notion-general — General discussion about the notion window manager

[Notion-general] Fwd: Notion tab question

[Maxim N. <si...@gm...>]

Hi!

I'd like to see image or some gradient in background of my tabs. Can I skin
tabs with my own look_myskin.lua? Only background_color is available as far
as I see.

Possibly I could modify some lua code. Could you give me any hint where to
look for this feature or where I could implement it?

With regard,
Maxim Nikolaev.

Re: [Notion-general] New windows in background by default?

[Thomas K. <tk...@gi...>]

On Sun, Jul 01, 2012 at 08:36:47PM +0200, Arnout Engelen wrote:
> The winprop above is pretty much a 'catch-all' one. cfg_kludges.lua has a 
> winprop that puts all 'is_dockapp' windows into the statusbar. This is probably
> overwritten by the one above.

Ah, ok.

> The solution would be to make sure the winprop above is the first winprop, so
> any later winprops will overwrite it. In practice this probably means you want 
> to put this winprop before 'dopath("cfg_defaults")' in your cfg_notion.lua.

I've done this and the dockapps behave properly again.

Thank you very much!
 Thomas

Re: [Notion-general] New windows in background by default?

[Arnout E. <no...@bz...>]

On Sun, Jul 01, 2012 at 07:54:57PM +0200, Thomas Klausner wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 01, 2012 at 02:12:30PM +0200, Arnout Engelen wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 11:04:44AM +0200, Arnout Engelen wrote:
> > > I haven't tried, but adding a winprop that sets 'switchto' to false (and
> > > perhaps 'ignore_net_active_window' to true) might do the trick.
> > 
> > Jep that seems to do what you want:
> > 
> > defwinprop {
> >    switchto = false,
> > }
> > 
> > It does mark the windows as 'requesting attention', which seems reasonable.
> 
> Looks good! One problem though -- my Windowmaker Dockapps aren't in
> the dock since I've restarted with this change. If I revert the
> change, they are back at the bottom, where they belong.
> 
> Why is this related?

Probably the dockapps also use winprops. From the docs at
http://notion.sourceforge.net/notionconf/node4.html#SECTION00452000000000000000

Notion first filters the winprops based on the primary identification fields. Of those winprops that match the primary identification fields, the most recently defined winprop that also matches the secondary filters is used

The winprop above is pretty much a 'catch-all' one. cfg_kludges.lua has a 
winprop that puts all 'is_dockapp' windows into the statusbar. This is probably
overwritten by the one above.

The solution would be to make sure the winprop above is the first winprop, so
any later winprops will overwrite it. In practice this probably means you want 
to put this winprop before 'dopath("cfg_defaults")' in your cfg_notion.lua.


Arnout

Re: [Notion-general] New windows in background by default?

[Thomas K. <tk...@gi...>]

On Sun, Jul 01, 2012 at 02:12:30PM +0200, Arnout Engelen wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 11:04:44AM +0200, Arnout Engelen wrote:
> > I haven't tried, but adding a winprop that sets 'switchto' to false (and
> > perhaps 'ignore_net_active_window' to true) might do the trick.
> 
> Jep that seems to do what you want:
> 
> defwinprop {
>    switchto = false,
> }
> 
> It does mark the windows as 'requesting attention', which seems reasonable.

Looks good! One problem though -- my Windowmaker Dockapps aren't in
the dock since I've restarted with this change. If I revert the
change, they are back at the bottom, where they belong.

Why is this related?
Can I exclude these windows?
 Thomas

Re: [Notion-general] New windows in background by default?

[Arnout E. <no...@bz...>]

On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 11:04:44AM +0200, Arnout Engelen wrote:
> I haven't tried, but adding a winprop that sets 'switchto' to false (and
> perhaps 'ignore_net_active_window' to true) might do the trick.

Jep that seems to do what you want:

defwinprop {
   switchto = false,
}

It does mark the windows as 'requesting attention', which seems reasonable.


Kind regards,

Arnout

> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:00:05PM +0200, Thomas Klausner wrote:
> > Hi!
> > 
> > A pet annoyance of mine is that windows pop up in the foreground and
> > steal the focus, eating some letters I'm typing. So for fun, I'd like
> > to change the default for new windows to be "pop up in background".
> > 
> > Can I do that with notion?
> > If yes, how?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> >  Thomas
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Re: [Notion-general] New windows in background by default?

[Arnout E. <no...@bz...>]

Hi,

I haven't tried, but adding a winprop that sets 'switchto' to false (and
perhaps 'ignore_net_active_window' to true) might do the trick.


Kind regards,

Arnout

On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:00:05PM +0200, Thomas Klausner wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> A pet annoyance of mine is that windows pop up in the foreground and
> steal the focus, eating some letters I'm typing. So for fun, I'd like
> to change the default for new windows to be "pop up in background".
> 
> Can I do that with notion?
> If yes, how?
> 
> Thanks,
>  Thomas
> 
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[Notion-general] Thanks for notion

[Jörg S. <jst...@gm...>]

Hi,

just want t to say  "Hello" and express my gratitude for notion. I've 
been a long time user of ion, but eventually when Tuomov abandomed ion,. 
  I switched back to the usual DEs, since there was no other  tiling wm 
suited for my needs., only to become more and  more frustrated with the 
common desktop paradigm.  I already gave notion a try, shortly after the 
fork, but it wouldn't build then and I didn't have the time t lokk into 
it. Now I tried it again and iit's  great. My old ion3 config is working 
right of the box, I only fixed all references to ion in my  files and 
now  I'm busy refreshinfg my memories about keybindings and lua commands.

Thanks to all who are keeping the best tiling wm alive and kicking.

Joerg

[Notion-general] New windows in background by default?

[Thomas K. <tk...@gi...>]

Hi!

A pet annoyance of mine is that windows pop up in the foreground and
steal the focus, eating some letters I'm typing. So for fun, I'd like
to change the default for new windows to be "pop up in background".

Can I do that with notion?
If yes, how?

Thanks,
 Thomas

Re: [Notion-general] gimp-2.8 weirdness

[Arnout E. <no...@bz...>]

Or http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/notion/index.php?title=Application-specific_tweaks#GIMP

I guess we should include this in the default config


Arnout

On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 12:11:03PM +0200, Wojtek Aniszewski wrote:
> (sorry, re-send for the group)
> 
> I confirm. Gimp 2.8.0, notion 3-2012042300.
> But, I walkaround by having a winprop for gimp setting all its
> windows/popups to float.
> 
> (such as
> defwinprop{
> class = "Gimp",
> float = true }
> )
> 
> With this, the problem is avoided even on 'default', tiling workspace.
> I think such a winprop could default Notion default, by the way...
> it's hard to imagine graphic designers who want gimp popups to jump
> around their tiled workspaces.
> regards
> 
> wojtek
> 
> On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Thomas Klausner <tk...@gi...> wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > Since upgrading to gimp-2.8, it started showing very weird behaviour
> > with notion.
> >
> > When exiting without saving first, a dialog pops up asking for
> > confirmation. And immediately closes. And opens again. And closes. And
> > so on.
> >
> > When I have xinerama enabled, I can work around this behaviour my
> > moving the mouse cursor to the second monitor, then the dialog pops up
> > there without any problems.
> >
> > Can someone please try and confirm this behaviour?
> >
> > Also, can someone please fix it? :)
> >
> > Thanks,
> >  Thomas
> >
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> 
> 
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> pentahedral graphs, there are two convex pentahedra, namely the square
> pyramid and the triangular prism. The triangular prism is the unique
> convex pentahedra having unit edge lengths.
> 
> (Eric W. Weisstein. "Pentahedron." From MathWorld--A Wolfram Web
> Resource. http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Pentahedron.html)
> 
> 
> -- 
> Pentahedron - A polyhedron having five faces. Because there are two
> pentahedral graphs, there are two convex pentahedra, namely the square
> pyramid and the triangular prism. The triangular prism is the unique
> convex pentahedra having unit edge lengths.
> 
> (Eric W. Weisstein. "Pentahedron." From MathWorld--A Wolfram Web
> Resource. http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Pentahedron.html)
> 
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[Notion-general] gimp-2.8 weirdness

[Wojtek A. <pen...@gm...>]

(sorry, re-send for the group)

I confirm. Gimp 2.8.0, notion 3-2012042300.
But, I walkaround by having a winprop for gimp setting all its
windows/popups to float.

(such as
defwinprop{
class = "Gimp",
float = true }
)

With this, the problem is avoided even on 'default', tiling workspace.
I think such a winprop could default Notion default, by the way...
it's hard to imagine graphic designers who want gimp popups to jump
around their tiled workspaces.
regards

wojtek

On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Thomas Klausner <tk...@gi...> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Since upgrading to gimp-2.8, it started showing very weird behaviour
> with notion.
>
> When exiting without saving first, a dialog pops up asking for
> confirmation. And immediately closes. And opens again. And closes. And
> so on.
>
> When I have xinerama enabled, I can work around this behaviour my
> moving the mouse cursor to the second monitor, then the dialog pops up
> there without any problems.
>
> Can someone please try and confirm this behaviour?
>
> Also, can someone please fix it? :)
>
> Thanks,
>  Thomas
>
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--
Pentahedron - A polyhedron having five faces. Because there are two
pentahedral graphs, there are two convex pentahedra, namely the square
pyramid and the triangular prism. The triangular prism is the unique
convex pentahedra having unit edge lengths.

(Eric W. Weisstein. "Pentahedron." From MathWorld--A Wolfram Web
Resource. http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Pentahedron.html)


-- 
Pentahedron - A polyhedron having five faces. Because there are two
pentahedral graphs, there are two convex pentahedra, namely the square
pyramid and the triangular prism. The triangular prism is the unique
convex pentahedra having unit edge lengths.

(Eric W. Weisstein. "Pentahedron." From MathWorld--A Wolfram Web
Resource. http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Pentahedron.html)

[Notion-general] gimp-2.8 weirdness

[Thomas K. <tk...@gi...>]

Hi!

Since upgrading to gimp-2.8, it started showing very weird behaviour
with notion.

When exiting without saving first, a dialog pops up asking for
confirmation. And immediately closes. And opens again. And closes. And
so on.

When I have xinerama enabled, I can work around this behaviour my
moving the mouse cursor to the second monitor, then the dialog pops up
there without any problems.

Can someone please try and confirm this behaviour?

Also, can someone please fix it? :)

Thanks,
 Thomas

[Notion-general] Notion LGPL branch

[Arnout E. <no...@bz...>]

Hello,

As you're all probably aware, Notion is currently licensed under the Ion 
license, which is an unfortunate state of affairs. 

When we forked Ion3, we had to decide whether to ignore the work done in the
2007-2010 timeframe and continue LGPL, or take the latest version and be stuck
with an inconvenient license. We chose the second approach, but expressed the
intention that when Notion turned out to be a viable project, we'd like to 
move back to clean LGPL eventually. Preparing for this, we've asked all 
contributions to be dual-licensed LGPL and Ion-license.

This is paying off. Last week and this weekend I've been performing some git
trickery and having manual merge fun. The result is an 'lgpl' branch in git,
which does not contain any code from the LGPL era, but does contain all Notion
contributions from the last 2 years. When we make improvements to either 
branch, these can be easily merged from the one to the other. 

For the nitty-gritty about the git trickery going on here, see my blogpost at
http://arnout.engelen.eu/gikilog/commit/fc50db7d80e25b7ca707147670510d8a3c55450e/
and of course the sf.net git repo's :).

Now that we have the Notion LGPL branch in place, it's time to have it catch 
up on what happened in the 2007-2010 non-LGPL era. 

I would like your help in:

* Test the LGPL branch. If you find any regressions, mention them in the 
  sf.net tracker I created for this purpose at
  https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=314802&atid=3208161
* Help double-check none of the Ion-licensed code slipped through into the 
  LGPL branch. I'm fairly confident my approach was solid, but the more 
  eyeballs we have here the better
* Perhaps going through the patches at 
  https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/notion/index.php?title=Licensing_FAQ#List_of_patches_since_license_change
  and help mark trivial/uninteresting/outdated or 'already covered by an issue
  in the lgpl regressions tracker'

I would *not* like your help in:

* taking information from the non-LGPL patch sets, and directly submitting this
  information to the bugtracker. 

The latter could be considered 'copying' non-LGPL information into the LGPL 
branch, which we don't want. Communication between the two worlds should 
always be in functional, abstract terms, nothing even remotely 'close to the 
code'.


Kind regards,

Arnout

[Notion-general] Default keybindings overview

[Wojtek A. <pen...@gm...>]

I think it's great and useful.
When I started using notion (that is in 2009 as ion3), I felt
overhelmed by the abundance of keybingings. So I started to use a
minimal set.
Thanks to your graphics, I find now that I still didn't know some of
them, like Mod1+K Q :)

As far as Alt+D is consered, why not - as long as it can be turned off
with a well-documented option in cfg_notion, whatever:)
regards
w

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Seraphyn Chris G. <ser...@te...> wrote:
>
> Hi Arnout,
>
>> I'd love your feedback:
>>
>>   http://arnout.engelen.eu/files/dev/notion/kbd/notionkeys.html
>>
>
> Nice Idea.
> I use other ones, but for beginner the right way to start.
>
> Greetings
> Chris
>
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--
Pentahedron - A polyhedron having five faces. Because there are two
pentahedral graphs, there are two convex pentahedra, namely the square
pyramid and the triangular prism. The triangular prism is the unique
convex pentahedra having unit edge lengths.

(Eric W. Weisstein. "Pentahedron." From MathWorld--A Wolfram Web
Resource. http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Pentahedron.html)


-- 
Pentahedron - A polyhedron having five faces. Because there are two
pentahedral graphs, there are two convex pentahedra, namely the square
pyramid and the triangular prism. The triangular prism is the unique
convex pentahedra having unit edge lengths.

(Eric W. Weisstein. "Pentahedron." From MathWorld--A Wolfram Web
Resource. http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Pentahedron.html)

Re: [Notion-general] Default keybindings overview

[Seraphyn C. G. <ser...@te...>]

Hi Arnout,

> I'd love your feedback:
> 
>   http://arnout.engelen.eu/files/dev/notion/kbd/notionkeys.html
>

Nice Idea.
I use other ones, but for beginner the right way to start.

Greetings
Chris

Re: [Notion-general] Default keybindings overview

[Arnout E. <no...@bz...>]

On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 06:33:23PM +0200, Arnout Engelen wrote:
> I'd love your feedback

One thing I already got as feedback is that some people like to be able to 
perform most of their 'management' tasks with the left hand. That makes sense 
(especially when you're choosing to use some apps that - eek - evoke mouse 
usage). 

>From this perspective, an obvious drawback is that our common 'Mod1+K' prefix 
cannot be performed with the left hand. 

A simple improvement might be to expose all 'Mod1+K' keybindings also under 
'Mod1+D'. That would be an ambidexter, backwards-compatible, nicely symmetric 
solution. I kind of like it. Wonder what you guys think.


Kind regards,

Arnout

[Notion-general] Default keybindings overview

[Arnout E. <no...@bz...>]

Hi,

I've always found the Notion keyboard commands documentation a bit hard to 
digest. Also, the multihead bindings use both Mod1+Shift as a prefix, which is
quite painful to use in my experience.

I've created a page which presents the keybindings organized in a way that 
seems a bit closer to the users' experience, and came up with some new 
multihead keybindings.

I'd love your feedback:

  http://arnout.engelen.eu/files/dev/notion/kbd/notionkeys.html


Kind regards,

Arnout

[Notion-general] Colemak caps_lock key (as backspace) not functioning in notion prompts

[Steven H. <sd...@gm...>]

The Colemak keyboard layout remaps the caps_lock to behave as a
backspace (delete) key. However, the caps_lock key does not appear to
function for notion prompts. It does behave as it should for running
applications.

Any ideas? I haven't found a kpress definition disabling the key..
unless it needs to be explicitly enabled (in which case, how is this
done?)

Thanks in advance,
S
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Re: [Notion-general] Notion 3-2012042300 released

[Thomas K. <tk...@gi...>]

Hi Arnout!

On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 09:53:00AM +0200, Arnout Engelen wrote:
> We're proud to present Notion versions 3-2012042300 has been released.

Thanks for the release!
I've updated the package for (NetBSD) pkgsrc two days ago :)
 Thomas

[Notion-general] Notion 3-2012042300 released

[Arnout E. <no...@bz...>]

Hello,

We're proud to present Notion versions 3-2012042300 has been released.

This version includes various fixes and improvements, including some long-
anticipated ones like Flash fullscreen, Firefox fullscreen, xprop in the 
presence of mod_xinerama and the RootWin no longer being and MPlex.

  - Updated EWMH support:
    - _NET_WM_ALLOWED_ACTIONS
    - _NET_VIRTUAL_ROOTS
    - _NET_SUPPORTING_WM_CHECK
  - Mark windows as 'activated' instead of raising them
  - Suppress gnome3's resize handles, as they don't work with Notion
  - Firefox fullscreen
  - Flash fullscreen
  - Various internal refactorings and cleanups

Due to popular demand we've also done some more work on Debian packaging, and
the Notion Debian package is now up-to-date and clean, waiting for feedback and
sponsorship into Debian:

  http://mentors.debian.net/package/notion
  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=647048
  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=670334

Many thanks go out to Philipp Hartwig for all his help and support in this 
release, al well as everyone else who has been contributing and providing 
valuable feedback.

Get this release at:

  http://sourceforge.net/projects/notion/files/


Kind regards,

Arnout

Re: [Notion-general] xinerama vs dock

[Thomas K. <tk...@gi...>]

Hi Philipp!

> But in fact we have changed a lot of the Xinerama logic today and now 
> everything should just work out of the box: 
> 
> - Wrapping should work by default without any Lua helpers. 
> - Fullscreen works because the patch has landed.
> - It is not important anymore whether mod_xinerama is loaded before or after 
>   mod_statusbar.
> - The internal logic was fixed in that we do no longer have an WMPlex that 
>   manages multiple screens, which contradicts the definition of an WMPlex.
> - As a result screens can now be resized.
> - And probably a lot more.
> 
> This should greatly improve the overall Xinerama experience, please give it a 
> try.

The features I tried work better now. Thank you!
 Thomas

[Notion-general] Flash fullscreen kludge

[Philipp H. <ph...@ph...>]

Hi,

as most of you know there used to be a problem with Flash fullscreen in Ion3 
and there is the famous kludge by Ben Hutchings, see [1] and the links there. 

My question is: Does this problem still exist for anyone with recent versions 
of Flash? And does the kludge help in this case? 

I have seen reports about problems with Flash fullscreen recently, but my 
strong guess is that those were caused by other circumstances. Most notably 
Flash fullscreen did not work whenever mod_xinerama was loaded, a problem that 
has been fixed in HEAD only very recently.

If nobody answers the questions above affirmatively I would suggest to drop 
the kludge and remove any mention thereof. It only confuses new users and in 
fact also us in that we blame fullscreen problems on this old issue when 
really they are caused by something completely different.

Regards,
Philipp

[1] http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/notion/index.php?title=Configuration#Flash.2FYouTube_Fullscreen

Re: [Notion-general] thunderbird attention to background?

[Thomas K. <tk...@gi...>]

Hi Juri!

On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 04:40:37PM +0200, Juri Hamburg wrote:
> Hi there,
> > When running thunderbird, it sometimes pops up a window to remind you
> > of stuff. That's fine, but I don't want it popping up in the
> > foreground, it should pop up in the background (perhaps with a red
> > title bar, like firefox's download window when it has finished a
> > download) so it doesn't steal focus from what I'm currently working
> > on.
> > 
> > Is there a way to do that?
> 
> If the window info of the stuff-remind-window does not change I would
> assign that window to be opened in scratchpad or any other frame (see META-m->window-info
> and cfg_kludges.lua).
> 
> I hope that helps.

Partially :)

window-info says

WGroupDW "WGroupCW<6>"
 ---
 WClientWin "1 Reminder"
 Class: Thunderbird
 Role: AlarmWindow
 Instance: Calendar
 XID: 0x1cc00cf0

so I expect it's recognizable from Class+Role (and perhaps Instance).

I'm not sure what to write into my config though, can you please suggest something?

Thank you,
 Thomas

Re: [Notion-general] thunderbird attention to background?

[Juri H. <ju...@fa...>]

On 04/22/12 at 11:57am, Thomas Klausner wrote:
> Hi!

Hi there,
> 
> When running thunderbird, it sometimes pops up a window to remind you
> of stuff. That's fine, but I don't want it popping up in the
> foreground, it should pop up in the background (perhaps with a red
> title bar, like firefox's download window when it has finished a
> download) so it doesn't steal focus from what I'm currently working
> on.
> 
> Is there a way to do that?

If the window info of the stuff-remind-window does not change I would
assign that window to be opened in scratchpad or any other frame (see META-m->window-info
and cfg_kludges.lua).

I hope that helps.

>  Thomas
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[Notion-general] thunderbird attention to background?

[Thomas K. <tk...@gi...>]

Hi!

When running thunderbird, it sometimes pops up a window to remind you
of stuff. That's fine, but I don't want it popping up in the
foreground, it should pop up in the background (perhaps with a red
title bar, like firefox's download window when it has finished a
download) so it doesn't steal focus from what I'm currently working
on.

Is there a way to do that?
 Thomas

Re: [Notion-general] xinerama vs dock

[Philipp H. <ph...@ph...>]

Hi Juri,

thanks for the suggestion, they've worked well.

But in fact we have changed a lot of the Xinerama logic today and now 
everything should just work out of the box: 

- Wrapping should work by default without any Lua helpers. 
- Fullscreen works because the patch has landed.
- It is not important anymore whether mod_xinerama is loaded before or after 
  mod_statusbar.
- The internal logic was fixed in that we do no longer have an WMPlex that 
  manages multiple screens, which contradicts the definition of an WMPlex.
- As a result screens can now be resized.
- And probably a lot more.

This should greatly improve the overall Xinerama experience, please give it a 
try.

Cheers,
Philipp