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[pilot-db-list] Which Version? + Bug

[<aji...@t-...>]

Re: various versions, I think it is a good idea to get the opinions
of the users and to then concentrate on one version.

Personally, I would prefer the Mobile_DB version, since there
is a desktop tool (that is free of charge till now) to make databases
(It would be great if we could get someone to make such a tool for DB!).

I would only prefer the iconic version if the icons have a
quick access text that appears after say 2 seconds explaining
what they do or, to save memory, if the icons explanation is
listed in the help dialog.

I, for example, do not understand the use of all the icons in the
record edit mode (although I made some of the icons!).

I still have the bug that if the string field called 'note' in the
SI_Units.PDB file that I made (available at the homepage)
is converted from string to note format and a certain (not all)
field is edited, I get a 'fatal exception'error. This could
have to do with the length of the text in the field.


But the MOST IMPORTANT point that I would like to make here is
that Pilot-DB is a FANTASTIC program and that I would especially
like to thank Tom Dyas and Marc Chalain for their efforts and
also for their exceptional feedback to our queries and critisism!!!!

Thanks,

Hans.



mit vielen Grüßen aus Brüggen-Bracht
aji...@t-...

[pilot-db-list] DB 0.3.2 released in english and french

[Chalain Marc<mar...@vo...>]

Yes, i corrected all bugs that you report to me, and more (paticularly in readonly mode).
You can find version in french and english (if you find mistakes in my english, please send me an e-mail).
you can find:
 in db-0_3_2.zip
  db-en.prc: english, with text buttons and no color.=03
  db-fr.prc: french, with text buttons and no color.
  db-en-color.prc: english, with text buttons and colors.
  db-en-mobiledb.prc: english, with text buttons, colors and MobileDB support.
  db-fr-color.prc: french, with text buttons and colors.
 in db-0_3_2iconic.zip
  db-en.prc: english, with icons and no color.=03
  db-fr.prc: french, with icons and no color.
  db-en-color.prc: english, with icons and colors.
  db-en-mobiledb.prc: english, with icons, colors and MobileDB support.
  db-fr-color.prc: french, with icons and colors.
 in db-0_3_2.tar.gz:
  the sources with autoconf configuration. to build use:
    ./configure; make
  to know configuration options, use:
    ./configure --help

Why many differents versions?:
 I want that DB is for the users. Some of them are interested by the performance and the size which are not compatible with the icons and the colors, others have new devices, very fats, with a lot of memory and prefer the design. In the future, i will give the preference for one version, but keep the possibility to build differents versions. My choice will be your choice, send me your point of vue.

color feature: it's for PalmOS 3.5 device with gray scale or color screen. In the list view one line on two are colored to keep your line when you go on the right of the table. this feature ask a lot of memory, and on PlamOS 3.5 the go down/up in the list view is slower.

icons feature: the buttons at the window's bottom are icons. With them i can give more informations and quick access. But they ask more memory (particularly in color), and you should know how to interpret the icons.

MobileDB feature: a lot of you use MobileDB to create your database on the desktop and after to convert it on DB. a plugin exist to give the MobileDB support, but a plugin ask more memory that a internal building.

You can find also the first version of the documantation of Mike Ressler, in HTML format.

Thanks for you patience,
Salut,
Marc.

PS: the german and the portugese versions will come quickly.
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[pilot-db-list] Trasferred my HomePage to http://pilot-db.sourceforge.net/

[<aji...@t-...>]

Well it did work. I have finally managed to transfer the files to

http://pilot-db.sourceforge.net/

which will be the official HomePage from now.

The problem was that I had called the start file
index.htm and there was an existing index.html,
which has preference over index.htm.

My private homepage will be linked this page (soon)
for a short period of time, after which I might delete
it completely.

Since a few people have been asking why the display
is so small, here is why:

The standard in WebSite display is to make sure that
the display is correct while using a resolution of
600x800. So I have tried to make sure that the display
is identical in all browsers at this resolution.

It is possible to make it fit on every resoltution using
%size instead of pixel. Unfortunately this results in
Netscape and IE displaying the files differently.

The only real way (I know) to get around it is to checkt the resolution
of the user's computer and then change the file opened depending
on that (e.g. using java script).

Now this is very much more work, not only in design but also in
maintainance. Maybe I will look into it in the near future.

However, by right-clicking on the buttons you can always open the
links in a new frame, which will then be full size (sorry but the
fonts will still be 10 or 11 Pts, difficult to read in very high 
resolutions).

Long Live DB!

[pilot-db-list] HELP! (My first go at SCP File transfer)

[<aji...@t-...>]

I just tried to upload the web site using SCP (with which I am absolutely
not familiar - I did it the first time in my life!)
and something was transferred somewhere, but I dont know what and where!

I used Putty (PSCP) and entered the foll command:

pscp [web site files directory on my computer]*.*  [my login
name]@shell.sourceforge.net:/home/groups/p/pi/pilot-db/htdocs

I was asked for my password, which I entered, and received the message,
something like: could not chdir home/groups/h/ho/holtkamp

after which all files were transfered somewhere! I hope I did not do
anything wrong!

Can anyone tell me what happened and where the files landed!!


Thanks,

Hans

[pilot-db-list] My Pilot-DB HomePage updated

[<aji...@t-...>]

I have just updated my Pilot-DB HomePage at

http://www.y2ag.de/palm/db

Included are 
 - Links to the projects Pilot-DB and DB-Tools
 - Links to the Mail lists
 - Links to the download areas
 - Manuals of DB and DB-Tools and 
 - a few sample DataBases made my me
 - an 'about' section with a list of developers etc. 
   and alink to the GPL Licence page (and a nice gnu logo made by me)

Please let me know if you think anything is missing.

Thanks,

Hans

Re: [pilot-db-list] test an iconic version

[Fab <kr...@bi...>]

> can some body try this versions, please??
> specialy the color version.

	I can't test the color version, but the b&w.
	I don't like the icons but I must admit the drawings are cute.

	Select the "find" icon.
	Enter a filter string.
	Select find.
	You get the filtered records. Ok.
	Select the "new" icon.
	Get back with the little round arrow (I did that to discover
what was the icon about :-)
	The "all" icon isn't there anymore. But the filter
is still active. Shame :-) You have to quit the database and
get in back to get all the records back.

	No time to go further tonight :-)

	Fab.

[pilot-db-list] test an iconic version

[Chalain Marc<mar...@vo...>]

can some body try this versions, please??
specialy the color version.
Salut,
Marc.

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[pilot-db-list] Important bug fix on 0.3.2 package

[Chalain Marc<mar...@vo...>]

OK, i corrected the bugs:
 - Fatal error when exiting from a DB2 database.
 - lost records after change the DB structure with the filter setting (find)
 - return from the edit mode to the list display "find" button when it should be "All" button.

The CVS tree is updated and the 0.3.2 package.
I'm sorry for the 0.3.2-iconic but i want build with the news icons and you should wait one week.

Salut,
Marc.
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Re:[pilot-db-list] Is a float field type planned?

[Chalain Marc<mar...@vo...>]

> Is a float field-type planned in the near future?

0.3.3 in the winter.
 
> This and the ability to save filter/sort criteria
> are the most important features that are missing,
> in my opinion.

idem.
 
> Any comments?

Yes, i complete the features list of the 0.3.2 version.
Salut,
Marc.
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Re: [pilot-db-list] few problems

[Chalain Marc<mar...@vo...>]

> 
> > when I had db-MobileDB plugin installed, I was happy. but, I could
> > not jump out of the MobileDB database, I always got fatal error.
> 
> ACK
> 
> > the
> > only workaround was to delete db-MobileDB plugin (0.3.2beta5-iconic and
> > current plugins)
> 
> Or to use the find-button to find a string contained in another
> DB-Database and change to that DB. After that you can duplicate the
> NobileDB-DB as an DB-DB.
> 
> Another serious problem: 
>   Database with 180 records
>   use Find, so that e.g. only 10 records are shown
>   Edit database design, e.g. add a field
> -> Database has now only 10 records left; the other 170 records are
> lost.
> 
Oups, sorry. I correct that quickly.

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Re:[pilot-db-list] few problems

[Chalain Marc<mar...@vo...>]

> 1. when I want to create a new record, it will be nice to have cursor in
> the first field and not to have click on it, and the "edit" icon is not
> necessary

when the iconic version will be the official version i will correct this bug, sorry but you should wait the next release in september.

> 2. when pilot-db controls the field validity, and it's a bad field
> value, it will display error. but, I want to know, which field is
> invalid, what's wrong with it and (maybe) its type

Yes i didn't find a solution to have null value in an integer field automaticly.

> 3. when I had db-MobileDB plugin installed, I was happy. but, I could
> not jump out of the MobileDB database, I always got fatal error. the
> only workaround was to delete db-MobileDB plugin (0.3.2beta5-iconic and
> current plugins)

??? i will see.

Salut,
Marc.
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Re:[pilot-db-list] Problem with building under cygwin32

[Chalain Marc<mar...@vo...>]

i have the same problem, it's come from the Tom's Makefile. I use MY Makefile to build the *.bin file in the current directory and use them.
Salut,
Marc.
PS if Tom can send the solution it will be better.



> Hello,
> 
> again I have some problem building the db-application. Everytime, build-prc 
> runs, I get a lot errors like below:
> 
> .res/Link0001.bin: warning: resource .res #0 already obtained from 
> `.res/APPL0001.bin'  
> 
> And, as a result, all pilrc-generated resources are missing in the final 
> prc-file.
> 
> Further, when I try to call build-prc manually from within '.res', it tells 
> me that it can determine the file type of 'res.tmp'.
> 
> Is that a problem with build-prc, with the cygwin-environment or can it 
> fixed in the makefile?
> 
> environment used:
> Cygwin & PRC-Tools downloaded from Handspring
> SDK 4.0 downloaded from Palm
> Sources checked out anonymous
> 
> Thanx,
> S=F6ren
> 
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Re:[pilot-db-list] saving sort and filter expressions/ Interesting Databases

[Chalain Marc<mar...@vo...>]

for the 0.3.2 i close the developpement, it will be for the next version.
For your databases i'm intersting, i don't know if i build a link in the pilot-db.sourceforge.net page or add a package in the download page.
Every body who have interested database can send a mail in the list with:
 type of database( db2, db3, MobileDB, JFile3)
 name
 description
 and URL.

for me i have one database:
 db3, bandes d=E9ssin=E9es, list of french "BD" (comics in english but very differents of US comics), no URL i can send it by e-mail.


> I must agree.
> The sort and an optional filter-expression 
> should be stored inside the list-views.
> 
> Is there a Collection of interesting databases
> in the Palm DB format?
> 
> I have a few (Morse Code and Emoticons). Maybe a list
> should be added in the project home page?
> 
> Hans

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[pilot-db-list] Is a float field type planned?

[<aji...@t-...>]

Is a float field-type planned in the near future?

This and the ability to save filter/sort criteria
are the most important features that are missing,
in my opinion.

Any comments?

Hans

[pilot-db-list] Added DB-Tools manual to my Homepage

[<aji...@t-...>]

Just to inform anyone interested that I've
converted the DB-Tools documentation into
HTML and this is available at my
Palm-DB Homepage
http://www.y2ag.de/palm/db/

Hans

[pilot-db-list] windows version of palm-db-tools 0.3.2

[Tom D. <td...@us...>]

I finally got my Windows parition up and running again. I was able to compile 
the Windows version of palm-db-tools 0.3.2. It is now up on the SourceForge 
site. It does not support the new note fields. I'll add support for this new 
field type in the next week or so.

Re: [pilot-db-list] DB doc in HTML at my Palm-DB Homepage

[Mike R. <mik...@al...>]

On Fri, 3 Aug 2001, Hans Ajiet Holtkamp wrote:
> Mike ressler made a great documentation and I have
> translated it into HTML (by hand: was not easy).

By hand? Ouch! (Actually, I've done very little writing so far; mostly
just combining existing docs into one place and formatting them. Tom Dyas
and Marc Chalain should get most of the credit at this point.)

> Dear Mike: Could you please check it?

It looks quite good. I do have two warnings though: 1) I'm not nearly
finished with it yet, and 2) there are latex2html converters which should
do a pretty good job of automatically converting it to HTML. That said,
it's still nice to see something online, particularly since I'm about to
go on vacation for a week. When I get back, I'll try to submit something
which is more useful and complete.

Mike

-- 
Mike Ressler
mik...@al...
OK, I'm lame: I don't have my own website ...

[pilot-db-list] DB2 Plugin with DB3.2beta5icon

[Larry K. T. <LK...@we...>]

When I have the DB2 Plug in installed on DB3.2beta5icon I get a Fatal =
Exception error.  Is there a 3.2 that works with the DB2 Plug in?

Larry

[pilot-db-list] DB doc in HTML at my Palm-DB Homepage

[<aji...@t-...>]

Mike ressler made a great documentation and I have
translated it into HTML (by hand: was not easy).

Dear Mike: Could you please check it?

The translation is at 

http://www.y2ag.de/palm/db/

click the documentation button.

Thanks,

Hans

Re: [pilot-db-list] few problems

[Walter K. <ko...@u3...>]

Moin,

Du schriebst am / on Wed, 1 Aug 2001 17:15:32 +0200 you wrote:

> when I had db-MobileDB plugin installed, I was happy. but, I could
> not jump out of the MobileDB database, I always got fatal error.

ACK

> the
> only workaround was to delete db-MobileDB plugin (0.3.2beta5-iconic and
> current plugins)

Or to use the find-button to find a string contained in another
DB-Database and change to that DB. After that you can duplicate the
NobileDB-DB as an DB-DB.

Another serious problem:=20
  Database with 180 records
  use Find, so that e.g. only 10 records are shown
  Edit database design, e.g. add a field
-> Database has now only 10 records left; the other 170 records are
lost.

db 3.2-en, db3-Type-Database, on Palm Vx, OS 3.5.0


Gruss,
  Walter
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  Hochdahl am Neandertal

[pilot-db-list] few problems

[Vasko M. <va...@di...>]

Hi,

i have started using pilot-db recently and i have noticed few problems:

1. when I want to create a new record, it will be nice to have cursor in
the first field and not to have click on it, and the "edit" icon is not
necessary
2. when pilot-db controls the field validity, and it's a bad field
value, it will display error. but, I want to know, which field is
invalid, what's wrong with it and (maybe) its type
3. when I had db-MobileDB plugin installed, I was happy. but, I could
not jump out of the MobileDB database, I always got fatal error. the
only workaround was to delete db-MobileDB plugin (0.3.2beta5-iconic and
current plugins)

thank you,
miro

[pilot-db-list] db 3.2beta5icons and DB2 Plugin - Fatel Error

[Larry K. T. <LK...@we...>]

I get a Fatal Error when I try to run db 3.2beta5icons with DB2 Plug in =
installed.  Is this combination suppose to work, is there a 3.2beta that =
does work.  I use the db2.x file formats for random access file storage =
with HotPaw yBasic.

Larry

[pilot-db-list] My Palm DB Homepage - Final Position

[<hol...@di...>]

Here is where it will finally be

http://www.y2ag.de/palm/DB/

Hans

[pilot-db-list] Pilot DB Internet Site

[<hol...@di...>]

I'd forgotten to mention the address:

It is http://www.y2ag.de/palm/

>Hi,
>I am Planning to start a Pilot-DB  HomePage,
>with links to DataBases etc.
>
>Please let me know if anyone is interested
>in it.
>
>I've just started it, so its nothing great yet
>(I've 30 minutes so far)
>
>I'd be happy to get screen shots, links,
>Documentation files etc.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Hans

[pilot-db-list] Pilot DB Page

[<hol...@di...>]

Hi,
I am Planning to start a Pilot-DB  HomePage,
with links to DataBases etc.

Please let me know if anyone is interested
in it.

I've just started it, so its nothing great yet
(I've 30 minutes so far)

I'd be happy to get screen shots, links,
Documentation files etc.

Thanks,

Hans