has to offer - Avoid Common Pitfalls. > Read the Whitepaper. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=121054471&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rails-devel mailing list > Rai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > |
From: Michael A. <out...@gm...> - 2014-02-21 13:22:37
|
I will check later on today to make sure, however, I believe that StartRound_1880 is the the only one that is not used. I added the ability in the base code to have two start rounds defined, and the two that run are StartRound_Privates_1880 and StartRound_Investors_1880. I made StartRound_Sequential as a base class with the idea that it was generic enough that it could be put back into base rails for other games that might need it. Mike On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Stefan Frey <ste...@we...> wrote: > Martin & Alexander: > I wonder which of the 1880 start rounds are currently used? > > In rails_2_develop_1880 there are: > > StartRound_1880 > StartRound_Investors_1880 > StartRound_Sequential with Subclass StartRound_Privates_1880 > > Can you shed some light on it? > > Thanks for your help, > Stefan > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications > Take advantage of what the Cloud has to offer - Avoid Common Pitfalls. > Read the Whitepaper. > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=121054471&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Rails-devel mailing list > Rai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > |
From: PETER L. <pt...@me...> - 2014-02-21 10:38:35
|
1880 Rails Issues in 1.8.7 I posted about an earlier version, and some fixes were implemented, but these items are still “buggy” and should be fixed. Undos in Rails do not reset completely to the state prior to the previous action Most obvious is when a company is started then an undo is performed if the player changes their mind and wishes to start another company. The “Undone” company still takes a slot in the par slot table. Rails does not automatically add the +50 for the Russia to Vladivostok run. Communist Phase (Begins when 1st four train is bought, ends when first 6 train is bought) Rails does not prevent the a Foreign Investor that still exists from operating (there should be no track lay, no earnings). Rails does not freeze the stock market (stock values should not move from operations and/or stock sales) Rails does not prevent directors from selling their company stock (directors cannot sell shares in companies they control) Occasionally Rails retires trains after the companies operate around to the last train purchaser but then does not go into the stock round but sticks on “Done” clicks in the operating round window and starts deleting trains. Rails does not make the “special” two trains ($250, takes up train slot on company but does not count as a required train for the company) available after the first 6 train is bought. |
From: brett l. <bre...@gm...> - 2014-02-20 16:11:39
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As far as I can tell, Sourceforge doesn't support HTTPS on their web hosting. I'm generally in favor of using Github, as I already use it for my day job. If everybody is in favor, I can create a new organization on github to manage the repository. Once I receive github usernames from key contributors, I can add them as admins on the Org. ---Brett. ---Brett. On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 3:57 AM, Stefan Frey <ste...@we...> wrote: > Changing it to https on sourceforge is not possible, as far as I know > sourceforge does not provide any https hosting. > > Maybe Brett knows better. > > However I assume it likely that the recent change of Webstart security > permissions by Oracle will bring some demand for such hosting. > > And I expect that Java applications will get another push from upcoming > release of Java 8. Especially as JavaFX and Javascript will be fully > integrated into core Java and that allows new features to UI design and > application deployment. > > See e.g. > http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javafx/overview/roadmap-1446331.html > > That is the reason why I am still reluctant to make a rewrite of the UI > (by integrating MigLayout) now, as it might be worth for waiting to the > new developments there. > > So for the time being I really like Webstart for rolling out releases in > short intervals, but not so much to deploy to the end-users. > > I think this is something we should consider in a broader context: > Should we move the repo from sourceforge to github? > Myself I would prefer to use github instead of sourceforge as my feeling > is that github is the better solution in the long-run. > > Stefan > > > > Hi Stefan, > > > > i was able to successfully start the alpha 3 after updating Java and > > fiddling with the security :) > > The http-Protocol is raising all kind of flags, any insight what does it > > take to switch to https ? > > > > Regards, > > Martin > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications > > Take advantage of what the Cloud has to offer - Avoid Common Pitfalls. > > Read the Whitepaper. > > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=121054471&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails-devel mailing list > > Rai...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications > Take advantage of what the Cloud has to offer - Avoid Common Pitfalls. > Read the Whitepaper. > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=121054471&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Rails-devel mailing list > Rai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > |
From: Stefan F. <ste...@we...> - 2014-02-20 15:15:33
|
Martin & Alexander: I wonder which of the 1880 start rounds are currently used? In rails_2_develop_1880 there are: StartRound_1880 StartRound_Investors_1880 StartRound_Sequential with Subclass StartRound_Privates_1880 Can you shed some light on it? Thanks for your help, Stefan |
From: Stefan F. <ste...@we...> - 2014-02-18 14:19:09
|
Erik, sure I understand that reason: That was the reason why the PlayerOrderModel includes the method getNextPlayer(). However internally the order is simply stored by an ArrayListState and I use exactly the formula as you. However the order stored inside the model is used for that, not the index numbers of the players. Otherwise index numbers have to be state variables and that would cause havoc to the reload process. This change will make player names the id's for Player objects and the "index" is only derived from the (current) player order, so it is not suitable for identification. Best way to refer in code to a Player is to use the Player object directly. Only for storage or UI purposes it is converted to the id. I have kept the names to players map that already existed to keep the existing getPlayerForName(String name) method. All others that relate to indices will be removed, as they are potentially dangerous. There is a next player method in PlayerManager and I will add playerInOrder(Player after) method that will return a List<Player> that lists all players in order "after" the Player argument. This is a quite often replicated functionality. Thanks for your clarification, Stefan On 02/18/2014 01:33 PM, Erik Vos wrote: > Stefan, > > The main reason to have an index was to identify the "next player", where > applicable, being (currentPlayerIndex + 1) mod numberOfPlayers. > I suppose you'll need to have (references to) the player names in some > (possibly circular) linked list to keep this behaviour without an explicit > index. > > Erik > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Stefan Frey [mailto:ste...@we...] >> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 12:20 PM >> To: Development list for Rails: an 18xx game >> Subject: [Rails-devel] PlayerManager rewrite for 1880 >> >> Martin & Alexander & Erik: >> I did a complete rewrite of the PlayerManager to include 1880 requirements >> that allows a change of player order. >> >> One issue I have to solve is the following: >> In some cases of Rails players are identified by index and not by name. >> However index is both a property of the Player (thus static) and >> PlayerManager (thus for 1880 dynamic). >> >> I propose to use the player Names as identifiers for players instead of > the >> index. Actually they are used as the official id inside the Rails players > objects >> in 2.0 already. >> >> May intention is to drop index altogether and rely only on name. >> >> I have still to identify which old existing code refers to what (player > order or >> player index identity) and then replace that accordingly. >> >> All methods in PlayerManager that deal with the index are set to > deprecated >> to indicate that. However they will be removed at the end of this process. >> >> Fortunately the PossibleAction class already writes both index and name to >> the save files, so we should be able to keep the existing save files > without >> conversion and writing support code for this. >> >> Erik: Do you have any other idea or comment, what we should consider >> here? >> >> Please review my changes in rails_2_develop_1880. The code compiles, >> however does not run so far, until the index issue is solved. >> >> Stefan >> >> >> Some further details on the rewrite: >> >> This is a good example how I best-practice structure of elements in 1880 >> looks like: >> >> * If several states belong to a common structure create a Model (here >> PlayerOrderModel) and have all of them contained inside. >> >> This is the only place where I use some "magic", which I usually do not > like, as >> it might surprise some. Models get automatically subscribed as models to >> states where they are parents to. >> >> So you do need to add the Model to the state using state.addModel(model). >> Usually it is the case for states that are defined as fields inside of > models and >> you avoid to have state.addModel(this) for all states. >> >> Using this mechanism the model is always updated if any of the contained >> states are updated and all observers of the model get updated as well. >> However you are free to bind the Model to any other state (or other > model). >> >> And yes: I use a topological sort to figure out which model has to be > updated >> if the model graph gets more complex. It detects and reports cycles to the >> log-file ;-) Currently the structure of Rails models is not that > complex... >> >> * If the model is closely tied to a Rails class make the Model a static > nested >> class of the Rails class. >> >> This strongly shows that this model should only be created from inside > that >> class. If the constructor is made private, that will be the case. >> >> * Put most of the controlling and interacting code with the outside world >> inside the (main) Rail class. The model should mainly used to store the > states >> and allow interaction with the states. And it is the outside than shown to > the >> UI client. >> >> This is still be done here. >> >> * And there are a lot of nice features in the Google Guava library to > write >> concise and fluent code. Take a look if you think you are missing some > nice >> feature from more modern languages. >> >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- >> Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications Take advantage of >> what the Cloud has to offer - Avoid Common Pitfalls. >> Read the Whitepaper. >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=121054471&iu=/4140/ostg.cl >> ktrk >> _______________________________________________ >> Rails-devel mailing list >> Rai...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications > Take advantage of what the Cloud has to offer - Avoid Common Pitfalls. > Read the Whitepaper. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=121054471&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Rails-devel mailing list > Rai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > |
From: Erik V. <eri...@xs...> - 2014-02-18 12:33:43
|
Stefan, The main reason to have an index was to identify the "next player", where applicable, being (currentPlayerIndex + 1) mod numberOfPlayers. I suppose you'll need to have (references to) the player names in some (possibly circular) linked list to keep this behaviour without an explicit index. Erik > -----Original Message----- > From: Stefan Frey [mailto:ste...@we...] > Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 12:20 PM > To: Development list for Rails: an 18xx game > Subject: [Rails-devel] PlayerManager rewrite for 1880 > > Martin & Alexander & Erik: > I did a complete rewrite of the PlayerManager to include 1880 requirements > that allows a change of player order. > > One issue I have to solve is the following: > In some cases of Rails players are identified by index and not by name. > However index is both a property of the Player (thus static) and > PlayerManager (thus for 1880 dynamic). > > I propose to use the player Names as identifiers for players instead of the > index. Actually they are used as the official id inside the Rails players objects > in 2.0 already. > > May intention is to drop index altogether and rely only on name. > > I have still to identify which old existing code refers to what (player order or > player index identity) and then replace that accordingly. > > All methods in PlayerManager that deal with the index are set to deprecated > to indicate that. However they will be removed at the end of this process. > > Fortunately the PossibleAction class already writes both index and name to > the save files, so we should be able to keep the existing save files without > conversion and writing support code for this. > > Erik: Do you have any other idea or comment, what we should consider > here? > > Please review my changes in rails_2_develop_1880. The code compiles, > however does not run so far, until the index issue is solved. > > Stefan > > > Some further details on the rewrite: > > This is a good example how I best-practice structure of elements in 1880 > looks like: > > * If several states belong to a common structure create a Model (here > PlayerOrderModel) and have all of them contained inside. > > This is the only place where I use some "magic", which I usually do not like, as > it might surprise some. Models get automatically subscribed as models to > states where they are parents to. > > So you do need to add the Model to the state using state.addModel(model). > Usually it is the case for states that are defined as fields inside of models and > you avoid to have state.addModel(this) for all states. > > Using this mechanism the model is always updated if any of the contained > states are updated and all observers of the model get updated as well. > However you are free to bind the Model to any other state (or other model). > > And yes: I use a topological sort to figure out which model has to be updated > if the model graph gets more complex. It detects and reports cycles to the > log-file ;-) Currently the structure of Rails models is not that complex... > > * If the model is closely tied to a Rails class make the Model a static nested > class of the Rails class. > > This strongly shows that this model should only be created from inside that > class. If the constructor is made private, that will be the case. > > * Put most of the controlling and interacting code with the outside world > inside the (main) Rail class. The model should mainly used to store the states > and allow interaction with the states. And it is the outside than shown to the > UI client. > > This is still be done here. > > * And there are a lot of nice features in the Google Guava library to write > concise and fluent code. Take a look if you think you are missing some nice > feature from more modern languages. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications Take advantage of > what the Cloud has to offer - Avoid Common Pitfalls. > Read the Whitepaper. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=121054471&iu=/4140/ostg.cl > ktrk > _______________________________________________ > Rails-devel mailing list > Rai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel |
From: Stefan F. <ste...@we...> - 2014-02-18 11:19:57
|
Martin & Alexander & Erik: I did a complete rewrite of the PlayerManager to include 1880 requirements that allows a change of player order. One issue I have to solve is the following: In some cases of Rails players are identified by index and not by name. However index is both a property of the Player (thus static) and PlayerManager (thus for 1880 dynamic). I propose to use the player Names as identifiers for players instead of the index. Actually they are used as the official id inside the Rails players objects in 2.0 already. May intention is to drop index altogether and rely only on name. I have still to identify which old existing code refers to what (player order or player index identity) and then replace that accordingly. All methods in PlayerManager that deal with the index are set to deprecated to indicate that. However they will be removed at the end of this process. Fortunately the PossibleAction class already writes both index and name to the save files, so we should be able to keep the existing save files without conversion and writing support code for this. Erik: Do you have any other idea or comment, what we should consider here? Please review my changes in rails_2_develop_1880. The code compiles, however does not run so far, until the index issue is solved. Stefan Some further details on the rewrite: This is a good example how I best-practice structure of elements in 1880 looks like: * If several states belong to a common structure create a Model (here PlayerOrderModel) and have all of them contained inside. This is the only place where I use some "magic", which I usually do not like, as it might surprise some. Models get automatically subscribed as models to states where they are parents to. So you do need to add the Model to the state using state.addModel(model). Usually it is the case for states that are defined as fields inside of models and you avoid to have state.addModel(this) for all states. Using this mechanism the model is always updated if any of the contained states are updated and all observers of the model get updated as well. However you are free to bind the Model to any other state (or other model). And yes: I use a topological sort to figure out which model has to be updated if the model graph gets more complex. It detects and reports cycles to the log-file ;-) Currently the structure of Rails models is not that complex... * If the model is closely tied to a Rails class make the Model a static nested class of the Rails class. This strongly shows that this model should only be created from inside that class. If the constructor is made private, that will be the case. * Put most of the controlling and interacting code with the outside world inside the (main) Rail class. The model should mainly used to store the states and allow interaction with the states. And it is the outside than shown to the UI client. This is still be done here. * And there are a lot of nice features in the Google Guava library to write concise and fluent code. Take a look if you think you are missing some nice feature from more modern languages. |
From: Stefan F. <ste...@we...> - 2014-02-18 08:57:14
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Changing it to https on sourceforge is not possible, as far as I know sourceforge does not provide any https hosting. Maybe Brett knows better. However I assume it likely that the recent change of Webstart security permissions by Oracle will bring some demand for such hosting. And I expect that Java applications will get another push from upcoming release of Java 8. Especially as JavaFX and Javascript will be fully integrated into core Java and that allows new features to UI design and application deployment. See e.g. http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javafx/overview/roadmap-1446331.html That is the reason why I am still reluctant to make a rewrite of the UI (by integrating MigLayout) now, as it might be worth for waiting to the new developments there. So for the time being I really like Webstart for rolling out releases in short intervals, but not so much to deploy to the end-users. I think this is something we should consider in a broader context: Should we move the repo from sourceforge to github? Myself I would prefer to use github instead of sourceforge as my feeling is that github is the better solution in the long-run. Stefan > Hi Stefan, > > i was able to successfully start the alpha 3 after updating Java and > fiddling with the security :) > The http-Protocol is raising all kind of flags, any insight what does it > take to switch to https ? > > Regards, > Martin > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications > Take advantage of what the Cloud has to offer - Avoid Common Pitfalls. > Read the Whitepaper. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=121054471&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rails-devel mailing list > Rai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > |
From: Martin B. <dr....@t-...> - 2014-02-17 20:57:47
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Am 17.02.2014 20:11, schrieb Stefan Frey: > Third alpha-release should have fixed all problems to start a new game > on Windows OS. > > Webstart the alpha release: > > http://rails.sf.net/webstart/rails.jnlp > > Or download a single jar and start it directly (by double-click or > command line "java -jar" command). > > https://sourceforge.net/projects/rails/files/Rails/2.0/ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications > Take advantage of what the Cloud has to offer - Avoid Common Pitfalls. > Read the Whitepaper. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=121054471&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Rails-devel mailing list > Rai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel Hi Stefan, i was able to successfully start the alpha 3 after updating Java and fiddling with the security :) The http-Protocol is raising all kind of flags, any insight what does it take to switch to https ? Regards, Martin |
From: Stefan F. <ste...@we...> - 2014-02-17 19:11:30
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Third alpha-release should have fixed all problems to start a new game on Windows OS. Webstart the alpha release: http://rails.sf.net/webstart/rails.jnlp Or download a single jar and start it directly (by double-click or command line "java -jar" command). https://sourceforge.net/projects/rails/files/Rails/2.0/ |
From: Phil D. <de...@gm...> - 2014-02-17 16:23:10
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That's got it running, I'll carry on testing and let you know. I am transparently proxied on this connection, I have absolutely no control over it which is a pain, it wouldn't surprise me if that was an issue and it was sending me the older copy On 17 February 2014 15:36, Stefan Frey <ste...@we...> wrote: > OK, you were running the old version. I have not fully checked how the > current Oracle Webstart tests for new versions. Using IcedTea Webstart > on Linux recognizes that there is a new jar on the server. > > I now force a reload by renaming the rails jar even for those > intermediate versions. So if you are able to receive the new jnlp, it > should work now. (however it can still be cache/proxy etc.) > > Could you pleas try again? > > > On 02/17/2014 03:08 PM, Phil Davies wrote: > > It's the webstart version I'm testing, I did redownload the .JNLP and > > have just done so again, but It's coming up with the same error so I'm > > wondering if something else odd is happening and maybe it's not sending > > me an updated JNLP file? > > > > > > > > > > On 17 February 2014 13:01, Stefan Frey <ste...@we... > > <mailto:ste...@we...>> wrote: > > > > Yes, but it should have been fixed with my previous change. > > Did you run via Webstart or via the jar from the file section? > > > > I have updated the webstart version only, that shows in the log if > you > > have used the updated version. > > > > Could you please try again? > > > > Thanks! > > > > On 02/17/2014 01:00 PM, Phil Davies wrote: > > > Same, I'm guessing this is the culprit: > > > > > > 2014-02-17 12:00:15 DEBUG Locate fullPath=data\1830/TileSet.xml > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 17 February 2014 11:54, Stefan Frey <ste...@we... > > <mailto:ste...@we...> > > > <mailto:ste...@we... <mailto:ste...@we...>>> wrote: > > > > > > Thanks. Both the behavior and the log confirmed that this is > > a related > > > but different bug. I have updated the webstart contents > > (however not the > > > jar in the file section). > > > > > > This loading difference between Resources (always "/") and > > Files (OS > > > specific separators) is a subtle issue. > > > > > > Could you please test again? > > > If there is still a bug, please attach the log again. > > > > > > > > > On 02/17/2014 12:30 PM, Phil Davies wrote: > > > > Log attached. Yes, the options window opens, in fact, it > > opens > > > normally > > > > and it's still 'clickable' whilst the splash screen is > > showing. The > > > > game setup screen never goes away > > > > > > > > > > > > On 17 February 2014 11:26, Stefan Frey <ste...@we... > > <mailto:ste...@we...> > > > <mailto:ste...@we... <mailto:ste...@we...>> > > > > <mailto:ste...@we... <mailto:ste...@we...> > > <mailto:ste...@we... <mailto:ste...@we...>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > Phil: > > > > thanks for your report. I wonder if it is possible to > > setup > > > Windows Java > > > > under Wine for testing reasons only ;-) ... > > > > > > > > Seems that it did not fix the bug or there is another > > similar > > > one. > > > > > > > > Could you please send me your 18xx.log and check if > game > > > options show up > > > > after you press the Options button on the Start Window? > > > > > > > > Thanks for your help. > > > > Stefan > > > > > > > > > > > > On 02/17/2014 11:35 AM, Phil Davies wrote: > > > > > I've lowered my security settings on Windos and > > it's at least > > > > launching > > > > > now, but I can't start a game. I get the 'Rails > > 2.0.alpha2+' > > > > > splashscreenj but it just halts at 0%. Trying to > > start a > > > game of > > > > 1830 > > > > > with default selections and 2 players > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 17 February 2014 09:45, Stefan Frey > > <ste...@we... <mailto:ste...@we...> > > > <mailto:ste...@we... <mailto:ste...@we...>> > > > > <mailto:ste...@we... <mailto:ste...@we...> > > <mailto:ste...@we... <mailto:ste...@we...>>> > > > > > <mailto:ste...@we... > > <mailto:ste...@we...> <mailto:ste...@we... > > <mailto:ste...@we...>> > > > <mailto:ste...@we... <mailto:ste...@we...> > > <mailto:ste...@we... <mailto:ste...@we...>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The second alpha release (hopefully) fixes the > > bug on > > > Windows > > > > OS that > > > > > did prevent starting new games. > > > > > Please keep on testing. > > > > > The third alpha should include full token laying > > > support and > > > > most likely > > > > > first results of 1880 integration. > > > > > Stefan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 > > > > > Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime > for > > > Android apps. > > > > > Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, > Mapview > > > and more. > > > > > Get your Android app in front of a whole new > > audience. > > > Start > > > > now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Rails-devel mailing list > > > > > Rai...@li... > > <mailto:Rai...@li...> > > > <mailto:Rai...@li... > > <mailto:Rai...@li...>> > > > > <mailto:Rai...@li... > > <mailto:Rai...@li...> > > > <mailto:Rai...@li... > > <mailto:Rai...@li...>>> > > > > > <mailto:Rai...@li... > > <mailto:Rai...@li...> > > > <mailto:Rai...@li... > > <mailto:Rai...@li...>> > > > > <mailto:Rai...@li... > > <mailto:Rai...@li...> > > > <mailto:Rai...@li... > > <mailto:Rai...@li...>>>> > > > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 > > > > > Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for > > Android > > > apps. > > > > > Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview > > and more. > > > > > Get your Android app in front of a whole new > audience. > > > Start now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Rails-devel mailing list > > > > > Rai...@li... > > <mailto:Rai...@li...> > > > <mailto:Rai...@li... > > <mailto:Rai...@li...>> > > > > <mailto:Rai...@li... > > <mailto:Rai...@li...> > > > <mailto:Rai...@li... > > <mailto:Rai...@li...>>> > > > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 > > > > Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for > > Android apps. > > > > Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview > > and more. > > > > Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. > > Start > > > now. > > > > > > > > > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Rails-devel mailing list > > > > Rai...@li... > > <mailto:Rai...@li...> > > > <mailto:Rai...@li... > > <mailto:Rai...@li...>> > > > > <mailto:Rai...@li... > > <mailto:Rai...@li...> > > > <mailto:Rai...@li... > > <mailto:Rai...@li...>>> > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 > > > > Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android > > apps. > > > > Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and > more. > > > > Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. > > Start now. > > > > > > > > > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Rails-devel mailing list > > > > Rai...@li... > > <mailto:Rai...@li...> > > > <mailto:Rai...@li... > > <mailto:Rai...@li...>> > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 > > > Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android > apps. > > > Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. > > > Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start > > now. > > > > > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Rails-devel mailing list > > > Rai...@li... > > <mailto:Rai...@li...> > > > <mailto:Rai...@li... > > <mailto:Rai...@li...>> > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 > > > Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. > > > Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. > > > Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. > > > > > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Rails-devel mailing list > > > Rai...@li... > > <mailto:Rai...@li...> > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 > > Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. > > Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. > > Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. > > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails-devel mailing list > > Rai...@li... > > <mailto:Rai...@li...> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 > > Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. > > Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. > > Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. > > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails-devel mailing list > > Rai...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 > Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. > Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. > Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Rails-devel mailing list > Rai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > |
From: Stefan F. <ste...@we...> - 2014-02-17 15:36:36
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OK, you were running the old version. I have not fully checked how the current Oracle Webstart tests for new versions. Using IcedTea Webstart on Linux recognizes that there is a new jar on the server. I now force a reload by renaming the rails jar even for those intermediate versions. So if you are able to receive the new jnlp, it should work now. (however it can still be cache/proxy etc.) Could you pleas try again? On 02/17/2014 03:08 PM, Phil Davies wrote: > It's the webstart version I'm testing, I did redownload the .JNLP and > have just done so again, but It's coming up with the same error so I'm > wondering if something else odd is happening and maybe it's not sending > me an updated JNLP file? > > > > > On 17 February 2014 13:01, Stefan Frey <ste...@we... > <mailto:ste...@we...>> wrote: > > Yes, but it should have been fixed with my previous change. > Did you run via Webstart or via the jar from the file section? > > I have updated the webstart version only, that shows in the log if you > have used the updated version. > > Could you please try again? > > Thanks! > > On 02/17/2014 01:00 PM, Phil Davies wrote: > > Same, I'm guessing this is the culprit: > > > > 2014-02-17 12:00:15 DEBUG Locate fullPath=data\1830/TileSet.xml > > > > > > > > > > On 17 February 2014 11:54, Stefan Frey <ste...@we... > <mailto:ste...@we...> > > <mailto:ste...@we... <mailto:ste...@we...>>> wrote: > > > > Thanks. Both the behavior and the log confirmed that this is > a related > > but different bug. I have updated the webstart contents > (however not the > > jar in the file section). > > > > This loading difference between Resources (always "/") and > Files (OS > > specific separators) is a subtle issue. > > > > Could you please test again? > > If there is still a bug, please attach the log again. > > > > > > On 02/17/2014 12:30 PM, Phil Davies wrote: > > > Log attached. Yes, the options window opens, in fact, it > opens > > normally > > > and it's still 'clickable' whilst the splash screen is > showing. The > > > game setup screen never goes away > > > > > > > > > On 17 February 2014 11:26, Stefan Frey <ste...@we... > <mailto:ste...@we...> > > <mailto:ste...@we... <mailto:ste...@we...>> > > > <mailto:ste...@we... <mailto:ste...@we...> > <mailto:ste...@we... <mailto:ste...@we...>>>> wrote: > > > > > > Phil: > > > thanks for your report. I wonder if it is possible to > setup > > Windows Java > > > under Wine for testing reasons only ;-) ... > > > > > > Seems that it did not fix the bug or there is another > similar > > one. > > > > > > Could you please send me your 18xx.log and check if game > > options show up > > > after you press the Options button on the Start Window? > > > > > > Thanks for your help. > > > Stefan > > > > > > > > > On 02/17/2014 11:35 AM, Phil Davies wrote: > > > > I've lowered my security settings on Windos and > it's at least > > > launching > > > > now, but I can't start a game. I get the 'Rails > 2.0.alpha2+' > > > > splashscreenj but it just halts at 0%. Trying to > start a > > game of > > > 1830 > > > > with default selections and 2 players > > > > > > > > > > > > On 17 February 2014 09:45, Stefan Frey > <ste...@we... <mailto:ste...@we...> > > <mailto:ste...@we... <mailto:ste...@we...>> > > > <mailto:ste...@we... <mailto:ste...@we...> > <mailto:ste...@we... <mailto:ste...@we...>>> > > > > <mailto:ste...@we... > <mailto:ste...@we...> <mailto:ste...@we... > <mailto:ste...@we...>> > > <mailto:ste...@we... <mailto:ste...@we...> > <mailto:ste...@we... <mailto:ste...@we...>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > The second alpha release (hopefully) fixes the > bug on > > Windows > > > OS that > > > > did prevent starting new games. > > > > Please keep on testing. > > > > The third alpha should include full token laying > > support and > > > most likely > > > > first results of 1880 integration. > > > > Stefan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 > > > > Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for > > Android apps. > > > > Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview > > and more. > > > > Get your Android app in front of a whole new > audience. > > Start > > > now. > > > > > > > > > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Rails-devel mailing list > > > > Rai...@li... > <mailto:Rai...@li...> > > <mailto:Rai...@li... > <mailto:Rai...@li...>> > > > <mailto:Rai...@li... > <mailto:Rai...@li...> > > <mailto:Rai...@li... > <mailto:Rai...@li...>>> > > > > <mailto:Rai...@li... > <mailto:Rai...@li...> > > <mailto:Rai...@li... > <mailto:Rai...@li...>> > > > <mailto:Rai...@li... > <mailto:Rai...@li...> > > <mailto:Rai...@li... > <mailto:Rai...@li...>>>> > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 > > > > Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for > Android > > apps. > > > > Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview > and more. > > > > Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. > > Start now. > > > > > > > > > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Rails-devel mailing list > > > > Rai...@li... > <mailto:Rai...@li...> > > <mailto:Rai...@li... > <mailto:Rai...@li...>> > > > <mailto:Rai...@li... > <mailto:Rai...@li...> > > <mailto:Rai...@li... > <mailto:Rai...@li...>>> > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 > > > Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for > Android apps. > > > Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview > and more. > > > Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. > Start > > now. > > > > > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Rails-devel mailing list > > > Rai...@li... > <mailto:Rai...@li...> > > <mailto:Rai...@li... > <mailto:Rai...@li...>> > > > <mailto:Rai...@li... > <mailto:Rai...@li...> > > <mailto:Rai...@li... > <mailto:Rai...@li...>>> > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 > > > Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android > apps. > > > Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. > > > Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. > Start now. > > > > > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Rails-devel mailing list > > > Rai...@li... > <mailto:Rai...@li...> > > <mailto:Rai...@li... > <mailto:Rai...@li...>> > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 > > Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. > > Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. > > Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start > now. > > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails-devel mailing list > > Rai...@li... > <mailto:Rai...@li...> > > <mailto:Rai...@li... > <mailto:Rai...@li...>> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 > > Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. > > Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. > > Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. > > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails-devel mailing list > > Rai...@li... > <mailto:Rai...@li...> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 > Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. > Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. > Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Rails-devel mailing list > Rai...@li... > <mailto:Rai...@li...> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 > Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. > Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. > Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rails-devel mailing list > Rai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > |
From: Stefan F. <ste...@we...> - 2014-02-17 13:01:20
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Yes, but it should have been fixed with my previous change. Did you run via Webstart or via the jar from the file section? I have updated the webstart version only, that shows in the log if you have used the updated version. Could you please try again? Thanks! On 02/17/2014 01:00 PM, Phil Davies wrote: > Same, I'm guessing this is the culprit: > > 2014-02-17 12:00:15 DEBUG Locate fullPath=data\1830/TileSet.xml > > > > > On 17 February 2014 11:54, Stefan Frey <ste...@we... > <mailto:ste...@we...>> wrote: > > Thanks. Both the behavior and the log confirmed that this is a related > but different bug. I have updated the webstart contents (however not the > jar in the file section). > > This loading difference between Resources (always "/") and Files (OS > specific separators) is a subtle issue. > > Could you please test again? > If there is still a bug, please attach the log again. > > > On 02/17/2014 12:30 PM, Phil Davies wrote: > > Log attached. Yes, the options window opens, in fact, it opens > normally > > and it's still 'clickable' whilst the splash screen is showing. The > > game setup screen never goes away > > > > > > On 17 February 2014 11:26, Stefan Frey <ste...@we... > <mailto:ste...@we...> > > <mailto:ste...@we... <mailto:ste...@we...>>> wrote: > > > > Phil: > > thanks for your report. I wonder if it is possible to setup > Windows Java > > under Wine for testing reasons only ;-) ... > > > > Seems that it did not fix the bug or there is another similar > one. > > > > Could you please send me your 18xx.log and check if game > options show up > > after you press the Options button on the Start Window? > > > > Thanks for your help. > > Stefan > > > > > > On 02/17/2014 11:35 AM, Phil Davies wrote: > > > I've lowered my security settings on Windos and it's at least > > launching > > > now, but I can't start a game. I get the 'Rails 2.0.alpha2+' > > > splashscreenj but it just halts at 0%. Trying to start a > game of > > 1830 > > > with default selections and 2 players > > > > > > > > > On 17 February 2014 09:45, Stefan Frey <ste...@we... > <mailto:ste...@we...> > > <mailto:ste...@we... <mailto:ste...@we...>> > > > <mailto:ste...@we... <mailto:ste...@we...> > <mailto:ste...@we... <mailto:ste...@we...>>>> wrote: > > > > > > The second alpha release (hopefully) fixes the bug on > Windows > > OS that > > > did prevent starting new games. > > > Please keep on testing. > > > The third alpha should include full token laying > support and > > most likely > > > first results of 1880 integration. > > > Stefan > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 > > > Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for > Android apps. > > > Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview > and more. > > > Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. > Start > > now. > > > > > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Rails-devel mailing list > > > Rai...@li... > <mailto:Rai...@li...> > > <mailto:Rai...@li... > <mailto:Rai...@li...>> > > > <mailto:Rai...@li... > <mailto:Rai...@li...> > > <mailto:Rai...@li... > <mailto:Rai...@li...>>> > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 > > > Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android > apps. > > > Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. > > > Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. > Start now. > > > > > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Rails-devel mailing list > > > Rai...@li... > <mailto:Rai...@li...> > > <mailto:Rai...@li... > <mailto:Rai...@li...>> > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 > > Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. > > Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. > > Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start > now. > > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails-devel mailing list > > Rai...@li... > <mailto:Rai...@li...> > > <mailto:Rai...@li... > <mailto:Rai...@li...>> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 > > Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. > > Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. > > Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. 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From: Stefan F. <ste...@we...> - 2014-02-17 11:54:52
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Thanks. Both the behavior and the log confirmed that this is a related but different bug. I have updated the webstart contents (however not the jar in the file section). This loading difference between Resources (always "/") and Files (OS specific separators) is a subtle issue. Could you please test again? If there is still a bug, please attach the log again. On 02/17/2014 12:30 PM, Phil Davies wrote: > Log attached. Yes, the options window opens, in fact, it opens normally > and it's still 'clickable' whilst the splash screen is showing. The > game setup screen never goes away > > > On 17 February 2014 11:26, Stefan Frey <ste...@we... > <mailto:ste...@we...>> wrote: > > Phil: > thanks for your report. I wonder if it is possible to setup Windows Java > under Wine for testing reasons only ;-) ... > > Seems that it did not fix the bug or there is another similar one. > > Could you please send me your 18xx.log and check if game options show up > after you press the Options button on the Start Window? > > Thanks for your help. > Stefan > > > On 02/17/2014 11:35 AM, Phil Davies wrote: > > I've lowered my security settings on Windos and it's at least > launching > > now, but I can't start a game. I get the 'Rails 2.0.alpha2+' > > splashscreenj but it just halts at 0%. Trying to start a game of > 1830 > > with default selections and 2 players > > > > > > On 17 February 2014 09:45, Stefan Frey <ste...@we... > <mailto:ste...@we...> > > <mailto:ste...@we... <mailto:ste...@we...>>> wrote: > > > > The second alpha release (hopefully) fixes the bug on Windows > OS that > > did prevent starting new games. > > Please keep on testing. > > The third alpha should include full token laying support and > most likely > > first results of 1880 integration. > > Stefan > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 > > Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. > > Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. > > Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start > now. > > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails-devel mailing list > > Rai...@li... > <mailto:Rai...@li...> > > <mailto:Rai...@li... > <mailto:Rai...@li...>> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 > > Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. > > Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. > > Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. > > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails-devel mailing list > > Rai...@li... > <mailto:Rai...@li...> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 > Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. > Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. > Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Rails-devel mailing list > Rai...@li... > <mailto:Rai...@li...> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 > Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. > Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. > Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rails-devel mailing list > Rai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > |
From: Stefan F. <ste...@we...> - 2014-02-17 11:26:48
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Phil: thanks for your report. I wonder if it is possible to setup Windows Java under Wine for testing reasons only ;-) ... Seems that it did not fix the bug or there is another similar one. Could you please send me your 18xx.log and check if game options show up after you press the Options button on the Start Window? Thanks for your help. Stefan On 02/17/2014 11:35 AM, Phil Davies wrote: > I've lowered my security settings on Windos and it's at least launching > now, but I can't start a game. I get the 'Rails 2.0.alpha2+' > splashscreenj but it just halts at 0%. Trying to start a game of 1830 > with default selections and 2 players > > > On 17 February 2014 09:45, Stefan Frey <ste...@we... > <mailto:ste...@we...>> wrote: > > The second alpha release (hopefully) fixes the bug on Windows OS that > did prevent starting new games. > Please keep on testing. > The third alpha should include full token laying support and most likely > first results of 1880 integration. > Stefan > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 > Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. > Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. > Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Rails-devel mailing list > Rai...@li... > <mailto:Rai...@li...> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 > Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. > Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. > Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rails-devel mailing list > Rai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > |
From: Phil D. <de...@gm...> - 2014-02-17 10:35:49
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I've lowered my security settings on Windos and it's at least launching now, but I can't start a game. I get the 'Rails 2.0.alpha2+' splashscreenj but it just halts at 0%. Trying to start a game of 1830 with default selections and 2 players On 17 February 2014 09:45, Stefan Frey <ste...@we...> wrote: > The second alpha release (hopefully) fixes the bug on Windows OS that > did prevent starting new games. > Please keep on testing. > The third alpha should include full token laying support and most likely > first results of 1880 integration. > Stefan > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 > Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. > Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. > Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Rails-devel mailing list > Rai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > |
From: Stefan F. <ste...@we...> - 2014-02-17 09:45:59
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The second alpha release (hopefully) fixes the bug on Windows OS that did prevent starting new games. Please keep on testing. The third alpha should include full token laying support and most likely first results of 1880 integration. Stefan |
From: Martin B. <dr....@t-...> - 2014-02-16 18:19:08
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Am 16.02.2014 18:49, schrieb Martin Brumm: > > On 16.02.2014 17:45, Martin Brumm wrote: >> Am 16.02.2014 15:51, schrieb Stefan Frey: >>> Martin & Mike: >>> I have some troubles with the rails_2_develop_1880 branch: On my system >>> there are several compile errors (12) in this branch, that do not seem >>> to be linked to the issue discussed below. >>> Are you sure you pushed everything to this branch? >>> Stefan >>> >>> On 02/10/2014 02:58 PM, Michael Alexander wrote: >>>> The reason I did that originally was to determine when a foreign >>>> investor was connected to it's parent company. I was having trouble >>>> with the existing implementation because it was "connecting" through an >>>> off-map station (going in one side and out the other). I had thought at >>>> the time that there was no other way I could do it. >>>> >>>> As it turns out, a handful of weeks after that, I noticed that the >>>> off-map station was defined wrong in the XML. I suspect that once it >>>> was defined correctly (which I did), that the original >>>> NetworkCompanyGraph would have worked - but I wasn't sure it was worth >>>> changing it back until 2.0. >>>> >>>> The function that has to work is Investor_1880::isConnectedtoLinkedCompany() >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> Good Evening, >> >> @Stefan: I found in my migration effort that certain Fixes/Enhancement >> Erik had done to the basis code to enable flexible handling of player >> ordering (reordering the seating of players) had not been pushed to the >> rails 2 branch, you probably cherry picked the fixes and didnt transport >> the 1880 related improvements at that time. >> >> The compile errors come mostly from that parts thats currently in >> migration into the 2_develop_1880 branch. >> >> I didnt have enough time this weekend to fix everything there. Hopefully >> i'll find some time tonight or on the week. >> Reason why i pushed that code is, i use different machines to work >> during weekdays or weekends on that branch. >> >> Regards, >> Martin >> >> >> >> > The commit in question is > Commit e5581e31305d172a7ff5d68ede5e5fe0207165bc from Erik. > > Regards, > Martin > Upon revisiting the code: Commit b95fd7fd0bf822a8f22a8f275166402ca7c3a9f701ef9 is also not in Rails 2.0. It added the basic feature to be able to reorder players and some mechanismn to display those changes in the UI. Any advice on how to proceed here ? Regards, Martin |
From: Martin B. <dr....@t-...> - 2014-02-16 17:49:41
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On 16.02.2014 17:45, Martin Brumm wrote: > Am 16.02.2014 15:51, schrieb Stefan Frey: >> Martin & Mike: >> I have some troubles with the rails_2_develop_1880 branch: On my system >> there are several compile errors (12) in this branch, that do not seem >> to be linked to the issue discussed below. >> Are you sure you pushed everything to this branch? >> Stefan >> >> On 02/10/2014 02:58 PM, Michael Alexander wrote: >>> The reason I did that originally was to determine when a foreign >>> investor was connected to it's parent company. I was having trouble >>> with the existing implementation because it was "connecting" through an >>> off-map station (going in one side and out the other). I had thought at >>> the time that there was no other way I could do it. >>> >>> As it turns out, a handful of weeks after that, I noticed that the >>> off-map station was defined wrong in the XML. I suspect that once it >>> was defined correctly (which I did), that the original >>> NetworkCompanyGraph would have worked - but I wasn't sure it was worth >>> changing it back until 2.0. >>> >>> The function that has to work is Investor_1880::isConnectedtoLinkedCompany() >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> >>> >>> > > Good Evening, > > @Stefan: I found in my migration effort that certain Fixes/Enhancement > Erik had done to the basis code to enable flexible handling of player > ordering (reordering the seating of players) had not been pushed to the > rails 2 branch, you probably cherry picked the fixes and didnt transport > the 1880 related improvements at that time. > > The compile errors come mostly from that parts thats currently in > migration into the 2_develop_1880 branch. > > I didnt have enough time this weekend to fix everything there. Hopefully > i'll find some time tonight or on the week. > Reason why i pushed that code is, i use different machines to work > during weekdays or weekends on that branch. > > Regards, > Martin > > > > The commit in question is Commit e5581e31305d172a7ff5d68ede5e5fe0207165bc from Erik. Regards, Martin |
From: Stefan F. <ste...@we...> - 2014-02-16 16:47:29
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I had the opportunity to test the alpha release on a Windows system. - I realized that it will not start a new game as the GameOptions are not loaded correctly on Windows. Interestingly it was the fact that I used the OS dependent File separators here, however for using the ResourceLoader Java uses the standard Unix separator, thus it was wrong on Windows. - If you use the latest Java update, it is necessary to add the rails sourceforge webpage to the list of exceptions to use Webstart. It must include the protocol (thus http://rails.sourceforge.net) is correct. For more information: http://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/technotes/guides/jweb/security/exception_site_list.html - To avoid have the user allow an exception, a code signing certificate is required. However I have not found a certificate agency which seems to be trustable and requires no fee. But I hope that might change in the future as there are might be more projects that require code signing certificates. One good news however is that the whole build process both for creating the one-jar release version and the webstart signed multi-jar is fully automated via the gradle build script. I definitely recommend have a look at gradle as a build tool. It was also adopted by google as the build tool for apps on Android. Stefan |
From: Martin B. <dr....@t-...> - 2014-02-16 16:45:19
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Am 16.02.2014 15:51, schrieb Stefan Frey: > Martin & Mike: > I have some troubles with the rails_2_develop_1880 branch: On my system > there are several compile errors (12) in this branch, that do not seem > to be linked to the issue discussed below. > Are you sure you pushed everything to this branch? > Stefan > > On 02/10/2014 02:58 PM, Michael Alexander wrote: >> The reason I did that originally was to determine when a foreign >> investor was connected to it's parent company. I was having trouble >> with the existing implementation because it was "connecting" through an >> off-map station (going in one side and out the other). I had thought at >> the time that there was no other way I could do it. >> >> As it turns out, a handful of weeks after that, I noticed that the >> off-map station was defined wrong in the XML. I suspect that once it >> was defined correctly (which I did), that the original >> NetworkCompanyGraph would have worked - but I wasn't sure it was worth >> changing it back until 2.0. >> >> The function that has to work is Investor_1880::isConnectedtoLinkedCompany() >> >> Mike >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 5:17 AM, Stefan Frey <ste...@we... >> <mailto:ste...@we...>> wrote: >> >> Martin & Mike: >> I can do later today, however could someone of you remind me for what >> reason you have sub-classed NetworkCompanyGraph? I have done some >> changes in Rails 2.0 to those classes to support tile laying and usually >> it is better to use the interfaces (here most likely the >> NetworkGraphModifier) instead of sub-classes. >> Stefan >> >> >> On 02/09/2014 11:31 PM, Michael Alexander wrote: >> > I'll take a look, but it will probably not be until mid-week. >> > >> > Mike >> > >> > >> > On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 2:53 PM, Martin Brumm >> > <dr....@t-... <mailto:dr....@t-...> >> <mailto:dr....@t-... >> <mailto:dr....@t-...>>> wrote: >> > >> > Hi Stefan, Brett, Erik, Mike & Rest of the crew, >> > >> > i created a branch of Rails_2_develop called >> Rails_2_develop_1880 since >> > i didnt want to mess with Stefans work. >> > In that branch if i assume right that Stefan started from >> 1.7.12 with >> > his work in Rails_2_develop everything but some local side >> projects by >> > me (1824, 1837) has been rebased from 1.8.7+ on Rails 2.0. >> Three bugs >> > remain that i cant fix with my current understanding of the >> Network >> > Code :). >> > >> > public SimpleGraph<NetworkVertex, NetworkEdge> >> > createConnectionGraph(boolean addHQ) { >> > >> > in NetworkCompanyGraph_1880 contains 3 bug indications. If >> anyone so >> > brave could have a look at the code and fix that, it should >> be ready for >> > extensive testing with a number of save files :) >> > >> > Kind Regards, >> > Martin >> > >> > >> > >> Good Evening, @Stefan: I found in my migration effort that certain Fixes/Enhancement Erik had done to the basis code to enable flexible handling of player ordering (reordering the seating of players) had not been pushed to the rails 2 branch, you probably cherry picked the fixes and didnt transport the 1880 related improvements at that time. The compile errors come mostly from that parts thats currently in migration into the 2_develop_1880 branch. I didnt have enough time this weekend to fix everything there. Hopefully i'll find some time tonight or on the week. Reason why i pushed that code is, i use different machines to work during weekdays or weekends on that branch. Regards, Martin |
From: Stefan F. <ste...@we...> - 2014-02-16 14:52:19
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Martin & Mike: I have some troubles with the rails_2_develop_1880 branch: On my system there are several compile errors (12) in this branch, that do not seem to be linked to the issue discussed below. Are you sure you pushed everything to this branch? Stefan On 02/10/2014 02:58 PM, Michael Alexander wrote: > The reason I did that originally was to determine when a foreign > investor was connected to it's parent company. I was having trouble > with the existing implementation because it was "connecting" through an > off-map station (going in one side and out the other). I had thought at > the time that there was no other way I could do it. > > As it turns out, a handful of weeks after that, I noticed that the > off-map station was defined wrong in the XML. I suspect that once it > was defined correctly (which I did), that the original > NetworkCompanyGraph would have worked - but I wasn't sure it was worth > changing it back until 2.0. > > The function that has to work is Investor_1880::isConnectedtoLinkedCompany() > > Mike > > > > > On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 5:17 AM, Stefan Frey <ste...@we... > <mailto:ste...@we...>> wrote: > > Martin & Mike: > I can do later today, however could someone of you remind me for what > reason you have sub-classed NetworkCompanyGraph? I have done some > changes in Rails 2.0 to those classes to support tile laying and usually > it is better to use the interfaces (here most likely the > NetworkGraphModifier) instead of sub-classes. > Stefan > > > On 02/09/2014 11:31 PM, Michael Alexander wrote: > > I'll take a look, but it will probably not be until mid-week. > > > > Mike > > > > > > On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 2:53 PM, Martin Brumm > > <dr....@t-... <mailto:dr....@t-...> > <mailto:dr....@t-... > <mailto:dr....@t-...>>> wrote: > > > > Hi Stefan, Brett, Erik, Mike & Rest of the crew, > > > > i created a branch of Rails_2_develop called > Rails_2_develop_1880 since > > i didnt want to mess with Stefans work. > > In that branch if i assume right that Stefan started from > 1.7.12 with > > his work in Rails_2_develop everything but some local side > projects by > > me (1824, 1837) has been rebased from 1.8.7+ on Rails 2.0. > Three bugs > > remain that i cant fix with my current understanding of the > Network > > Code :). > > > > public SimpleGraph<NetworkVertex, NetworkEdge> > > createConnectionGraph(boolean addHQ) { > > > > in NetworkCompanyGraph_1880 contains 3 bug indications. If > anyone so > > brave could have a look at the code and fix that, it should > be ready for > > extensive testing with a number of save files :) > > > > Kind Regards, > > Martin > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications > > Take advantage of what the Cloud has to offer - Avoid Common > Pitfalls. > > Read the Whitepaper. > > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=121051231&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails-devel mailing list > > Rai...@li... > <mailto:Rai...@li...> > > <mailto:Rai...@li... > <mailto:Rai...@li...>> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications > Take advantage of what the Cloud has to offer - Avoid Common Pitfalls. > Read the Whitepaper. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=121051231&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Rails-devel mailing list > Rai...@li... > <mailto:Rai...@li...> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications > Take advantage of what the Cloud has to offer - Avoid Common Pitfalls. > Read the Whitepaper. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=121051231&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rails-devel mailing list > Rai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > |
From: James R. <rom...@gm...> - 2014-02-11 18:11:23
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I'd appreciate that, whenever you get to it. Jim On 2/10/2014 2:00 PM, Tom McCorry wrote: > I can send when I am home this evening. > Sent via BlackBerry > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From: * James Romano <rom...@gm...> > *Date: *Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:58:46 -0600 > *To: *<tom...@gm...>; Development list for Rails: an 18xx > game<rai...@li...> > *Subject: *Re: [Rails-devel] double-clicking to run? > > Hi Tom, > > I could associate the .rails type to the .bat file that runs rails via > the java command. I think I could also set it up so that > double-clicking on the .rails file passes the save file (.rails file) > name to the .bat file and so that the .bat file would then pass the > the save file name into the java command somehow. Does the java > command allow such an argument, would it be passed along to Rails in a > sensible way, and would Rails interpret it as a save file to load? I > take it from your success that your answers to all those questions are > "yes." > > Could you share the java command used in your batch file so that I may > see how the file name argument should be passed along? > > Jim > > > On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Tom McCorry <tom...@gm... > <mailto:tom...@gm...>> wrote: > > I have a batch file I use with Windows that I associate with the > .rails file type. This allows me to double-click on a .rails file > no matter what directory it resides in and have the Rails program > autostart. > > Sent via BlackBerry > > -----Original Message----- > From: James Romano <rom...@gm... > <mailto:rom...@gm...>> > Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 12:33:26 > To: Development list for Rails: an 18xx > game<rai...@li... > <mailto:rai...@li...>> > Reply-To: "Development list for Rails: an 18xx game" > <rai...@li... > <mailto:rai...@li...>> > Subject: [Rails-devel] double-clicking to run? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Androi apps run on BlackBerry 10 > Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. > Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. > Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Androi apps run on BlackBerry 10 > Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. > Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. > Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Rails-devel mailing list > Rai...@li... > <mailto:Rai...@li...> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > |
From: Stefan F. <ste...@we...> - 2014-02-10 20:04:39
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Thanks, Phil. It seems that Oracle in their latest release of Java (7, update 51 in Jan 2014) increased security-requirements for Webstart applications, that does not allow self-signed Webstart applications to be installed (which I consider as a good thing). I have not explored how to get CA certificate and if there institutions that provide them without a fee involved, maybe some of you have a recommendation? This will be the way to go. However there is workaround mentioned in the reference below: Just go to Java Control Panel -> Security -> Edit Site List, and add the URL of the self-signed JNLP app to the list of Locations. Reference: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19481826/java-7u51-will-not-accept- jnlp-with-self-signed-certificate On 02/10/2014 08:51 PM, Phil Davies wrote: > I get the following error: > > Your security settings have blocked a self-signed application from running. > > Inline images 1 > > > On 10 February 2014 19:43, Stefan Frey <ste...@we... > <mailto:ste...@we...>> wrote: > > In principle Webstart allows to set some OS association like desktop > icon, start menu entry and file association. However this is all > optional, thus it depends on the Webstart implementation. > > I have added those options to an experimental webstart-file. > > Copy or click on the following link to try this: > > http://rails.sf.net/webstart/rails_desktop.jnlp > > With IcedTea OpenJDK Webstart on my Linux system it does nothing. > However this might be different on Windows or Mac OS with Oracle JREs. > > Would be great to get some feed back, if and what this achieves on other > systems. > > Stefan > > > On 02/10/2014 07:33 PM, James Romano wrote: > > Is it possible to set up save game files (.rails) so that > > double-clicking on them starts the Rails program and loads in the > save? > > > > If so, are there reasonably detailed instructions (possibly > OS-specific) > > on how to make it work? > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Androi apps run on BlackBerry 10 > > Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. > > Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. > > Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. > > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails-devel mailing list > > Rai...@li... > <mailto:Rai...@li...> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Androi apps run on BlackBerry 10 > Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. > Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. > Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Rails-devel mailing list > Rai...@li... > <mailto:Rai...@li...> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Androi apps run on BlackBerry 10 > Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. > Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. > Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rails-devel mailing list > Rai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel > |