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From: <dm...@us...> - 2008-08-01 02:45:26
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This is going to be very hard to beleive Strangly on my 8GB ram machine I can do the make-world in 55 seconds with J-RTL and this is running under eclipse java debugger with very verbose loading. The C-RTL is 14 minutes. My eyeballs also show me the J-RTL running 40%-300% faster the C-RTL the webbrowser at the subl commandline and inference performance. However 'top' tells me that the J-RTL takes up 4x more memory than the C-RTL The java gets the edge I am guessing becasue of lazy destruction of objects that the C-RTL has to do complete object dellalocations. Your eyeballs on a machine with 3GB may be telling/told you the JRTL is 5-40 times *slower* than the CTRL!?! I think If you had 2GB more ram the Java version is going to be just as fast as the 8GB dump below If you can load only the opencyc KB into the J-RTL I think (now I am guessing) 3GB might more than enough and I'll bet it runs faster than the C-RTL. Some magic Cycorp firgured out is the java opimization switches With: java -server -Xmx7g -Xms4g -XX:MaxPermSize=256m -XX:+AggressiveOpts -XX:+UseBiasedLocking -XX:+UseFastAccessorMethods -XX:+RelaxAccessControlCheck -XX:-UseSpinning -XX:PreBlockSpin=10 -XX:+PrintCommandLineFlags -XX:+UseConcMarkSweepGC -XX:+CMSPermGenSweepingEnabled -XX:+UseAdaptiveGCBoundary Gives me the 55 second startup. (non debug its 40 seconds) With only: java -server -Xmx5g -XX:MaxPermSize=256m (these are the bare needs I think) Gives me a 210 second starup Also the J-RTL being in *.class files you can AOP/re-instrument how all the low level stuff works in CYC ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Fodor To: dm...@us... ; OpenCyc developers Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 6:59 PM Subject: Re: [OpenCyc-devel] OpenCyc on Ubuntu 7.10 On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 9:32 PM, <dm...@us...> wrote: > Paul, > Have you tried the Java RTLs of ResearchCyc? No. I think you are right and it will work, but I don't know what is the performance difference. I am interested in testing the performance of the Cyc inference engine. I was always under the impression that Java based implementations are slower than the original systems. I don't know if this is the case with ResearchCyc. Do you know anything about this? Thanks you, regards, Paul. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Paul Fodor > To: OpenCyc developers > Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 10:47 AM > Subject: Re: [OpenCyc-devel] OpenCyc on Ubuntu 7.10 > Thanks Yeb. I think I tried all versions of ResearchCyc and OpenCyc on our Ubuntu server (Ubuntu 7.10, 32bits architecture with 3Gb RAM). All except OpenCyc 0.9 give the error at initialization (see previous emails). > OpenCyc 0.9 doesn't give an error at initialization or the server (see below), but once I try to connect with the browser (to the URI: "http://127.0.0.1:3602/cgi-bin/cyccgi/cg?cb-start") it gives "Segmentation fault". > > I guess I will make my programs in the Windows version of ResearchCyc, which seems to work. > > Trace for segmentation fault: > /usr/share/opencyc-0.9/run/bin/latest.bin -w /usr/share/opencyc-0.9/run/world/startWorld.load > > Loading statics. > Mapping in the memory image. > Running initializers ... PROCESS (16391), PROCESS (16414), done. > Reconnected to shared object RED Library (auto-loaded). > Cyc 10 (Linux 32-bit) > Copyright (C) 1995 - 2005 Cycorp, Inc. All rights reserved. > RTL (Green Threads/ASM Contexts) initialized. > CycL Initialized. > Initializing file-backed caches. > Warning: Unable to find file hashtable: data/caches/0001/generic-singular-nl-generation-fort-cache.fht > Enabling base TCP services to port 3600. > > Ready for services. > Process ID: 12488 > System 1.8084 KB 2. > CYC(1): Error: Received signal 8 SIGFPE (Erroneous arithmetic operation). > Note: Running in #<PROCESS Port 3602 server dispatcher "Run" 4ABB01E4>. > [Switching to single-threaded mode ....] > > Select a restart: > 0: Continue waiting for connections. > 1: Restart process Port 3602 server dispatcher. > 2: Exit process Port 3602 server dispatcher. > 3: Recursive read loop. > 4: Exit program. > ? 0 > [Resuming multi-threaded mode ....] > Segmentation fault > > > > On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Yeb Havinga <yeb...@po...> wrote: >> >> dm...@us... wrote: >> > http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=27274 >> > >> > Oops 1.06 is 1.02 >> > I'd give 0.9 a try for sanity to make sure it's not just a Ubuntu thing >> > opencyc-0.9.0-Suse91.tgz >> > <http://downloads.sourceforge.net/opencyc/opencyc-0.9.0-Suse91.tgz?modtime=1109427630&big_mirror=0> >> > Mirror >> > <http://sourceforge.net/project/mirror_picker.php?height=350&width=300&group_id=27274&use_mirror=voxel&filename=opencyc-0.9.0-Suse91.tgz&abmode=> >> Hi all, >> >> For what it's worth. I've used the latest version of opencyc on a recent >> (half year) debian x86_64 as well as Ubuntu 8.10 (intrepid) x86_64, >> using the suse opencyc binary. Both recent intel processors (EM64T) as >> amd processors support amd's 64 bit architecture. (Do not confuse intels >> IA64 for the itanium with EM64T) >> >> regards, >> Yeb >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge >> Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes >> Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world >> http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ >> _______________________________________________ >> OpenCyc-devel mailing list >> Ope...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opencyc-devel > > ________________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > > ________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > OpenCyc-devel mailing list > Ope...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opencyc-devel > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > _______________________________________________ > OpenCyc-devel mailing list > Ope...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opencyc-devel > Thank you, Paul Fodor ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ OpenCyc-devel mailing list Ope...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opencyc-devel |
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From: Paul F. <pf...@cs...> - 2008-08-01 01:59:18
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On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 9:32 PM, <dm...@us...> wrote: > Paul, > Have you tried the Java RTLs of ResearchCyc? No. I think you are right and it will work, but I don't know what is the performance difference. I am interested in testing the performance of the Cyc inference engine. I was always under the impression that Java based implementations are slower than the original systems. I don't know if this is the case with ResearchCyc. Do you know anything about this? Thanks you, regards, Paul. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Paul Fodor > To: OpenCyc developers > Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 10:47 AM > Subject: Re: [OpenCyc-devel] OpenCyc on Ubuntu 7.10 > Thanks Yeb. I think I tried all versions of ResearchCyc and OpenCyc on our Ubuntu server (Ubuntu 7.10, 32bits architecture with 3Gb RAM). All except OpenCyc 0.9 give the error at initialization (see previous emails). > OpenCyc 0.9 doesn't give an error at initialization or the server (see below), but once I try to connect with the browser (to the URI: " http://127.0.0.1:3602/cgi-bin/cyccgi/cg?cb-start") it gives "Segmentation fault". > > I guess I will make my programs in the Windows version of ResearchCyc, which seems to work. > > Trace for segmentation fault: > /usr/share/opencyc-0.9/run/bin/latest.bin -w /usr/share/opencyc-0.9/run/world/startWorld.load > > Loading statics. > Mapping in the memory image. > Running initializers ... PROCESS (16391), PROCESS (16414), done. > Reconnected to shared object RED Library (auto-loaded). > Cyc 10 (Linux 32-bit) > Copyright (C) 1995 - 2005 Cycorp, Inc. All rights reserved. > RTL (Green Threads/ASM Contexts) initialized. > CycL Initialized. > Initializing file-backed caches. > Warning: Unable to find file hashtable: data/caches/0001/generic-singular-nl-generation-fort-cache.fht > Enabling base TCP services to port 3600. > > Ready for services. > Process ID: 12488 > System 1.8084 KB 2. > CYC(1): Error: Received signal 8 SIGFPE (Erroneous arithmetic operation). > Note: Running in #<PROCESS Port 3602 server dispatcher "Run" 4ABB01E4>. > [Switching to single-threaded mode ....] > > Select a restart: > 0: Continue waiting for connections. > 1: Restart process Port 3602 server dispatcher. > 2: Exit process Port 3602 server dispatcher. > 3: Recursive read loop. > 4: Exit program. > ? 0 > [Resuming multi-threaded mode ....] > Segmentation fault > > > > On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Yeb Havinga <yeb...@po...> wrote: >> >> dm...@us... wrote: >> > http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=27274 >> > >> > Oops 1.06 is 1.02 >> > I'd give 0.9 a try for sanity to make sure it's not just a Ubuntu thing >> > opencyc-0.9.0-Suse91.tgz >> > < http://downloads.sourceforge.net/opencyc/opencyc-0.9.0-Suse91.tgz?modtime=1109427630&big_mirror=0 > >> > Mirror >> > < http://sourceforge.net/project/mirror_picker.php?height=350&width=300&group_id=27274&use_mirror=voxel&filename=opencyc-0.9.0-Suse91.tgz&abmode= > >> Hi all, >> >> For what it's worth. I've used the latest version of opencyc on a recent >> (half year) debian x86_64 as well as Ubuntu 8.10 (intrepid) x86_64, >> using the suse opencyc binary. Both recent intel processors (EM64T) as >> amd processors support amd's 64 bit architecture. (Do not confuse intels >> IA64 for the itanium with EM64T) >> >> regards, >> Yeb >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge >> Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes >> Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world >> http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ >> _______________________________________________ >> OpenCyc-devel mailing list >> Ope...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opencyc-devel > > ________________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > > ________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > OpenCyc-devel mailing list > Ope...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opencyc-devel > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > _______________________________________________ > OpenCyc-devel mailing list > Ope...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opencyc-devel > Thank you, Paul Fodor |
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From: <dm...@us...> - 2008-08-01 01:30:54
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Paul,
Have you tried the Java RTLs of ResearchCyc?
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Fodor
To: OpenCyc developers
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: [OpenCyc-devel] OpenCyc on Ubuntu 7.10
Thanks Yeb. I think I tried all versions of ResearchCyc and OpenCyc on our Ubuntu server (Ubuntu 7.10, 32bits architecture with 3Gb RAM). All except OpenCyc 0.9 give the error at initialization (see previous emails).
OpenCyc 0.9 doesn't give an error at initialization or the server (see below), but once I try to connect with the browser (to the URI: "http://127.0.0.1:3602/cgi-bin/cyccgi/cg?cb-start") it gives "Segmentation fault".
I guess I will make my programs in the Windows version of ResearchCyc, which seems to work.
Trace for segmentation fault:
/usr/share/opencyc-0.9/run/bin/latest.bin -w /usr/share/opencyc-0.9/run/world/startWorld.load
Loading statics.
Mapping in the memory image.
Running initializers ... PROCESS (16391), PROCESS (16414), done.
Reconnected to shared object RED Library (auto-loaded).
Cyc 10 (Linux 32-bit)
Copyright (C) 1995 - 2005 Cycorp, Inc. All rights reserved.
RTL (Green Threads/ASM Contexts) initialized.
CycL Initialized.
Initializing file-backed caches.
Warning: Unable to find file hashtable: data/caches/0001/generic-singular-nl-generation-fort-cache.fht
Enabling base TCP services to port 3600.
Ready for services.
Process ID: 12488
System 1.8084 KB 2.
CYC(1): Error: Received signal 8 SIGFPE (Erroneous arithmetic operation).
Note: Running in #<PROCESS Port 3602 server dispatcher "Run" 4ABB01E4>.
[Switching to single-threaded mode ....]
Select a restart:
0: Continue waiting for connections.
1: Restart process Port 3602 server dispatcher.
2: Exit process Port 3602 server dispatcher.
3: Recursive read loop.
4: Exit program.
? 0
[Resuming multi-threaded mode ....]
Segmentation fault
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Yeb Havinga <yeb...@po...> wrote:
dm...@us... wrote:
> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=27274
>
> Oops 1.06 is 1.02
> I'd give 0.9 a try for sanity to make sure it's not just a Ubuntu thing
> opencyc-0.9.0-Suse91.tgz
> <http://downloads.sourceforge.net/opencyc/opencyc-0.9.0-Suse91.tgz?modtime=1109427630&big_mirror=0>
> Mirror
> <http://sourceforge.net/project/mirror_picker.php?height=350&width=300&group_id=27274&use_mirror=voxel&filename=opencyc-0.9.0-Suse91.tgz&abmode=>
Hi all,
For what it's worth. I've used the latest version of opencyc on a recent
(half year) debian x86_64 as well as Ubuntu 8.10 (intrepid) x86_64,
using the suse opencyc binary. Both recent intel processors (EM64T) as
amd processors support amd's 64 bit architecture. (Do not confuse intels
IA64 for the itanium with EM64T)
regards,
Yeb
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From: Paul F. <pf...@cs...> - 2008-07-31 17:47:08
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Thanks Yeb. I think I tried all versions of ResearchCyc and OpenCyc on our Ubuntu server (Ubuntu 7.10, 32bits architecture with 3Gb RAM). All except OpenCyc 0.9 give the error at initialization (see previous emails). OpenCyc 0.9 doesn't give an error at initialization or the server (see below), but once I try to connect with the browser (to the URI: " http://127.0.0.1:3602/cgi-bin/cyccgi/cg?cb-start") it gives "Segmentation fault". I guess I will make my programs in the Windows version of ResearchCyc, which seems to work. Trace for segmentation fault: /usr/share/opencyc-0.9/run/bin/latest.bin -w /usr/share/opencyc-0.9/run/world/startWorld.load Loading statics. Mapping in the memory image. Running initializers ... PROCESS (16391), PROCESS (16414), done. Reconnected to shared object RED Library (auto-loaded). Cyc 10 (Linux 32-bit) Copyright (C) 1995 - 2005 Cycorp, Inc. All rights reserved. RTL (Green Threads/ASM Contexts) initialized. CycL Initialized. Initializing file-backed caches. Warning: Unable to find file hashtable: data/caches/0001/generic-singular-nl-generation-fort-cache.fht Enabling base TCP services to port 3600. Ready for services. Process ID: 12488 System 1.8084 KB 2. CYC(1): Error: Received signal 8 SIGFPE (Erroneous arithmetic operation). Note: Running in #<PROCESS Port 3602 server dispatcher "Run" 4ABB01E4>. [Switching to single-threaded mode ....] Select a restart: 0: Continue waiting for connections. 1: Restart process Port 3602 server dispatcher. 2: Exit process Port 3602 server dispatcher. 3: Recursive read loop. 4: Exit program. ? 0 [Resuming multi-threaded mode ....] Segmentation fault On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Yeb Havinga <yeb...@po...>wrote: > dm...@us... wrote: > > http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=27274 > > > > Oops 1.06 is 1.02 > > I'd give 0.9 a try for sanity to make sure it's not just a Ubuntu thing > > opencyc-0.9.0-Suse91.tgz > > < > http://downloads.sourceforge.net/opencyc/opencyc-0.9.0-Suse91.tgz?modtime=1109427630&big_mirror=0 > > > > Mirror > > < > http://sourceforge.net/project/mirror_picker.php?height=350&width=300&group_id=27274&use_mirror=voxel&filename=opencyc-0.9.0-Suse91.tgz&abmode= > > > Hi all, > > For what it's worth. I've used the latest version of opencyc on a recent > (half year) debian x86_64 as well as Ubuntu 8.10 (intrepid) x86_64, > using the suse opencyc binary. Both recent intel processors (EM64T) as > amd processors support amd's 64 bit architecture. (Do not confuse intels > IA64 for the itanium with EM64T) > > regards, > Yeb > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's > challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great > prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > _______________________________________________ > OpenCyc-devel mailing list > Ope...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opencyc-devel > |
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From: Yeb H. <yeb...@po...> - 2008-07-31 17:37:10
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dm...@us... wrote: > http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=27274 > > Oops 1.06 is 1.02 > I'd give 0.9 a try for sanity to make sure it's not just a Ubuntu thing > opencyc-0.9.0-Suse91.tgz > <http://downloads.sourceforge.net/opencyc/opencyc-0.9.0-Suse91.tgz?modtime=1109427630&big_mirror=0> > Mirror > <http://sourceforge.net/project/mirror_picker.php?height=350&width=300&group_id=27274&use_mirror=voxel&filename=opencyc-0.9.0-Suse91.tgz&abmode=> Hi all, For what it's worth. I've used the latest version of opencyc on a recent (half year) debian x86_64 as well as Ubuntu 8.10 (intrepid) x86_64, using the suse opencyc binary. Both recent intel processors (EM64T) as amd processors support amd's 64 bit architecture. (Do not confuse intels IA64 for the itanium with EM64T) regards, Yeb |
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From: <dm...@us...> - 2008-07-31 02:13:37
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http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=27274 Oops 1.06 is 1.02 I'd give 0.9 a try for sanity to make sure it's not just a Ubuntu thing opencyc-0.9.0-Suse91.tgz Mirror ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Fodor To: dm...@us... ; OpenCyc developers Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 6:29 PM Subject: Re: [OpenCyc-devel] OpenCyc on Ubuntu 7.10 On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 7:59 PM, <dm...@us...> wrote: > > I seem to remember this showstopper myself, Its possible that this release of OpenCyc was invaliuable to Win32 ports, But its possible you'll need to try a different version of Opencyc. > > What version was this again? 1.0, 0.9, 1.06 etc. OpenCyc 1.0 from http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=27274 Is there a OpenCyc 1.06? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Paul Fodor > To: dm...@us... ; OpenCyc developers > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 4:36 PM > Subject: Re: [OpenCyc-devel] OpenCyc on Ubuntu 7.10 > Thank you for the response. I tried with the SuSE version, but I still get the same error while "performing initialization" (please see the trace below). > > Command: > /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/bin/opencyc-SuSE-9.2-x86_32.bin -f "(open-cyc-load-kb \"/usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/\")" > Trace: > ... > Loading lexicon cache > Performing initializations > A SYMBOL at 0xb7dc001c is not a integerp. > [Switching to single-threaded mode ....] > Select a restart: > 0: Skip running init form. > 1: Recursive read loop. > 2: Exit program. > ? > > The CYC KB units seem to be there: > > ls /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/ > > arg-type-cache.cfasl deduction-index.cfasl > assertion.cfasl indices.cfasl > assertion-index.cfasl lexicon-cache.cfasl > assertion-indices.cfasl misc.cfasl > assertion-shell.cfasl nat-indices.cfasl > auxiliary-indices.cfasl nat-shell.cfasl > bookkeeping-assertions.cfasl rule-set.cfasl > bookkeeping-indices.cfasl rule-utility-experience.cfasl > cardinality-estimates.cfasl sbhl-cache.cfasl > clause-struc.cfasl sbhl-modules.cfasl > constant-shell.cfasl sbhl-time.cfasl > constant-shell.text special.cfasl > deduction.cfasl tva-cache.cfasl > > Trace for running with SuSE: > > /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/bin/opencyc-SuSE-9.2-x86_32.bin -f "(open-cyc-load-kb \"/usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/\")" > > Cyc 10 (Linux 32-bit) > Copyright (C) 1995 - 2006 Cycorp, Inc. All rights reserved. > RTL (Green Threads/ASM Contexts) initialized. > CycL Initialized. > Warning: System parameters file (init/parameters.lisp) not loaded. > Warning: No KB is loaded. System KB initializations will not be run. > Process ID: 23152 > System 1.11058.2.20.2.3. > Loading init form "(open-cyc-load-kb \"/usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/\")". > > Loading special objects > Loading constant shells > Freeing clause-strucs > [ DONE (0:00) ] > Freeing deductions > [ DONE (0:00) ] > Freeing assertions > [ DONE (0:00) ] > Freeing NARTs > [ DONE (0:00) ] > Freeing constants > [ DONE (0:00) ] > Loading constant shells > [ 30% 40% 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100% DONE (0:07) ] > Determining maximum constant SUID > [ DONE (0:00) ] > > Loading NART shells > Loading NART shells > [ DONE (0:00) ] > Determining maximum NART ID > [ DONE (0:01) ] > > Loading assertion shells > Loading assertion shells > [ 30% 40% 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100% DONE (0:07) ] > Determining maximum assertion ID > [ DONE (0:01) ] > > Loading clause-struc definitions > Loading clause-struc definitions > [ DONE (0:00) ] > Determining maximum clause-struc ID > [ DONE (0:00) ] > > Loading deduction definitions > Deduction definitions will be swapped in lazily from /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/deduction.cfasl and /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/deduction-index.cfasl > Initializing deduction handles only > [ DONE (0:01) ] > Warning: HL Store directory could not be set to absolute directory /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/ > Warning: Guessing HL Store location of units/0NIL/ > Warning: Could not initialize HL store caches from /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/. > Determining maximum deduction ID > [ DONE (0:00) ] > > Loading assertion definitions > Assertion definitions will be swapped in lazily from /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/assertion.cfasl and /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/assertion-index.cfasl > Warning: HL Store directory could not be set to absolute directory /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/ > Warning: Could not initialize HL store caches from /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/. > > Loading bookkeeping assertions > Loading experience > Loading constant indices > Loading constant indices > [ 10% 20% 30% 40% 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100% DONE (0:19) ] > > Loading NART indices > Loading NART indices > [ DONE (0:03) ] > > Loading Assertion indices > Loading Assertion indices > [ DONE (0:00) ] > > Loading rule set > Loading miscellaneous stuff > Loading sbhl graphs > Loading sbhl time state > Loading sbhl cache > Loading cardinality estimates > Loading arg-type cache > Loading TVA cache > Loading lexicon cache > > Performing initializations > A SYMBOL at 0xb7dc001c is not a integerp. > [Switching to single-threaded mode ....] > > Select a restart: > 0: Skip running init form. > 1: Recursive read loop. > 2: Exit program. > ? > > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 7:29 PM, <dm...@us...> wrote: >> >> The units from The opencyc version with 5006 might be missing from the gz, >> >> Due to: >> >> Warning: HL Store directory could not be set to absolute directory /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/ >> Warning: Guessing HL Store location of units/0NIL/ >> Warning: Could not initialize HL store caches from /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/. >> >> If this is the case, then go one opencyc version forward or backwards. >> >> >> But most likely you should try the SuSE bin, its seems to be the best for every system, even including the systems that had corrisponding binaries. >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Paul Fodor >> To: ope...@li... >> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 3:13 PM >> Subject: [OpenCyc-devel] OpenCyc on Ubuntu 7.10 >> To: ope...@li... >> >> Dear Sir, >> I am trying to use OpenCyc on Ubuntu 7.10. I understood that there is no compilation for Ubuntu, so I am trying to use the one for RedHat 7.1, but I get an error at initialization (please see below). We can skip this error, but I guess no initialization is done, so we cannot use the knowledge base. Can we still use the inference engine? >> I wonder if the sources for OpenCyc are available, so we can compile it under Ubuntu. >> Thank you, >> Paul Fodor. >> >> Command: >> /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/bin/opencyc-RH-7.1-x86_32.bin -f "(open-cyc-load-kb \"/usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/\")" >> >> Cyc 10 (Linux 32-bit) >> Copyright (C) 1995 - 2006 Cycorp, Inc. All rights reserved. >> RTL (Green Threads/ASM Contexts) initialized. >> CycL Initialized. >> Warning: System parameters file (init/parameters.lisp) not loaded. >> Warning: No KB is loaded. System KB initializations will not be run. >> Process ID: 21049 >> System 1.11058.2.20.2.3. >> Loading init form "(open-cyc-load-kb \"/usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/\")". >> >> Loading special objects >> Loading constant shells >> Freeing clause-strucs >> [ DONE (0:00) ] >> Freeing deductions >> [ DONE (0:00) ] >> Freeing assertions >> [ DONE (0:01) ] >> Freeing NARTs >> [ DONE (0:00) ] >> Freeing constants >> [ DONE (0:00) ] >> Loading constant shells >> [ 10% 30% 40% 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100% DONE (0:07) ] >> Determining maximum constant SUID >> [ DONE (0:00) ] >> >> Loading NART shells >> Loading NART shells >> [ DONE (0:01) ] >> Determining maximum NART ID >> [ DONE (0:00) ] >> >> Loading assertion shells >> Loading assertion shells >> [ 10% 20% 30% 40% 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100% DONE (0:07) ] >> Determining maximum assertion ID >> [ 10% DONE (0:02) ] >> >> Loading clause-struc definitions >> Loading clause-struc definitions >> [ DONE (0:00) ] >> Determining maximum clause-struc ID >> [ DONE (0:00) ] >> >> Loading deduction definitions >> Deduction definitions will be swapped in lazily from /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/deduction.cfasl and /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/deduction-index.cfasl >> Initializing deduction handles only >> [ DONE (0:01) ] >> Warning: HL Store directory could not be set to absolute directory /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/ >> Warning: Guessing HL Store location of units/0NIL/ >> Warning: Could not initialize HL store caches from /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/. >> Determining maximum deduction ID >> [ DONE (0:00) ] >> >> Loading assertion definitions >> Assertion definitions will be swapped in lazily from /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/assertion.cfasl and /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/assertion-index.cfasl >> Warning: HL Store directory could not be set to absolute directory /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/ >> Warning: Could not initialize HL store caches from /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/. >> >> Loading bookkeeping assertions >> Loading experience >> Loading constant indices >> Loading constant indices >> [ 10% 20% 30% 40% 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100% DONE (0:20) ] >> >> Loading NART indices >> Loading NART indices >> [ DONE (0:03) ] >> >> Loading Assertion indices >> Loading Assertion indices >> [ DONE (0:00) ] >> >> Loading rule set >> Loading miscellaneous stuff >> Loading sbhl graphs >> Loading sbhl time state >> Loading sbhl cache >> Loading cardinality estimates >> Loading arg-type cache >> Loading TVA cache >> Loading lexicon cache >> Performing initializations >> A SYMBOL at 0xb7e3001c is not a integerp. >> [Switching to single-threaded mode ....] >> >> Select a restart: >> 0: Skip running init form. >> 1: Recursive read loop. >> 2: Exit program. >> ? 0 >> [Resuming multi-threaded mode ....] >> Done. >> CYC(1): console waiting >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge >> Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes >> Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world >> http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ >> >> ________________________________ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OpenCyc-devel mailing list >> Ope...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opencyc-devel >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge >> Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes >> Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world >> http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ >> _______________________________________________ >> OpenCyc-devel mailing list >> Ope...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opencyc-devel >> > > ________________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > > ________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > OpenCyc-devel mailing list > Ope...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opencyc-devel > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > _______________________________________________ > OpenCyc-devel mailing list > Ope...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opencyc-devel > |
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From: Paul F. <pf...@cs...> - 2008-07-31 01:29:29
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On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 7:59 PM, <dm...@us...> wrote: > > I seem to remember this showstopper myself, Its possible that this release of OpenCyc was invaliuable to Win32 ports, But its possible you'll need to try a different version of Opencyc. > > What version was this again? 1.0, 0.9, 1.06 etc. OpenCyc 1.0 from http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=27274 Is there a OpenCyc 1.06? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Paul Fodor > To: dm...@us... ; OpenCyc developers > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 4:36 PM > Subject: Re: [OpenCyc-devel] OpenCyc on Ubuntu 7.10 > Thank you for the response. I tried with the SuSE version, but I still get the same error while "performing initialization" (please see the trace below). > > Command: > /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/bin/opencyc-SuSE-9.2-x86_32.bin -f "(open-cyc-load-kb \"/usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/\")" > Trace: > ... > Loading lexicon cache > Performing initializations > A SYMBOL at 0xb7dc001c is not a integerp. > [Switching to single-threaded mode ....] > Select a restart: > 0: Skip running init form. > 1: Recursive read loop. > 2: Exit program. > ? > > The CYC KB units seem to be there: > > ls /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/ > > arg-type-cache.cfasl deduction-index.cfasl > assertion.cfasl indices.cfasl > assertion-index.cfasl lexicon-cache.cfasl > assertion-indices.cfasl misc.cfasl > assertion-shell.cfasl nat-indices.cfasl > auxiliary-indices.cfasl nat-shell.cfasl > bookkeeping-assertions.cfasl rule-set.cfasl > bookkeeping-indices.cfasl rule-utility-experience.cfasl > cardinality-estimates.cfasl sbhl-cache.cfasl > clause-struc.cfasl sbhl-modules.cfasl > constant-shell.cfasl sbhl-time.cfasl > constant-shell.text special.cfasl > deduction.cfasl tva-cache.cfasl > > Trace for running with SuSE: > > /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/bin/opencyc-SuSE-9.2-x86_32.bin -f "(open-cyc-load-kb \"/usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/\")" > > Cyc 10 (Linux 32-bit) > Copyright (C) 1995 - 2006 Cycorp, Inc. All rights reserved. > RTL (Green Threads/ASM Contexts) initialized. > CycL Initialized. > Warning: System parameters file (init/parameters.lisp) not loaded. > Warning: No KB is loaded. System KB initializations will not be run. > Process ID: 23152 > System 1.11058.2.20.2.3. > Loading init form "(open-cyc-load-kb \"/usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/\")". > > Loading special objects > Loading constant shells > Freeing clause-strucs > [ DONE (0:00) ] > Freeing deductions > [ DONE (0:00) ] > Freeing assertions > [ DONE (0:00) ] > Freeing NARTs > [ DONE (0:00) ] > Freeing constants > [ DONE (0:00) ] > Loading constant shells > [ 30% 40% 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100% DONE (0:07) ] > Determining maximum constant SUID > [ DONE (0:00) ] > > Loading NART shells > Loading NART shells > [ DONE (0:00) ] > Determining maximum NART ID > [ DONE (0:01) ] > > Loading assertion shells > Loading assertion shells > [ 30% 40% 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100% DONE (0:07) ] > Determining maximum assertion ID > [ DONE (0:01) ] > > Loading clause-struc definitions > Loading clause-struc definitions > [ DONE (0:00) ] > Determining maximum clause-struc ID > [ DONE (0:00) ] > > Loading deduction definitions > Deduction definitions will be swapped in lazily from /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/deduction.cfasl and /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/deduction-index.cfasl > Initializing deduction handles only > [ DONE (0:01) ] > Warning: HL Store directory could not be set to absolute directory /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/ > Warning: Guessing HL Store location of units/0NIL/ > Warning: Could not initialize HL store caches from /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/. > Determining maximum deduction ID > [ DONE (0:00) ] > > Loading assertion definitions > Assertion definitions will be swapped in lazily from /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/assertion.cfasl and /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/assertion-index.cfasl > Warning: HL Store directory could not be set to absolute directory /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/ > Warning: Could not initialize HL store caches from /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/. > > Loading bookkeeping assertions > Loading experience > Loading constant indices > Loading constant indices > [ 10% 20% 30% 40% 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100% DONE (0:19) ] > > Loading NART indices > Loading NART indices > [ DONE (0:03) ] > > Loading Assertion indices > Loading Assertion indices > [ DONE (0:00) ] > > Loading rule set > Loading miscellaneous stuff > Loading sbhl graphs > Loading sbhl time state > Loading sbhl cache > Loading cardinality estimates > Loading arg-type cache > Loading TVA cache > Loading lexicon cache > > Performing initializations > A SYMBOL at 0xb7dc001c is not a integerp. > [Switching to single-threaded mode ....] > > Select a restart: > 0: Skip running init form. > 1: Recursive read loop. > 2: Exit program. > ? > > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 7:29 PM, <dm...@us...> wrote: >> >> The units from The opencyc version with 5006 might be missing from the gz, >> >> Due to: >> >> Warning: HL Store directory could not be set to absolute directory /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/ >> Warning: Guessing HL Store location of units/0NIL/ >> Warning: Could not initialize HL store caches from /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/. >> >> If this is the case, then go one opencyc version forward or backwards. >> >> >> But most likely you should try the SuSE bin, its seems to be the best for every system, even including the systems that had corrisponding binaries. >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Paul Fodor >> To: ope...@li... >> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 3:13 PM >> Subject: [OpenCyc-devel] OpenCyc on Ubuntu 7.10 >> To: ope...@li... >> >> Dear Sir, >> I am trying to use OpenCyc on Ubuntu 7.10. I understood that there is no compilation for Ubuntu, so I am trying to use the one for RedHat 7.1, but I get an error at initialization (please see below). We can skip this error, but I guess no initialization is done, so we cannot use the knowledge base. Can we still use the inference engine? >> I wonder if the sources for OpenCyc are available, so we can compile it under Ubuntu. >> Thank you, >> Paul Fodor. >> >> Command: >> /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/bin/opencyc-RH-7.1-x86_32.bin -f "(open-cyc-load-kb \"/usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/\")" >> >> Cyc 10 (Linux 32-bit) >> Copyright (C) 1995 - 2006 Cycorp, Inc. All rights reserved. >> RTL (Green Threads/ASM Contexts) initialized. >> CycL Initialized. >> Warning: System parameters file (init/parameters.lisp) not loaded. >> Warning: No KB is loaded. System KB initializations will not be run. >> Process ID: 21049 >> System 1.11058.2.20.2.3. >> Loading init form "(open-cyc-load-kb \"/usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/\")". >> >> Loading special objects >> Loading constant shells >> Freeing clause-strucs >> [ DONE (0:00) ] >> Freeing deductions >> [ DONE (0:00) ] >> Freeing assertions >> [ DONE (0:01) ] >> Freeing NARTs >> [ DONE (0:00) ] >> Freeing constants >> [ DONE (0:00) ] >> Loading constant shells >> [ 10% 30% 40% 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100% DONE (0:07) ] >> Determining maximum constant SUID >> [ DONE (0:00) ] >> >> Loading NART shells >> Loading NART shells >> [ DONE (0:01) ] >> Determining maximum NART ID >> [ DONE (0:00) ] >> >> Loading assertion shells >> Loading assertion shells >> [ 10% 20% 30% 40% 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100% DONE (0:07) ] >> Determining maximum assertion ID >> [ 10% DONE (0:02) ] >> >> Loading clause-struc definitions >> Loading clause-struc definitions >> [ DONE (0:00) ] >> Determining maximum clause-struc ID >> [ DONE (0:00) ] >> >> Loading deduction definitions >> Deduction definitions will be swapped in lazily from /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/deduction.cfasl and /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/deduction-index.cfasl >> Initializing deduction handles only >> [ DONE (0:01) ] >> Warning: HL Store directory could not be set to absolute directory /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/ >> Warning: Guessing HL Store location of units/0NIL/ >> Warning: Could not initialize HL store caches from /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/. >> Determining maximum deduction ID >> [ DONE (0:00) ] >> >> Loading assertion definitions >> Assertion definitions will be swapped in lazily from /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/assertion.cfasl and /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/assertion-index.cfasl >> Warning: HL Store directory could not be set to absolute directory /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/ >> Warning: Could not initialize HL store caches from /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/. >> >> Loading bookkeeping assertions >> Loading experience >> Loading constant indices >> Loading constant indices >> [ 10% 20% 30% 40% 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100% DONE (0:20) ] >> >> Loading NART indices >> Loading NART indices >> [ DONE (0:03) ] >> >> Loading Assertion indices >> Loading Assertion indices >> [ DONE (0:00) ] >> >> Loading rule set >> Loading miscellaneous stuff >> Loading sbhl graphs >> Loading sbhl time state >> Loading sbhl cache >> Loading cardinality estimates >> Loading arg-type cache >> Loading TVA cache >> Loading lexicon cache >> Performing initializations >> A SYMBOL at 0xb7e3001c is not a integerp. >> [Switching to single-threaded mode ....] >> >> Select a restart: >> 0: Skip running init form. >> 1: Recursive read loop. >> 2: Exit program. >> ? 0 >> [Resuming multi-threaded mode ....] >> Done. >> CYC(1): console waiting >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge >> Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes >> Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world >> http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ >> >> ________________________________ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OpenCyc-devel mailing list >> Ope...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opencyc-devel >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge >> Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes >> Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world >> http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ >> _______________________________________________ >> OpenCyc-devel mailing list >> Ope...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opencyc-devel >> > > ________________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > > ________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > OpenCyc-devel mailing list > Ope...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opencyc-devel > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > _______________________________________________ > OpenCyc-devel mailing list > Ope...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opencyc-devel > |
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From: <dm...@us...> - 2008-07-30 23:57:38
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I seem to remember this showstopper myself, Its possible that this release of OpenCyc was invaliuable to Win32 ports, But its possible you'll need to try a different version of Opencyc.
What version was this again? 1.0, 0.9, 1.06 etc.
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Fodor
To: dm...@us... ; OpenCyc developers
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: [OpenCyc-devel] OpenCyc on Ubuntu 7.10
Thank you for the response. I tried with the SuSE version, but I still get the same error while "performing initialization" (please see the trace below).
Command:
/usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/bin/opencyc-SuSE-9.2-x86_32.bin -f "(open-cyc-load-kb \"/usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/\")"
Trace:
...
Loading lexicon cache
Performing initializations
A SYMBOL at 0xb7dc001c is not a integerp.
[Switching to single-threaded mode ....]
Select a restart:
0: Skip running init form.
1: Recursive read loop.
2: Exit program.
?
The CYC KB units seem to be there:
ls /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/
arg-type-cache.cfasl deduction-index.cfasl
assertion.cfasl indices.cfasl
assertion-index.cfasl lexicon-cache.cfasl
assertion-indices.cfasl misc.cfasl
assertion-shell.cfasl nat-indices.cfasl
auxiliary-indices.cfasl nat-shell.cfasl
bookkeeping-assertions.cfasl rule-set.cfasl
bookkeeping-indices.cfasl rule-utility-experience.cfasl
cardinality-estimates.cfasl sbhl-cache.cfasl
clause-struc.cfasl sbhl-modules.cfasl
constant-shell.cfasl sbhl-time.cfasl
constant-shell.text special.cfasl
deduction.cfasl tva-cache.cfasl
Trace for running with SuSE:
/usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/bin/opencyc-SuSE-9.2-x86_32.bin -f "(open-cyc-load-kb \"/usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/\")"
Cyc 10 (Linux 32-bit)
Copyright (C) 1995 - 2006 Cycorp, Inc. All rights reserved.
RTL (Green Threads/ASM Contexts) initialized.
CycL Initialized.
Warning: System parameters file (init/parameters.lisp) not loaded.
Warning: No KB is loaded. System KB initializations will not be run.
Process ID: 23152
System 1.11058.2.20.2.3.
Loading init form "(open-cyc-load-kb \"/usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/\")".
Loading special objects
Loading constant shells
Freeing clause-strucs
[ DONE (0:00) ]
Freeing deductions
[ DONE (0:00) ]
Freeing assertions
[ DONE (0:00) ]
Freeing NARTs
[ DONE (0:00) ]
Freeing constants
[ DONE (0:00) ]
Loading constant shells
[ 30% 40% 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100% DONE (0:07) ]
Determining maximum constant SUID
[ DONE (0:00) ]
Loading NART shells
Loading NART shells
[ DONE (0:00) ]
Determining maximum NART ID
[ DONE (0:01) ]
Loading assertion shells
Loading assertion shells
[ 30% 40% 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100% DONE (0:07) ]
Determining maximum assertion ID
[ DONE (0:01) ]
Loading clause-struc definitions
Loading clause-struc definitions
[ DONE (0:00) ]
Determining maximum clause-struc ID
[ DONE (0:00) ]
Loading deduction definitions
Deduction definitions will be swapped in lazily from /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/deduction.cfasl and /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/deduction-index.cfasl
Initializing deduction handles only
[ DONE (0:01) ]
Warning: HL Store directory could not be set to absolute directory /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/
Warning: Guessing HL Store location of units/0NIL/
Warning: Could not initialize HL store caches from /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/.
Determining maximum deduction ID
[ DONE (0:00) ]
Loading assertion definitions
Assertion definitions will be swapped in lazily from /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/assertion.cfasl and /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/assertion-index.cfasl
Warning: HL Store directory could not be set to absolute directory /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/
Warning: Could not initialize HL store caches from /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/.
Loading bookkeeping assertions
Loading experience
Loading constant indices
Loading constant indices
[ 10% 20% 30% 40% 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100% DONE (0:19) ]
Loading NART indices
Loading NART indices
[ DONE (0:03) ]
Loading Assertion indices
Loading Assertion indices
[ DONE (0:00) ]
Loading rule set
Loading miscellaneous stuff
Loading sbhl graphs
Loading sbhl time state
Loading sbhl cache
Loading cardinality estimates
Loading arg-type cache
Loading TVA cache
Loading lexicon cache
Performing initializations
A SYMBOL at 0xb7dc001c is not a integerp.
[Switching to single-threaded mode ....]
Select a restart:
0: Skip running init form.
1: Recursive read loop.
2: Exit program.
?
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 7:29 PM, <dm...@us...> wrote:
The units from The opencyc version with 5006 might be missing from the gz,
Due to:
Warning: HL Store directory could not be set to absolute directory /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/
Warning: Guessing HL Store location of units/0NIL/
Warning: Could not initialize HL store caches from /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/.
If this is the case, then go one opencyc version forward or backwards.
But most likely you should try the SuSE bin, its seems to be the best for every system, even including the systems that had corrisponding binaries.
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Fodor
To: ope...@li...
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 3:13 PM
Subject: [OpenCyc-devel] OpenCyc on Ubuntu 7.10
To: ope...@li...
Dear Sir,
I am trying to use OpenCyc on Ubuntu 7.10. I understood that there is no compilation for Ubuntu, so I am trying to use the one for RedHat 7.1, but I get an error at initialization (please see below). We can skip this error, but I guess no initialization is done, so we cannot use the knowledge base. Can we still use the inference engine?
I wonder if the sources for OpenCyc are available, so we can compile it under Ubuntu.
Thank you,
Paul Fodor.
Command:
/usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/bin/opencyc-RH-7.1-x86_32.bin -f "(open-cyc-load-kb \"/usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/\")"
Cyc 10 (Linux 32-bit)
Copyright (C) 1995 - 2006 Cycorp, Inc. All rights reserved.
RTL (Green Threads/ASM Contexts) initialized.
CycL Initialized.
Warning: System parameters file (init/parameters.lisp) not loaded.
Warning: No KB is loaded. System KB initializations will not be run.
Process ID: 21049
System 1.11058.2.20.2.3.
Loading init form "(open-cyc-load-kb \"/usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/\")".
Loading special objects
Loading constant shells
Freeing clause-strucs
[ DONE (0:00) ]
Freeing deductions
[ DONE (0:00) ]
Freeing assertions
[ DONE (0:01) ]
Freeing NARTs
[ DONE (0:00) ]
Freeing constants
[ DONE (0:00) ]
Loading constant shells
[ 10% 30% 40% 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100% DONE (0:07) ]
Determining maximum constant SUID
[ DONE (0:00) ]
Loading NART shells
Loading NART shells
[ DONE (0:01) ]
Determining maximum NART ID
[ DONE (0:00) ]
Loading assertion shells
Loading assertion shells
[ 10% 20% 30% 40% 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100% DONE (0:07) ]
Determining maximum assertion ID
[ 10% DONE (0:02) ]
Loading clause-struc definitions
Loading clause-struc definitions
[ DONE (0:00) ]
Determining maximum clause-struc ID
[ DONE (0:00) ]
Loading deduction definitions
Deduction definitions will be swapped in lazily from /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/deduction.cfasl and /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/deduction-index.cfasl
Initializing deduction handles only
[ DONE (0:01) ]
Warning: HL Store directory could not be set to absolute directory /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/
Warning: Guessing HL Store location of units/0NIL/
Warning: Could not initialize HL store caches from /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/.
Determining maximum deduction ID
[ DONE (0:00) ]
Loading assertion definitions
Assertion definitions will be swapped in lazily from /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/assertion.cfasl and /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/assertion-index.cfasl
Warning: HL Store directory could not be set to absolute directory /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/
Warning: Could not initialize HL store caches from /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/.
Loading bookkeeping assertions
Loading experience
Loading constant indices
Loading constant indices
[ 10% 20% 30% 40% 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100% DONE (0:20) ]
Loading NART indices
Loading NART indices
[ DONE (0:03) ]
Loading Assertion indices
Loading Assertion indices
[ DONE (0:00) ]
Loading rule set
Loading miscellaneous stuff
Loading sbhl graphs
Loading sbhl time state
Loading sbhl cache
Loading cardinality estimates
Loading arg-type cache
Loading TVA cache
Loading lexicon cache
Performing initializations
A SYMBOL at 0xb7e3001c is not a integerp.
[Switching to single-threaded mode ....]
Select a restart:
0: Skip running init form.
1: Recursive read loop.
2: Exit program.
? 0
[Resuming multi-threaded mode ....]
Done.
CYC(1): console waiting
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From: <dm...@us...> - 2008-07-30 23:53:15
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There are various releases of RCYC/OpenCYC that have less or more Programmable API but your guaranteed them in RCYC. You probably should apply for a ResearchCyc license: http://researchcyc.cyc.com/ CYC is the best engine in my opinion for large memoization tasks including/needing transitive closure. Cyc got that way by having to deal with a large number of worse case combinatory problems where their programmers had to almost idiomatically code around ;) But the results have been efficient, sane and complete which can provide a good generic propositional resolution prolog-like database. For docs on hooking programmically in/out of unification systems you'll find these docs the most useful in my opinion http://researchcyc.cyc.com/doc rcyc/rcyc especially: http://researchcyc.cyc.com/doc/subldoc/module-index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Fodor To: ope...@li... Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 3:29 PM Subject: [OpenCyc-devel] Beginner question on how to start some basic tests To: ope...@li... Dear Sir, I am beginner to OpenCyc and I am trying to figure out how to use OpenCyc to write some basic benchmarking problems (such as: nqueens programs, the classic puzzle16 problem, etc.). I wonder if anyone can give me some pointers on which parts of the documentation to read to speed up the process and how to benchmark them (measure query time) using the basic CYC console. I am not interested into using the Knowledge Base and Web interface, but in the inference engine in the CYC console: to write CycL programs, measure the time for asserting facts, query (and measure time). My stating problem is the following: I have a list of facts (for instance edge/2) and I want to compute the transitive closure (for some relation reach/2 defined as edge/2 or edge(X,Z),reach(Z,Y) ). The manual is pretty descriptive on how to use the high level Web interface for searching the knowledge base, but I find it pretty difficult to figure out how to compile/load programs and query them in the CYC console. I am still trying to figure out how to use the inference engine for querying rules (not just facts in the KB, but rules over these facts, such as joins "a(X,Y) and b(Y,Z)"). I am currently going over the manual. Please feel free to give me any pointers of how to write basic tests in Cyc (such as: nqueens programs, the classic puzzle16 problem, etc.) and how to compile/load/benchmark them in the CYC console. Thank you, regards, Paul Fodor. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ OpenCyc-devel mailing list Ope...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opencyc-devel |
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From: Paul F. <pf...@cs...> - 2008-07-30 23:36:33
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Thank you for the response. I tried with the SuSE version, but I still get the same error while "performing initialization" (please see the trace below). Command: /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/bin/opencyc-SuSE-9.2-x86_32.bin -f "(open-cyc-load-kb \"/usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/\")" Trace: ... Loading lexicon cache Performing initializations A SYMBOL at 0xb7dc001c is not a integerp. [Switching to single-threaded mode ....] Select a restart: 0: Skip running init form. 1: Recursive read loop. 2: Exit program. ? The CYC KB units seem to be there: ls /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/ arg-type-cache.cfasl deduction-index.cfasl assertion.cfasl indices.cfasl assertion-index.cfasl lexicon-cache.cfasl assertion-indices.cfasl misc.cfasl assertion-shell.cfasl nat-indices.cfasl auxiliary-indices.cfasl nat-shell.cfasl bookkeeping-assertions.cfasl rule-set.cfasl bookkeeping-indices.cfasl rule-utility-experience.cfasl cardinality-estimates.cfasl sbhl-cache.cfasl clause-struc.cfasl sbhl-modules.cfasl constant-shell.cfasl sbhl-time.cfasl constant-shell.text special.cfasl deduction.cfasl tva-cache.cfasl Trace for running with SuSE: /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/bin/opencyc-SuSE-9.2-x86_32.bin -f "(open-cyc-load-kb \"/usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/\")" Cyc 10 (Linux 32-bit) Copyright (C) 1995 - 2006 Cycorp, Inc. All rights reserved. RTL (Green Threads/ASM Contexts) initialized. CycL Initialized. Warning: System parameters file (init/parameters.lisp) not loaded. Warning: No KB is loaded. System KB initializations will not be run. Process ID: 23152 System 1.11058.2.20.2.3. Loading init form "(open-cyc-load-kb \"/usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/\")". Loading special objects Loading constant shells Freeing clause-strucs [ DONE (0:00) ] Freeing deductions [ DONE (0:00) ] Freeing assertions [ DONE (0:00) ] Freeing NARTs [ DONE (0:00) ] Freeing constants [ DONE (0:00) ] Loading constant shells [ 30% 40% 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100% DONE (0:07) ] Determining maximum constant SUID [ DONE (0:00) ] Loading NART shells Loading NART shells [ DONE (0:00) ] Determining maximum NART ID [ DONE (0:01) ] Loading assertion shells Loading assertion shells [ 30% 40% 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100% DONE (0:07) ] Determining maximum assertion ID [ DONE (0:01) ] Loading clause-struc definitions Loading clause-struc definitions [ DONE (0:00) ] Determining maximum clause-struc ID [ DONE (0:00) ] Loading deduction definitions Deduction definitions will be swapped in lazily from /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/deduction.cfasl and /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/deduction-index.cfasl Initializing deduction handles only [ DONE (0:01) ] Warning: HL Store directory could not be set to absolute directory /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/ Warning: Guessing HL Store location of units/0NIL/ Warning: Could not initialize HL store caches from /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/. Determining maximum deduction ID [ DONE (0:00) ] Loading assertion definitions Assertion definitions will be swapped in lazily from /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/assertion.cfasl and /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/assertion-index.cfasl Warning: HL Store directory could not be set to absolute directory /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/ Warning: Could not initialize HL store caches from /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/. Loading bookkeeping assertions Loading experience Loading constant indices Loading constant indices [ 10% 20% 30% 40% 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100% DONE (0:19) ] Loading NART indices Loading NART indices [ DONE (0:03) ] Loading Assertion indices Loading Assertion indices [ DONE (0:00) ] Loading rule set Loading miscellaneous stuff Loading sbhl graphs Loading sbhl time state Loading sbhl cache Loading cardinality estimates Loading arg-type cache Loading TVA cache Loading lexicon cache Performing initializations A SYMBOL at 0xb7dc001c is not a integerp. [Switching to single-threaded mode ....] Select a restart: 0: Skip running init form. 1: Recursive read loop. 2: Exit program. ? On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 7:29 PM, <dm...@us...> wrote: > The units from The opencyc version with 5006 might be missing from the > gz, > > Due to: > > Warning: HL Store directory could not be set to absolute directory > /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/ > Warning: Guessing HL Store location of units/0NIL/ > Warning: Could not initialize HL store caches from > /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/. > > If this is the case, then go one opencyc version forward or backwards. > > > But most likely you should try the SuSE bin, its seems to be the best for > every system, even including the systems that had corrisponding binaries. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Paul Fodor <pf...@cs...> > *To:* ope...@li... > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 30, 2008 3:13 PM > *Subject:* [OpenCyc-devel] OpenCyc on Ubuntu 7.10 > > To: ope...@li... > > Dear Sir, > I am trying to use OpenCyc on Ubuntu 7.10. I understood that there is no > compilation for Ubuntu, so I am trying to use the one for RedHat 7.1, but I > get an error at initialization (please see below). We can skip this error, > but I guess no initialization is done, so we cannot use the knowledge base. > Can we still use the inference engine? > I wonder if the sources for OpenCyc are available, so we can compile it > under Ubuntu. > Thank you, > Paul Fodor. > > Command: > /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/bin/opencyc-RH-7.1-x86_32.bin -f > "(open-cyc-load-kb \"/usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/\")" > > Cyc 10 (Linux 32-bit) > Copyright (C) 1995 - 2006 Cycorp, Inc. All rights reserved. > RTL (Green Threads/ASM Contexts) initialized. > CycL Initialized. > Warning: System parameters file (init/parameters.lisp) not loaded. > Warning: No KB is loaded. System KB initializations will not be run. > Process ID: 21049 > System 1.11058.2.20.2.3. > Loading init form "(open-cyc-load-kb > \"/usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/\")". > > Loading special objects > Loading constant shells > Freeing clause-strucs > [ DONE (0:00) ] > Freeing deductions > [ DONE (0:00) ] > Freeing assertions > [ DONE (0:01) ] > Freeing NARTs > [ DONE (0:00) ] > Freeing constants > [ DONE (0:00) ] > Loading constant shells > [ 10% 30% 40% 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100% DONE (0:07) ] > Determining maximum constant SUID > [ DONE (0:00) ] > > Loading NART shells > Loading NART shells > [ DONE (0:01) ] > Determining maximum NART ID > [ DONE (0:00) ] > > Loading assertion shells > Loading assertion shells > [ 10% 20% 30% 40% 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100% DONE (0:07) ] > Determining maximum assertion ID > [ 10% DONE (0:02) ] > > Loading clause-struc definitions > Loading clause-struc definitions > [ DONE (0:00) ] > Determining maximum clause-struc ID > [ DONE (0:00) ] > > Loading deduction definitions > Deduction definitions will be swapped in lazily from > /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/deduction.cfasl and > /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/deduction-index.cfasl > Initializing deduction handles only > [ DONE (0:01) ] > Warning: HL Store directory could not be set to absolute directory > /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/ > Warning: Guessing HL Store location of units/0NIL/ > Warning: Could not initialize HL store caches from > /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/. > Determining maximum deduction ID > [ DONE (0:00) ] > > Loading assertion definitions > Assertion definitions will be swapped in lazily from > /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/assertion.cfasl and > /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/assertion-index.cfasl > Warning: HL Store directory could not be set to absolute directory > /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/ > Warning: Could not initialize HL store caches from > /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/. > > Loading bookkeeping assertions > Loading experience > Loading constant indices > Loading constant indices > [ 10% 20% 30% 40% 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100% DONE (0:20) ] > > Loading NART indices > Loading NART indices > [ DONE (0:03) ] > > Loading Assertion indices > Loading Assertion indices > [ DONE (0:00) ] > > Loading rule set > Loading miscellaneous stuff > Loading sbhl graphs > Loading sbhl time state > Loading sbhl cache > Loading cardinality estimates > Loading arg-type cache > Loading TVA cache > Loading lexicon cache > Performing initializations > A SYMBOL at 0xb7e3001c is not a integerp. > [Switching to single-threaded mode ....] > > Select a restart: > 0: Skip running init form. > 1: Recursive read loop. > 2: Exit program. > ? 0 > [Resuming multi-threaded mode ....] > Done. > CYC(1): console waiting > > > > ------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's > challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great > prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > OpenCyc-devel mailing list > Ope...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opencyc-devel > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's > challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great > prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > _______________________________________________ > OpenCyc-devel mailing list > Ope...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opencyc-devel > > |
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From: <dm...@us...> - 2008-07-30 23:27:02
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The units from The opencyc version with 5006 might be missing from the gz, Due to: Warning: HL Store directory could not be set to absolute directory /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/ Warning: Guessing HL Store location of units/0NIL/ Warning: Could not initialize HL store caches from /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/. If this is the case, then go one opencyc version forward or backwards. But most likely you should try the SuSE bin, its seems to be the best for every system, even including the systems that had corrisponding binaries. ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Fodor To: ope...@li... Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 3:13 PM Subject: [OpenCyc-devel] OpenCyc on Ubuntu 7.10 To: ope...@li... Dear Sir, I am trying to use OpenCyc on Ubuntu 7.10. I understood that there is no compilation for Ubuntu, so I am trying to use the one for RedHat 7.1, but I get an error at initialization (please see below). We can skip this error, but I guess no initialization is done, so we cannot use the knowledge base. Can we still use the inference engine? I wonder if the sources for OpenCyc are available, so we can compile it under Ubuntu. Thank you, Paul Fodor. Command: /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/bin/opencyc-RH-7.1-x86_32.bin -f "(open-cyc-load-kb \"/usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/\")" Cyc 10 (Linux 32-bit) Copyright (C) 1995 - 2006 Cycorp, Inc. All rights reserved. RTL (Green Threads/ASM Contexts) initialized. CycL Initialized. Warning: System parameters file (init/parameters.lisp) not loaded. Warning: No KB is loaded. System KB initializations will not be run. Process ID: 21049 System 1.11058.2.20.2.3. Loading init form "(open-cyc-load-kb \"/usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/\")". Loading special objects Loading constant shells Freeing clause-strucs [ DONE (0:00) ] Freeing deductions [ DONE (0:00) ] Freeing assertions [ DONE (0:01) ] Freeing NARTs [ DONE (0:00) ] Freeing constants [ DONE (0:00) ] Loading constant shells [ 10% 30% 40% 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100% DONE (0:07) ] Determining maximum constant SUID [ DONE (0:00) ] Loading NART shells Loading NART shells [ DONE (0:01) ] Determining maximum NART ID [ DONE (0:00) ] Loading assertion shells Loading assertion shells [ 10% 20% 30% 40% 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100% DONE (0:07) ] Determining maximum assertion ID [ 10% DONE (0:02) ] Loading clause-struc definitions Loading clause-struc definitions [ DONE (0:00) ] Determining maximum clause-struc ID [ DONE (0:00) ] Loading deduction definitions Deduction definitions will be swapped in lazily from /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/deduction.cfasl and /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/deduction-index.cfasl Initializing deduction handles only [ DONE (0:01) ] Warning: HL Store directory could not be set to absolute directory /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/ Warning: Guessing HL Store location of units/0NIL/ Warning: Could not initialize HL store caches from /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/. Determining maximum deduction ID [ DONE (0:00) ] Loading assertion definitions Assertion definitions will be swapped in lazily from /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/assertion.cfasl and /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/assertion-index.cfasl Warning: HL Store directory could not be set to absolute directory /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/ Warning: Could not initialize HL store caches from /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/. Loading bookkeeping assertions Loading experience Loading constant indices Loading constant indices [ 10% 20% 30% 40% 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100% DONE (0:20) ] Loading NART indices Loading NART indices [ DONE (0:03) ] Loading Assertion indices Loading Assertion indices [ DONE (0:00) ] Loading rule set Loading miscellaneous stuff Loading sbhl graphs Loading sbhl time state Loading sbhl cache Loading cardinality estimates Loading arg-type cache Loading TVA cache Loading lexicon cache Performing initializations A SYMBOL at 0xb7e3001c is not a integerp. [Switching to single-threaded mode ....] Select a restart: 0: Skip running init form. 1: Recursive read loop. 2: Exit program. ? 0 [Resuming multi-threaded mode ....] Done. CYC(1): console waiting ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ OpenCyc-devel mailing list Ope...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opencyc-devel |
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From: Paul F. <pf...@cs...> - 2008-07-30 22:29:04
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To: ope...@li... Dear Sir, I am beginner to OpenCyc and I am trying to figure out how to use OpenCyc to write some basic benchmarking problems (such as: nqueens programs, the classic puzzle16 problem, etc.). I wonder if anyone can give me some pointers on which parts of the documentation to read to speed up the process and how to benchmark them (measure query time) using the basic CYC console. I am not interested into using the Knowledge Base and Web interface, but in the inference engine in the CYC console: to write CycL programs, measure the time for asserting facts, query (and measure time). My stating problem is the following: I have a list of facts (for instance edge/2) and I want to compute the transitive closure (for some relation reach/2 defined as edge/2 or edge(X,Z),reach(Z,Y) ). The manual is pretty descriptive on how to use the high level Web interface for searching the knowledge base, but I find it pretty difficult to figure out how to compile/load programs and query them in the CYC console. I am still trying to figure out how to use the inference engine for querying rules (not just facts in the KB, but rules over these facts, such as joins "a(X,Y) and b(Y,Z)"). I am currently going over the manual. Please feel free to give me any pointers of how to write basic tests in Cyc (such as: nqueens programs, the classic puzzle16 problem, etc.) and how to compile/load/benchmark them in the CYC console. Thank you, regards, Paul Fodor. |
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From: Paul F. <pf...@cs...> - 2008-07-30 22:13:40
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To: ope...@li... Dear Sir, I am trying to use OpenCyc on Ubuntu 7.10. I understood that there is no compilation for Ubuntu, so I am trying to use the one for RedHat 7.1, but I get an error at initialization (please see below). We can skip this error, but I guess no initialization is done, so we cannot use the knowledge base. Can we still use the inference engine? I wonder if the sources for OpenCyc are available, so we can compile it under Ubuntu. Thank you, Paul Fodor. Command: /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/bin/opencyc-RH-7.1-x86_32.bin -f "(open-cyc-load-kb \"/usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/\")" Cyc 10 (Linux 32-bit) Copyright (C) 1995 - 2006 Cycorp, Inc. All rights reserved. RTL (Green Threads/ASM Contexts) initialized. CycL Initialized. Warning: System parameters file (init/parameters.lisp) not loaded. Warning: No KB is loaded. System KB initializations will not be run. Process ID: 21049 System 1.11058.2.20.2.3. Loading init form "(open-cyc-load-kb \"/usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/\")". Loading special objects Loading constant shells Freeing clause-strucs [ DONE (0:00) ] Freeing deductions [ DONE (0:00) ] Freeing assertions [ DONE (0:01) ] Freeing NARTs [ DONE (0:00) ] Freeing constants [ DONE (0:00) ] Loading constant shells [ 10% 30% 40% 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100% DONE (0:07) ] Determining maximum constant SUID [ DONE (0:00) ] Loading NART shells Loading NART shells [ DONE (0:01) ] Determining maximum NART ID [ DONE (0:00) ] Loading assertion shells Loading assertion shells [ 10% 20% 30% 40% 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100% DONE (0:07) ] Determining maximum assertion ID [ 10% DONE (0:02) ] Loading clause-struc definitions Loading clause-struc definitions [ DONE (0:00) ] Determining maximum clause-struc ID [ DONE (0:00) ] Loading deduction definitions Deduction definitions will be swapped in lazily from /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/deduction.cfasl and /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/deduction-index.cfasl Initializing deduction handles only [ DONE (0:01) ] Warning: HL Store directory could not be set to absolute directory /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/ Warning: Guessing HL Store location of units/0NIL/ Warning: Could not initialize HL store caches from /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/. Determining maximum deduction ID [ DONE (0:00) ] Loading assertion definitions Assertion definitions will be swapped in lazily from /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/assertion.cfasl and /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/assertion-index.cfasl Warning: HL Store directory could not be set to absolute directory /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/ Warning: Could not initialize HL store caches from /usr/share/opencyc-1.0/server/cyc/run/units/5006/. Loading bookkeeping assertions Loading experience Loading constant indices Loading constant indices [ 10% 20% 30% 40% 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100% DONE (0:20) ] Loading NART indices Loading NART indices [ DONE (0:03) ] Loading Assertion indices Loading Assertion indices [ DONE (0:00) ] Loading rule set Loading miscellaneous stuff Loading sbhl graphs Loading sbhl time state Loading sbhl cache Loading cardinality estimates Loading arg-type cache Loading TVA cache Loading lexicon cache Performing initializations A SYMBOL at 0xb7e3001c is not a integerp. [Switching to single-threaded mode ....] Select a restart: 0: Skip running init form. 1: Recursive read loop. 2: Exit program. ? 0 [Resuming multi-threaded mode ....] Done. CYC(1): console waiting |
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From: John De O. <jo...@cy...> - 2008-07-11 16:50:46
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America,
Here's what Brad Bouldin found that we have in the web services code, along
with an example.
He says he just tested it to make sure it works. You'll notice a call to...
assertWithTranscriptAndBookkeeping
I didn't see that method in the API docs, but here it is and it works.
- John D.
http://65.99.218242:8080/RESTfulCyc/Assert.jsp<http://65.99.218.242:8080/RESTfulCyc/Assert.jsp>
Enter:
(#$implies (#$isa ?OBJ #$Poodle) (#$isa ?OBJ #$Dog))
#$BaseKB
Result:
<cyclify><success></success></cyclify>
Here is the source code:
protected void doPost(final HttpServletRequest request, final
HttpServletResponse response) throws ServletException,
IOException {
System.out.println("POST STARTED");
final Writer w = response.getWriter();
final String assertStatement = request.getParameter("assert");
final String microtheory = request.getParameter("microtheory");
if (assertStatement == null) {
return;
} else if (assertStatement.equals("")) {
return;
}
if (microtheory == null) {
return;
} else if (microtheory.equals("")) {
return;
}
final String requestor = request.getRemoteAddr();
System.out.println("requestor:" + requestor);
w.write("<cyclify>");
try {
CycAccess cyc = null;
cyc = CycRESTServlet.getCyc();
final CycFort mt = cyc.getConstantByName(microtheory);
if (mt == null) {
throw new IllegalStateException("Microtheory was not found:" + microtheory);
}
cyc.assertWithTranscriptAndBookkeeping(assertStatement, mt);
final String result = "Success";
if (result == null) {
w.write("<error>nothing found</error>");
} else {
w.write("<success>");
w.write("</success>");
}
} catch (final Exception e) {
this.writeException(e, assertStatement + "/" + microtheory, "Assert", w);
}
w.write("</cyclify>");
}
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 4:39 PM, America Holloway <aho...@ic...>
wrote:
> Hi,
> How can I use the Java API to add a rule containing variables to a
> microtheory. There are many methods for asserting a GAF but I can't find a
> method for adding a rule. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> Thanks,
> America.
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From: America H. <aho...@ic...> - 2008-07-10 21:39:40
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Hi, How can I use the Java API to add a rule containing variables to a microtheory. There are many methods for asserting a GAF but I can't find a method for adding a rule. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, America. |
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From: Richard T. <ric...@gm...> - 2008-05-29 18:47:10
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Hi, OpenCyc will not start up for me on Vista. The same error happens for other people. See here: http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1866470&forum_id=85728 .... kb-5006-windows-local.load Loading statics. Mapping in the memory image. Error mapping file segment: code: 0 filename: world/kb-5006-windows-local.load off: ba0000 len: 20000 addr: 2a0000 Implementation error: Could not map the file OS-Err: 487: Attempt to access invalid address. Is anyone from cycorp reading this list and able to comment whether there is any hope for a fix? Thanks a lot, Richard. |
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From: John De O. <jo...@cy...> - 2007-08-26 03:22:35
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I think there is a 64-bit version currently being tested. It uses the new Java-based run-time library rather than the old CRTL. The full Cyc JRTL version requires 8 gig of RAM. I don't know if the OpenCyc version requires quite as much. Contact Larry at Cycorp (la...@cy...) for better information. Thanks, John On 8/25/07, Conrad Taylor <con...@gm...> wrote: > > Hi, I was wondering, will OpenCyc be moving to 64bit in the future and > does the current version run on a 64bit Linux OS? > Thanks in advance, > > -Conrad > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > _______________________________________________ > OpenCyc-devel mailing list > Ope...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opencyc-devel > > |
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From: Conrad T. <con...@gm...> - 2007-08-26 03:15:29
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Hi, I was wondering, will OpenCyc be moving to 64bit in the future and does the current version run on a 64bit Linux OS? Thanks in advance, -Conrad |
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From: John De O. <jo...@cy...> - 2007-08-26 03:09:35
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Thanks, we'll take a look. On 8/22/07, Jeff Thompson <je...@th...> wrote: > > For comparison, you might want to look at this MQL query API on Freebase: > http://www.freebase.com/view/queryeditor/ > > Click on an example and click the "read" button. All the nulls in the > JSON > object are filled in and returned, similar to binding unbound variables. > > Does the Cyc API have a "cursor" interface to handle returning large data > sets? > I mentioned MQL because it has this feature and might be instructive to > look > at it. > > John De Oliveira wrote: > > No there is not a Cyc API for Smalltalk that I know of. In any case, at > > the Cyc Foundation we've been moving the focus to Web services, so that > > you can access Cyc's capabilities more easily regardless of language. > > It's not the right answer in all situations, but it is useful in a lot > > of cases. > > > > Here is a list of some available services. > > > > http://www.cycfoundation.org/blog/?page_id=13 > > > > More will be becoming available. If you have specific requests, let us > > know. > > > > Thanks, > > > > John De Oliveira > > The Cyc Foundation > > > > > > On 8/19/07, *Conrad Taylor* <con...@gm... > > <mailto:con...@gm...> > wrote: > > > > Hi, I was wondering, if there is a Cyc API for Smalltalk or does one > > have to generate their own for interfacing with Cyc? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > -Conrad > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a > browser. > > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > > OpenCyc-devel mailing list > > Ope...@li... > > <mailto:Ope...@li...> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opencyc-devel > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > OpenCyc-devel mailing list > > Ope...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opencyc-devel > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > _______________________________________________ > OpenCyc-devel mailing list > Ope...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opencyc-devel > |
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From: Jeff T. <je...@th...> - 2007-08-22 08:58:42
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For comparison, you might want to look at this MQL query API on Freebase: http://www.freebase.com/view/queryeditor/ Click on an example and click the "read" button. All the nulls in the JSON object are filled in and returned, similar to binding unbound variables. Does the Cyc API have a "cursor" interface to handle returning large data sets? I mentioned MQL because it has this feature and might be instructive to look at it. John De Oliveira wrote: > No there is not a Cyc API for Smalltalk that I know of. In any case, at > the Cyc Foundation we've been moving the focus to Web services, so that > you can access Cyc's capabilities more easily regardless of language. > It's not the right answer in all situations, but it is useful in a lot > of cases. > > Here is a list of some available services. > > http://www.cycfoundation.org/blog/?page_id=13 > > More will be becoming available. If you have specific requests, let us > know. > > Thanks, > > John De Oliveira > The Cyc Foundation > > > On 8/19/07, *Conrad Taylor* <con...@gm... > <mailto:con...@gm...> > wrote: > > Hi, I was wondering, if there is a Cyc API for Smalltalk or does one > have to generate their own for interfacing with Cyc? > > Thanks in advance, > > -Conrad > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > _______________________________________________ > OpenCyc-devel mailing list > Ope...@li... > <mailto:Ope...@li...> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opencyc-devel > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > OpenCyc-devel mailing list > Ope...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opencyc-devel |
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From: John De O. <joh...@gm...> - 2007-08-22 02:50:01
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It depends on if you want to call services hosted by us (non-profit, not supported), Cycorp (commercial, supported) or yourself (free, you install OpenCyc server). In the last case, you'd install once and access from anywhere on the Web. John D. On 8/20/07, Conrad Taylor <con...@gm...> wrote: > > Hi, is it true that the web services doesn't require the installation of > OpenCyc on Windows/Linux? > -Conrad > > On 8/19/07, Conrad Taylor <con...@gm...> wrote: > > > > Hi, I was wondering, if there is a Cyc API for Smalltalk or does one > > have to generate their own for interfacing with Cyc? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > -Conrad > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > _______________________________________________ > OpenCyc-devel mailing list > Ope...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opencyc-devel > > |
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From: Conrad T. <con...@gm...> - 2007-08-20 17:47:45
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Hi, is it true that the web services doesn't require the installation of OpenCyc on Windows/Linux? -Conrad On 8/19/07, Conrad Taylor <con...@gm...> wrote: > > Hi, I was wondering, if there is a Cyc API for Smalltalk or does one have > to generate their own for interfacing with Cyc? > > Thanks in advance, > > -Conrad > > > > > > > > > |
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From: Conrad T. <con...@gm...> - 2007-08-20 05:38:31
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Hi John, thanks for getting back to me. I guess that I'll look at into the web services and I'll look into creating a Smalltalk wrapper as well. Thanks again, -Conrad On 8/19/07, John De Oliveira <jo...@cy...> wrote: > > No there is not a Cyc API for Smalltalk that I know of. In any case, at > the Cyc Foundation we've been moving the focus to Web services, so that you > can access Cyc's capabilities more easily regardless of language. It's not > the right answer in all situations, but it is useful in a lot of cases. > > Here is a list of some available services. > > http://www.cycfoundation.org/blog/?page_id=13 > > More will be becoming available. If you have specific requests, let us > know. > > Thanks, > > John De Oliveira > The Cyc Foundation > > > On 8/19/07, Conrad Taylor <con...@gm... > wrote: > > > Hi, I was wondering, if there is a Cyc API for Smalltalk or does one > > have to generate their own for interfacing with Cyc? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > -Conrad > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > > OpenCyc-devel mailing list > > Ope...@li...urceforge <Ope...@li...> > > .net <Ope...@li...> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net<https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opencyc-devel> > > /lists/listinfo/opencyc-devel<https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opencyc-devel> > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > _______________________________________________ > OpenCyc-devel mailing list > Ope...@li...urceforg <Ope...@li...>e.net<Ope...@li...> > https://lists.sourceforge.net<https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opencyc-devel> > /lists/listinfo/opencyc-devel<https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opencyc-devel> > > |
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From: John De O. <jo...@cy...> - 2007-08-20 03:09:35
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No there is not a Cyc API for Smalltalk that I know of. In any case, at the Cyc Foundation we've been moving the focus to Web services, so that you can access Cyc's capabilities more easily regardless of language. It's not the right answer in all situations, but it is useful in a lot of cases. Here is a list of some available services. http://www.cycfoundation.org/blog/?page_id=13 More will be becoming available. If you have specific requests, let us know. Thanks, John De Oliveira The Cyc Foundation On 8/19/07, Conrad Taylor <con...@gm...> wrote: > > Hi, I was wondering, if there is a Cyc API for Smalltalk or does one have > to generate their own for interfacing with Cyc? > Thanks in advance, > > -Conrad > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > _______________________________________________ > OpenCyc-devel mailing list > Ope...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opencyc-devel > > |
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From: Conrad T. <con...@gm...> - 2007-08-20 02:22:00
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Hi, I was wondering, if there is a Cyc API for Smalltalk or does one have to generate their own for interfacing with Cyc? Thanks in advance, -Conrad |
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