notion-general — General discussion about the notion window manager

Re: [Notion-general] Welcoming Philipp Hartwig to the Notion team

[Philipp H. <ph...@ph...>]

Hi Arnout, hi all,

> I'm pleased to announce we've added Philipp Hartwig (aopicier) to the
> Notion team. Philipp has been a regular contributor for some time now
> and I'm happy to see him officially joining the team.

thank you very much for the kind words and for putting this kind of trust in
me. Needless to say that I have so far very much enjoyed contributing to 
Notion and working with you guys. Now let's continue to make Notion even 
better than it already is.

Cheers,
Philipp

[Notion-general] Welcoming Philipp Hartwig to the Notion team

[Arnout E. <no...@bz...>]

Hello Notioners,

I'm pleased to announce we've added Philipp Hartwig (aopicier) to the Notion 
team. Philipp has been a regular contributor for some time now and I'm happy
to see him officially joining the team.

In the near future we'd like to do another official release (among other 
things, we have some nice multihead improvements lined up), which we hope to 
do more regularly in the future.

As we've converted the git repository to use submodules, it is now easier to 
build notion from git, so we won't be releasing development snapshots anymore,
just more regular proper releases.


Kind regards,

Arnout

Re: [Notion-general] blinkin' n' thinkin'

[Pentahedral G. <pen...@gm...>]

whoops, cfg_defaults - sorry, disregard.

cheers
Wojtke

On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 5:57 PM, Pentahedral Graph
<pen...@gm...> wrote:
>> I quickly enabled a statusbar here and it doesn't seem to flicker, so I'm not
>> sure how to help.. I know there's another guy on IRC who also sees flickering,
>> so it seems to be a real issue.
>>
>>
> While we're at it - how do I DISABLE it? (I mean the statusbar).



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convex pentahedra having unit edge lengths.

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Resource. http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Pentahedron.html)

Re: [Notion-general] blinkin' n' thinkin'

[Pentahedral G. <pen...@gm...>]

> I quickly enabled a statusbar here and it doesn't seem to flicker, so I'm not
> sure how to help.. I know there's another guy on IRC who also sees flickering,
> so it seems to be a real issue.
>
>
While we're at it - how do I DISABLE it? (I mean the statusbar).

Re: [Notion-general] Using Notion on Arch and CR-48 Chromebook

[Pentahedral G. <pen...@gm...>]

Hi Brandon,
I think use xev to check the keycode of your Search key, and then use
xmodmap with the suitable .Xmodmap file to remap. Did you try that?
Assuming that Search is indeed unmapped, something like

keycode XXX = F12

should do the trick?

regards
Wojtek

On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Brandon Giesing <br...@gi...>wrote:

> I am loving how simple this is! I am using it on Arch Linux on a CR-48
> Chromebook.
>
> However, there is a problem with that...
>
> The Chromebook has no F11 or F12 keys which the F12 key is used for the
> main menu to shut down and stuff. Also the Search key is useless... It
> doesn't even work as a caps lock.
>
> Maybe somebody can help me map the search key to an F12 key?
>
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Pentahedron - A polyhedron having five faces. Because there are two
pentahedral graphs, there are two convex pentahedra, namely the square
pyramid and the triangular prism. The triangular prism is the unique convex
pentahedra having unit edge lengths.

(Eric W. Weisstein. "Pentahedron." From MathWorld--A Wolfram Web Resource.
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Pentahedron.html)

[Notion-general] Using Notion on Arch and CR-48 Chromebook

[Brandon G. <br...@gi...>]

I am loving how simple this is! I am using it on Arch Linux on a CR-48 Chromebook.
However, there is a problem with that...
The Chromebook has no F11 or F12 keys which the F12 key is used for the main menu to shut down and stuff. Also the Search key is useless... It doesn't even work as a caps lock.
Maybe somebody can help me map the search key to an F12 key? 		 	   		  

Re: [Notion-general] Floating popups

[Steven H. <sd...@gm...>]

Hello Arnout,

Just an update: the results below were for Synapse only.

When I tried those settings with Launchy, the app only appeared in the 
top left corner of screen 1 (would always open there regardless of what 
screen was active), rendering that app of limited use.

While I was at it, I decided to install gnome-do, which I haven't used 
in awhile. It positions itself out of the box without need for any 
defwinprop, in the center of the active screen. Though the downside is 
its dependency on compositing - without running something like compton, 
the app dialogue opens as a full window in the active frame 
(Compositing, I find, needs to be disabled while viewing video).

So, it's back to Synapse without any defwinprop - as centering in the 
active frame is more consistent behavior for me (opening apps in 
inordinately small frames is usually unintended). As an aside, Synapse 
also requires compositing, without which, it loses its graphical 
adornments (but is still quite usable).

Steven

--

Hello Arnout,

"float=true, userpos=true" worked for screen 1. On my multihead setup, on
screen 2, the dialogue appeared in the top left corner (it appeared
independently in the corner regardless the frame sizes defined for the
screen). "transient_mode" regardless of any setting did not appear to have
any affect.

Steven

On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Arnout Engelen <no...@bz...> wrote:

> On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 12:33:19PM -0400, Steven Hum wrote:
> > Essentially, I like to use popup launchers like synapse and launchy.
>
> Sounds like a good idea to me.
>
> > On a stacking wm and other tiling wm's, the popup dialogue displays in
> the
> > center of the active display.
>
> Sounds like what you want.
>
> > In notion, the dialogue shows by default in the center of the active
> frame.
>
> In that case they're not treated as an independent floating/transient
> window,
> but as a 'normal' window, and as such fitted into a frame.
>
> > Not functionally a big deal most of the time, provided the frame is of
> > sufficient width. When the window frame is not, the dialogue becomes
> > unusable as the input field is truncated (out of view).
> >
> > Is there a way to have the application show as expected in the middle of
> > the display?
>
> The 'float' and 'transient_mode' winprops are probably your best bets.
> Additionally the 'userpos' winprop may be of use. Looks like I tried
> Synapse
> myself before, and I arrived at:
>
> defwinprop{
>         class = "Synapse",
>         float = true,
>         transient_mode = "off",
>         userpos = true,
> }
>
> I do feel we should support application like this 'out of the box' better.
> If
> you can test the above configuration, that'd be great, and I'd be willing
> to
> add it to the default config.
>
> Also, if we can find some other way to recognize windows that need to
> float,
> that might be even better.
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Arnout
>
-- 
"Truth or die."

Steven Hum  
5 - 28 Gilmour St  
Ottawa, ON K2P 0N3  
email sd...@gm...  
tel 613.237.9058  

Re: [Notion-general] Floating popups

[Steven H. <sd...@gm...>]

Hello Arnout,

"float=true, userpos=true" worked for screen 1. On my multihead setup, on
screen 2, the dialogue appeared in the top left corner (it appeared
independently in the corner regardless the frame sizes defined for the
screen). "transient_mode" regardless of any setting did not appear to have
any affect.

Steven

On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Arnout Engelen <no...@bz...> wrote:

> On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 12:33:19PM -0400, Steven Hum wrote:
> > Essentially, I like to use popup launchers like synapse and launchy.
>
> Sounds like a good idea to me.
>
> > On a stacking wm and other tiling wm's, the popup dialogue displays in
> the
> > center of the active display.
>
> Sounds like what you want.
>
> > In notion, the dialogue shows by default in the center of the active
> frame.
>
> In that case they're not treated as an independent floating/transient
> window,
> but as a 'normal' window, and as such fitted into a frame.
>
> > Not functionally a big deal most of the time, provided the frame is of
> > sufficient width. When the window frame is not, the dialogue becomes
> > unusable as the input field is truncated (out of view).
> >
> > Is there a way to have the application show as expected in the middle of
> > the display?
>
> The 'float' and 'transient_mode' winprops are probably your best bets.
> Additionally the 'userpos' winprop may be of use. Looks like I tried
> Synapse
> myself before, and I arrived at:
>
> defwinprop{
>         class = "Synapse",
>         float = true,
>         transient_mode = "off",
>         userpos = true,
> }
>
> I do feel we should support application like this 'out of the box' better.
> If
> you can test the above configuration, that'd be great, and I'd be willing
> to
> add it to the default config.
>
> Also, if we can find some other way to recognize windows that need to
> float,
> that might be even better.
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Arnout
>



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Steven Hum
5 - 28 Gilmour St
Ottawa, ON K2P 0N3
email sd...@gm...
tel 613.237.9058 cell 613.796.2484

Re: [Notion-general] Another battery level statusd script

[Philipp H. <ph...@ph...>]

Hi,

sorry for not reacting to your message any earlier. 

Unfortunately it seems to be a bit more difficult to write a good battery 
script as there are several different conventions for the 
/sys/class/power_supply/BAT* directories. For example on my system there is no 
energy_now or energy_full file, which are the ones your script is trying to 
read (and the same comment also applies to your patch[1] to 
statusd_linuxbatt). Instead I have charge_now and charge_full files.  Some 
discussion[2] I've found via Google seems to indicate that there are even more 
possibilities and that they all use different units. The acpi program is able 
to handle these cases and so its source[3] is a good way to learn how to do 
this correctly. I don't know how other window managers handle this, but that 
might also be worth a look.

In the end, I don't feel like it is worth reimplementing all of this in Lua, 
but of course that's just my personal opinion. I've long ditched all the 
battery status indicators and now simply use the statusd_exec script to 
periodically execute acpi -b. In detail, my configuration looks as follows. In 
my template, I have an entry "%exec_acpi". In the 
"mod_statusbar.launch_statusd" table I then have the following entry.

exec = {
    acpi = {
        program = 'acpi -b | cut -d\' \' -f3- | tr "\n" " "',
        hint_regexp = {
            critical = '^Discharging, 1?[0-9]%%',
        },
        retry_delay = 5 * 1000,
    },
},

It gives me the current battery level in percent and the remaining time or the 
time until fully charged, depending on whether I'm on AC or not. And if the 
level is below 20 %, the output is colored in red.

I don't know if this would suit your needs. If you want greater flexibility, 
maybe adapting your script to retrieve the values from the acpi program 
instead of calculating them by hand might be a good solution? Including the 
remaining time would then certainly also be very interesting. What do you 
think?

Cheers,
Philipp

[1] http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3551479&group_id=314802&atid=1324530
[2] https://github.com/denilsonsa/batterymon-clone/pull/3
[3] http://paste.debian.net/189979

Re: [Notion-general] Floating popups

[Arnout E. <no...@bz...>]

On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 12:33:19PM -0400, Steven Hum wrote:
> Essentially, I like to use popup launchers like synapse and launchy. 

Sounds like a good idea to me.

> On a stacking wm and other tiling wm's, the popup dialogue displays in the 
> center of the active display. 

Sounds like what you want.

> In notion, the dialogue shows by default in the center of the active frame. 

In that case they're not treated as an independent floating/transient window,
but as a 'normal' window, and as such fitted into a frame.

> Not functionally a big deal most of the time, provided the frame is of 
> sufficient width. When the window frame is not, the dialogue becomes 
> unusable as the input field is truncated (out of view).
> 
> Is there a way to have the application show as expected in the middle of 
> the display? 

The 'float' and 'transient_mode' winprops are probably your best bets. 
Additionally the 'userpos' winprop may be of use. Looks like I tried Synapse 
myself before, and I arrived at:

defwinprop{
        class = "Synapse",
        float = true,
        transient_mode = "off",
        userpos = true,
}

I do feel we should support application like this 'out of the box' better. If 
you can test the above configuration, that'd be great, and I'd be willing to 
add it to the default config.

Also, if we can find some other way to recognize windows that need to float, 
that might be even better. 


Kind regards,

Arnout

[Notion-general] Floating popups

[Steven H. <sd...@gm...>]

Searching through the archives, I believe this topic has surfaced in 
various forms (but I couldn't discern a definitive answer or solution).

Essentially, I like to use popup launchers like synapse and launchy. On 
a stacking wm and other tiling wm's, the popup dialogue displays in the 
center of the active display. In notion, the dialogue shows by default 
in the center of the active frame. Not functionally a big deal most of 
the time, provided the frame is of sufficient width. When the window 
frame is not, the dialogue becomes unusable as the input field is 
truncated (out of view).

Is there a way to have the application show as expected in the middle of 
the display? I've been trying the various winprop attributes without any 
success. Fullscreen stretches the dialogue across the top of the display 
which, while usable, is visually unwieldy. Everything else I have tried 
still is restricted to the current frame.

Not a show stopper for the best wm there is but if someone knows the 
answer, would be appreciated. Thanks!
-- 
"Truth or die."

Steven Hum  
5 - 28 Gilmour St  
Ottawa, ON K2P 0N3  
email sd...@gm...  
tel 613.237.9058  

Re: [Notion-general] Time for a new release?

[Thomas K. <tk...@gi...>]

On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 10:08:52PM +0200, Arnout Engelen wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 03:32:42PM +0200, Thomas Klausner wrote:
> > I just browsed the git history and noted a lot of changes since April.
> > Is it perhaps time for a new (snapshot) release?
> 
> I think perhaps we should stop releasing snapshots as building from git is now
> fairly easy: 
> 
>   https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/notion/index.php?title=Development#Building_from_source
> 
> We should, however, make 'proper' releases much more often - e.g. at least 
> every 2 months.

I was asking with my packager hat on, so I'd actually prefer proper
releases. :)
 Thomas

Re: [Notion-general] Time for a new release?

[Arnout E. <no...@bz...>]

On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 03:32:42PM +0200, Thomas Klausner wrote:
> I just browsed the git history and noted a lot of changes since April.
> Is it perhaps time for a new (snapshot) release?

I think perhaps we should stop releasing snapshots as building from git is now
fairly easy: 

  https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/notion/index.php?title=Development#Building_from_source

We should, however, make 'proper' releases much more often - e.g. at least 
every 2 months.

For the next release I'd like to:
* integrate some Debian packaging work by Philipp Hartwig
* look at patches submitted at
  https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?atid=1324530&group_id=314802&func=browse
* Try to reproduce and fix bug 3564112 
* See if we can do anything about bug 3562099 (not really a bug but confusing 
  behavior with respect to fullscreening 

Help warmly appreciated! 

If you can test latest git I'd be much obliged. Git should be fairly stable, 
known-breaking commits go into branches.

If you have any bugs/regressions/wishes for the release let us know!


Kind regards,

Arnout

[Notion-general] Time for a new release?

[Thomas K. <tk...@gi...>]

Hi!

I just browsed the git history and noted a lot of changes since April.
Is it perhaps time for a new (snapshot) release?
 Thomas

Re: [Notion-general] blinkin' n' thinkin'

[Wojtek A. <pen...@gm...>]

Ok solved, thanks Johannes, Arnout.
I followed Johannes' idea with drivers. Actually, I have ATI RAdeon,
not nvidia. But the idea of having 1000 packages put up automatically
by dist-upgrades caused me to check. Jeez, I had like drivers for
every card there was on the market since 1970s. So what I did was
remove xserver-xorg-video-* and KEEP xserver-xorg-video-radon. (It
removes the metapackage xorg-vide-ati, but heck.). No filickering
anymore.

So, to summarize, it is a driver issue, Arnout you can sleep soundly:)
Unfortunately, I do not know the REAL cause. namely, some conflict
must have occured that forbade my card to do some specific function
needed for smooth refresh. Hard to trace though. I don't even know
which combination caused the conflict, I removed like 30 packages
altogether, hard to say which one was problematic.

regards
wojtek


On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 7:11 PM, Johannes Segitz
<joh...@gm...> wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Wojtek Aniszewski
> <pen...@gm...> wrote:
>> I have a problem with statusbar which notoriously "blinks" everytime
>> (it seems) it refreshes. At least, it occurs when I use more data
>> displayed on the bar.
>
> Do you use the nouveau driver for a nvidia card by any chance? I got
> the same problems
> because my xorg installation switched to nouveau during the
> dist-upgrade. I "resolved" it
> by installing the nvidia drivers.
>
> Johannes
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pyramid and the triangular prism. The triangular prism is the unique
convex pentahedra having unit edge lengths.

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Re: [Notion-general] blinkin' n' thinkin'

[Johannes S. <joh...@gm...>]

On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Wojtek Aniszewski
<pen...@gm...> wrote:
> I have a problem with statusbar which notoriously "blinks" everytime
> (it seems) it refreshes. At least, it occurs when I use more data
> displayed on the bar.

Do you use the nouveau driver for a nvidia card by any chance? I got
the same problems
because my xorg installation switched to nouveau during the
dist-upgrade. I "resolved" it
by installing the nvidia drivers.

Johannes

Re: [Notion-general] blinkin' n' thinkin'

[Arnout E. <no...@bz...>]

On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 04:08:06PM +0200, Wojtek Aniszewski wrote:
> Ok I took me some time (and whining to the administrator for
> liblua5.1-dev on that machine)  to check on the other system, but 5
> minutes ago I finally tested notion 3-2012042300 on the mentioned
> ubuntu machine. 

Thanks for taking the time to track this down!

> And the results: no blinking at all. I'm confused:)
> 
> I recompiled notion on my laptop and it blinks on. (using the same
> sources). 

Hmm, I guess that means it's probably not a regression. Not sure if that's 
good or not ;).

I quickly enabled a statusbar here and it doesn't seem to flicker, so I'm not
sure how to help.. I know there's another guy on IRC who also sees flickering,
so it seems to be a real issue. 


Kind regards,

Arnout

Re: [Notion-general] blinkin' n' thinkin'

[Wojtek A. <pen...@gm...>]

On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 10:39 PM, Arnout Engelen <no...@bz...> wrote:

> Is it possible to install notion on that other system too? Does it blink there
> too? If so, and you have some time on your hands, it'd be cool if you could
> find out since which commit this blinking was introduced ('git bisect' might
> help there)
>
Ok I took me some time (and whining to the administrator for
liblua5.1-dev on that machine)  to check on the other system, but 5
minutes ago I finally tested notion 3-2012042300 on the mentioned
ubuntu machine. And the results: no blinking at all. I'm confused:)

I recompiled notion on my laptop and it blinks on. (using the same
sources). I think this is the same "kind of blinking/flickering" which
you get when you disable double buffering in conky. At least it loks
similar. But I am not knowledgeable enough to draw conclusion from
this.
regards
wojtek





-- 
Pentahedron - A polyhedron having five faces. Because there are two
pentahedral graphs, there are two convex pentahedra, namely the square
pyramid and the triangular prism. The triangular prism is the unique
convex pentahedra having unit edge lengths.

(Eric W. Weisstein. "Pentahedron." From MathWorld--A Wolfram Web
Resource. http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Pentahedron.html)

Re: [Notion-general] blinkin' n' thinkin'

[Arnout E. <no...@bz...>]

On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 10:15:01PM +0200, Wojtek Aniszewski wrote:
> I have luck also when using two or three other fields, but for full bar, it 
> blinks like crazy approximately every 2 seconds.
> 
> I could accept the fact that the statusbar blinks, but I have at my
> disposal another computer system (desktop with ubuntu 10.04 and ion3)
> on which, for the same template, there is no "blinking" effect. So
> why?

Is it possible to install notion on that other system too? Does it blink there
too? If so, and you have some time on your hands, it'd be cool if you could 
find out since which commit this blinking was introduced ('git bisect' might
help there)

> Obviously, I'm used to notion/ion so much, that I'm not considering
> becoming frustrated:), 

:)

> but today, somehow, the blinking started to
> iritate me. Hence, I went to construct quickly a bash script which
> uses dzen2 to display an alternative statusbar. It works OK, but
> unfortunately I don't know how to use in notion in a satisfying way
> (e.g. I don't want windows to go under it -especially the F3/alt-F3
> queries).

This should work when you load the 'mod_dock' notion module, set the dock
mode to 'embedded' in the configuration, and start dzen2 with the '-dock'
parameter. Note that the '-dock' parameter is not available in all versions
of dzen2 (particularly, not yet in 0.8.5, which is in Debian).

> And so, I would like to know what do you think about it.

I personally think that in theory it's a great idea to use a seperate program 
designed specifically to be a great statusbar, instead of using a statusbar 
built into the windowmanager. 

Currently 2 practical problems with this approach is that many stand-alone 
statusbars for some reason have poor systray support, and that we don't yet
expose much information about which workspaces exist and are currently 
selected in a standardized way, so this information likely won't be available 
to a standalone statusbar application.

For the latter, there's some EWMH properties we could use, but they don't 
directly map to the Notion model very well, as described in
https://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=20120510183944.GO2822%40bzzt.net&forum_name=notion-devel


Kind regards,

Arnout

[Notion-general] blinkin' n' thinkin'

[Wojtek A. <pen...@gm...>]

Hi all!
I have a problem with statusbar which notoriously "blinks" everytime
(it seems) it refreshes. At least, it occurs when I use more data
displayed on the bar. My current template in the cfg_statusbar.lua
is/was:

template=" %date | mem: %mem_hfree/%mem_hused |
battery:%linuxbatt_state%linuxbatt %watime | up %uptime | %mocp_title
[%mocp_currenttime] | user: %cpustat_user | wifi:
%netmon_kbsin/%netmon_kbsout  %filler%systray",

in theory, any of these fields can have a different refresh time,
nevertheless when - for example - I only use template=" %date", the
statusbar doesn't bink at all even when the hour changes. I have luck
also when using two or three other fields, but for full bar, it blinks
like crazy approximately every 2 seconds.

I could accept the fact that the statusbar blinks, but I have at my
disposal another computer system (desktop with ubuntu 10.04 and ion3)
on which, for the same template, there is no "blinking" effect. So
why?

Obviously, I'm used to notion/ion so much, that I'm not considering
becoming frustrated:), but today, somehow, the blinking started to
iritate me. Hence, I went to construct quickly a bash script which
uses dzen2 to display an alternative statusbar. It works OK, but
unfortunately I don't know how to use in notion in a satisfying way
(e.g. I don't want windows to go under it -especially the F3/alt-F3
queries).  And so, I would like to know what do you think about it.

regards
wojtek
-- 
Pentahedron - A polyhedron having five faces. Because there are two
pentahedral graphs, there are two convex pentahedra, namely the square
pyramid and the triangular prism. The triangular prism is the unique
convex pentahedra having unit edge lengths.

(Eric W. Weisstein. "Pentahedron." From MathWorld--A Wolfram Web
Resource. http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Pentahedron.html)

Re: [Notion-general] Colemak caps_lock key (as backspace) not functioning in notion prompts

[Tor H. B. <tor...@gm...>]

Try binding the orginal backspace to something else. Think there's a bug
that makes it impossible for two keys with the same keysym to function at
the same time in notion.

Try "xmodmap -e 'keycode 22 = '" to disable the orginal key. That works for
me at least. Though obviously not optimal.

On Sun, 27 May 2012 12:53:35 +0200, Steven Hum <sd...@gm...> wrote:

> The Colemak keyboard layout remaps the caps_lock to behave as a
> backspace (delete) key. However, the caps_lock key does not appear to
> function for notion prompts. It does behave as it should for running
> applications.
>
> Any ideas? I haven't found a kpress definition disabling the key..
> unless it needs to be explicitly enabled (in which case, how is this
> done?)
>
> Thanks in advance,
> S
> --
>


-- 
Tor Hedin Brønner

Re: [Notion-general] Colemak caps_lock key (as backspace) not functioning in notion prompts

[Philipp H. <ph...@ph...>]

Hi,

On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 06:53:35AM -0400, Steven Hum wrote:
> The Colemak keyboard layout remaps the caps_lock to behave as a backspace
> (delete) key. However, the caps_lock key does not appear to function
> for notion prompts. It does behave as it should for running applications.
>
> Any ideas? I haven't found a kpress definition disabling the key..
> unless it needs to be explicitly enabled (in which case, how is this done?)

as mentioned in the bug tracker[1], the likely explanation is that the Colemak 
layout has two keys which are mapped to BackSpace, namely the usual backspace 
key and the caps lock key. Unfortunately we use XKeysymToKeycode to resolve 
the keysym used in a binding to a keycode, and the behavior of this function 
is not well-defined when there are multiple keycodes mapping to the same 
keysym.

I'm afraid that fixing this might require some fundamental changes to Notion, 
and it might not be worth the hassle. As a work-around, you could explicitly 
unmap the usual backspace key (using the keyword NoSymbol), so that only caps 
lock is mapped to BackSpace. I don't know whether this is acceptable for you 
though.

Regards,
Philipp

[1] http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3530060&group_id=314802&atid=1324528

Re: [Notion-general] Changing titlebar color on the fly

[Eugen Z. <e.z...@gm...>]

Alexey Khmara <ale...@gm...> (2012-08-07 16:18):
> Hello!
> 
> I'm trying to figure out  how to change color cheme on the fly, but
> without any results,
> so I'm asking for help. What I want to do is implement titlebar color
> change on language toggle (I'm using mod_xkb).
> 
> Can someone give me some directions how to do this?

Basically the same code as in look_*.lua configs should do it, like
this:

de.defstyle("tab", {
  de.substyle("active-selected", {
    background-colour="#000000",
  })
})
gr:refresh()

This code works for me being executed via Lua code query box (Mod+F3).
Perhaps it should work in scripts as well.

However, it doesn't work if "tab-frame" style is set (I'm not sure if
this is a bug or proper work of subtle style definitions "scoring"). In
my case commenting out the following lines from lookcommon_clean.lua
helped:

de.defstyle("tab-frame", {
    spacing = 1,
})

Hope it helps.

[Notion-general] Changing titlebar color on the fly

[Alexey K. <ale...@gm...>]

Hello!

I'm trying to figure out  how to change color cheme on the fly, but without
any results,
so I'm asking for help. What I want to do is implement titlebar color
change on language toggle (I'm using mod_xkb).

Can someone give me some directions how to do this?

-- 
Best reards,
Alex Khmara

[Notion-general] Another battery level statusd script

[Eugen Z. <e.z...@gm...>]

Hello!

Recently I tried to find a script to display battery status in notion
statusbar and was frustrated because scripts in notion-contrib are too
outdated, unsupported and not working.

I considered this as challenge and tried to write my own script, which
should be (a) satisfactory for me (b) flexible enough to satisfy folks
who are using (probably ad-hoc patched) old scripts.

"Satisfactory for me" part mostly consists of indicator ability to be
both unnoticeable (hidden when battery is full) and attention-drawing
(blinking in addition to "critical" hint when battery level is too low).

"Satisfactoty for others" part supposes high flexibility of settings.
For example, the following config seems to make the script behave
*exactly* like default configured linuxbatt:

settings = {
  info_data = {'percentage'},
  info_format = "%.f",
  content_format = "%s",
  update_interval = 15 * 1000,
  bat_no = 0,
  thresholds = {
    full        = {0, 10, 30, 100},
    charging    = {0, 10, 30, 100},
    discharging = {0, 10, 30, 100},
  },
  blink_on_discharge = false,
}

If not all aspects are covered by settings at the moment, I would be
interested in gathering feature requests and upgrading the script.

Finaly, here is it:

https://github.com/ezag/notion-scripts/blob/master/statusd_battery.lua

It's my first experience with Lua, so I am very interested in receiving
reviews and getting feedback.

Thanks for your attention!