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Re: [pilot-db-list] More beta 8 buglets

[Fab <kr...@bi...>]

> possible :-) Also, any chance the number of digits can be set per database
> or even per column? I could definitely use varying precision in some
> completely unrelated databases that I have.

	I second this.
	How borrying are users :-)))))))))))

	Fab.

Re: [pilot-db-list] More beta 8 buglets

[Fab <kr...@bi...>]

> If you have a better metric in mind, I will consider it, but it is 
> important that the display does not become hard to read.

	Just an idea : now that there is a separator line
coded in the core of DB, can't you make a "transparent"
separator (setable) and even a resizeable one ?
	BTW, I find 10 pixels a little to much. 4 should be
sufficient for me.

	Fab.

Re: [pilot-db-list] More beta 8 buglets

[Mike R. <mik...@al...>]

On Fri, 22 Feb 2002, marc-chalain wrote:

> Mike Ressler wrote:
> > 2) rebuilding a database causes the backup flag to be cleared.
>
> i don't understand. I tried with Palm Vx, Visor and Handera without
> trouble (backup bit on, change the database design, rebuild, check the

Perhaps then this only happens with the DBOld plugin. Rebuilding a DB2
database definitely cleared the backup bit. I didn't try rebuilding a DB3
database, so maybe things are okay there.

Okay, I just did a quick check. DB3 works correctly, so it must be
something specific to the DBOld module.

> 3) ... like the previous, now when you create a new database the
> backup bit is on. i verified this feature.

I withdraw my complaint :-)

Mike

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Re: [pilot-db-list] More beta 8 buglets

[Mike R. <mik...@al...>]

On Fri, 22 Feb 2002, Scott Wallace wrote:
> > 4) The floating type seems to be padded by several spaces on the right
> > hand side. I.e. when adjusting the view, there is always about 10 pixels
> > of white space after the 1 decimal place I set. If I attempt to squeeze
> > the white space, then numbers change to "..." indicating it doesn't fit.
>
> Yes, this is true.  There is a 10 pixel margin on the right side of a
> float column.  If there is no margin, what happens is that the float is
> directly adjacent to the value in the next column (since most columns are
> left justified) ...
> you could make the margin disappear as the the column becomes increasingly
> full.  But this requires calculating the max width overall columns, which
> is too slow.  So instead, I just use a constant value.

Is it that slow? I guess the real question is how often the value would
have to be recalculated. If it can be calculated only when the DB is
opened, it should be tolerable. (You may then have to close and reopen the
database to get it to update correctly.) I would think that calculating
the maximum width of one of the elements, right justifying each element
within this box width, then _left_ justifying boxes within the column
based on the width given in the list view would be the best way to attack
this.

> If you have a better metric in mind, I will consider it, but it is
> important that the display does not become hard to read.

As a lower order step, what about an extra parameter next to the "number
of digits" selection which sets the padding space (default 10)? That way,
you can keep your fixed width, and I can smash my data as close as
possible :-) Also, any chance the number of digits can be set per database
or even per column? I could definitely use varying precision in some
completely unrelated databases that I have.

Mike

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[pilot-db-list] PILOT-DB 0.3.4 BETA 8

[Fototex S.r.l. <fo...@io...>]

TRYING TO USE CALCULATED FIELDS. CAN'T FIND INSTRUCTIONS ABOUT SCRIPTS. =
HELP SCREEN STATES : " $$HELP_SCRIPT " AND THAT'S ALL.

THANKS IN ADVANCE FOR HELP.

BRUNO.

Re: [pilot-db-list] More beta 8 buglets

[Scott W. <swa...@my...>]

> 4) The floating type seems to be padded by several spaces on the right
> hand side. I.e. when adjusting the view, there is always about 10 pixels
> of white space after the 1 decimal place I set. If I attempt to squeeze
> the white space, then numbers change to "..." indicating it doesn't fit.


Yes, this is true.  There is a 10 pixel margin on the right side of a 
float column.  If there is no margin, what happens is that the float is 
directly adjacent to the value in the next column (since most columns are 
left justified).  This makes the display confusing, since it is hard to 
distinguish where the columns start and end.

The trade-off is to waste some of the space in the right justified column
(which should occur less frequently that left justified ones).  Ideally,
you could make the margin disappear as the the column becomes increasingly
full.  But this requires calculating the max width overall columns, which
is too slow.  So instead, I just use a constant value.


If you have a better metric in mind, I will consider it, but it is 
important that the display does not become hard to read.

	-Scott

Re: [pilot-db-list] More beta 8 buglets

[marc-chalain <mar...@wa...>]

Mike Ressler wrote:
> 
> 1) doing anything with the DBOld plugin seems to generate a chunk pointer
> crash upon exiting DB. (Palm IIIxe, OS 3.5.2)

we work on the plugins.

> 2) rebuilding a database causes the backup flag to be cleared.

i don't understand. I tried with Palm Vx, Visor and Handera without
trouble (backup bit on, change the database design, rebuild, check the
backup bit; backup bit on, return to the chooser, duplicate the
database, go in the new database, check the backup bit)

> 
> 3) related to #2, I find it extremely irritating that the default is to
> not backup a new database. If I didn't want to back it up, I wouldn't put
> it on my Palm!!! I had to do a hard reset on my Palm a couple of weeks
> ago, and found that a few databases which are months old disappeared
> because I forgot to reset the backup flag. Also, could this be put on the
> info page (and even setable) similar to the category information? It is
> way too buried in the menues for my taste.

like the previous, now when you create a new database the backup bit is
on. i verified this feature.

> 4) The floating type seems to be padded by several spaces on the right
> hand side. I.e. when adjusting the view, there is always about 10 pixels
> of white space after the 1 decimal place I set. If I attempt to squeeze
> the white space, then numbers change to "..." indicating it doesn't fit.

Scott added this margin i don't know his reason.

Re: [pilot-db-list] Beta 8

[Michael C. M. <mic...@ma...>]

I am using a Mac with OS X and OS 9.2.2 using the Palm Desktop 2.6.3 
software for OS 9. I also have Virtual PC with Win98 but have not tried 
hotsyncing with it yet.

Michael Miller
On Friday, February 22, 2002, at 05:15  AM, marc-chalain wrote:

> "Michael C. Miller" wrote:
>>
>> I have noticed some fairly consistent behavior with the beta 8 on a 
>> Palm
>> m105 with 3.5.2 Palm OS. I have verified it with the Palm emulator.
>>
>> -the MobileDB plugin causes resets after installed. After a couple of
>> resets it seems to settle down, and the following begin
>> -rescanning the the desktop causes a read from memory location error
>> 0xE47C003D causing a bus error. Removing the Mobile DB plugin seems to
>> fix the problem
>
> Scott corrected this bugs, i will update the plugins soon.
>
>> -deleting the db plugin and then touching the silk screened application
>> icon causes a SysFatalAlert with message "MemoryMgr.c, Line:4450,
>> Invalid chunk ptr" and bus error and reset
>
> i will see that.
>
>> -Databases created in DB format, backed up, and reinstalled onto the
>> palm are not readable/openable. I cannot reproduce this on the 
>> emulator,
>> the databases open fine in emulation when reinstalled.
>
> Which computer do you use? Windows, Linux or Mac. It seems to have some
> trouble with palmDesktop Mac version.

Re: [pilot-db-list] Beta 8

[marc-chalain <mar...@wa...>]

"Michael C. Miller" wrote:
> 
> I have noticed some fairly consistent behavior with the beta 8 on a Palm
> m105 with 3.5.2 Palm OS. I have verified it with the Palm emulator.
> 
> -the MobileDB plugin causes resets after installed. After a couple of
> resets it seems to settle down, and the following begin
> -rescanning the the desktop causes a read from memory location error
> 0xE47C003D causing a bus error. Removing the Mobile DB plugin seems to
> fix the problem

Scott corrected this bugs, i will update the plugins soon.

> -deleting the db plugin and then touching the silk screened application
> icon causes a SysFatalAlert with message "MemoryMgr.c, Line:4450,
> Invalid chunk ptr" and bus error and reset

i will see that.

> -Databases created in DB format, backed up, and reinstalled onto the
> palm are not readable/openable. I cannot reproduce this on the emulator,
> the databases open fine in emulation when reinstalled.

Which computer do you use? Windows, Linux or Mac. It seems to have some
trouble with palmDesktop Mac version.

Re: [pilot-db-list] More beta 8 buglets

[Mike R. <mik...@al...>]

On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Mike Ressler wrote:
> 1) doing anything with the DBOld plugin seems to generate a chunk pointer
> crash upon exiting DB. (Palm IIIxe, OS 3.5.2)

I should clarify that things work pretty well with old databases (one
caveat below) until I exit DB, then it crashes.

5) it is impossible to edit list views on DB 2.x databases. When I attempt
to do so, no "New" button appears, and there is no old view to click on to
choose "Edit".

Mike

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[pilot-db-list] More beta 8 buglets

[Mike R. <mik...@al...>]

1) doing anything with the DBOld plugin seems to generate a chunk pointer
crash upon exiting DB. (Palm IIIxe, OS 3.5.2)

2) rebuilding a database causes the backup flag to be cleared.

3) related to #2, I find it extremely irritating that the default is to
not backup a new database. If I didn't want to back it up, I wouldn't put
it on my Palm!!! I had to do a hard reset on my Palm a couple of weeks
ago, and found that a few databases which are months old disappeared
because I forgot to reset the backup flag. Also, could this be put on the
info page (and even setable) similar to the category information? It is
way too buried in the menues for my taste.

4) The floating type seems to be padded by several spaces on the right
hand side. I.e. when adjusting the view, there is always about 10 pixels
of white space after the 1 decimal place I set. If I attempt to squeeze
the white space, then numbers change to "..." indicating it doesn't fit.

Other than that, beta 8 is great! I'll probably finally switch over from
0.3.3. I especially like the color setting module to adjust the grays on
my IIIxe.

Mike

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[pilot-db-list] Display problems in 0.3.4 beta 8

[<aji...@t-...>]

Yes, I had the same problem. However, playing around with the
display settings and then setting them back to original cures it.

Once this is done the original erratic display behaviour cannot
be reproduced, probably making the bug dificult to trace.

I use a Palm M100 with OS 3.52

>Is anyone else getting weird displays?  The first thing I noticed was that
>the list of databases seemed to be double-spaced.  When I actually opened
>some records, I got really weird display problems - fields all over the
>place, huge characters, etc.

Re: [pilot-db-list] Beta 8

[Scott W. <swa...@my...>]

On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Michael C. Miller wrote:

> I have noticed some fairly consistent behavior with the beta 8 on a Palm 
> m105 with 3.5.2 Palm OS. I have verified it with the Palm emulator.
> 
> -the MobileDB plugin causes resets after installed. After a couple of 
> resets it seems to settle down, and the following begin
> -rescanning the the desktop causes a read from memory location error 
> 0xE47C003D causing a bus error. Removing the Mobile DB plugin seems to 
> fix the problem

	ok, I believe I have fixed this error.




> -Databases created in DB format, backed up, and reinstalled onto the 
> palm are not readable/openable. I cannot reproduce this on the emulator, 
> the databases open fine in emulation when reinstalled.
> 
	
	what machine are you hotsyncing to?  Windows Mac, Linux?




> I downloaded the beta 8 and the plugins 2/21/02
> 
> Michael Miller
> 
> 
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[pilot-db-list] Beta 8

[Michael C. M. <mic...@ma...>]

I have noticed some fairly consistent behavior with the beta 8 on a Palm 
m105 with 3.5.2 Palm OS. I have verified it with the Palm emulator.

-the MobileDB plugin causes resets after installed. After a couple of 
resets it seems to settle down, and the following begin
-rescanning the the desktop causes a read from memory location error 
0xE47C003D causing a bus error. Removing the Mobile DB plugin seems to 
fix the problem
-deleting the db plugin and then touching the silk screened application 
icon causes a SysFatalAlert with message "MemoryMgr.c, Line:4450, 
Invalid chunk ptr" and bus error and reset
-Databases created in DB format, backed up, and reinstalled onto the 
palm are not readable/openable. I cannot reproduce this on the emulator, 
the databases open fine in emulation when reinstalled.

I downloaded the beta 8 and the plugins 2/21/02

Michael Miller

Re: [pilot-db-list] Display problems in 0.3.4 beta 8

[Scott W. <swa...@my...>]

> Is anyone else getting weird displays?  The first thing I noticed was that
> the list of databases seemed to be double-spaced.  When I actually opened
> some records, I got really weird display problems - fields all over the
> place, huge characters, etc.
> 
> Reverting to beta 5 cured the problem.
> 
> 

	We need to know the type of your palm device and the version of 
your operating system at the very least, in order to have a hope of 
correcting bugs.

	-Scott

[pilot-db-list] Display problems in 0.3.4 beta 8

[Andrew T. <an...@aa...>]

Is anyone else getting weird displays?  The first thing I noticed was that
the list of databases seemed to be double-spaced.  When I actually opened
some records, I got really weird display problems - fields all over the
place, huge characters, etc.

Reverting to beta 5 cured the problem.



Andrew
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[pilot-db-list] db 0.3.3

[Cesare A. G. <pao...@ti...>]

Goodmorning i am an italian man and i look the italian version bat i don't
find it.where i can find it
thank you

Re: [pilot-db-list] Problems after Restore

[Lawrence S. <spr...@ya...>]

I use link fields a lot and have found this too.
The problem stems from the techniques used to set up the link.
DB uses a LIST database, refered to in the documentation as 'chooser
database'. This file is called DBdatabases.pdb and is NOT set to
backup. Nor is it easy to set the backup bit for this file. You need
to use a file utility such as "filez" or "gentleman" to even see the
file.
If you restore this file after the databases, it may work, but I
haven't tried that yet.

The problem is that DB stores only the 'DB Chooser ID' in the
database. The file name linked to is only stored in the
DBchooserDatabase. 

This way, any time you restore a database or upgrade the DB engine
the unique IDs can change resulting in broken links.

I hope that a future version will add the file name to the Link Field
Data Chunk.
--- Kaldewey Malte <Mal...@pd...> wrote:
> Hello,
> I've build a master db. In these db are some fields, who where
> linked to
> some sub db's. All works fine. But every time after a restore or an
> new
> installation of all db's (master and sub db) the links where lost.
> Is it a
> handling problem by myself or a bug? When it is my problem, which
> files must
> be saved or restored?
> 
> With best regards
> 
> Malte Kaldewey
> 
> 
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[pilot-db-list] Problems after Restore

[Kaldewey M. <Mal...@pd...>]

Hello,
I've build a master db. In these db are some fields, who where linked to
some sub db's. All works fine. But every time after a restore or an new
installation of all db's (master and sub db) the links where lost. Is it a
handling problem by myself or a bug? When it is my problem, which files must
be saved or restored?

With best regards

Malte Kaldewey

[pilot-db-list] Plugins corrections

[marc-chalain <mar...@wa...>]

i corrected the plugins:
 db-ColorSelect.prc
 db-informations.prc
 db-DB3vfs.prc

[pilot-db-list] DB 0.3.4 beta 8

[marc-chalain <mar...@wa...>]

Just some little modifications:
 1) in the plugin About box i added a "Delete" button, it works
 2) some Handera display modifications.
 3) i remove the plugins from the package, you should download each one
from the plugins sourceforge page (near the Pilot-DB download page). I
do that because I must correct the plugins without change the main
application.

Salut,
Marc.

RE: [pilot-db-list] Db v0.3.4Beta7

[KANE P. (CA) <Pet...@er...>]

I get a crash on startup with either the Mobile DB or Jfile plug-ins.

I also get a fatal error when you run the information plug-in from the =
list
view (I don't think it should be there, but it is).

The standard product db v0.3.4Beta7 seems rock-solid. Thanks Marc.

-----Original Message-----
From: Bj=F8rn Erik Lille=F8kseth =
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Sent: Wednesday, 20 February 2002 18:01
To: pil...@li...
Subject: [pilot-db-list] Db v0.3.4Beta7


Hi, I've had a quick look at this beta and have a question: Has anyone =
had
the plug-in module for MobilDb cause a "fatal......" chrash? Without =
the
plug-in Db works fine.

I'm using a Vx with OS 3.5.3

Regards
Bj=F8rn Erik





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Re: [pilot-db-list] db 0.3.4 beta 7

[Oliver G. <oli...@we...>]

Hi Marc!

marc-chalain wrote:

> All bugs corrected? i hope:)
> Perhaps the last beta version.
> BUGS:
>  ???


I just added a bug report on the sourceforge site:
<http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=det(ail&aid=520731&group_id=621&atid=100621>
([ #520731 ] Wrong background colors in filtered list)

I've seen this bug for quite some time, and I think I mentioned
it here once. But I think I didn't describe it very good then,
so I attached an image with screenshots to the bug report,
this should make clear what the problem is.

Cheers,
	Oliver

P.S.: It's not really a big deal, it just looks a bit ugly...


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Re: [pilot-db-list] hotsync DB 0.3.4beta7cas

[Larry K. T. <LK...@me...>]

There was a format change from 0.2 to 0.3.  You need the db2 plug-in.  HOWE=
VER I DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL WORK WITH 3.4.  I could not find this plug-in t=
he 3.4 zip file.  It is in the 0.3.3 zip file.

TRY IT AT YOUR OWN RISK.

The Database files have to be marked individually to be backed.

Larry



>>> "Helmut Wagner" <wa...@ti...> 02/20/02 11:56AM >>>
hi,
a few minutes ago I did an upgrade from version 0.2 to version 0.3.4.
starting the hotsync I found that there is no pdb-file in the
backup-directory.=20
anybody had the same effect?
without backup I have to go back to version 0.2
helmut


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[pilot-db-list] hotsync DB 0.3.4beta7cas !sorry!

[Helmut W. <wa...@ti...>]

I just found out, that I have to set the backup option.
sorry!