notion-general — General discussion about the notion window manager

Re: [Notion-general] firefox doesn't recognize different screen size on startup

[Arnout E. <no...@bz...>]

On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 12:03 AM, Thomas Klausner <tk...@gi...> wrote:

> Sometimes, firefox doesn't notice that it's now started on
> smaller/bigger display. When I split the screen, it recognizes it and
> adapts; so I usually split+join.
>
> Is there a more direct "nudge" I can send to firefox to adapt?
>

Perhaps Mod1+K L


> Or even better, a method so it doesn't misbehave?
>

Would indeed be better, not sure how to.


Arnout

Re: [Notion-general] firefox doesn't recognize different screen size on startup

[Thomas K. <tk...@gi...>]

On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 09:43:11AM +0200, ebik wrote:
> I had similar problem, but I'm not able to reproduce it with Firefox 38
> anymore. Which version of notion and Firefox do you use?

notion-3.2015061300 and firefox-40.0.2.
 Thomas

Re: [Notion-general] firefox doesn't recognize different screen size on startup

[ebik <eb...@uc...>]

Hello,

I had similar problem, but I'm not able to reproduce it with Firefox 38
anymore. Which version of notion and Firefox do you use?

On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 00:03:15 +0200
Thomas Klausner <tk...@gi...> wrote:

> Hi!
> 
> I regularly use firefox (from the same profile) in two notions, one
> 1920x1080 and the other just 1024x768 (in a VNC).
> 
> Sometimes, firefox doesn't notice that it's now started on
> smaller/bigger display. When I split the screen, it recognizes it and
> adapts; so I usually split+join.
> 
> Is there a more direct "nudge" I can send to firefox to adapt?
> Or even better, a method so it doesn't misbehave?
>  Thomas
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[Notion-general] changing number of screens

[Ed S. <ed...@gm...>]

Hi,

I normally run notion with my laptop in a dock that is connected to two
external monitors.  It works great!

I occasionally disconnect my laptop from the dock and use the built-in
laptop monitor.  Notion is smart enough to put all my workspaces onto the
single screen when I do this.  When I have two screens, though, I usually
use Mod1+1..0 to switch between workspaces.  When the screens are merged,
Mod1+1...0 is mapped to the workspaces from one of the screens.  The
workspaces from the other screen is still accessible, for instance via
Mod1+>, Mod1+<, or Mod1+K K, but it makes them much more difficult to
access.

Is it possible to merge the workspaces of each screen?  For instance, if I
had window A in workspace 1 on screen 1, and window B in workspace 1 on
screen 2, when I switch to one screen I'd like to have window A and B in
workspace 1.  Or are there any other strategies for dealing with this
problem?

Thanks,

Ed

Re: [Notion-general] using intellij ide

[moaxcp <mo...@gm...>]

I tried the floating frames but it did not work.

On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Matyas Selmeci <ma...@cs...> wrote:

>
> > On Aug 25, 2015, at 8:40 PM, moaxcp <mo...@gm...> wrote:
> >
> > Hello, I have noticed that I cannot open intellij at all with notion as
> a windows manager. I have heard that there are some issues with java apps
> using non parenting wms. Could this be the problem?
> >
> > I have also noticed that in Netbeans I can open the Java Platforms
> dialog but when I try to add a new platform the dialog doesn't open.
> >
> > I attempted to fix this with
> >
> > export _JAVA_AWT_WM_NONREPARENTING=1
> >
> > in my .xinitrc but it doesn't seem to work.
> >
> > Is there anything I can do to fix these? Could it be a problem with
> notion? Any help would be great.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > John Mercier
>
> Hi John,
>
> Can you try running your Java apps in a floating workspace (the “empty”
> template I believe)? I haven’t had anything fail to start, but I have had
> problems with disappearing UI elements (like the tab completion list) with
> tiled workspaces.
>
> -Mat
>
>

[Notion-general] firefox doesn't recognize different screen size on startup

[Thomas K. <tk...@gi...>]

Hi!

I regularly use firefox (from the same profile) in two notions, one
1920x1080 and the other just 1024x768 (in a VNC).

Sometimes, firefox doesn't notice that it's now started on
smaller/bigger display. When I split the screen, it recognizes it and
adapts; so I usually split+join.

Is there a more direct "nudge" I can send to firefox to adapt?
Or even better, a method so it doesn't misbehave?
 Thomas

Re: [Notion-general] using intellij ide

[Matyas S. <ma...@cs...>]

> On Aug 25, 2015, at 8:40 PM, moaxcp <mo...@gm...> wrote:
> 
> Hello, I have noticed that I cannot open intellij at all with notion as a windows manager. I have heard that there are some issues with java apps using non parenting wms. Could this be the problem?
> 
> I have also noticed that in Netbeans I can open the Java Platforms dialog but when I try to add a new platform the dialog doesn't open.
> 
> I attempted to fix this with
> 
> export _JAVA_AWT_WM_NONREPARENTING=1
> 
> in my .xinitrc but it doesn't seem to work.
> 
> Is there anything I can do to fix these? Could it be a problem with notion? Any help would be great.
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> John Mercier

Hi John,

Can you try running your Java apps in a floating workspace (the “empty” template I believe)? I haven’t had anything fail to start, but I have had problems with disappearing UI elements (like the tab completion list) with tiled workspaces.

-Mat

Re: [Notion-general] using intellij ide

[Arnout E. <no...@bz...>]

Hi,

Thanks for your question. I have been using IntelliJ heavily under Notion,
so it's certainly possible - I remember I had some dialogs that behaved
strangely, but all-in-all it was usable.

Which version of Notion are you on? Are you using the default kludges? How
does starting idea fail? Does it not start at all, have
misplaced/invisible/incorrectly sized windows, ...?


Kind regards,

Arnout

On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 3:40 AM, moaxcp <mo...@gm...> wrote:

> Hello, I have noticed that I cannot open intellij at all with notion as a
> windows manager. I have heard that there are some issues with java apps
> using non parenting wms. Could this be the problem?
>
> I have also noticed that in Netbeans I can open the Java Platforms dialog
> but when I try to add a new platform the dialog doesn't open.
>
> I attempted to fix this with
>
> export _JAVA_AWT_WM_NONREPARENTING=1
>
> in my .xinitrc but it doesn't seem to work.
>
> Is there anything I can do to fix these? Could it be a problem with
> notion? Any help would be great.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> John Mercier
>
>
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[Notion-general] using intellij ide

[moaxcp <mo...@gm...>]

Hello, I have noticed that I cannot open intellij at all with notion as a
windows manager. I have heard that there are some issues with java apps
using non parenting wms. Could this be the problem?

I have also noticed that in Netbeans I can open the Java Platforms dialog
but when I try to add a new platform the dialog doesn't open.

I attempted to fix this with

export _JAVA_AWT_WM_NONREPARENTING=1

in my .xinitrc but it doesn't seem to work.

Is there anything I can do to fix these? Could it be a problem with notion?
Any help would be great.

Best Regards,

John Mercier

[Notion-general] How to open app window where app was started?

[Alexey K. <ale...@gm...>]

I often start some application (using Notion command line) and then switch
to another workspace. Then window of this application appears in workspace
I switched to. Is there any way to force it to open where it was started?

-- 
With best regards
Alex Khmara

Re: [Notion-general] Display workspace number

[Arnout E. <no...@bz...>]

Hello Wojciech,

WRegion.is_active might come in handy. For example:

% echo "result = ''; notioncore.region_i(function (r) result = result ..
WRegion.name(r) .. ';' .. tostring(WRegion.is_active(r, true)) .. '|';
return true end, 'WGroupWS'); return result" |
mod_notionflux/notionflux/notionflux
"*scratchws*<4>;false|WGroupWS;true|WGroupWS<1>;false|WGroupWS<3>;false|"

.. when I was on the workspace named 'WGroupWS'. Does that help?


Arnout

On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 7:25 PM, Wojciech Aniszewski <ani...@co...>
wrote:

> > To for example get the list of workspace names, you could write a
> > notionflux script like this:
> >
> > echo "result = ''; notioncore.region_i(function (r) result = result ..
> > WRegion.name(r) .. '|'; return true end, 'WGroupWS'); return result" |
> > notionflux
> >
> > Which would return your workspace names (including the 'scratch'
> workspace)
> > separated by pipes. That might be a starting point to get what you're
> > looking for?
> >
> Well, yes it could, it works nicely. However, I don't know the proper lua
> to produce not
> only the list of currently existing workspaces, but the one being
> displayed right now.
> So, for the moment, when I call the script, notionflux returns:
>
> "*scratchws*|WGroupWS|WGroupWS<1>|WGroupWS<2>|WGroupWS<4>|duh|"
>
> meaning I have 5 workspaces + scratch. What I would like, is for
> notionflux to write something like:
>
> 25 "*scratchws*|WGroupWS-foo|WGroupWS<1>|WGroupWS<2>|WGroupWS<4>|duh|"
>
> while I'm displaying 'WGroupWS' but
>
> 25 "*scratchws*|WGroupWS|WGroupWS<1>|WGroupWS<2>|WGroupWS<4>|duh-foo|"
>
> while I diplaying (switching to) workspace 'duh'.
>
> Let's be more specific and add that "displaying" something means (I'm on
> singlehead display) that my focus is there, as in I'm typing to a terminal
> that's there:)
>
> To ilustrate even further, check out this guy's Awesome WM screenshot:
>
> http://img05.deviantart.net/1f6a/i/2011/242/2/a/tronminull_theme_in_awesome_wm_by_xenull-d48da2a.png
>
> In fact, my notion setup looks quite similar, except it's more greenish:)
> So in the top-left corner, you can see he has and indicator (four squares)
> of which workspace he's currently on. Voila c'est ca...
>
> regards
> -WA
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Re: [Notion-general] Display workspace number

[Wojciech A. <ani...@co...>]

> To for example get the list of workspace names, you could write a
> notionflux script like this:
> 
> echo "result = ''; notioncore.region_i(function (r) result = result ..
> WRegion.name(r) .. '|'; return true end, 'WGroupWS'); return result" |
> notionflux
> 
> Which would return your workspace names (including the 'scratch' workspace)
> separated by pipes. That might be a starting point to get what you're
> looking for?
> 
Well, yes it could, it works nicely. However, I don't know the proper lua to produce not
only the list of currently existing workspaces, but the one being displayed right now.
So, for the moment, when I call the script, notionflux returns:

"*scratchws*|WGroupWS|WGroupWS<1>|WGroupWS<2>|WGroupWS<4>|duh|"

meaning I have 5 workspaces + scratch. What I would like, is for notionflux to write something like:

25 "*scratchws*|WGroupWS-foo|WGroupWS<1>|WGroupWS<2>|WGroupWS<4>|duh|"

while I'm displaying 'WGroupWS' but

25 "*scratchws*|WGroupWS|WGroupWS<1>|WGroupWS<2>|WGroupWS<4>|duh-foo|"

while I diplaying (switching to) workspace 'duh'.

Let's be more specific and add that "displaying" something means (I'm on singlehead display) that my focus is there, as in I'm typing to a terminal that's there:)

To ilustrate even further, check out this guy's Awesome WM screenshot:
http://img05.deviantart.net/1f6a/i/2011/242/2/a/tronminull_theme_in_awesome_wm_by_xenull-d48da2a.png

In fact, my notion setup looks quite similar, except it's more greenish:) So in the top-left corner, you can see he has and indicator (four squares) of which workspace he's currently on. Voila c'est ca...

regards
-WA
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Re: [Notion-general] Display workspace number

[Arnout E. <no...@bz...>]

Hi Wojciech,

Thanks for your question. I'm not exactly sure what you'd like to see
though.

To for example get the list of workspace names, you could write a
notionflux script like this:

echo "result = ''; notioncore.region_i(function (r) result = result ..
WRegion.name(r) .. '|'; return true end, 'WGroupWS'); return result" |
notionflux

Which would return your workspace names (including the 'scratch' workspace)
separated by pipes. That might be a starting point to get what you're
looking for?


Kind regards,

Arnout

On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 6:10 PM, Wojciech Aniszewski <ani...@co...>
wrote:

> Hi there.
> Is there any way to display workspace number?
> I'm using a custom made dzen status bar, I'd like to see the number there.
> Can this be done?
>
> -WA
>
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[Notion-general] Display workspace number

[Wojciech A. <ani...@co...>]

Hi there.
Is there any way to display workspace number?
I'm using a custom made dzen status bar, I'd like to see the number there.
Can this be done?

-WA

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[Notion-general] Fwd: Next release

[Arnout E. <ar...@bz...>]

Hello Thomas,

The full list is at
https://github.com/raboof/notion/compare/3-2014052800...3-2015061300

Highlights include:
* Travis continuous integration
* Better lua autodetection (thanks to Nikolay Orlyuk)
* Various code consistency changes
* Fixing p2 variable scopes in xkbevents handler (thanks to Jon Canning)
* Fixing resizing of dock windows managed by mod_statusbar (thanks
to Edward J. Schwartz)


Kind regards,

Arnout

On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 7:35 PM, Thomas Klausner <wi...@ne...> wrote:

> On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 04:54:58PM +0200, Arnout Engelen wrote:
> > As promised, a new release is up at
> > https://github.com/raboof/notion/releases !
> >
> > Let me know if you run into anything!
>
> Thanks for that.
>
> Can you please give me a short summary what changed since the last
> release, or even better, just add it to the CHANGELOG file?
>
> Cheers,
>  Thomas
>

Re: [Notion-general] Next release

[Thomas K. <wi...@ne...>]

On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 04:54:58PM +0200, Arnout Engelen wrote:
> As promised, a new release is up at
> https://github.com/raboof/notion/releases !
> 
> Let me know if you run into anything!

Thanks for that.

Can you please give me a short summary what changed since the last
release, or even better, just add it to the CHANGELOG file?

Cheers,
 Thomas

Re: [Notion-general] Next release

[Jeff B. <jef...@gm...>]

I've updated the spec file for building RPMs for Fedora, so anyone 
wanting to roll there own is welcome to grab the spec here:
https://github.com/jsbackus/fedora_notion

It looks like we can still attach compiled binaries to releases.  Once I 
have built RPMs, shall I send 'em your way, Arnout?

Regards,
Jeff

On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 05:07:54PM +0200, Arnout Engelen wrote:
>Unless any problems with hosting the releases on github come up, I'd like
>to put them there and no longer release through sourceforge.
>
>
>Arnout
>
>On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 5:04 PM, moaxcp <mo...@gm...> wrote:
>
>> Will there be a new file released on SourceForge? Or is there a plan to
>> move everything to github? Right now gentoo is pulling the sources from
>> SourceForge.
>> On Jun 13, 2015 10:54 AM, "Arnout Engelen" <ar...@bz...> wrote:
>>
>>> As promised, a new release is up at
>>> https://github.com/raboof/notion/releases !
>>>
>>> Let me know if you run into anything!
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 7:01 PM, Arnout Engelen <ar...@bz...> wrote:
>>>
>>>> OK, then when we've resolved the lua interpreter autodetection issue
>>>> moaxcp identified I'll build a new release.
>>>>
>>>> To be quite honest, I find 'releases' an antiquated concept for
>>>> applications (in contrast to libraries). Each commit/merge to master should
>>>> essentially be a 'release'.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Thomas Klausner <wi...@ne...>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 06:17:58PM +0200, Arnout Engelen wrote:
>>>>> > I'm not currently planning a new release - but you're quite welcome to
>>>>> > build notion from source, which should be fairly painless. If not,
>>>>> let's
>>>>> > fix that :).
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd also appreciate a release -- think of all the poor packagers like
>>>>> myself.
>>>>>  Thomas
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>

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Re: [Notion-general] Next release

[Arnout E. <ar...@bz...>]

Unless any problems with hosting the releases on github come up, I'd like
to put them there and no longer release through sourceforge.


Arnout

On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 5:04 PM, moaxcp <mo...@gm...> wrote:

> Will there be a new file released on SourceForge? Or is there a plan to
> move everything to github? Right now gentoo is pulling the sources from
> SourceForge.
> On Jun 13, 2015 10:54 AM, "Arnout Engelen" <ar...@bz...> wrote:
>
>> As promised, a new release is up at
>> https://github.com/raboof/notion/releases !
>>
>> Let me know if you run into anything!
>>
>> On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 7:01 PM, Arnout Engelen <ar...@bz...> wrote:
>>
>>> OK, then when we've resolved the lua interpreter autodetection issue
>>> moaxcp identified I'll build a new release.
>>>
>>> To be quite honest, I find 'releases' an antiquated concept for
>>> applications (in contrast to libraries). Each commit/merge to master should
>>> essentially be a 'release'.
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Thomas Klausner <wi...@ne...>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 06:17:58PM +0200, Arnout Engelen wrote:
>>>> > I'm not currently planning a new release - but you're quite welcome to
>>>> > build notion from source, which should be fairly painless. If not,
>>>> let's
>>>> > fix that :).
>>>>
>>>> I'd also appreciate a release -- think of all the poor packagers like
>>>> myself.
>>>>  Thomas
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>

Re: [Notion-general] Next release

[moaxcp <mo...@gm...>]

Will there be a new file released on SourceForge? Or is there a plan to
move everything to github? Right now gentoo is pulling the sources from
SourceForge.
On Jun 13, 2015 10:54 AM, "Arnout Engelen" <ar...@bz...> wrote:

> As promised, a new release is up at
> https://github.com/raboof/notion/releases !
>
> Let me know if you run into anything!
>
> On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 7:01 PM, Arnout Engelen <ar...@bz...> wrote:
>
>> OK, then when we've resolved the lua interpreter autodetection issue
>> moaxcp identified I'll build a new release.
>>
>> To be quite honest, I find 'releases' an antiquated concept for
>> applications (in contrast to libraries). Each commit/merge to master should
>> essentially be a 'release'.
>>
>> On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Thomas Klausner <wi...@ne...> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 06:17:58PM +0200, Arnout Engelen wrote:
>>> > I'm not currently planning a new release - but you're quite welcome to
>>> > build notion from source, which should be fairly painless. If not,
>>> let's
>>> > fix that :).
>>>
>>> I'd also appreciate a release -- think of all the poor packagers like
>>> myself.
>>>  Thomas
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [Notion-general] Next release

[Arnout E. <ar...@bz...>]

As promised, a new release is up at
https://github.com/raboof/notion/releases !

Let me know if you run into anything!

On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 7:01 PM, Arnout Engelen <ar...@bz...> wrote:

> OK, then when we've resolved the lua interpreter autodetection issue
> moaxcp identified I'll build a new release.
>
> To be quite honest, I find 'releases' an antiquated concept for
> applications (in contrast to libraries). Each commit/merge to master should
> essentially be a 'release'.
>
> On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Thomas Klausner <wi...@ne...> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 06:17:58PM +0200, Arnout Engelen wrote:
>> > I'm not currently planning a new release - but you're quite welcome to
>> > build notion from source, which should be fairly painless. If not, let's
>> > fix that :).
>>
>> I'd also appreciate a release -- think of all the poor packagers like
>> myself.
>>  Thomas
>>
>
>

Re: [Notion-general] Moving the mailinglists away from Sourceforge

[Matthieu M. <Mat...@gr...>]

tot-to <not...@to...> writes:

> Hi Matthieu,
>
>> This is not true. Why are you saying that?
> Because when I click "Plaats bericht" (stand for "New Topic", probably
> in Dutch), it asks to log-in to Google and doesn't reveal any
> alternative.

You did not quote the part you were replying to:

>> And in order to post a message, instead of simply sending an e-mail,
>> one needs to log-in.

Why are you complaining that clicking some buttons ask you to log in
when you wanted to just send an email. This is nonsense. If you want to
send an email, just send it. And guess what, it works: it's a
mailing-list.

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Re: [Notion-general] Next release

[moaxcp <mo...@gm...>]

Looks good to me. It installed with no problems.
On Jun 7, 2015 5:34 PM, "Arnout Engelen" <ar...@bz...> wrote:

> On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 6:02 PM, moaxcp <mo...@gm...> wrote:
>
>> which: no lua5.1 in
>> (/usr/lib64/distcc/bin:/usr/lib/portage/python2.7/ebuild-helpers:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/opt/bin:/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.8.4:/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/i686-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.8.4)
>> build/lua-detect.mk:33: *** No lua5.1 interpreter found!.  Stop.
>>
>
> I pushed a possible fix, could you verify whether it helps?
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Arnout
>

Re: [Notion-general] Next release

[Arnout E. <ar...@bz...>]

On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 6:02 PM, moaxcp <mo...@gm...> wrote:

> which: no lua5.1 in
> (/usr/lib64/distcc/bin:/usr/lib/portage/python2.7/ebuild-helpers:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/opt/bin:/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.8.4:/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/i686-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.8.4)
> build/lua-detect.mk:33: *** No lua5.1 interpreter found!.  Stop.
>

I pushed a possible fix, could you verify whether it helps?


Kind regards,

Arnout

Re: [Notion-general] Moving the mailinglists away from Sourceforge

[Thomas K. <tk...@gi...>]

On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 05:26:51PM +0200, Arnout Engelen wrote:
> We'd need to move the mailinglists somewhere, Google Groups might be a good
> candidate.
> 
> Any other suggestions?

I just found librelist.com:

"Librelist is a free as in freedom mailing list site for open source
projects. It is a place for FOSS communities to discuss all the things
they want without ads, censorship, signup requirements, bundled apps,
or requirements that you use any particular email client or service."

 Thomas

Re: [Notion-general] Moving the mailinglists away from Sourceforge

[tot-to <not...@to...>]

Hi Matthieu,

> This is not true. Why are you saying that?
Because when I click "Plaats bericht" (stand for "New Topic", probably
in Dutch), it asks to log-in to Google and doesn't reveal any
alternative.

> You are making a confusion between a gmail account and a google
> account.
> 
> A google account can be linked to any email address, not just gmail.
> And as said in other messages, you do not need a google account to use
> google groups, although it's clearly more convenient when you have
> one.
You're right, I've never distingished these two things and I guess even
most of Google users (even among power users) don't pay attention to the
difference. I can find a way to register the account without Gmail if I
look for it in particular (btw, it still doesn't want to proceed
without an sms verification). But is there a situation when Google
would reveal this option to the user? If I click "Plaats bericht" in a
Google group and then "Een account maken" and in the registration form,
I can see an irremovable "@gmail.com" in "E-Mailadres" field, i.e. it
forces a user to register not only Google account, but Gmail as well.

> If we are to pick google groups Vs sf.net, we should consider the
> drawbacks on both sides.
Sure, but it's not a dilemma.

> Read this for example:
> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/05/sourceforge-grabs-gimp-for-windows-account-wraps-installer-in-bundle- pushing-adware/

I've heard that. Totally agree that this is absolutely unacceptable.
Google does many unethical things, too. I think much more, than SF.
Both are just the same kind of bullshit.

-----Original Message-----
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2015 11:05:00 +0200
From: Matthieu Moy <Mat...@gr...>
To: tot-to <not...@to...>
Cc: Ed Schwartz <edm...@cm...>,        notion-general
<not...@li...> Subject: Re: [Notion-general]
Moving the mailinglists away from Sourceforge


tot-to <not...@to...> writes:

> But the requirement of Google account create much more trobles. One
> needs not only to register, but also to set-up forwarding from Google
> e-mail to their actual address.

You are making a confusion between a gmail account and a google account.

A google account can be linked to any email address, not just gmail. And
as said in other messages, you do not need a google account to use
google groups, although it's clearly more convenient when you have one.

> And in order to post a message, instead of simply sending an e-mail,
> one needs to log-in.

This is not true. Why are you saying that?

> Apart of everything else, mailman is a free software, and google groups
> is proprietary.

If we are to pick google groups Vs sf.net, we should consider the
drawbacks on both sides.

Read this for example:

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/05/sourceforge-grabs-gimp-for-windows-account-wraps-installer-in-bundle-pushing-adware/

or for french-speaking people:

http://linuxfr.org/users/jehan/journaux/sourceforge-de-pire-en-pire-usurpation-d-identite-du-projet-gimp

I don't particularly support the migration to google groups, but moving
away from sourceforge would definitely be a good thing in my opinion.
Sourceforge did a good job supporting free software 10 years ago, but
they are now actively harmful.

-- 
Matthieu Moy
http://www-verimag.imag.fr/~moy/