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Disable NoTapTyping feature

[Matthias G. <mat...@us...>]

Hi,

In the stable debian package of pbbuttonsd the option NoTapTyping is
enabled by default. This happend by accident and is not according to the
man page. Due to the reports about machine freezes that might have or
might not have a connection to this feature I urgently recommend to
disable the feature for now.

Change following option in pbbuttonsd.conf:
   NoTapTyping = no

This has nothing to do with the recent reports about freezes after wakeup.

 Best Regards
   Matthias

Re: Problems with recent versions of pbbutonsd

[Matthias G. <mat...@us...>]

> I've tried version 0.6.6 and I've tried 0.7.1 and the machince hangs
> on waking from sleep with both.

If the problem occours only on wakeup it's a kernel problem for sure.
Maybe one ore more driver have problems with sleep and wakeup.
I have heard the usb drivers make problems. Try to unload those
modules before you trigger sleep. Check lsmod for other candidates

 Best Regards
   Matthias

Re: Problems with recent versions of pbbutonsd

[Erik de C. L. <eri...@me...>]

Frank Lichtenheld wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 07:38:25PM +1000, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:
> > The current version of pbuttonsd is 0.7.0 but I'm not sure what
> > the previous version was.
> > 
> > So, my questions :
> > 
> >    - Anyone know how to fix the freeze on wakeup from sleep?
> >    - Anyone now how get the source code for older versions of
> >      pbbuttonsd
> > 
> > Answers to either of the above appreciated.
> 
> Since the version of pbbuttonsd in Debian sarge is 0.6.6 you can easily
> get this version from there. Otherwise snapshot.debian.net is your
> friend...
> If you want to try out pbbuttonsd 0.7.1 you can get a Debian package
> from http://www.lichtenheld.de/debian/ (since uploads to Debian are
> currently not possible due to the relocation of the ftp-master server
> I couldn't upload this one yet).ine 

Thanks Frank.

I've tried version 0.6.6 and I've tried 0.7.1 and the machince hangs
on waking from sleep with both.

Looks like this is a kernel issue.

Thanks again.

Cheers,
Erik
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Re: Problems with recent versions of pbbutonsd

[Frank L. <fr...@li...>]

On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 07:38:25PM +1000, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:
> The current version of pbuttonsd is 0.7.0 but I'm not sure what
> the previous version was.
> 
> So, my questions :
> 
>    - Anyone know how to fix the freeze on wakeup from sleep?
>    - Anyone now how get the source code for older versions of
>      pbbuttonsd
> 
> Answers to either of the above appreciated.

Since the version of pbbuttonsd in Debian sarge is 0.6.6 you can easily
get this version from there. Otherwise snapshot.debian.net is your
friend...
If you want to try out pbbuttonsd 0.7.1 you can get a Debian package
from http://www.lichtenheld.de/debian/ (since uploads to Debian are
currently not possible due to the relocation of the ftp-master server
I couldn't upload this one yet).

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Problems with recent versions of pbbutonsd

[Erik de C. L. <eri...@me...>]

Hi all,

I've had a G3 based iBook for about three years now. The system
runs Debain testing and until very recently everything was running
fine.

About 2 weeks ago I did an apt-get update/upgrade which installed
a new version of pbbutonsd and ever since then the machine has 
hung whenever it comes out of sleep. On the debian-ppc list people
were suggesting that this was a kernel problem. However, my kernel
stayed at the same version for a month before the problems began.

The current version of pbuttonsd is 0.7.0 but I'm not sure what
the previous version was.

So, my questions :

   - Anyone know how to fix the freeze on wakeup from sleep?
   - Anyone now how get the source code for older versions of
     pbbuttonsd

Answers to either of the above appreciated.

Cheers,
Erik
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Problems with recent versions of pbbutonsd

[Erik de C. L. <eri...@me...>]

Hi all,

I've had a G3 based iBook for about three years now. The system
runs Debain testing and until very recently everything was running
fine.

About 2 weeks ago I did an apt-get update/upgrade which installed
a new version of pbbutonsd and ever since then the machine has 
hung whenever it comes out of sleep. On the debian-ppc list people
were suggesting that this was a kernel problem. However, my kernel
stayed at the same version for a month before the problems began.

The current version of pbuttonsd is 0.7.0 but I'm not sure what
the previous version was.

So, my questions :

   - Anyone know how to fix the freeze on wakeup from sleep?
   - Anyone now how get the source code for older versions of
     pbbuttonsd

Answers to either of the above appreciated.

Cheers,
Erik
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Should pbbuttonsd use hal and dbus?

[Matthias G. <mat...@us...>]

Hi,
I recently discovered an interesting project: GNOME Power Manager.

It is not really a power manager. It tries to unify the interface to
various power management features and up to now it provides only a
very basic configuration dialog and some toolbar functionality. The aim
of this project is to replace all power management daemons (pmud, apmd
and acpid are named on the home page).

Currently it is far from reaching its aims and I don't see when it will
be able to replace pbbuttonsd, but I think the course is quite right and
facinating: To have a unique architecture independent interface to power
management features.

This project makes heavy use of  HAL and dbus. Would it make sense to
change pbbuttonsd to use HAL and dbus too?

I thought a while about that and can't find any major advantages. It
would be a whole bunch of work and even mean to split up pbbuttonsd
in some smaller daemons (HAL drivers?) Furthermore half of the devices
on my ancient Pismo showed as "unknown device"  in the
hal-device-manager.

HAL and dbus are pretty new to me and they look very complicated to
use. Has anybody experiences with HAL and dbus and would be willing to
help if we found enough "pro's" to start? 

For the beginning I would appreciate any thought on this topic. What Do
you think? Would it be helpfull to use HAL and dbus or is this not the
right approach for ppc power management? Where are the benefits for
pbbuttonsd using HAL and dbus?

  Best Regards
     Matthias

PBButtonsd 0.7.1 released - minor bugfix

[Matthias G. <mat...@us...>]

Hi,

version numbers ending with '0' never seems to be stable
for long. Pbbuttonsd isn't an exception from this rule
and so here it is: Version 0.7.1.

This release make the power management control scripts
POSIX compilant. They should work now even the underlying
shell is not bash.

The mountpoint search routine was improved. It finds the
mountpoint now even if the cdrom link contains a relative
device path.

The volume control is more comfortable now. It changes the
volume level in bigger steps by default and allows fine
tuning in conjunction with the shift modifier. In this
context a bug was fixed that caused the fine tuning to fail
on sound hardware with more than 100 volume steps.

Download is available as usual on. http://pbbuttons.sourceforge.net

  Best Regards
    Matthias

PBButtonsd Version 0.7.0 released - major bugfix

[Matthias G. <mat...@us...>]

Hi,

after two public beta versions I decided to release PBButtons 0.7.0 today.

This release fixes some serious bugs that caused busy loops. Furthermore
some bugs in the alsamixer module are fixed and the search algorithm for
the CDROM mountpoint was improved. The 'NoTapTyping' feature is now
disabled by default and the code was restructured to reduce ADB bus
load. For the complete list of changes please read Changelog.

The command line tool 'pbbcmd' got some new features and is able to
trigger server actions now. 

Download is available as usual on. http://pbbuttons.sourceforge.net

Best Regards
  Matthias

PowerPrefs 0.5.0 released - minor changes

[Matthias G. <mat...@us...>]

Hi,

I released PowerPrefs 0.5.0.

This release polish the interface a bit, updated the language files and
especially improve the german language file. Furthermore a tooltip to
the 'NoTapTyping' option was added that would give a recommendation to
solve the conflict between mouseemu and pbbuttonsd on this issue if both
programs were used.

Download is available under. http://pbbuttons.sourceforge.net

Best Regards
  Matthias

GtkPBButtons 0.6.8 released

[Matthias G. <mat...@us...>]

Hi,

I released GtkPBButtons 0.6.8.

A spanish language file was added in this release. The program itself is
unchanged.

Download is available under. http://pbbuttons.sourceforge.net

Best Regards
  Matthias

Re: pbbuttons with Debian on an iBook G4

[Dean H. <de...@bo...>]

vi /etc/pbbuttonsd.conf

Dean

flautist wrote:
> I'm having a problem getting it to work. When I close the lid to my
> laptop, the screen turns off, but the software does not suspend.
> Everything keeps on running. How do I fix this?
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pbbuttons with Debian on an iBook G4

[flautist <ilo...@gm...>]

I'm having a problem getting it to work. When I close the lid to my
laptop, the screen turns off, but the software does not suspend.
Everything keeps on running. How do I fix this?

PBButtonsd Beta Version 0.7.0beta2 released - major bugfix

[Matthias G. <mat...@us...>]

Hi,

I released a beta version of the comming pbbuttonsd 0.7.0.

In this beta version trackpad and keyboard will only be configured on
PowerBooks that have an ADB Trackpad and/or keyboard. Furthermore the
NoTapTyping function changed: Trackpad tap will now be disabled with
first key stroke and enabled with first mouse move. This will reduce
ADB bus load significantly. This might not solve the freeze problem,
but makes it much more unlikely.

Please test this version extensivly and report all problems. With
enough feedback we should get the release within a week. 

The source package could be dowloaded from the pbbuttonsd download
area of http://pbbuttons.sourceforge.net.

 Best Regards
   Matthias

PBButtonsd Beta Version 0.7.0beta1 released - major bugfix

[Matthias G. <mat...@us...>]

Hi,

I released a beta version of the comming pbbuttonsd 0.7.0.

This release fixes another busy loop problem. Furthermore the mute
function of the alsa mixer is fixed and the CDROM module finds the
mountpoint of a CDROM even if it's hidden behind symlinks. The
NoTapTyping option is now disabled by default as described in the man
page already. Some small fixes in the display module complete the
package.

The command line tool pbbcmd got some additional commands.

Please test this version extensivly and report all problems. With
enough feedback we should get the release within a week. 

The source package could be dowloaded from the pbbuttonsd download
area of http://pbbuttons.sourceforge.net.

 Best Regards
   Matthias

Re: [patch] Sensor behaviour

[Matthias G. <mat...@us...>]

On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 23:50:35 -0400
Kristian Benoit <kb...@op...> wrote:


Hi,
would you please test the attached file? You need to replace
it in the source tree and recompile.

It contains your patch with a slight modification. Because you
use an already modified version I send no patch. I hope this
is not a problem for you.

  Best Regards
     Matthias

Re: [patch] Sensor behaviour

[Matthias G. <mat...@us...>]

On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 23:50:35 -0400
Kristian Benoit <kb...@op...> wrote:

> I think the light sensor behaviour should be to use only from the sensor
> with the highest value. Cause I (and probably others) very often hide
> one of the sensor (usually when pressing esc/eject) then my lcd get
> darker, I remove my hand and it get brighter. I think it also is the way
> osx behave. So here's the patch.

Thanks for your work. I will have a look at your patch soon.

 Best Regards
   Matthias

[patch] Sensor behaviour

[Kristian B. <kb...@op...>]

I think the light sensor behaviour should be to use only from the sensor
with the highest value. Cause I (and probably others) very often hide
one of the sensor (usually when pressing esc/eject) then my lcd get
darker, I remove my hand and it get brighter. I think it also is the way
osx behave. So here's the patch.

have a good night and some happy dream's :)

Kristian

Re: Dim protection

[Matthias G. <mat...@us...>]

On Sat, 28 May 2005 12:39:06 -0400
hall <hal...@na...> wrote:

> This would be really useful. If there currently not any way to do it I
> thing it sould be pretty easy to code. If someone would spend bit of the
> time on this would be highly appreciated. ;)
> 
> my another question is why ALSA_lock patch was not included in 0.6.10
> and when it will be ?

I didn't accept this patch for the main source tree, because it is a
special solution for a special computer batch with a special sound
system running. It might work on certain machines, but what about all
the others?

And as you already could see if you read the discusson on gentoo and
your mail: It won't fit all needs. If I put this ALSA-lock code into the
main release, you will ask for a xine and mplayer lock and next week
somebody else request a whatsoever-lock. You see this might become an
endless jorney.

All these locks are already possible with a small script. You could use
the command line tool pbbcmd to get and set any pbbuttonsd option on the
fly. So it might be possible to deactivate dim and sleep just before
starting mplayer and to reactivate it later. see man pbbcmd for details.

This *-lock thing is currently for comfort only. If we found a more
generic way to implement different sleep and dim locks, that is able to
handle different souces and will work all machines not only the latest
ones, without the need to change the code every week, we could talk
again about this topic. Suggestions and even patches are welcome :-)

Every other solution will consume too much of my time and capacitance.
That's the reason why the ALSA-lock patch is not part of release 0.6.10.
Does this answered your question?

Nevertheless it's a nice piece of work and if it is usefull for you feel
free to use it. And maybe one time we get a generic solution for all this
dim and sleep lock stuff :-)

  Best Regards
    Matthias

Re: pbbuttons on Ubuntu with Apple Pismo G3

[John S. S. <to...@to...>]

On Sun, 2005-05-29 at 11:23 +0100, Karl Kashofer wrote:
> So my question is:
> Is it possible to permanently disable the internal speakers, but still
> be able to regulate volume via gktpbbuttons ?

Yes. From the sounds of things, you just need to change the
MixerChannels line in /etc/pbbuttonsd.conf.

cheers,

John

Re: pbbuttons on Ubuntu with Apple Pismo G3

[Karl K. <kar...@gm...>]

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As you have been so nice to reply to my questions, here is another one:

I use my Pismo mostly as a jukebox, and have it attached to my hifi
system via the line out. This works really nice, but there is one thing
which is slightly annoying.

Its the internal speakers in the powerbook. They seem to be regulated
differently to the line out, as they get very loud (and sound horrible)
compared to line out. I dont really need them so I wonder if there is a
way to switch them off ?

It should be possible, as when the powerbook wakes from sleep the line
out is still playing, yet the internal speakers are silenced. When I
then change the volume they come alive.

So my question is:
Is it possible to permanently disable the internal speakers, but still
be able to regulate volume via gktpbbuttons ?

Thanks,
Karl
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Dim protection

[hall <hal...@na...>]

hi.
I'm quite newbie to linux-laptop world. I have new ibook@G4/12" for a 3
weeks now. I have got everything managed pretty good.

I found ALSA_lock patch
(http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-2420632.html#2420632) that works
great. I'm wondering if there is any way to prevent onBattery_DimTime to
 be used while mplayer (or xine or anything you want) is running.

This would be really useful. If there currently not any way to do it I
thing it sould be pretty easy to code. If someone would spend bit of the
time on this would be highly appreciated. ;)

my another question is why ALSA_lock patch was not included in 0.6.10
and when it will be ?



thanks for a good job !
regards hall.

Re: pbbuttons on Ubuntu with Apple Pismo G3

[Matthias G. <mat...@us...>]

On Fri, 27 May 2005 22:11:49 +0100
Karl Kashofer <kar...@gm...> wrote:

> I have noticed the following:
> When I start "laptop-mode start" or when I unplug AC power the hdd noise
> stops, and the hdd spins down after some time.
> So actually all I want seems to happen when the system is on battery power.
> 
> Now all I want is to have the computer behave the same when its on AC.
> I tried the Laptop_Mode_Always_On setting in the laptop-mode script.
> I also have set AP power profile to "powersave" but none of these help.
> 
> I am not sure, but maybe pbbuttonsd 6.6 does not use the laptop-mode
> script, but uses its own one ? (As i see on some google thread you once
> had to use a separate laptop-mode script)

The behaviour of pbbuttonsd regarding the laptop-mode script has changed
during recent versions.

PBButtonsd 0.6.6: This version has its own copy of a early laptop-mode
script. It will be called every time the power profile changes. The
laptop-mode setup is independent of the active power source.

If you want to use this version with the laptop-mode-tools package, you
have to deactivate the powerscript scripts.d/bdflush (remove the link
event.d/bdflush) because this version didn't autodetect the
laptop-mode-tools package.

PBButtonsd 0.6.9: Starting with this version pbbuttonsd will call the
laptp-mode script of Bart Samwel, if it is installed. This script is
much more up-to-date than the built in script of pbbuttonsd. Because the
existence of the laptop-mode script will be automatically detected, the
pbbuttonsd default installation have not to be changed

Notes to Bart Samwels laptop-mode-tools: This script has it's own
powersource detection mechanism built in. If the script was called with
argument "auto" the script always reacts dependent on the current power
supply.

All current versions of this package mostly will run in "auto" mode,
even if called from pbbuttonsd. I sent a patch to Bart but he hasn't
released again yet. I suggest you write to Bart Samwel or file a bug to
the laptop-mode-tools debian package and tell him that you like to have
the laptop-mode controled by the pbbuttons power profile independent of
the current power supply.

But beside all this: If you doesn't have any problems with the
pbbuttonsd laptop-mode script, there is no urgent reason to switch over
to laptop-mode-tools. Never change a running system :-)

I hope this decription makes some package relations clear. I learned all
this again during writing this. So at least I myself will benefit from
it :-)

> So question is:
> Why can I not make the laptop do the same when on battery and on AC ?
> Where do I set the configuration parameters ? (e.g. spin-down time) ?

see above.
 
> I will try to install the debian packages for gtkpbbuttonsd, powerprefs
> and pbbuttonsd from the debian experimental, and tell you how badly it
> breaks later on.

I don't think it gets worse by installing the clients, but feedback is
always welcome. :-)

 Best Regards
   Matthias

Re: pbbuttons on Ubuntu with Apple Pismo G3

[Matthias G. <mat...@us...>]

On Sat, 28 May 2005 10:32:36 +0200
Matthias Grimm <mat...@us...> wrote:

> If you had more pbbuttons related questions, it would be fine if you post
> them on the pbbuttonsd mailinglist. You can find detailed information how
> to subscribe on the following web page:
>         http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pbbuttons-users

Sorry, I was completely confused. Forget the last paragraph.

  Best Regards
    Matthias

Re: pbbuttons on Ubuntu with Apple Pismo G3

[Matthias G. <mat...@us...>]

On Sat, 28 May 2005 01:45:27 +0100
Karl Kashofer <kar...@gm...> wrote:

> Would it be possible to have the small green light under the screen on
> the G3 (the one doing the heart-beat when sleeping) switched on when the
> screen is blanked ?

Not from user space, sorry. This is kernel business. There is an kernel
option that will use the LED as HD light so you will get some flickering
on HD activity if your machine is still running. There is no way to
control the LED from user space I know of, sorry.

> I see there is a heartbeep sound, which i gather is rather annoying, but
> just switching the small green light on when the screen is blanked would
> give an indication that the computer is still running.

Set HeartbeatBeep = no in the configuration file to get rid of the sound.

If you had more pbbuttons related questions, it would be fine if you post
them on the pbbuttonsd mailinglist. You can find detailed information how
to subscribe on the following web page:
        http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pbbuttons-users

 Best Regards
   Matthias