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From: Luke S. <lsc...@re...> - 2002-09-18 01:48:46
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On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 09:21:54PM -0400, Sean Egan wrote: > On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 21:15, David Fallon wrote: > > Since I use icq for 90% of my buddies, that was indeed why I turned the > > option on (and was thankful it was there). I don't really see a downside > > to having it on (and/or the default), since presumably for the users who > > don't have aliases, it just substitutes the actual username. > > > > On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 18:10, Adam Feakin wrote: > > > It does make sense, in ICQ, to use the alias and not the number though. > > > Do you really remember everyones ICQ numbers? (for people who actually > > > have ICQ contacts :) ). I didn't see the original discussion about > > > this, and I dont really care cuz I dont use the ticker, but.. i know it > > > makes sense :) > > > > > > [yes, I know I should stick my response at the bottom :) ] > > Yes, it is useful for Gadu-gadu and for ICQ. The problem with it is > that it can be very easy to have no clue whom you're talking to when the > feature is turned on. > > I'm seanegn on AIM and se...@ja... on Jabber. Perhaps you have > both aliased to "Sean Egan." Now you double click "Sean Egan" on your > buddy list and open up a conversation. You accidentally change the > "Send message as:" menu. You have no way of knowing what to change it > back to. > hence we make it so that you don't have to worry about it with person support ;-) now if only i could find more time and make some significant progress. i hate school. luke > > > > On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 09:01:21PM -0400, Sean Egan wrote: > > > > I agree with Eric on this... so sod off, the lot of you. > > > > > > > > -s. > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 20:30, Luke Schierer wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 08:27:30PM -0400, Ben Neuman wrote: > > > > > > On 17 Sep 2002 17:21:32 -0700 > > > > > > David Fallon <da...@d2...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > awesome! Will this work for both branches, or should I figure out how to > > > > > > > fix it for head as well? Awesome proggie, btw - I used gabber for a long > > > > > > > time, but it never really worked well for me. This has just worked.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On a separate note, I'd recommend turning on "Show aliases in > > > > > > > tabs/titles/ticker" by default - I almost ran off and coded something > > > > > > > for this until I noticed the option while digging in the source. Much > > > > > > > more useful on, as by definition the alias is what you want to know > > > > > > > about. > > > > > > > > > > > > Heh...as I recall, it took a great deal of needling the [former] developer to even get this feature in gaim in optional form. > > > > > > > > > > eric liked making people know the screenname ;-) > > > > > luke > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > This SF.NET email is sponsored by: AMD - Your access to the experts > > > > > > on Hammer Technology! Open Source & Linux Developers, register now > > > > > > for the AMD Developer Symposium. Code: EX8664 > > > > > > http://www.developwithamd.com/developerlab > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Gaim-devel mailing list > > > > > > Gai...@li... > > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gaim-devel > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > -This email is made of 100% recycled electrons. > > > > > -If something can go wrong.... FIX IT! > > > > > If it's Microsoft...delete it. > > > > > -There are three ways to get something done: > > > > > (1) Do it yourself. > > > > > (2) Hire someone to do it for you. > > > > > (3) Forbid your kids to do it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > This SF.NET email is sponsored by: AMD - Your access to the experts > > > > > on Hammer Technology! Open Source & Linux Developers, register now > > > > > for the AMD Developer Symposium. Code: EX8664 > > > > > http://www.developwithamd.com/developerlab > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Gaim-devel mailing list > > > > > Gai...@li... > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gaim-devel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > This SF.NET email is sponsored by: AMD - Your access to the experts > > > > on Hammer Technology! Open Source & Linux Developers, register now > > > > for the AMD Developer Symposium. Code: EX8664 > > > > http://www.developwithamd.com/developerlab > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Gaim-devel mailing list > > > > Gai...@li... > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gaim-devel > > > > > > -- > > > Adam > > > ad...@sn... > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > This SF.NET email is sponsored by: AMD - Your access to the experts > > > on Hammer Technology! Open Source & Linux Developers, register now > > > for the AMD Developer Symposium. Code: EX8664 > > > http://www.developwithamd.com/developerlab > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Gaim-devel mailing list > > > Gai...@li... > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gaim-devel > > > > > > > > -- > > > > dave > > Systems > > x2131 > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.NET email is sponsored by: AMD - Your access to the experts > > on Hammer Technology! Open Source & Linux Developers, register now > > for the AMD Developer Symposium. Code: EX8664 > > http://www.developwithamd.com/developerlab > > _______________________________________________ > > Gaim-devel mailing list > > Gai...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gaim-devel > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.NET email is sponsored by: AMD - Your access to the experts > on Hammer Technology! Open Source & Linux Developers, register now > for the AMD Developer Symposium. Code: EX8664 > http://www.developwithamd.com/developerlab > _______________________________________________ > Gaim-devel mailing list > Gai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gaim-devel -- -This email is made of 100% recycled electrons. -If something can go wrong.... FIX IT! If it's Microsoft...delete it. -There are three ways to get something done: (1) Do it yourself. (2) Hire someone to do it for you. (3) Forbid your kids to do it. |
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From: Luke S. <lsc...@re...> - 2002-09-18 01:22:04
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On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 06:15:39PM -0700, David Fallon wrote: > Since I use icq for 90% of my buddies, that was indeed why I turned the > option on (and was thankful it was there). I don't really see a downside > to having it on (and/or the default), since presumably for the users who > don't have aliases, it just substitutes the actual username. there isn't a downside. its entirely a philosophical issue, personally i tend to agree it should be on. luke > > On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 18:10, Adam Feakin wrote: > > It does make sense, in ICQ, to use the alias and not the number though. > > Do you really remember everyones ICQ numbers? (for people who actually > > have ICQ contacts :) ). I didn't see the original discussion about > > this, and I dont really care cuz I dont use the ticker, but.. i know it > > makes sense :) > > > > [yes, I know I should stick my response at the bottom :) ] > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 09:01:21PM -0400, Sean Egan wrote: > > > I agree with Eric on this... so sod off, the lot of you. > > > > > > -s. > > > > > > On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 20:30, Luke Schierer wrote: > > > > On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 08:27:30PM -0400, Ben Neuman wrote: > > > > > On 17 Sep 2002 17:21:32 -0700 > > > > > David Fallon <da...@d2...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > awesome! Will this work for both branches, or should I figure out how to > > > > > > fix it for head as well? Awesome proggie, btw - I used gabber for a long > > > > > > time, but it never really worked well for me. This has just worked.... > > > > > > > > > > > > On a separate note, I'd recommend turning on "Show aliases in > > > > > > tabs/titles/ticker" by default - I almost ran off and coded something > > > > > > for this until I noticed the option while digging in the source. Much > > > > > > more useful on, as by definition the alias is what you want to know > > > > > > about. > > > > > > > > > > Heh...as I recall, it took a great deal of needling the [former] developer to even get this feature in gaim in optional form. > > > > > > > > eric liked making people know the screenname ;-) > > > > luke > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > This SF.NET email is sponsored by: AMD - Your access to the experts > > > > > on Hammer Technology! Open Source & Linux Developers, register now > > > > > for the AMD Developer Symposium. Code: EX8664 > > > > > http://www.developwithamd.com/developerlab > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Gaim-devel mailing list > > > > > Gai...@li... > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gaim-devel > > > > > > > > -- > > > > -This email is made of 100% recycled electrons. > > > > -If something can go wrong.... FIX IT! > > > > If it's Microsoft...delete it. > > > > -There are three ways to get something done: > > > > (1) Do it yourself. > > > > (2) Hire someone to do it for you. > > > > (3) Forbid your kids to do it. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > This SF.NET email is sponsored by: AMD - Your access to the experts > > > > on Hammer Technology! Open Source & Linux Developers, register now > > > > for the AMD Developer Symposium. Code: EX8664 > > > > http://www.developwithamd.com/developerlab > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Gaim-devel mailing list > > > > Gai...@li... > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gaim-devel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > This SF.NET email is sponsored by: AMD - Your access to the experts > > > on Hammer Technology! Open Source & Linux Developers, register now > > > for the AMD Developer Symposium. Code: EX8664 > > > http://www.developwithamd.com/developerlab > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Gaim-devel mailing list > > > Gai...@li... > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gaim-devel > > > > -- > > Adam > > ad...@sn... > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.NET email is sponsored by: AMD - Your access to the experts > > on Hammer Technology! Open Source & Linux Developers, register now > > for the AMD Developer Symposium. Code: EX8664 > > http://www.developwithamd.com/developerlab > > _______________________________________________ > > Gaim-devel mailing list > > Gai...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gaim-devel > > > > > -- > > dave > Systems > x2131 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.NET email is sponsored by: AMD - Your access to the experts > on Hammer Technology! Open Source & Linux Developers, register now > for the AMD Developer Symposium. Code: EX8664 > http://www.developwithamd.com/developerlab > _______________________________________________ > Gaim-devel mailing list > Gai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gaim-devel -- -This email is made of 100% recycled electrons. -If something can go wrong.... FIX IT! If it's Microsoft...delete it. -There are three ways to get something done: (1) Do it yourself. (2) Hire someone to do it for you. (3) Forbid your kids to do it. |
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From: Sean E. <bj...@bi...> - 2002-09-18 01:22:00
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On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 21:15, David Fallon wrote: > Since I use icq for 90% of my buddies, that was indeed why I turned the > option on (and was thankful it was there). I don't really see a downside > to having it on (and/or the default), since presumably for the users who > don't have aliases, it just substitutes the actual username. > > On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 18:10, Adam Feakin wrote: > > It does make sense, in ICQ, to use the alias and not the number though. > > Do you really remember everyones ICQ numbers? (for people who actually > > have ICQ contacts :) ). I didn't see the original discussion about > > this, and I dont really care cuz I dont use the ticker, but.. i know it > > makes sense :) > > > > [yes, I know I should stick my response at the bottom :) ] Yes, it is useful for Gadu-gadu and for ICQ. The problem with it is that it can be very easy to have no clue whom you're talking to when the feature is turned on. I'm seanegn on AIM and se...@ja... on Jabber. Perhaps you have both aliased to "Sean Egan." Now you double click "Sean Egan" on your buddy list and open up a conversation. You accidentally change the "Send message as:" menu. You have no way of knowing what to change it back to. > > On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 09:01:21PM -0400, Sean Egan wrote: > > > I agree with Eric on this... so sod off, the lot of you. > > > > > > -s. > > > > > > On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 20:30, Luke Schierer wrote: > > > > On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 08:27:30PM -0400, Ben Neuman wrote: > > > > > On 17 Sep 2002 17:21:32 -0700 > > > > > David Fallon <da...@d2...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > awesome! Will this work for both branches, or should I figure out how to > > > > > > fix it for head as well? Awesome proggie, btw - I used gabber for a long > > > > > > time, but it never really worked well for me. This has just worked.... > > > > > > > > > > > > On a separate note, I'd recommend turning on "Show aliases in > > > > > > tabs/titles/ticker" by default - I almost ran off and coded something > > > > > > for this until I noticed the option while digging in the source. Much > > > > > > more useful on, as by definition the alias is what you want to know > > > > > > about. > > > > > > > > > > Heh...as I recall, it took a great deal of needling the [former] developer to even get this feature in gaim in optional form. > > > > > > > > eric liked making people know the screenname ;-) > > > > luke > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > This SF.NET email is sponsored by: AMD - Your access to the experts > > > > > on Hammer Technology! Open Source & Linux Developers, register now > > > > > for the AMD Developer Symposium. Code: EX8664 > > > > > http://www.developwithamd.com/developerlab > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Gaim-devel mailing list > > > > > Gai...@li... > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gaim-devel > > > > > > > > -- > > > > -This email is made of 100% recycled electrons. > > > > -If something can go wrong.... FIX IT! > > > > If it's Microsoft...delete it. > > > > -There are three ways to get something done: > > > > (1) Do it yourself. > > > > (2) Hire someone to do it for you. > > > > (3) Forbid your kids to do it. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > This SF.NET email is sponsored by: AMD - Your access to the experts > > > > on Hammer Technology! Open Source & Linux Developers, register now > > > > for the AMD Developer Symposium. Code: EX8664 > > > > http://www.developwithamd.com/developerlab > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Gaim-devel mailing list > > > > Gai...@li... > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gaim-devel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > This SF.NET email is sponsored by: AMD - Your access to the experts > > > on Hammer Technology! Open Source & Linux Developers, register now > > > for the AMD Developer Symposium. Code: EX8664 > > > http://www.developwithamd.com/developerlab > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Gaim-devel mailing list > > > Gai...@li... > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gaim-devel > > > > -- > > Adam > > ad...@sn... > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.NET email is sponsored by: AMD - Your access to the experts > > on Hammer Technology! Open Source & Linux Developers, register now > > for the AMD Developer Symposium. Code: EX8664 > > http://www.developwithamd.com/developerlab > > _______________________________________________ > > Gaim-devel mailing list > > Gai...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gaim-devel > > > > > -- > > dave > Systems > x2131 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.NET email is sponsored by: AMD - Your access to the experts > on Hammer Technology! Open Source & Linux Developers, register now > for the AMD Developer Symposium. Code: EX8664 > http://www.developwithamd.com/developerlab > _______________________________________________ > Gaim-devel mailing list > Gai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gaim-devel > |
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From: David F. <da...@d2...> - 2002-09-18 01:15:42
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Since I use icq for 90% of my buddies, that was indeed why I turned the option on (and was thankful it was there). I don't really see a downside to having it on (and/or the default), since presumably for the users who don't have aliases, it just substitutes the actual username. On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 18:10, Adam Feakin wrote: > It does make sense, in ICQ, to use the alias and not the number though. > Do you really remember everyones ICQ numbers? (for people who actually > have ICQ contacts :) ). I didn't see the original discussion about > this, and I dont really care cuz I dont use the ticker, but.. i know it > makes sense :) > > [yes, I know I should stick my response at the bottom :) ] > > > On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 09:01:21PM -0400, Sean Egan wrote: > > I agree with Eric on this... so sod off, the lot of you. > > > > -s. > > > > On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 20:30, Luke Schierer wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 08:27:30PM -0400, Ben Neuman wrote: > > > > On 17 Sep 2002 17:21:32 -0700 > > > > David Fallon <da...@d2...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > awesome! Will this work for both branches, or should I figure out how to > > > > > fix it for head as well? Awesome proggie, btw - I used gabber for a long > > > > > time, but it never really worked well for me. This has just worked.... > > > > > > > > > > On a separate note, I'd recommend turning on "Show aliases in > > > > > tabs/titles/ticker" by default - I almost ran off and coded something > > > > > for this until I noticed the option while digging in the source. Much > > > > > more useful on, as by definition the alias is what you want to know > > > > > about. > > > > > > > > Heh...as I recall, it took a great deal of needling the [former] developer to even get this feature in gaim in optional form. > > > > > > eric liked making people know the screenname ;-) > > > luke > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > This SF.NET email is sponsored by: AMD - Your access to the experts > > > > on Hammer Technology! Open Source & Linux Developers, register now > > > > for the AMD Developer Symposium. Code: EX8664 > > > > http://www.developwithamd.com/developerlab > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Gaim-devel mailing list > > > > Gai...@li... > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gaim-devel > > > > > > -- > > > -This email is made of 100% recycled electrons. > > > -If something can go wrong.... FIX IT! > > > If it's Microsoft...delete it. > > > -There are three ways to get something done: > > > (1) Do it yourself. > > > (2) Hire someone to do it for you. > > > (3) Forbid your kids to do it. > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > This SF.NET email is sponsored by: AMD - Your access to the experts > > > on Hammer Technology! Open Source & Linux Developers, register now > > > for the AMD Developer Symposium. Code: EX8664 > > > http://www.developwithamd.com/developerlab > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Gaim-devel mailing list > > > Gai...@li... > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gaim-devel > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.NET email is sponsored by: AMD - Your access to the experts > > on Hammer Technology! Open Source & Linux Developers, register now > > for the AMD Developer Symposium. Code: EX8664 > > http://www.developwithamd.com/developerlab > > _______________________________________________ > > Gaim-devel mailing list > > Gai...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gaim-devel > > -- > Adam > ad...@sn... > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.NET email is sponsored by: AMD - Your access to the experts > on Hammer Technology! Open Source & Linux Developers, register now > for the AMD Developer Symposium. Code: EX8664 > http://www.developwithamd.com/developerlab > _______________________________________________ > Gaim-devel mailing list > Gai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gaim-devel > > -- dave Systems x2131 |
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From: Adam F. <ad...@sn...> - 2002-09-18 01:10:48
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It does make sense, in ICQ, to use the alias and not the number though. Do you really remember everyones ICQ numbers? (for people who actually have ICQ contacts :) ). I didn't see the original discussion about this, and I dont really care cuz I dont use the ticker, but.. i know it makes sense :) [yes, I know I should stick my response at the bottom :) ] On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 09:01:21PM -0400, Sean Egan wrote: > I agree with Eric on this... so sod off, the lot of you. > > -s. > > On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 20:30, Luke Schierer wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 08:27:30PM -0400, Ben Neuman wrote: > > > On 17 Sep 2002 17:21:32 -0700 > > > David Fallon <da...@d2...> wrote: > > > > > > > awesome! Will this work for both branches, or should I figure out how to > > > > fix it for head as well? Awesome proggie, btw - I used gabber for a long > > > > time, but it never really worked well for me. This has just worked.... > > > > > > > > On a separate note, I'd recommend turning on "Show aliases in > > > > tabs/titles/ticker" by default - I almost ran off and coded something > > > > for this until I noticed the option while digging in the source. Much > > > > more useful on, as by definition the alias is what you want to know > > > > about. > > > > > > Heh...as I recall, it took a great deal of needling the [former] developer to even get this feature in gaim in optional form. > > > > eric liked making people know the screenname ;-) > > luke > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > This SF.NET email is sponsored by: AMD - Your access to the experts > > > on Hammer Technology! Open Source & Linux Developers, register now > > > for the AMD Developer Symposium. Code: EX8664 > > > http://www.developwithamd.com/developerlab > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Gaim-devel mailing list > > > Gai...@li... > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gaim-devel > > > > -- > > -This email is made of 100% recycled electrons. > > -If something can go wrong.... FIX IT! > > If it's Microsoft...delete it. > > -There are three ways to get something done: > > (1) Do it yourself. > > (2) Hire someone to do it for you. > > (3) Forbid your kids to do it. > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.NET email is sponsored by: AMD - Your access to the experts > > on Hammer Technology! Open Source & Linux Developers, register now > > for the AMD Developer Symposium. Code: EX8664 > > http://www.developwithamd.com/developerlab > > _______________________________________________ > > Gaim-devel mailing list > > Gai...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gaim-devel > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.NET email is sponsored by: AMD - Your access to the experts > on Hammer Technology! Open Source & Linux Developers, register now > for the AMD Developer Symposium. Code: EX8664 > http://www.developwithamd.com/developerlab > _______________________________________________ > Gaim-devel mailing list > Gai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gaim-devel -- Adam ad...@sn... |
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From: Christian H. <ch...@gn...> - 2002-09-18 01:06:36
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On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 09:01:21PM -0400, Sean Egan wrote: > I agree with Eric on this... so sod off, the lot of you. > > -s. *gasp!* I've never seen such disrespect! I'm quitting to work on Everybuddy. Goodbye! Christian -- Christian Hammond <> The GNUpdate Project ch...@gn... <> http://www.gnupdate.org/ Murphy's 7th Law: If everything seems to be going well, you have obviously overlooked something. |
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From: Luke S. <lsc...@re...> - 2002-09-18 01:06:06
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On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 09:01:21PM -0400, Sean Egan wrote: > I agree with Eric on this... so sod off, the lot of you. > "sod off" now you sound like robot101 :-P luke > -s. > > On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 20:30, Luke Schierer wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 08:27:30PM -0400, Ben Neuman wrote: > > > On 17 Sep 2002 17:21:32 -0700 > > > David Fallon <da...@d2...> wrote: > > > > > > > awesome! Will this work for both branches, or should I figure out how to > > > > fix it for head as well? Awesome proggie, btw - I used gabber for a long > > > > time, but it never really worked well for me. This has just worked.... > > > > > > > > On a separate note, I'd recommend turning on "Show aliases in > > > > tabs/titles/ticker" by default - I almost ran off and coded something > > > > for this until I noticed the option while digging in the source. Much > > > > more useful on, as by definition the alias is what you want to know > > > > about. > > > > > > Heh...as I recall, it took a great deal of needling the [former] developer to even get this feature in gaim in optional form. > > > > eric liked making people know the screenname ;-) > > luke > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > This SF.NET email is sponsored by: AMD - Your access to the experts > > > on Hammer Technology! Open Source & Linux Developers, register now > > > for the AMD Developer Symposium. Code: EX8664 > > > http://www.developwithamd.com/developerlab > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Gaim-devel mailing list > > > Gai...@li... > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gaim-devel > > > > -- > > -This email is made of 100% recycled electrons. > > -If something can go wrong.... FIX IT! > > If it's Microsoft...delete it. > > -There are three ways to get something done: > > (1) Do it yourself. > > (2) Hire someone to do it for you. > > (3) Forbid your kids to do it. > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.NET email is sponsored by: AMD - Your access to the experts > > on Hammer Technology! Open Source & Linux Developers, register now > > for the AMD Developer Symposium. Code: EX8664 > > http://www.developwithamd.com/developerlab > > _______________________________________________ > > Gaim-devel mailing list > > Gai...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gaim-devel > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.NET email is sponsored by: AMD - Your access to the experts > on Hammer Technology! Open Source & Linux Developers, register now > for the AMD Developer Symposium. Code: EX8664 > http://www.developwithamd.com/developerlab > _______________________________________________ > Gaim-devel mailing list > Gai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gaim-devel -- -This email is made of 100% recycled electrons. -If something can go wrong.... FIX IT! If it's Microsoft...delete it. -There are three ways to get something done: (1) Do it yourself. (2) Hire someone to do it for you. (3) Forbid your kids to do it. |
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From: Sean E. <bj...@bi...> - 2002-09-18 01:02:00
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I agree with Eric on this... so sod off, the lot of you. -s. On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 20:30, Luke Schierer wrote: > On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 08:27:30PM -0400, Ben Neuman wrote: > > On 17 Sep 2002 17:21:32 -0700 > > David Fallon <da...@d2...> wrote: > > > > > awesome! Will this work for both branches, or should I figure out how to > > > fix it for head as well? Awesome proggie, btw - I used gabber for a long > > > time, but it never really worked well for me. This has just worked.... > > > > > > On a separate note, I'd recommend turning on "Show aliases in > > > tabs/titles/ticker" by default - I almost ran off and coded something > > > for this until I noticed the option while digging in the source. Much > > > more useful on, as by definition the alias is what you want to know > > > about. > > > > Heh...as I recall, it took a great deal of needling the [former] developer to even get this feature in gaim in optional form. > > eric liked making people know the screenname ;-) > luke > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.NET email is sponsored by: AMD - Your access to the experts > > on Hammer Technology! Open Source & Linux Developers, register now > > for the AMD Developer Symposium. Code: EX8664 > > http://www.developwithamd.com/developerlab > > _______________________________________________ > > Gaim-devel mailing list > > Gai...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gaim-devel > > -- > -This email is made of 100% recycled electrons. > -If something can go wrong.... FIX IT! > If it's Microsoft...delete it. > -There are three ways to get something done: > (1) Do it yourself. > (2) Hire someone to do it for you. > (3) Forbid your kids to do it. > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.NET email is sponsored by: AMD - Your access to the experts > on Hammer Technology! Open Source & Linux Developers, register now > for the AMD Developer Symposium. Code: EX8664 > http://www.developwithamd.com/developerlab > _______________________________________________ > Gaim-devel mailing list > Gai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gaim-devel > |
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From: Luke S. <lsc...@re...> - 2002-09-18 00:30:50
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On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 08:27:30PM -0400, Ben Neuman wrote: > On 17 Sep 2002 17:21:32 -0700 > David Fallon <da...@d2...> wrote: > > > awesome! Will this work for both branches, or should I figure out how to > > fix it for head as well? Awesome proggie, btw - I used gabber for a long > > time, but it never really worked well for me. This has just worked.... > > > > On a separate note, I'd recommend turning on "Show aliases in > > tabs/titles/ticker" by default - I almost ran off and coded something > > for this until I noticed the option while digging in the source. Much > > more useful on, as by definition the alias is what you want to know > > about. > > Heh...as I recall, it took a great deal of needling the [former] developer to even get this feature in gaim in optional form. eric liked making people know the screenname ;-) luke > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.NET email is sponsored by: AMD - Your access to the experts > on Hammer Technology! Open Source & Linux Developers, register now > for the AMD Developer Symposium. Code: EX8664 > http://www.developwithamd.com/developerlab > _______________________________________________ > Gaim-devel mailing list > Gai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gaim-devel -- -This email is made of 100% recycled electrons. -If something can go wrong.... FIX IT! If it's Microsoft...delete it. -There are three ways to get something done: (1) Do it yourself. (2) Hire someone to do it for you. (3) Forbid your kids to do it. |
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From: Ben N. <ne...@th...> - 2002-09-18 00:25:31
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On 17 Sep 2002 17:21:32 -0700 David Fallon <da...@d2...> wrote: > awesome! Will this work for both branches, or should I figure out how to > fix it for head as well? Awesome proggie, btw - I used gabber for a long > time, but it never really worked well for me. This has just worked.... > > On a separate note, I'd recommend turning on "Show aliases in > tabs/titles/ticker" by default - I almost ran off and coded something > for this until I noticed the option while digging in the source. Much > more useful on, as by definition the alias is what you want to know > about. Heh...as I recall, it took a great deal of needling the [former] developer to even get this feature in gaim in optional form. |
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From: David F. <da...@d2...> - 2002-09-18 00:21:43
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awesome! Will this work for both branches, or should I figure out how to fix it for head as well? Awesome proggie, btw - I used gabber for a long time, but it never really worked well for me. This has just worked.... On a separate note, I'd recommend turning on "Show aliases in tabs/titles/ticker" by default - I almost ran off and coded something for this until I noticed the option while digging in the source. Much more useful on, as by definition the alias is what you want to know about. On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 17:14, Sean Egan wrote: > No Luke. This is for the edit tree. I'll accept this patch. Thanks. > > -s. > > On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 20:06, Luke Schierer wrote: > > it was indeed made deliberately, instead of scrolling horizontally, gaim's edit box forces > > the text to wrap. thus, if you expand your narrow edit pane vertically, you will see more > > of the text. the only way we could acceptably move to having a horizonaly scroll bar is if > > the behavior was made optional. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.NET email is sponsored by: AMD - Your access to the experts > on Hammer Technology! Open Source & Linux Developers, register now > for the AMD Developer Symposium. Code: EX8664 > http://www.developwithamd.com/developerlab > _______________________________________________ > Gaim-devel mailing list > Gai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gaim-devel > > -- dave Systems x2131 |
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From: Luke S. <lsc...@re...> - 2002-09-18 00:17:32
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On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 05:13:53PM -0700, David Fallon wrote: > On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 17:06, Luke Schierer wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 04:29:14PM -0700, David Fallon wrote: > > > Hi, I use a fairly narrow gaim window, and have run into the annoyance > > > that the editpane doesn't have a horizontal scrollbar - the attached > > > patch fixes it for the gtk 1.2 branch, and I can figure one out for the > > > HEAD branch if necessary. This seems to have been a deliberate decision > > > - I hope whoever made it is willing to compromise, as the patch makes it > > > automaticly appear/dissapear as necessarty. :) thanks... > > > > it was indeed made deliberately, instead of scrolling horizontally, gaim's edit box forces > > the text to wrap. thus, if you expand your narrow edit pane vertically, you will see more > > of the text. the only way we could acceptably move to having a horizonaly scroll bar is if > > the behavior was made optional. > > luke > > Erm. I believe we're discussing 2 different things. I'm referring to the > "Edit Buddies" tab on the main gaim window, where it lists the contacts > in a gtktree grouped by im system then group - this is where the horz. > scroll bar is missing (the text doesn't wrap, and shouldn't). I agree > entirely with the design decisions of the "edit box" for messages, where > there's no need for a horz. scroll since the text wraps. My apologies, > of course, if we indeed are discussing the same thing. OH, we were indeed discussing different things. yes, a horizontal scroll bar would be acceptable there. luke > > -- > > dave > Systems > x2131 -- -This email is made of 100% recycled electrons. -If something can go wrong.... FIX IT! If it's Microsoft...delete it. -There are three ways to get something done: (1) Do it yourself. (2) Hire someone to do it for you. (3) Forbid your kids to do it. |
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From: Sean E. <bj...@bi...> - 2002-09-18 00:14:13
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No Luke. This is for the edit tree. I'll accept this patch. Thanks. -s. On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 20:06, Luke Schierer wrote: > it was indeed made deliberately, instead of scrolling horizontally, gaim's edit box forces > the text to wrap. thus, if you expand your narrow edit pane vertically, you will see more > of the text. the only way we could acceptably move to having a horizonaly scroll bar is if > the behavior was made optional. |
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From: David F. <da...@d2...> - 2002-09-18 00:13:56
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On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 17:06, Luke Schierer wrote: > On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 04:29:14PM -0700, David Fallon wrote: > > Hi, I use a fairly narrow gaim window, and have run into the annoyance > > that the editpane doesn't have a horizontal scrollbar - the attached > > patch fixes it for the gtk 1.2 branch, and I can figure one out for the > > HEAD branch if necessary. This seems to have been a deliberate decision > > - I hope whoever made it is willing to compromise, as the patch makes it > > automaticly appear/dissapear as necessarty. :) thanks... > > it was indeed made deliberately, instead of scrolling horizontally, gaim's edit box forces > the text to wrap. thus, if you expand your narrow edit pane vertically, you will see more > of the text. the only way we could acceptably move to having a horizonaly scroll bar is if > the behavior was made optional. > luke Erm. I believe we're discussing 2 different things. I'm referring to the "Edit Buddies" tab on the main gaim window, where it lists the contacts in a gtktree grouped by im system then group - this is where the horz. scroll bar is missing (the text doesn't wrap, and shouldn't). I agree entirely with the design decisions of the "edit box" for messages, where there's no need for a horz. scroll since the text wraps. My apologies, of course, if we indeed are discussing the same thing. -- dave Systems x2131 |
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From: Luke S. <lsc...@re...> - 2002-09-18 00:06:32
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On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 04:29:14PM -0700, David Fallon wrote: > Hi, I use a fairly narrow gaim window, and have run into the annoyance > that the editpane doesn't have a horizontal scrollbar - the attached > patch fixes it for the gtk 1.2 branch, and I can figure one out for the > HEAD branch if necessary. This seems to have been a deliberate decision > - I hope whoever made it is willing to compromise, as the patch makes it > automaticly appear/dissapear as necessarty. :) thanks... it was indeed made deliberately, instead of scrolling horizontally, gaim's edit box forces the text to wrap. thus, if you expand your narrow edit pane vertically, you will see more of the text. the only way we could acceptably move to having a horizonaly scroll bar is if the behavior was made optional. luke > > -- > > dave > Systems > x2131 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.NET email is sponsored by: AMD - Your access to the experts > on Hammer Technology! Open Source & Linux Developers, register now > for the AMD Developer Symposium. Code: EX8664 > http://www.developwithamd.com/developerlab > _______________________________________________ > Gaim-devel mailing list > Gai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gaim-devel -- -This email is made of 100% recycled electrons. -If something can go wrong.... FIX IT! If it's Microsoft...delete it. -There are three ways to get something done: (1) Do it yourself. (2) Hire someone to do it for you. (3) Forbid your kids to do it. |
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From: David F. <da...@d2...> - 2002-09-17 23:34:51
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sigh. Okay, patch attached this time. sorry... -- dave Systems x2131 |
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From: David F. <da...@d2...> - 2002-09-17 23:29:17
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Hi, I use a fairly narrow gaim window, and have run into the annoyance that the editpane doesn't have a horizontal scrollbar - the attached patch fixes it for the gtk 1.2 branch, and I can figure one out for the HEAD branch if necessary. This seems to have been a deliberate decision - I hope whoever made it is willing to compromise, as the patch makes it automaticly appear/dissapear as necessarty. :) thanks... -- dave Systems x2131 |
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From: Adrian D. <adr...@gm...> - 2002-09-16 16:43:25
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, since mozilla down't allow two intances of itself you can't really use the mozilla option in the prefs. Mozilla allows to open a new window if there is an intance already running. I solved it buy using a script which first tries to open a window to an existing intsance and if fails starts a new mozilla. mozilla -remote "openURL($1,new-window)" 2> /dev/null if [ $? != 0 ] then mozilla -splash -url $1 & fi maybe you could implament this and combine it with using the middle mouse on an link will open the link in a new tap instead of a whole window. That would be a cool feature. Thx 4 Gaim Ciao Adrian -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9hgpOFyp8AaAsy0wRAkX7AJ9Ve8DN7GZidEwqgrTXX2BNBqtZngCgqYVn dSEFtcRBmg9zCpFL3C6MM9M= =tB8b -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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From: Sean E. <bj...@bi...> - 2002-09-15 17:10:37
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On Sun, 2002-09-15 at 06:19, Kang Jeong-Hee wrote: > Hi. > > I've removed almost a thousand lines of code in gtkimhtml.c. > now GtkIMHtml is nowhere, replaced by GtkTextView. > and the APIs gone to wrapper of GtkTextView's API sets. Cool--I've been debating to myself back and forth whether to do it this way, or just do a straight port with Pango. I'd actually prefer, though not to make a "wrapper" around gtktextview, but rather make gtktextview a parent widget of gtkimhtml. > but I don't post the patch here this moment; > many features removed temporarily, to make gaim simpler for ongoing patch. > > if anybody has interested, let's make it together. I am interested ;) > now it's time to convert html tags of mesg to GtkTextTag > for color, font size, etc. > > thanks. > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > Welcome to geek heaven. > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > _______________________________________________ > Gaim-devel mailing list > Gai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gaim-devel > |
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From: Kang Jeong-H. <Ke...@ma...> - 2002-09-15 10:14:40
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Hi. I've removed almost a thousand lines of code in gtkimhtml.c. now GtkIMHtml is nowhere, replaced by GtkTextView. and the APIs gone to wrapper of GtkTextView's API sets. but I don't post the patch here this moment; many features removed temporarily, to make gaim simpler for ongoing patch. if anybody has interested, let's make it together. now it's time to convert html tags of mesg to GtkTextTag for color, font size, etc. thanks. |
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From: Luke S. <lsc...@re...> - 2002-09-14 23:10:50
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On Sat, Sep 14, 2002 at 03:18:03PM -0400, Rob Flynn wrote: > Everyone knows that blue is so much cooler than red anyways... :) indeed :-) luke > > > On Sat, 2002-09-14 at 18:19, Evan Doughty wrote: > > Hey guys, > > > > There's been a lot of feedback from the community about the Windows > > port, not all of it positive. In my experience Windows people have > > little concept of the devolpment process, and "Alpha" doesn't really > > mean much to them. But that's ok. ;) > > > > Anyway, my friend asked me to relay his thanks to everyone who worked on > > the port. He's seen me using Gaim, and doesn't care for Trillian's UI, > > so this is a "godsend" for him. A few quotes: > > > > ** > > (12:05:46) Tom Nix: Good God damn. > > (12:05:56) Tom Nix: This is amazing. > > (12:09:29) Tom Nix: Ah! i just opened an AIm window and it went into > > tabs! > > (12:09:44) Tom Nix: Good god. Amazing. > > (12:10:28) Tom Nix: I already like GAIM better. > > (12:11:14) Tom Nix: And as an added bonus, my name is in blue which is > > so much cooler than red. > > ** > > > > So, yeah. You guys made at least one person's day. :) > > > > -- > > Evan Doughty > > ev...@ca... > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > > Welcome to geek heaven. > > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > > _______________________________________________ > > Gaim-devel mailing list > > Gai...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gaim-devel > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > Welcome to geek heaven. > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > _______________________________________________ > Gaim-devel mailing list > Gai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gaim-devel -- -This email is made of 100% recycled electrons. -If something can go wrong.... FIX IT! If it's Microsoft...delete it. -There are three ways to get something done: (1) Do it yourself. (2) Hire someone to do it for you. (3) Forbid your kids to do it. |
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From: Rob F. <ro...@ma...> - 2002-09-14 23:07:35
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Everyone knows that blue is so much cooler than red anyways... :) On Sat, 2002-09-14 at 18:19, Evan Doughty wrote: > Hey guys, > > There's been a lot of feedback from the community about the Windows > port, not all of it positive. In my experience Windows people have > little concept of the devolpment process, and "Alpha" doesn't really > mean much to them. But that's ok. ;) > > Anyway, my friend asked me to relay his thanks to everyone who worked on > the port. He's seen me using Gaim, and doesn't care for Trillian's UI, > so this is a "godsend" for him. A few quotes: > > ** > (12:05:46) Tom Nix: Good God damn. > (12:05:56) Tom Nix: This is amazing. > (12:09:29) Tom Nix: Ah! i just opened an AIm window and it went into > tabs! > (12:09:44) Tom Nix: Good god. Amazing. > (12:10:28) Tom Nix: I already like GAIM better. > (12:11:14) Tom Nix: And as an added bonus, my name is in blue which is > so much cooler than red. > ** > > So, yeah. You guys made at least one person's day. :) > > -- > Evan Doughty > ev...@ca... > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > Welcome to geek heaven. > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > _______________________________________________ > Gaim-devel mailing list > Gai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gaim-devel |
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From: Sean E. <bj...@bi...> - 2002-09-14 18:12:33
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I think you certainly have a point that Gaim's name is somewhat misleading--but people have donated thousands of dollars and our lawyers have been working hard for about a year now protecting the name. I think it'll be around for a while. -s. On Sat, 2002-09-14 at 14:03, Christian Hammond wrote: > On Sat, Sep 14, 2002 at 11:01:48AM -0400, Thomas C. Meggs wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Hi, > > > > It occured to me that Gaim has outgrown its name. I propose two things: > > > > #1 Change GAIM's name to GUIM. GUIM standing for Grand Unified Instant > > Messenger. > > > > #2 More readily package the various IM plugins along with GAIM, er GUIM. :) > > > > I think both of these moves will more widely spread Gaim's adoption. > > > > Regards, > > Tom > > This is an old subject. > > 1) Gaim does NOT stand for anything anymore, except Gaim's An Instant > Messenger, or Gaim's An Immediate Messenger, but that's unofficial. > > 2) It's not GAIM. It's gaim or Gaim. > > 3) People know the Gaim name. Changing it wouldn't be a great idea. > > 4) Guim sounds so ugly. I'd be forced to fork GUIM and name it Gaim. > > 5) I don't think we need a name change to get more users. We have a > LOT of people who use this software, and we're about to have a lot > more, since we now have a Windows alpha out. > > Christian > > -- > Christian Hammond <> The GNUpdate Project > ch...@gn... <> http://www.gnupdate.org/ > Brain fried -- Core dump > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > Welcome to geek heaven. > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > _______________________________________________ > Gaim-devel mailing list > Gai...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gaim-devel > |
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From: Christian H. <ch...@gn...> - 2002-09-14 18:03:14
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On Sat, Sep 14, 2002 at 11:01:48AM -0400, Thomas C. Meggs wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi, > > It occured to me that Gaim has outgrown its name. I propose two things: > > #1 Change GAIM's name to GUIM. GUIM standing for Grand Unified Instant > Messenger. > > #2 More readily package the various IM plugins along with GAIM, er GUIM. :) > > I think both of these moves will more widely spread Gaim's adoption. > > Regards, > Tom This is an old subject. 1) Gaim does NOT stand for anything anymore, except Gaim's An Instant Messenger, or Gaim's An Immediate Messenger, but that's unofficial. 2) It's not GAIM. It's gaim or Gaim. 3) People know the Gaim name. Changing it wouldn't be a great idea. 4) Guim sounds so ugly. I'd be forced to fork GUIM and name it Gaim. 5) I don't think we need a name change to get more users. We have a LOT of people who use this software, and we're about to have a lot more, since we now have a Windows alpha out. Christian -- Christian Hammond <> The GNUpdate Project ch...@gn... <> http://www.gnupdate.org/ Brain fried -- Core dump |
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From: Thomas C. M. <to...@pl...> - 2002-09-14 15:01:55
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, It occured to me that Gaim has outgrown its name. I propose two things: #1 Change GAIM's name to GUIM. GUIM standing for Grand Unified Instant Messenger. #2 More readily package the various IM plugins along with GAIM, er GUIM. :) I think both of these moves will more widely spread Gaim's adoption. Regards, Tom - -- $Id: .sig,v 1.17 2002/08/21 13:12:32 tom Exp $ pub 1024D/87F1C20F 2001-11-15 Thomas C. Meggs <to...@pl...> Key fingerprint = 5E9A D535 B9DA A889 984B 9654 2025 409B 87F1 C20F "It was funny with coffee. Sometimes it did nothing for him, and actually made him weak. But sometimes it really made him feel like God." - from "Miguel", short story by Dan Bern -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iQIVAwUBPYNPWQZIFEaahkDtAQJySg/9Gr4X1ANfwDvOnQ6wZHI6YQrkttw2NR/O snVwYH1sbptGv4dh6l3ZeP+eF3VE+GfQEP+63XVW8N1z+JTDhufo8kjr2U3nQSzB 0MY/EtUBAJtvPuXVB6jSx0JzrLdcJKYuW+/8muqFha2QliCLgRHatn1sK06TL46/ RPhh0er90XeHV9nRHsUyqSKMhEbyRHOIYRiYvv0+eShdQlIjL+uwG6bUi6wOacHQ XnaDxuvDlo1pQ7WfjKEmKfdAoQ2TDwZNCqmeH35r55Z6VAnZAEsZXITYDKozztpu VzNSFRiigUSC1Ea2MJqN9oWs1yyWmPDgzwt1h5pQwyY1aNehiYf+Nt4JAIweii0K P8WZwntf+g2rIwAEt5SqakgC/o8zYCeWjkTvttrq9ty0qLW5mYX8i6UhnjpMHkNH xZnDwY2hxS4SML49PDY1u2UnYTPks44o5EKooJI5x8mnKY7LMe44sN79soVHKUJh wDIPuJvqPBhNaTZJS4lhJxx4opmtC+8qXIX3rIA569bUfs9qePxWLuF+tOW8ZeDh /pjlb4J3DtiPeRynIsOoz6nswNFGoz74TfX5pD83AKBgQEifVYmYMB4mnJSFvSIG iiyrTk7U+ORnZSK32F2FR7NFm2M6dRIMD0NLGFHmTiSnrPubrWutpNbCa0JSGr77 Hw19qzQyp5A= =XSfW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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